I have put away a thousand dollars to spend on a new computers/upgrades and wondering what is the best bang for my buck.
Most importantly I need a laptop for university, it doesnt have to be good just web browsing and word processing but i also need a computer to play lord of hte rings online, and in the future hopefully final fantasy 14 and swtor. I already have a desktop tho it needs some repairs
its a INtel Core 2 duo processor E6850
windows vista (32 bit)
3gb ddr2 ram
nvidia 8800gt - plus i was using it without a anti virus/spyware and it has become over run with virus's and spyware
so my question is whats my best option to discard the old desktop spend all the money on a new laptop or get a 400 laptop or even a 250 dollar mini, and spend the rest on upgrading my desktop, keeping in mind that ill have have to get the virus's wiped probally as i dont no alot about computers, also installing a new hardware may be a problem everyone says its easy but i dont belive them
Thanks in advance
Laptops are crap for games with a good 3D engine.
Buy yourself a cheap netbook for the university stuff and save money for a real gaming computer.
Thats my two cents anyway.
Laptops are crap? Mine blows most desktops out of the water. But you won't come far with a 1000 dollars.
I have put away a thousand dollars to spend on a new computers/upgrades and wondering what is the best bang for my buck.
Most importantly I need a laptop for university, it doesnt have to be good just web browsing and word processing but i also need a computer to play lord of hte rings online, and in the future hopefully final fantasy 14 and swtor. I already have a desktop tho it needs some repairs
its a INtel Core 2 duo processor E6850
windows vista (32 bit)
3gb ddr2 ram
nvidia 8800gt - plus i was using it without a anti virus/spyware and it has become over run with virus's and spyware
so my question is whats my best option to discard the old desktop spend all the money on a new laptop or get a 400 laptop or even a 250 dollar mini, and spend the rest on upgrading my desktop, keeping in mind that ill have have to get the virus's wiped probally as i dont no alot about computers, also installing a new hardware may be a problem everyone says its easy but i dont belive them
Thanks in advance
Laptops are crap for games with a good 3D engine.
Buy yourself a cheap netbook for the university stuff and save money for a real gaming computer.
Thats my two cents anyway.
Laptops are crap? Mine blows most desktops out of the water. But you won't come far with a 1000 dollars.
Saying that laptops are "crap" might be an overstatement, but as your own linked page points out, that GPU is a little more than a significantly downclocked Radeon HD 5770, labelled as a "mobile" 5870. Compared to the Desktop 5770, the Mobility Radeon HD 5870 has a core clock of 700mhz instead of 850mhz and a memory clock of 1ghz (4ghz effective) instead of 1.2ghz (4.8ghz effective). It sits somewhere between the desktop 5750 and 5770 in performance.
Is that "crap"? As I said, that's an overstatement, but it's not as good as you can do with a desktop, even for $1000 (I'd be shooting for at least a Radeon HD 5850 with that budget). For the $1300-$1500 for an Asus G73jh, I'd probably shoot for two Radeon HD 5850s (or maybe, in that one case, take the Nvidia route and get two 1GB GTX 460s, as it's their one good card).
When you can get a desktop with three times the GPU performance of that laptop for the same price, it's kind of easy to see where Mellow44 is coming from. It's a really nice machine, for a laptop, but it doesn't "blow most desktops out of the water", at least not any kind of gaming desktop, build today (as almost anyone will shoot for something with more power than a downclocked 5770).
Let's no turn this into a desktop vs laptop thingy.
I own both a laptop and a desktop. Yes 'gaming' desktops are way faster and cheaper when compared to the more expensive gaming laptops. Yes, ghz, pipelines and all the technical thingies are better, faster and look cool in and ad.
I'm only saying that not all laptops are crap at games and mine runs the latest games in hi-ress wit 70+ fps.
Let's no turn this into a desktop vs laptop thingy.
I own both a laptop and a desktop. Yes 'gaming' desktops are way faster and cheaper when compared to the more expensive gaming laptops. Yes, ghz, pipelines and all the technical thingies are better, faster and look cool in and ad.
I'm only saying that not all laptops are crap at games and mine runs the latest games in hi-ress wit 70+ fps.
That's good enough to me.
My advice is still that he buys a cheap notebook for the university stuff and saves money for a really good desktop gaming computer.
All those memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
Is it worth getting dual video cards when building a new rig, or is just one sufficient to run most new games on highest settings? Im tossing around the idea of putting in two cards but dont want to waste the money if it wont make a noticeable difference.
Is it worth getting dual video cards when building a new rig, or is just one sufficient to run most new games on highest settings? Im tossing around the idea of putting in two cards but dont want to waste the money if it wont make a noticeable difference.
Depending on who makes your GPUs, a dual-GPU setup is 70-90 percent faster than a single card setup with the same GPU (SLI almost always scales to 90% or better, Crossfire usually does ~70%-90+%).
Even in the worst case scenario for most games, getting only a 70% or so boost in performance over a single card still represents a huge boost. Keep in mind that Crossfire and SLI only work at high resolutions, though. If you're running at 1280x1024 or 1440x900, then don't bother. If you're running at 1920x1080 or above, then it's absolutely worth it.
Is it worth getting dual video cards when building a new rig, or is just one sufficient to run most new games on highest settings? Im tossing around the idea of putting in two cards but dont want to waste the money if it wont make a noticeable difference.
Depending on who makes your GPUs, a dual-GPU setup is 70-90 percent faster than a single card setup with the same GPU (SLI almost always scales to 90% or better, Crossfire usually does ~70%-90+%).
Even in the worst case scenario for most games, getting only a 70% or so boost in performance over a single card still represents a huge boost. Keep in mind that Crossfire and SLI only work at high resolutions, though. If you're running at 1280x1024 or 1440x900, then don't bother. If you're running at 1920x1080 or above, then it's absolutely worth it.
Cool, good advice. Thank you for that. I think I will go the the dual card route then, because im tired of running games on med low settings lol. I want the max expierence for once heh heh.
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Yeah it's good but how much did you pay for it?
And WiFi is crap for online gaming, if you didn't know then you will soon find out.
All those memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
As said, you won't buy it for 1000 dollars. My reply was to straighten the comment laptops are crap for gaming.
Since the invention of WiFi i use it for online gaming. Nothing wrong with it unless, maybe, you use a 20 dollar router.
I have no fluctuations and have a constant 50mn connection.
It's not the hardware, it's the money availible to spend on it that makes it crap or not ;-)
But, let's not hijack this thread.
kr
Saying that laptops are "crap" might be an overstatement, but as your own linked page points out, that GPU is a little more than a significantly downclocked Radeon HD 5770, labelled as a "mobile" 5870. Compared to the Desktop 5770, the Mobility Radeon HD 5870 has a core clock of 700mhz instead of 850mhz and a memory clock of 1ghz (4ghz effective) instead of 1.2ghz (4.8ghz effective). It sits somewhere between the desktop 5750 and 5770 in performance.
Is that "crap"? As I said, that's an overstatement, but it's not as good as you can do with a desktop, even for $1000 (I'd be shooting for at least a Radeon HD 5850 with that budget). For the $1300-$1500 for an Asus G73jh, I'd probably shoot for two Radeon HD 5850s (or maybe, in that one case, take the Nvidia route and get two 1GB GTX 460s, as it's their one good card).
When you can get a desktop with three times the GPU performance of that laptop for the same price, it's kind of easy to see where Mellow44 is coming from. It's a really nice machine, for a laptop, but it doesn't "blow most desktops out of the water", at least not any kind of gaming desktop, build today (as almost anyone will shoot for something with more power than a downclocked 5770).
Let's no turn this into a desktop vs laptop thingy.
I own both a laptop and a desktop. Yes 'gaming' desktops are way faster and cheaper when compared to the more expensive gaming laptops. Yes, ghz, pipelines and all the technical thingies are better, faster and look cool in and ad.
I'm only saying that not all laptops are crap at games and mine runs the latest games in hi-ress wit 70+ fps.
That's good enough to me.
My advice is still that he buys a cheap notebook for the university stuff and saves money for a really good desktop gaming computer.
All those memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
Is it worth getting dual video cards when building a new rig, or is just one sufficient to run most new games on highest settings? Im tossing around the idea of putting in two cards but dont want to waste the money if it wont make a noticeable difference.
Depending on who makes your GPUs, a dual-GPU setup is 70-90 percent faster than a single card setup with the same GPU (SLI almost always scales to 90% or better, Crossfire usually does ~70%-90+%).
Even in the worst case scenario for most games, getting only a 70% or so boost in performance over a single card still represents a huge boost. Keep in mind that Crossfire and SLI only work at high resolutions, though. If you're running at 1280x1024 or 1440x900, then don't bother. If you're running at 1920x1080 or above, then it's absolutely worth it.
Cool, good advice. Thank you for that. I think I will go the the dual card route then, because im tired of running games on med low settings lol. I want the max expierence for once heh heh.