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Age of Empires 2 >>>> Starcraft 2

awiaawia Member Posts: 96

Now you are probably going to try and prove me wrong but you're gonna fail.

who's with me, they are going to relaunch starcraft I but they are not gonna relaunch age of empires 2? cmon man the world is not fair

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  • KareshKaresh Member UncommonPosts: 242

    imo...

    Age of empires = win

    starcraft = fail 

  • lornphoenixlornphoenix Member Posts: 993

    That's matter of opinion.

    Me, I thought AoE2 was a great game... but I like SC/Brood Wars and now SC2 more... a lot more.

    I do hope they add a SC1 and Brood War modes to SC2... I miss that old Arbiters/Reavers Recall trick.

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  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610

    Matter of preference.  If you go by technology and all the really cool effects and cool gadgets, SC2 wins by a mile.  If you like mideval stuff, then I guess AoE is for you.  I wouldn't say anyone is relaunching SC1, they are just packaging it with the special edition.  If you want to go play AoE2, go play it.  No one is stopping you.  I'm sure there are at least a few still playing multiplayer.

  • qotsaqotsa Member UncommonPosts: 835

    I'm with you!I'm not a Blizzard hater, but I've always disliked SC. To me it looked like a crappy mess. I almost bought this new one. But I opened the front cover and saw screenshots and the game looks just as much of a crappy mess as the original. I ended up putting it back down.

     

    I loved the Age of Empires series.

  • AutemOxAutemOx Member Posts: 1,704

    I don't understand how it could be a 'crappy mess'.  When people who are good at SC play it they know what is where and are managing their units in a speedy symphony that is rather beautiful.  I think most people who don't like SC are intimidated by the speed of it, because the balance, uniqueness, and strategy are undeniably amazing once you understand it.  It reminds me a lot of speed chess.

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  • IzkimarIzkimar Member UncommonPosts: 568

    Age of Empires was so winn man!!!  You say if you like medieval then AoE is for you as if its just genre that separates these games.  Ummm, how about it actually takes wits and great strategy in this game hence RTS, while in SC and SC2 it's more about APM ewww.......  My father still plays AOEIII everyday haha, also this generates a question from me.  People say that the SC formula worked and that's why SC2 was for the most part a rehash, but my arguement would be that the AoE formula worked, yet AoE 2 wasn't a rehash and it still owned, umm AoE 3 wasn't a rehash.  Hell, AoE 3 helped push the boundaries of RTS with innovative ways for strategy like bringing in the deck and such.  AoE 3 is a great game, but I miss AoE 2 and would play a rehash of it.  Also, it's easier said then done about going and playing multiplayer with AoE 2, the time that game thrived with multiplayer was with the Zone, r.i.p. lol I miss those days man.

  • IzkimarIzkimar Member UncommonPosts: 568

    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I don't understand how it could be a 'crappy mess'.  When people who are good at SC play it they know what is where and are managing their units in a speedy symphony that is rather beautiful.  I think most people who don't like SC are intimidated by the speed of it, because the balance, uniqueness, and strategy are undeniably amazing once you understand it.  It reminds me a lot of speed chess.

     Really?  You're gonna say AoE players don't like SC because they can't hang with the speed or the speedy symphonic strategy?  Hmmm... SC is like I said more about APM.  I am in no way scared of speed, I play guitar, and I could play guitar on my keyboard if I felt like it, butttt I'd rather play something that requires more thinking.

  • IzkimarIzkimar Member UncommonPosts: 568

    Sorry, I reread your post and you were just targeting people in general that don't like it, my bad.  However, I still second that notion.

  • thexratedthexrated Member UncommonPosts: 1,368

    Both were great games, but I was also more into AOE2 and it's expansion AOC. At the time I played those semi-professionally whereas SC was just a hobby.

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  • awiaawia Member Posts: 96

    Originally posted by WardTheGreat

    Age of Empires was so winn man!!!  You say if you like medieval then AoE is for you as if its just genre that separates these games.  Ummm, how about it actually takes wits and great strategy in this game hence RTS, while in SC and SC2 it's more about APM ewww.......  My father still plays AOEIII everyday haha, also this generates a question from me.  People say that the SC formula worked and that's why SC2 was for the most part a rehash, but my arguement would be that the AoE formula worked, yet AoE 2 wasn't a rehash and it still owned, umm AoE 3 wasn't a rehash.  Hell, AoE 3 helped push the boundaries of RTS with innovative ways for strategy like bringing in the deck and such.  AoE 3 is a great game, but I miss AoE 2 and would play a rehash of it.  Also, it's easier said then done about going and playing multiplayer with AoE 2, the time that game thrived with multiplayer was with the Zone, r.i.p. lol I miss those days man.

    oh yes man the zone, ah man, such a close nit community of like 200-300 people playing this game

     

    love the map black forest

    RIP the zone, i swear if the zone was still up i would be addicted still like i was 7 yrs ago

  • awiaawia Member Posts: 96

    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I don't understand how it could be a 'crappy mess'.  When people who are good at SC play it they know what is where and are managing their units in a speedy symphony that is rather beautiful.  I think most people who don't like SC are intimidated by the speed of it, because the balance, uniqueness, and strategy are undeniably amazing once you understand it.  It reminds me a lot of speed chess.

    AOE 2 has far more strategy than SC or SC2

     

    you see this is the thing about aoe2, you actually felt like you were making a kingdom. And when you see you kingdom fall, you feel it. Like seriously during multiplayer deathmatch, i made sure my kingdom looked tight. and made sure i had reinforcements all over the walls

  • expressoexpresso Member UncommonPosts: 2,218

    Originally posted by awia

    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I don't understand how it could be a 'crappy mess'.  When people who are good at SC play it they know what is where and are managing their units in a speedy symphony that is rather beautiful.  I think most people who don't like SC are intimidated by the speed of it, because the balance, uniqueness, and strategy are undeniably amazing once you understand it.  It reminds me a lot of speed chess.

    AOE 2 has far more strategy than SC or SC2

     

    you see this is the thing about aoe2, you actually felt like you were making a kingdom. And when you see you kingdom fall, you feel it. Like seriously during multiplayer deathmatch, i made sure my kingdom looked tight. and made sure i had reinforcements all over the walls

     I dont think it's right to assume that AOE is more strategic than SC2 simply because you do not like SC2.  SC2 is all about quick PvP, the average 1v1 lasts 20 mins, SC2 plays much faster then AOE2 and you need to make decisions much faster, AOE is slower placed and more about building a pretty base.

    They are two very different strategy games but both require strategy in their own way.

  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610

    Originally posted by expresso

    Originally posted by awia


    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I don't understand how it could be a 'crappy mess'.  When people who are good at SC play it they know what is where and are managing their units in a speedy symphony that is rather beautiful.  I think most people who don't like SC are intimidated by the speed of it, because the balance, uniqueness, and strategy are undeniably amazing once you understand it.  It reminds me a lot of speed chess.

    AOE 2 has far more strategy than SC or SC2

     

    you see this is the thing about aoe2, you actually felt like you were making a kingdom. And when you see you kingdom fall, you feel it. Like seriously during multiplayer deathmatch, i made sure my kingdom looked tight. and made sure i had reinforcements all over the walls

     I dont think it's right to assume that AOE is more strategic than SC2 simply because you do not like SC2.  SC2 is all about quick PvP, the average 1v1 lasts 20 mins, SC2 plays much faster then AOE2 and you need to make decisions much faster, AOE is slower placed and more about building a pretty base.

    They are two very different strategy games but both require strategy in their own way.

    Agreed, you cant really compare the two games. I prefer the starcraft formula because to me its feels more action packed.

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  • awiaawia Member Posts: 96

    Originally posted by expresso

    Originally posted by awia


    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I don't understand how it could be a 'crappy mess'.  When people who are good at SC play it they know what is where and are managing their units in a speedy symphony that is rather beautiful.  I think most people who don't like SC are intimidated by the speed of it, because the balance, uniqueness, and strategy are undeniably amazing once you understand it.  It reminds me a lot of speed chess.

    AOE 2 has far more strategy than SC or SC2

     

    you see this is the thing about aoe2, you actually felt like you were making a kingdom. And when you see you kingdom fall, you feel it. Like seriously during multiplayer deathmatch, i made sure my kingdom looked tight. and made sure i had reinforcements all over the walls

     I dont think it's right to assume that AOE is more strategic than SC2 simply because you do not like SC2.  SC2 is all about quick PvP, the average 1v1 lasts 20 mins, SC2 plays much faster then AOE2 and you need to make decisions much faster, AOE is slower placed and more about building a pretty base.

    They are two very different strategy games but both require strategy in their own way.

    I didnt say i dislike SC2, i think its an ok game. I bet most of the people who has really played Age of Empires 2 will conclude that it is more strategic than starcraft or starcraft 2.

  • KingKong007KingKong007 Member Posts: 149

    SC2 = Science Fiction.

    AoE2 = Medieval.

    While I liked the medieval setting of AoE2, objectively there is more gaming value in SC2.

    SC2 has the better story telling and campaign setting. At times I felt more playing in a small rpg world than the ST MMO. (sadly this is not even a joke).

    SC2 has more multiplayer options through the BattleNet services.

    SC2 has more pure PvP adrenaline and superior matchmaking.

    SC2 will have a much longer life span (due to numurous factors: BattleNet - more campaigns to come - matchmaking - intergame chats - ...). It will be hot for the next 8 to 10 years.

    I do like the historical setting of AoE2, but on pure game mechanics you have to be honest. AoE2 is not even comparable these days.

  • awiaawia Member Posts: 96

    Originally posted by KingKong007

    SC2 = Science Fiction.

    AoE2 = Medieval.

    While I liked the medieval setting of AoE2, objectively there is more gaming value in SC2.

    SC2 has the better story telling and campaign setting. At times I felt more playing in a small rpg world than the ST MMO. (sadly this is not even a joke).

    SC2 has more multiplayer options through the BattleNet services.

    SC2 has more pure PvP adrenaline and superior matchmaking.

    SC2 will have a much longer life span (due to numurous factors: BattleNet - more campaigns to come - matchmaking - intergame chats - ...). It will be hot for the next 8 to 10 years.

    I do like the historical setting of AoE2, but on pure game mechanics you have to be honest. AoE2 is not even comparable these days.

    what game mechanics? spamming carriers for an insta win game?

     

    aoe2 can be faster and more thrilling than SC2, just like in SC you can tweak how much resources you start out with, and depending on what you spend those resources on, the game can be over within 15 minutes, you can skip most of the economic gameplay in age of empires 2

  • meesha035meesha035 Member UncommonPosts: 22

    To hell with both of them. Give me Empire Earth.

  • n3verendRn3verendR Member UncommonPosts: 452

    Originally posted by awia

    Originally posted by KingKong007

    SC2 = Science Fiction.

    AoE2 = Medieval.

    While I liked the medieval setting of AoE2, objectively there is more gaming value in SC2.

    SC2 has the better story telling and campaign setting. At times I felt more playing in a small rpg world than the ST MMO. (sadly this is not even a joke).

    SC2 has more multiplayer options through the BattleNet services.

    SC2 has more pure PvP adrenaline and superior matchmaking.

    SC2 will have a much longer life span (due to numurous factors: BattleNet - more campaigns to come - matchmaking - intergame chats - ...). It will be hot for the next 8 to 10 years.

    I do like the historical setting of AoE2, but on pure game mechanics you have to be honest. AoE2 is not even comparable these days.

    what game mechanics? spamming carriers for an insta win game?

    Spamming carriers? Who the hell outside of the bronze league or 2v2+ does that?

    Even then, Mass Hydralisks eat carriers - Mass Marines eat carriers - Mass Stalker eat carriers.

     

    AoE2 is a great game, I am not even going to get into that discussion.

    But why the hell are you even bringing up your opinion in a public forum on what YOU think is better? Some people are going to agree, some people are going to disagree and every once in a while you'll get a guy that is enraged about your opinion making your troll a successful one.

    Here, I'll end it here - If you want casual and fun RTS gameplay, play AoE2. If you want extremely competitive and fun gameplay, play SC2.

    Opinion, opinion, opinion.

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  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    Dawn of War I > All

     

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  • meesha035meesha035 Member UncommonPosts: 22

    Waaagh

  • HrothmundHrothmund Member Posts: 1,061

    Originally posted by Reizlanzer

    Originally posted by awia


    Originally posted by KingKong007

    SC2 = Science Fiction.

    AoE2 = Medieval.

    While I liked the medieval setting of AoE2, objectively there is more gaming value in SC2.

    SC2 has the better story telling and campaign setting. At times I felt more playing in a small rpg world than the ST MMO. (sadly this is not even a joke).

    SC2 has more multiplayer options through the BattleNet services.

    SC2 has more pure PvP adrenaline and superior matchmaking.

    SC2 will have a much longer life span (due to numurous factors: BattleNet - more campaigns to come - matchmaking - intergame chats - ...). It will be hot for the next 8 to 10 years.

    I do like the historical setting of AoE2, but on pure game mechanics you have to be honest. AoE2 is not even comparable these days.

    what game mechanics? spamming carriers for an insta win game?

    Spamming carriers? Who the hell outside of the bronze league or 2v2+ does that?

    Even then, Mass Hydralisks eat carriers - Mass Marines eat carriers - Mass Stalker eat carriers.

     

    AoE2 is a great game, I am not even going to get into that discussion.

    But why the hell are you even bringing up your opinion in a public forum on what YOU think is better? Some people are going to agree, some people are going to disagree and every once in a while you'll get a guy that is enraged about your opinion making your troll a successful one.

    Here, I'll end it here - If you want casual and fun RTS gameplay, play AoE2. If you want extremely competitive and fun gameplay, play SC2.

    Opinion, opinion, opinion.

    Exactly, SC2 is a different beast and a great game, and definitely more refined than any of the AoE games in terms of balance and polish.

  • sn0wblind00sn0wblind00 Member UncommonPosts: 388

    I agree that AOE 2 offers more planning and strategy.  Won't go into a rant why...but I do agree OP. 

    However...aoe 3 is quite bad.

  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640

    I enjoy many different types of rts games.

    From Home world to Civ to SC to DoW to AoE 

    One game isnt a failure for being better or worse than another.

    All are good games in their own way, enjoy them for what they are and stop trying to tag a game "failed" because ones better or worse in your opinion.

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  • expressoexpresso Member UncommonPosts: 2,218

    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Dawn of War I > All

     

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     Home world > All

     

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  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640

    Originally posted by expresso

    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Dawn of War I > All

     

    /END

     Home world > All

     

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    Opinions are like assholes...

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