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WoW community- Rudest of all MMos
waveslayer
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I have to say after open beta and a week of live...not all but for the most part, this game has got to have the worst crowd of players. If someone askes a question in general chat they are slamed, if someone makes a mistake in any subject they are racked over the coals...the curseing, the sexual and racial slures.
Even in groups, there is no NBG at all, people down others like crazy, if the group wipes then usually the worst player is the one curseing and blaming others for the deaths,.
Blizzard has really made a great game, but in a rating of 1 to 10 in which the community is part of the criteria for a score the game would get a very low mark in my opinion.
Before you flame away, I didnt say all folks playing where this way, just most of them.
Game itself 9.5 game with community included 4.5
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I'm going to have to disagree with you.
Perhaps on the B.net boards there are kiddies but in-game, I've never experienced a single immature person.
You're kidding right? I had two 40+ chars during CB and OB. The topic starter is correct.
I must also agree with the topic starter. B.net is full of rud kids, who in my opininion need to be banned. But that is besides the point.
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I do saw some immature people in WoW, but I do have a great guild so that doesn't bother me that much. From my experience, Lineage 2 have the worst community ever.
Has nothing to do with the way it looks. Just has to do with the fact that it's blizzard. Most of the younger crowd from WC3 and the other Blizz titles ran to WoW because, well, it's blizzard. Having a bad experience with some part of the community in WoW was a given when I bought the game. I knew damn well this wasn't going to be a game filled to the brim with polite and intellectual people. Get used to it, it's blizzard town after all.
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I've come across alot of immature people as well.
I'm hoping it's just because it's early on in the game, and people aren't really sure what they are doing.
Here's to hope.
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I would be wiling to bet/hope alot of them will drop out after the first month, when the parents dont want their kiddies using their CC. Im thinking about getting WoW for christmas, which is funny because I bash it so much, but i did have fun while I was playing. Hopefully all the crap will be sorted by then.
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I've been playing it pretty much non stop since I got it this past thursday and I have found that there are some rude people, none that I have had the pleasure of dealing with first hand but I have seen unnessissary replys. BUT... the amount of people I have seen or heard that act inappropriately was limited and generally localized (people playing as Dwarves really don't like Gnomes apparently). The amount when compared with other communities at release seems relatively close and to consider it the rudest community of all MMO's is an extreme exaggeration. It's not perfect because no community is, especially at release. Anyway, like I said I havn't really dealt with immature players first hand I have played 4 different character race/class combos seperately above lvl 10, 2 of which are 20+, and from ventureing through those four different cities and surrounding area I really didn't find it too blatant or over-abundant, but yes it was there.
p.s. I hope you have fun in game Orcc, especially considering your oppinion upon the game.
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Damn, it doesnt help that I just found out my friend bought WoW today... I guess I will pick it up
I've played the game since the day after release, and is the community immature? A small minority, yes. But the majority are pretty well behaved.
And for grouping, well, i've been in quite a few, and I've only come across one ass. People who say it's full of immature idiots is either most likely a fanboi of another game, or just had a bad experience.
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and even if there are a lot of rude/immature players..... how old are you again? are you really hurt from their comments? are you crying at night cause someone called you a noob in the game? are you ready to commit suicide because they said you ruined the group? maybe its just me but i've actually learned that you dont have to tkae their comments/replies seriously.
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I can't believe how many people on here talk so much like they are inexperienced with the MMO community. Is it just because you all either are defending it to the end and will deny it to the end. Or the opposite and hate WoW so much (EQ2 diehards) to blame it on being a blizzard product? Now I wouldn't be laughing WoW lovers you are just the same when it comes to SOE. However I think too many of you jump on the defense or jump on the offense just to defend the game or attack it. Totally overlooking what the truth really is and making yourself look like complete n00bz to the MMO community.
I think if you all really take a hard look at it, why it draws rude, negative and hateful players. Then you will see that ever since the beginning of all Multiplayer games that allow players to kill each other is where you will see the strongest of that sort of community. Now, there still are games that are co-op or PvE that also have their portion of rude and obnoxious players, but it doesn't even compare to the degree of slander in a PvP gaming environment. Asheron's Call was a perfect example to me. Playing on a non-PvP server, the majority of the time I spent more time making friends and creating wonderful memories of figuring out quests, hunting together or just adventuring out in the middle of nowhere witha nice size group on a discovery mission as so to speak. However on DT it was a completely different gameplay all together. Grouping was less active. Most only hunted in pairs unless they were on a raid. However the typical community on DT was just as I see the complaints here about WoW. It was the same on Shadowbane and it was the same on PvP servers for Diablo 1 & 2, Neverwinter Nights PvP servers and on every FPS game out as far back as Doom and to most current with Metal of Honor: Pacific Assault. Whenever you get into a community that has the desire for one player to KILL another player. I don't think you will find a more supportive environment for people to gather that HATE people. Why do you think they call non-PvP carebears? Do you see the carebears call them Murderers? I don't think so, everyone knows that most PVPers would take it as a complement anyways, right?
I rest my case. I think we all know the answer to that.
Anyway, EQ2 will eventually have it's day in the sun when they will open PvP so that Freeport and Qeynos will have reason to go to war with each other. Which I am sure some from WoW will leave to go to EQ2 when that happens. Not all, but some will, trust me. However, you will see on that day forward some leave EQ2 for that same reason. Also you will see a uprise in rudeness in the world of Norrath as well.
To me, that is my answer to why I don't care for PvP. There are too many immature people that are attracted to PvP games and the altitude and additude in them types of environments are unattractive and not fun. I prefer to play and adventure with others, not play against them as a default play reason. If I want that I will go play my FPS games or my board games in person. I would rather hear a "WOOHOO, WE DID IT" in a MMO rather than listening someone calling someone names because he/she doesn't understand something about the game. a PVP based MMO is a perfect example of a world of hate and VS is at it's worst. IF you think all the EQ2 vs WoW threads are bad. The WoW fans were only just practicing with you to prepare for their BS in the game. Think about it, They now have a place to vent out all their hate and don't have to worry about having to take any responcibility for how they talk. So, if anyone whines about the additude in a PvP based game, then all I can say is, well you asked for it. You play at game where people are at war with each other, I would expect rants, rudeness and hate, not co-operation, teamwork and friendships. Maybe this generation in MMO's will now start seeing how really unpopular PvP actually is. Shees, I can only tolerate the RANTS, name calling, racial slurs and sexist bias crap for so long. That is one main reason why I only tolerate it in FPS games since you can get aenough out of a FPS within 30 minutes. But to tolerate it in a MMORPG and to spend the amount of time you need to, to make progress. That is just too much hate and unbearable. I bet most of these PvP playes in the MMO communities have wives, mothers and family that are VERY happy to have their spouse, son or daughter submerged in it letting out their rage instead of them having to pay for a psychologist so they don't have to see it. MMO's are cheaper.
Just wondering, and more a respond to the previous poster. Coupling rudeness to pvp, btw nice rant on pvp
I to have played AC2 on DS for the most of the time. There are always immature players that will trash talk, but had more trash talk in pve then in the pvp where there was more respect. Even on DT it wasn't bad at all, there you just don't have the positive feedback because there are a lot less people reacting and only the 'jerks' that react and the other 'jerks' jump as well. Just to say it is because pvp is completely wrong.
An other example: Eve. Eve is also fully pvp, you can attack everyone everywhere (yes even in high security space, just live with Concord ganking). Never saw any trash talking there, wich doesn't mean it doesn't exist there. I'm sure there is trash talk as well. Got more trashtalk in SWG, also pvp if you are overt rebel/imperial. But most trash talking just happened between covert people that didn't fear the consequences of there trash talking.
These are just a few points to point out that immature isn't coupled at pvp. You just meet always people that think because they are after a pc screen they are untouchable and change in total 'jerks' and behave immature. And because WoW has a large and quick growing base of players, more of them will flow in as in other games with a smaller base of players. One solution: ignore/squels/block or what ever the function is called. As soon as they don't have anyone to talk to they get bored and move on.
On a side note had more bad experience with american communities, so immature is coupled at americans? Don't think that is the case, so don't presume that pvp is coupled at immature. Oh and I like pvp a lot but I love roleplay a lot more instead of mindless killing. That is why FPS isn't my genre of game.
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in the OB i didnt meet one imature person i guese all the 5 year olds couldnt afford the game
but since its gold who knows maybe they just wernt old enough to sign the NDA
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i generaly have to agree with several of the posts here bad behaviors ugliness,
folks trying to find there way, or not guilded yet with good folks
i got to see almost side by side releases and behaviors in eq 2 weren't all that great in some areas as well from running to harvest areas to being yelled at in groups if they die and why did u invitee if i am going to have to share your death experaince?
i also hope by end of first month some of the issues will be resolved
the other option in wow is to turn off general chat, find some folks that are fun to hang out with and if in eq 2 do the same,
if you have tried several servers that could be an answer too. Also different folks are on different times of day so the atmosphere is different
but yes spatial can ruin other wise decent game experaince and so can really bad groups
so in the end if it is your choice to leave due to the folks you have seen lately, maybe try the game in a few months and see if different ones are around........
I have met rude people in every MMO I have ever played. If I had known they were all going to be playing WoW, I would not have accepted my beta invitation.
Almost every group I was in had someone who was leet, rude, or just plain wanted to gank the best gear and then leave us, even if it was in the middle of a dungeon.
If it wasn't the poor OOC behavior, it was poor general gaming etiquette. It completely and totally turned me off to the game.
I have met a few people like this in EQ2, the game I am playing now because of WoW's community, but not nearly to the point that I encountered them in WoW. I thought it was just people posting before I got into the beta, but I found out pretty quick that wasn't true. It really is too bad, in my opinion, because I really was enjoying some of the other aspects of the game in the beginning. The community turned me off before I was really able to experience it much past 35, and it doesn't take long to get to 35 in WoW.
I thought it was the character so I made a couple more, and went to the mid 20s before I realized no matter what skills or gear I had, people were still going to be jerks and ninjas in game pretty much all the time. I really wanted to like that game, too. Luckily I have not experienced it much at all in EQ2, and their /random looting system is totally ruined, but people are so damn nice 90% of the time!! I'm as happy with the EQ2 community as I was frustrated with the WoW community. Very disappointing. Put up an age-restricted 25+ server in WoW, and I might consider paying for it.
Habit is not to be flung out the window by any man, but coaxed down the stairs one step at a time. - Mark Twain
I played eq1 for a few years several chars to 65 and I can only think of 2 times out of all that time I ever had problems once a guy logged into a unique I was camping killed and looted it after I had been there camping it for 2 hours called the gm who removed the item from the guys inventory and gave him a 3 day suspension for it.Other time similar a guy ran up tried to force take over a camp gm was contacted guy was told to read the play nice policy that was it.
So while there may be immature/jerks in eq1 and eq2 sony atleast draws a line in the sand and forces ppl to atleast be mostly nice even if they didn't you will just find more of a adult crowd in eq1/2 than you will in a ac1,daoc,or WoW.