I'm a 47 year old woman with a 49 year old female partner. I know TWO MMO players who "went through the change," but somehow I don't think that you meant what I thought.......
So....nevermind.
Hahaha thats funny reply i love it we need more laughter and fun on this forum!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I view it as a cycle. These kind of people get burned out eventually, quit for months, and be back chatting and hanging out with you. Then, eventually, the casual'izing starts ("hey, wanna come help me with this and that?"), then semi-hardcore ("sorry man, but i'm in a raid right now. Lets go later"), and then completely obsessed ("you suck").
Had an Asian friend like this on WoW with the exception that he didn't criticize my gear unless I asked for it. I didn't mind that he only started talking about stats and gear and blah blah either, because it was kind of interesting the way he talked about it, and he was one of the best DPS I grouped with *shrug*.
-------------------------- Playing: FFXIV, TERA, LoL, and HoTS My Rig: GPU: GeForce GTX 770, CPU: i7-4790K, Memory: 16 GB RAM
Had an Asian friend like this on WoW with the exception that he didn't criticize my gear unless I asked for it. I didn't mind that he only started talking about stats and gear and blah blah either, because it was kind of interesting the way he talked about it, and he was one of the best DPS I grouped with *shrug*.
I have an Asian friend who does this in -every- game. He makes spreadsheets just to keep track and compare different things, though that's mostly in EVE (where it's complex enough to need something like that).
It's something that seems to happen once people reach high levels, gear and the inner workings of a game become more important then, it's also when PvP starts to take over or is more apparent, and the PvP endgame is what ends up being more important to most people, so being propperly geared and good at it is all that matters anymore to them.
This change affects some more than others though, almost to the point of something like reverse puberty lol.
Had an Asian friend like this on WoW with the exception that he didn't criticize my gear unless I asked for it. I didn't mind that he only started talking about stats and gear and blah blah either, because it was kind of interesting the way he talked about it, and he was one of the best DPS I grouped with *shrug*.
I have an Asian friend who does this in -every- game. He makes spreadsheets just to keep track and compare different things, though that's mostly in EVE (where it's complex enough to need something like that).
My friend also made his own spreadsheets and all that for his character I thought it was neat (=
On the other hand, after I stopped playing WoW for a while, I had one good friend from WoW who I talked to on instant messenger, and they would constantly message me telling me about the game and what was going on in the game or with their character and we could hardly talk about anything else at all without him going back to that topic. That was slightly annoying especially since I was completely uninterested in the game at the time.
-------------------------- Playing: FFXIV, TERA, LoL, and HoTS My Rig: GPU: GeForce GTX 770, CPU: i7-4790K, Memory: 16 GB RAM
Yes, Amathe, indeed I have had it happen to me several times in several games. The worst incident was when someone I had known for several years decided to backstab me over a question of loot, and not very good loot at that.
This was someone who had a reversal of fortunes in the MMO: she had been at higher levels with better gear for a long time and had invited me into her guild. We got along well, but I had to take a break from the game while she continued to play it.
Something happened though (I can't remember what happened to her, I think she had a fit of anger or some such and ended up deleting her main toons or something like that), her old guild went bust, and she needed my help instead. I had come back by then, and helped a friend make a guild. I invited her into the guild I was helping to run, started her out with ingame money, helped her get some decent gear. The thanks I got was her acting like a lootwhore in every guild group I made to try to help out the other new guys. When I made a stand, she went behind my back, manipulated people into thinking the GM and I were bad people, then took a bunch of them and made her own guild.
I vowed from then on never to be involved in running guilds in any game. It was such an unfun experience for me.
I find that if I end up having major issues with a player, it's usually a 'princess' type or the 'e-peen stroker' type. I stay way away from those people.
One of my real life friends did just that in WOW. He was the suckiest player on earth and got himself quite a bad reputation outside our group when he played with players that didn't know him. We didn't care that he sucked and to be honest we didn't tell him because we didn't want him to leave the game because it was fun to have him around and chat about things like you mentioned in the opening post. The difference was that I knew this guy before we started to play WOW. But he was the kind of player that wanted to be the leader and with bad english, bad decisions and as a bad player he got himself a bad reputation. Yeah I know, silly in a game, but this was the case. And yes I know my english is not the best.
Either way, one day he stopped playing and I called him on the phone. Turned out he had joined Horde on the same server because in PVP pickup groups always got destroyed by Horde pickup groups on our server and he hated that. Another reason was the bad reputation he got for being such a bad player. He was always nice, but people kind of knew that he sucked. He started to play as an enemy and turned into a gear-freak.
Everytime we talked on the phone or I met him in real life he was talking about what gear he wanted and why. Even on a friends wedding he kept talking about this. It was insane! He told me to join him on another server as horde because he wanted a fresh start and so I did. But I had to leave just because of the reasons you mentioned in your opening post. It was impossible to talk about something else than gear. It was not my friend anymore. It was kind of scary I must say. A grownup man was totaly obsessed.
Bugger think we have all encountered this. I was pretty casual in my EQ1 days (still miss those LDON) and never encountered this. It wasn't until WoW (within weeks of it opening) when I was in the best lil guild on my RP server. As soon as we hit MC the RP went down the drain, the guild leader let in slime and the good and fun folks started dropping off. I don't blame some folks thoug. A lot of us go to the MMO world to escape the stresses of real life, just we don't realize we all bring a bit of baggage in and when subjective ideal fantasy paradise for social interaction meet bad stuffs is gonna happen at times. Wow sound like I either need a shrink or should become one. Speaking of shrinks.. miss double shrinking everyone and double growing the gnomes on me shammy...Canni dance.. I do not miss
Getting told to play your class by your mom has to be an all time classic.
A sign of the times, man...a sign of the times.
My kids always thought Mom was "cool" because I'm a gamer. Back when I was a teenager, I would have fainted dead away if my mom had picked up a controller and started playing Super Mario Bros with me. If I ever got to where I DIDN'T butt in on my son's games, at least for some gamermomma-version of backseat driving....he'd think I was ill.....
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Hahaha thats funny reply i love it we need more laughter and fun on this forum!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I view it as a cycle. These kind of people get burned out eventually, quit for months, and be back chatting and hanging out with you. Then, eventually, the casual'izing starts ("hey, wanna come help me with this and that?"), then semi-hardcore ("sorry man, but i'm in a raid right now. Lets go later"), and then completely obsessed ("you suck").
Getting told to play your class by your mom has to be an all time classic.
Had an Asian friend like this on WoW with the exception that he didn't criticize my gear unless I asked for it. I didn't mind that he only started talking about stats and gear and blah blah either, because it was kind of interesting the way he talked about it, and he was one of the best DPS I grouped with *shrug*.
--------------------------
Playing:
FFXIV, TERA, LoL, and HoTS
My Rig:
GPU: GeForce GTX 770, CPU: i7-4790K, Memory: 16 GB RAM
I have an Asian friend who does this in -every- game. He makes spreadsheets just to keep track and compare different things, though that's mostly in EVE (where it's complex enough to need something like that).
It's something that seems to happen once people reach high levels, gear and the inner workings of a game become more important then, it's also when PvP starts to take over or is more apparent, and the PvP endgame is what ends up being more important to most people, so being propperly geared and good at it is all that matters anymore to them.
This change affects some more than others though, almost to the point of something like reverse puberty lol.
My friend also made his own spreadsheets and all that for his character I thought it was neat (=
On the other hand, after I stopped playing WoW for a while, I had one good friend from WoW who I talked to on instant messenger, and they would constantly message me telling me about the game and what was going on in the game or with their character and we could hardly talk about anything else at all without him going back to that topic. That was slightly annoying especially since I was completely uninterested in the game at the time.
--------------------------
Playing:
FFXIV, TERA, LoL, and HoTS
My Rig:
GPU: GeForce GTX 770, CPU: i7-4790K, Memory: 16 GB RAM
Yes, Amathe, indeed I have had it happen to me several times in several games. The worst incident was when someone I had known for several years decided to backstab me over a question of loot, and not very good loot at that.
This was someone who had a reversal of fortunes in the MMO: she had been at higher levels with better gear for a long time and had invited me into her guild. We got along well, but I had to take a break from the game while she continued to play it.
Something happened though (I can't remember what happened to her, I think she had a fit of anger or some such and ended up deleting her main toons or something like that), her old guild went bust, and she needed my help instead. I had come back by then, and helped a friend make a guild. I invited her into the guild I was helping to run, started her out with ingame money, helped her get some decent gear. The thanks I got was her acting like a lootwhore in every guild group I made to try to help out the other new guys. When I made a stand, she went behind my back, manipulated people into thinking the GM and I were bad people, then took a bunch of them and made her own guild.
I vowed from then on never to be involved in running guilds in any game. It was such an unfun experience for me.
I find that if I end up having major issues with a player, it's usually a 'princess' type or the 'e-peen stroker' type. I stay way away from those people.
Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.
One of my real life friends did just that in WOW. He was the suckiest player on earth and got himself quite a bad reputation outside our group when he played with players that didn't know him. We didn't care that he sucked and to be honest we didn't tell him because we didn't want him to leave the game because it was fun to have him around and chat about things like you mentioned in the opening post. The difference was that I knew this guy before we started to play WOW. But he was the kind of player that wanted to be the leader and with bad english, bad decisions and as a bad player he got himself a bad reputation. Yeah I know, silly in a game, but this was the case. And yes I know my english is not the best.
Either way, one day he stopped playing and I called him on the phone. Turned out he had joined Horde on the same server because in PVP pickup groups always got destroyed by Horde pickup groups on our server and he hated that. Another reason was the bad reputation he got for being such a bad player. He was always nice, but people kind of knew that he sucked. He started to play as an enemy and turned into a gear-freak.
Everytime we talked on the phone or I met him in real life he was talking about what gear he wanted and why. Even on a friends wedding he kept talking about this. It was insane! He told me to join him on another server as horde because he wanted a fresh start and so I did. But I had to leave just because of the reasons you mentioned in your opening post. It was impossible to talk about something else than gear. It was not my friend anymore. It was kind of scary I must say. A grownup man was totaly obsessed.
Bugger think we have all encountered this. I was pretty casual in my EQ1 days (still miss those LDON) and never encountered this. It wasn't until WoW (within weeks of it opening) when I was in the best lil guild on my RP server. As soon as we hit MC the RP went down the drain, the guild leader let in slime and the good and fun folks started dropping off. I don't blame some folks thoug. A lot of us go to the MMO world to escape the stresses of real life, just we don't realize we all bring a bit of baggage in and when subjective ideal fantasy paradise for social interaction meet bad stuffs is gonna happen at times. Wow sound like I either need a shrink or should become one. Speaking of shrinks.. miss double shrinking everyone and double growing the gnomes on me shammy...Canni dance.. I do not miss
Yes, but only in WoW.
A sign of the times, man...a sign of the times.
My kids always thought Mom was "cool" because I'm a gamer. Back when I was a teenager, I would have fainted dead away if my mom had picked up a controller and started playing Super Mario Bros with me. If I ever got to where I DIDN'T butt in on my son's games, at least for some gamermomma-version of backseat driving....he'd think I was ill.....