I'm waiting for Undead labs zombie mmo and Warhammer 40K mmo. I hope we get to hear more about these 2 soon.
When this article came out I checked up on Undead labs because I never heard of them or the game before. The entire staff is made of up of a bunch of unknowns, at least to me. Not to say that they could pull a rabbit out of the hat on the first try, but the odds are against it. Now Secret World has Zombies and is being made by someone with significant experience in this genre. You might want to anticipate that game, it actually has a decent chance of being good.
I just did not understand how the original author could pick the rabbit out of the hat trick over WOD or even Secret World. When the author used the word "We" instead of "I" he put a target on his back and invited criticism of his choices. If you are going to pick something like he did way out in left field, he had better define his reasoning which I found entirely lacking.
Note Bilzzard is also working on a MMO project that I would bet all of us would be highly interested in.
Now Secret World has Zombies and is being made by someone with significant experience in this genre. You might want to anticipate that game, it actually has a decent chance of being good.
I kinda understand where you're coming from, but after doing research on the Secret World wiki: sure, it's got zombies. WoW also has zombies, as does almost any other MMO. What people like me are looking for is a zombie apocalypse MMO, which Secret World is not. My understanding is that Undead Labs is actually working on a survival horror game. So, I see where you're coming from, but there's a big difference to a game having zombies, and a game being about an apocalypse, prompted by the return of the dead to life.
Here's a quote from their website:
"Why zombies? Because zombies offer the perfect blend of humor and horror, and living out our post-societal-collapse survivalist fantasies sounds like a blast. We’ve all watched zombie movies and thought, “What would I do?” Play a good MMOZ and find out!"
"This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)
It is clear that about half of you to about 2/3 of you aren't reading the entire article, but instead are skimming over the list and then posting about how terrible the author's choices are.
The list was meant to be games that aren't necessarily huge A-list titles that everyone knows about, but lesser known games by lesser known companies. As such, not many of these titles are likely to be on everyone's top 5 most anticipated list. That was the whole point of the article. For those of you who posted such remarks, your comments are more of a reflection on your limited attention span and reading comprehension than on the author's game choices.
Currently playing: Rift Played: SWToR, Aion,EQ, Dark Age of Camelot World of Warcraft, AoC
It is clear that about half of you to about 2/3 of you aren't reading the entire article, but instead are skimming over the list and then posting about how terrible the author's choices are.
The list was meant to be games that aren't necessarily huge A-list titles that everyone knows about, but lesser known games by lesser known companies. As such, not many of these titles are likely to be on everyone's top 5 most anticipated list. That was the whole point of the article. For those of you who posted such remarks, your comments are more of a reflection on your limited attention span and reading comprehension than on the author's game choices.
Agree except there is nothing small about Warhammer 40 k or the backing it has, I would also mention the collaberation of salvatore,Mcfarlane and company pretty huge. Your point is taken though . I forgot to mention in earlier post that I am also looking forward to warhammer 40 k development and Copernicus has potential with the makers.
If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
It is clear that about half of you to about 2/3 of you aren't reading the entire article, but instead are skimming over the list and then posting about how terrible the author's choices are.
The list was meant to be games that aren't necessarily huge A-list titles that everyone knows about, but lesser known games by lesser known companies. As such, not many of these titles are likely to be on everyone's top 5 most anticipated list. That was the whole point of the article. For those of you who posted such remarks, your comments are more of a reflection on your limited attention span and reading comprehension than on the author's game choices.
What the real problem is, is the title of the article. "Five Games We Want to Know More About."
The real title should have been, "5 Little Known Games Because These Games are not Interesting Enough to be Talked about Mainstream."
And sarcasm aside, TSW is much more anticipated and there is still little known about it. 40k is a huge market, especially after the release of WAR, so that doesnt fit the "little guy" theory. And Copernicus is not a small unknown game either, many people are talking about it, with Salvatore and McFarlane on it.
It is clear that about half of you to about 2/3 of you aren't reading the entire article, but instead are skimming over the list and then posting about how terrible the author's choices are.
The list was meant to be games that aren't necessarily huge A-list titles that everyone knows about, but lesser known games by lesser known companies. As such, not many of these titles are likely to be on everyone's top 5 most anticipated list. That was the whole point of the article. For those of you who posted such remarks, your comments are more of a reflection on your limited attention span and reading comprehension than on the author's game choices.
What the real problem is, is the title of the article. "Five Games We Want to Know More About."
The real title should have been, "5 Little Known Games Because These Games are not Interesting Enough to be Talked about Mainstream."
And sarcasm aside, TSW is much more anticipated and there is still little known about it. 40k is a huge market, especially after the release of WAR, so that doesnt fit the "little guy" theory. And Copernicus is not a small unknown game either, many people are talking about it, with Salvatore and McFarlane on it.
The real problems is, people get bent out of shape over the most ridiculous little detail. "Five games we want to know more about"... As if this is an issue at all. It most certainly doesn't warrant the backlash that it's receiving.
It's a title, the author was taking a guess at games some people may want to know more about, TSW, we know plenty about this game, SW:TOR again plenty of info floating around, Etc.....
The games listed here regardless of IP have been relatively under the radar for the most part.
I know the regular users of this site are often jaded and prone to fits of rage, but come off it now, sometimes those fits of rage are completely uncalled for.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
mmorpg makers are greedy sons of bitches nowadays. Other than try to experiment and make something actually interesting, they clone and clone each other, adding a colorful ribbon each time just to get us pay for their piece of crap.
Same with non-mmo games, it all went down to money grinding schemes. Just look at those call of duty, medal of honour and battlefield... oh god, screw you all!
The writer is entitled to his opinion and its good we saw some upcoming MMO’s we had not heard of. For those of you who just want to know more about one upcoming MMO don’t put all your MMO easter eggs in one basket. The history of MMO’s since 2008 shows no new MMO is released in a complete state. A quick phone call to the relevant MMO company could have put some meat on the bones here though.
mmorpg makers are greedy sons of bitches nowadays. Other than try to experiment and make something actually interesting, they clone and clone each other, adding a colorful ribbon each time just to get us pay for their piece of crap.
Same with non-mmo games, it all went down to money grinding schemes. Just look at those call of duty, medal of honour and battlefield... oh god, screw you all!
Do you know why? Because MMO's take millions upon millions (of other peoples money) to create. Thus the suits and investor types are quite risk adverse, and tend to stick with what has worked in the past. Thats why game evolution tends to be slow. Real revolution can be and is a career ender, if most of the variables don't align just right. Most people are simply not willing to take the risks involved. There are various formulas within games that have a demonstrated audience, look at most of the games on the list, and also most of those mentioned in the comments.
Do you know why? Because MMO's take millions upon millions (of other peoples money) to create. Thus the suits and investor types are quite risk adverse, and tend to stick with what has worked in the past. Thats why game evolution tends to be slow. Real revolution can be and is a career ender, if most of the variables don't align just right. Most people are simply not willing to take the risks involved. There are various formulas within games that have a demonstrated audience, look at most of the games on the list, and also most of those mentioned in the comments.
I agree 100%. There is very little innovation because the risk is too great. If you try to make a new game your choices are to stick with what has worked in the past or try to come up with something new which has very little chance of success, since players are already speaking with their wallets about which types of games they like.
Let's just say I am a developer and I say to my financial partners that I am developing an entirely new type of MMO. It will take almost nothing from existing MMOs but be completely new and revolutionary. They will probably be excited and cheer loudly. Now when I tell them that unfortunately, because of the very fact that we are making something completely new, the development costs are going to be astronomical, suddenly the cheering will stop. Next I tell them that in addition to that, because it's so new and isn't using a winning formula that there is a very good chance that instead of getting rich they will lose all of their money and have to move out of their villa and into their mom's basement, then they will start to trickle out the door. I will be lucky if I don't get hit in the eye by a flying donut as the angry investors flood the hallways out of the building.
Every forum that talks about MMOs is full of complaints about everything being a WoW clone and there being no innovation. Well, we, as the overall gaming community are giving huge amounts of money to games like WoW and ignoring many other titles, so what conclusion should developers come to when making a new game? As much as I want something new and different just like everyone else, if I were making a new game I would come to the same conclusion.
Currently playing: Rift Played: SWToR, Aion,EQ, Dark Age of Camelot World of Warcraft, AoC
I, too, agree with the Carbine Studios MMO - they've been cooking something for over 5 years and it has Tim Cain as Design/Programming Director. mmm, rubs hands in anticipation!
I want to know more about Zenimax Online's project. I still suspect that they were assuming they could wrangle the rights away from Interplay for Fallout Online... but that didn't pan out... thus no news from them.
Sadly, I'm not really interested in any of these titles.
(5). Copernicus
All respect to Curt Shilling and 38 Studios, but being that he is a fan of WOW (or based upon what I've read), this doesn't excite me much.
(4). Jumpgate Evolution
Not very creative, much more of an attempt of an Eve Clone. There are some difference, but not enough difference to warrant significant attention.
(3). Undead Labs' Zombie MMO
Meh, never been a fan of the Zombie craze.
(2). Red5 Studios' Untitled MMO
With their recent purchace by a Chinese company, I fear the development of this MMO will fall more to the typical Asian grindfest with micro-transactions.
(1). Warhammer 40K: Dark Millenium
Although the fiction of this IP is vast and highly interesting, upon things I've both read and heard, this title is being developed with far less investment capital, therefore corners are going to have to be cut. So, in the end a lack-luster MMO will be the result.
Although these are just my opinions, and for those of you who are looking forward to these titles I wish you all joy and happy times.
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When this article came out I checked up on Undead labs because I never heard of them or the game before. The entire staff is made of up of a bunch of unknowns, at least to me. Not to say that they could pull a rabbit out of the hat on the first try, but the odds are against it. Now Secret World has Zombies and is being made by someone with significant experience in this genre. You might want to anticipate that game, it actually has a decent chance of being good.
I just did not understand how the original author could pick the rabbit out of the hat trick over WOD or even Secret World. When the author used the word "We" instead of "I" he put a target on his back and invited criticism of his choices. If you are going to pick something like he did way out in left field, he had better define his reasoning which I found entirely lacking.
Note Bilzzard is also working on a MMO project that I would bet all of us would be highly interested in.
I kinda understand where you're coming from, but after doing research on the Secret World wiki: sure, it's got zombies. WoW also has zombies, as does almost any other MMO. What people like me are looking for is a zombie apocalypse MMO, which Secret World is not. My understanding is that Undead Labs is actually working on a survival horror game. So, I see where you're coming from, but there's a big difference to a game having zombies, and a game being about an apocalypse, prompted by the return of the dead to life.
Here's a quote from their website:
"Why zombies? Because zombies offer the perfect blend of humor and horror, and living out our post-societal-collapse survivalist fantasies sounds like a blast. We’ve all watched zombie movies and thought, “What would I do?” Play a good MMOZ and find out!"
"This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)
5 games i currently have no interest in..
It is clear that about half of you to about 2/3 of you aren't reading the entire article, but instead are skimming over the list and then posting about how terrible the author's choices are.
The list was meant to be games that aren't necessarily huge A-list titles that everyone knows about, but lesser known games by lesser known companies. As such, not many of these titles are likely to be on everyone's top 5 most anticipated list. That was the whole point of the article. For those of you who posted such remarks, your comments are more of a reflection on your limited attention span and reading comprehension than on the author's game choices.
Currently playing:
Rift
Played:
SWToR, Aion,EQ, Dark Age of Camelot
World of Warcraft, AoC
Agree except there is nothing small about Warhammer 40 k or the backing it has, I would also mention the collaberation of salvatore,Mcfarlane and company pretty huge. Your point is taken though . I forgot to mention in earlier post that I am also looking forward to warhammer 40 k development and Copernicus has potential with the makers.
Farstryder,
Wind Commander???
its WinG Commander.
fallout MMO?
If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
What the real problem is, is the title of the article. "Five Games We Want to Know More About."
The real title should have been, "5 Little Known Games Because These Games are not Interesting Enough to be Talked about Mainstream."
And sarcasm aside, TSW is much more anticipated and there is still little known about it. 40k is a huge market, especially after the release of WAR, so that doesnt fit the "little guy" theory. And Copernicus is not a small unknown game either, many people are talking about it, with Salvatore and McFarlane on it.
The red 5 Studios mmo seems to be interesting.
I'll keep an eye on it.
The real problems is, people get bent out of shape over the most ridiculous little detail. "Five games we want to know more about"... As if this is an issue at all. It most certainly doesn't warrant the backlash that it's receiving.
It's a title, the author was taking a guess at games some people may want to know more about, TSW, we know plenty about this game, SW:TOR again plenty of info floating around, Etc.....
The games listed here regardless of IP have been relatively under the radar for the most part.
I know the regular users of this site are often jaded and prone to fits of rage, but come off it now, sometimes those fits of rage are completely uncalled for.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
5. whatever
4. whatever
3. whatever
2. whatever
1. whatever
mmorpg makers are greedy sons of bitches nowadays. Other than try to experiment and make something actually interesting, they clone and clone each other, adding a colorful ribbon each time just to get us pay for their piece of crap.
Same with non-mmo games, it all went down to money grinding schemes. Just look at those call of duty, medal of honour and battlefield... oh god, screw you all!
IZI MODO?! Ha-ha-ha!
The only one listed I would like to know more about is Warhammer 40K. I used to enjoy the table game.
My personal list would be:
5. DCUO - ACTION COMBAT PEW PEW....that's about all I know so far...
4. SWTOR - Simply cuz there's some info, but I want a lot more
3. FALLOUT MMO
2. THE SECRET WORLD MMO
1. WORLD of DARKNESS - Really anticipating this one. Can't wait to see what CCP do with it.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
This needs more of Blizzard's secret new MMO, The secret World and World of Darkness
The writer is entitled to his opinion and its good we saw some upcoming MMO’s we had not heard of. For those of you who just want to know more about one upcoming MMO don’t put all your MMO easter eggs in one basket. The history of MMO’s since 2008 shows no new MMO is released in a complete state. A quick phone call to the relevant MMO company could have put some meat on the bones here though.
Do you know why? Because MMO's take millions upon millions (of other peoples money) to create. Thus the suits and investor types are quite risk adverse, and tend to stick with what has worked in the past. Thats why game evolution tends to be slow. Real revolution can be and is a career ender, if most of the variables don't align just right. Most people are simply not willing to take the risks involved. There are various formulas within games that have a demonstrated audience, look at most of the games on the list, and also most of those mentioned in the comments.
I agree 100%. There is very little innovation because the risk is too great. If you try to make a new game your choices are to stick with what has worked in the past or try to come up with something new which has very little chance of success, since players are already speaking with their wallets about which types of games they like.
Let's just say I am a developer and I say to my financial partners that I am developing an entirely new type of MMO. It will take almost nothing from existing MMOs but be completely new and revolutionary. They will probably be excited and cheer loudly. Now when I tell them that unfortunately, because of the very fact that we are making something completely new, the development costs are going to be astronomical, suddenly the cheering will stop. Next I tell them that in addition to that, because it's so new and isn't using a winning formula that there is a very good chance that instead of getting rich they will lose all of their money and have to move out of their villa and into their mom's basement, then they will start to trickle out the door. I will be lucky if I don't get hit in the eye by a flying donut as the angry investors flood the hallways out of the building.
Every forum that talks about MMOs is full of complaints about everything being a WoW clone and there being no innovation. Well, we, as the overall gaming community are giving huge amounts of money to games like WoW and ignoring many other titles, so what conclusion should developers come to when making a new game? As much as I want something new and different just like everyone else, if I were making a new game I would come to the same conclusion.
Currently playing:
Rift
Played:
SWToR, Aion,EQ, Dark Age of Camelot
World of Warcraft, AoC
I, too, agree with the Carbine Studios MMO - they've been cooking something for over 5 years and it has Tim Cain as Design/Programming Director. mmm, rubs hands in anticipation!
~Ripper
Im glad to see a ton of peeps are interested in WoD
I want to know more about Zenimax Online's project. I still suspect that they were assuming they could wrangle the rights away from Interplay for Fallout Online... but that didn't pan out... thus no news from them.
Sadly, I'm not really interested in any of these titles.
(5). Copernicus
All respect to Curt Shilling and 38 Studios, but being that he is a fan of WOW (or based upon what I've read), this doesn't excite me much.
(4). Jumpgate Evolution
Not very creative, much more of an attempt of an Eve Clone. There are some difference, but not enough difference to warrant significant attention.
(3). Undead Labs' Zombie MMO
Meh, never been a fan of the Zombie craze.
(2). Red5 Studios' Untitled MMO
With their recent purchace by a Chinese company, I fear the development of this MMO will fall more to the typical Asian grindfest with micro-transactions.
(1). Warhammer 40K: Dark Millenium
Although the fiction of this IP is vast and highly interesting, upon things I've both read and heard, this title is being developed with far less investment capital, therefore corners are going to have to be cut. So, in the end a lack-luster MMO will be the result.
Although these are just my opinions, and for those of you who are looking forward to these titles I wish you all joy and happy times.
Weren't you Mad Murphy? The old man gamer?
"Yea, I've been drinking again.."
Change the title: 5 Games no true-gamer cares about.
Haha. I like that title. Almost works too except for 40k, which if done right could be just the massive sci-fi mmo we need.