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The true rating for EQ2!
metalfoxus
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I think thats a pretty accurate review.
i love how on the reader reviews most people gave it either a 10/10 or 8/10 and the third highest was a 1/10. I wonder if those people even played the game.
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But does 92 suit WoW?
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look at the ammount of articles ... 76 for wow and 54 for eq2 so yep its does
Personally I prefer checking gamerankings.com for reviews compared to just a single site. I think the average score is a much better estimate of a game then just a single person's opinion plus you can check player's reviews on the side. And with all the links to the reviews on one page you can easily access a bunch of sites to see why they gave a game a certain score. I think 92% for WOW and 85% for EQII sound pretty fair to me. (and Half-Life 2 gets a 96% there, #5 on the their highest ratings on all platforms
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Currently:
Beta: Guild Wars
Playing: EQII & WOW
(yeah, both... deal with it)
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Playing: WOW & GW
Bear in mind that those rankings are done without any high end guilds establish in either game yet. When those guilds are established they will influence greatly how the grouping system evolve in their respective game in the ''last level range''. They will also define what the game is after the point of reaching the highest level with their personalities and rules. I would suggest you remove a full 2 points from those games as those guilds wont improve the game in any form, making a lack of high end better then what they will offer.
Personnally I think EQ2 is much nicer then EQ which is slightly nicer then WoW.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
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Well common sense is not so so common on this site but at least common sense shows in jackdog.
Buy the games and try them out for yourself simple as that.
That's what I always prefer doing. Whether it's through a Beta, demo, or renting (for consoles), if I try a game and like it, forgot the low scores. However not all PC games give the opportunity to let me try it out before I buy. What then? Just close your eyes, hope you like it and shovel out $50? If I'm not so sure of a game (doesn't count for games I know I'm going to enjoy, like sequels or games from a company that I've always enjoyed) it helps to get a second opinion. Obviously it doesn't help all that much just to get one person's opinion but usually 50+ people are not completely off. Plus there are few places that I have always tended to agree with, such as PC Gamer magazine. So yes, whether you enjoy a game or not should be up to you, not a reviewer, but if you cannot decide whether or not to buy a game a site like gamerankings.com can be a big help.
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Currently:
Beta: Guild Wars
Playing: EQII & WOW
(yeah, both... deal with it)
Currently:
Playing: WOW & GW
A vendetta would mean I am actually hunting them down or planning doing it.
I aint going to do either, but I will certainly complain anytime I see that guilds get to enforce ''how to reach the high end'' in any game. I dont like them, I dont trust them, I dont want to be anywhere close to them.
My personnal experience is not THAT bad, however, slaves always revolts, and when a game want to make me a slave to a guild, I dont play that game long and I complain openly. (I am a powerplayer, so to give the best groups and solo items to guilds only enslaves me to them which is not cool because I aint a guild lover, which lead to open scorn). Someone can argue that I need to stop been a powerplayer, but that would be like arguing that I need to stop loving icecream, you wont change an old monkey. I play a game to reach the TOP of what I am doing...if I solo, I need to at least been able to dream about been the best soloer(I might fail and lack, but at least dreaming) and using the best road to it(not a lame twice longer road, if all those on top before me are raiders I will scorn, if they are soloers, I will try harder), a raiding game remove this and thereby is not a game I will play for any serious lenght of time.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Achiever 60%
Killer 53%
Explorer 46%
Socializer 40%
No way you can truly judge an online game like that in a few weeks. Look at City of Heros, I mean everyone who played was raving about it like it was the best thing since slice bread. Computer mag writers would slave away playing that game day and night and nothing else. It was alot of fun in the beginning, probably some of the best times I had in a long while playing online games.
However, the game really started to get boring because of lack of depth to it. All it was just combat and that's it. The zones looked the same, and my biggest complaint was it was too damn easy which is why alot of people could really enjoy it because it was really dumbed down.
Have to give it a few months and then see how the games are, without the lag or overcrowding and the hype from the fanbois dies down.
Well common sense is not so so common on this site but at least common sense shows in jackdog.
Buy the games and try them out for yourself simple as that.
What is the whole point of game reviews? To help people decide if they should buy it or not. Yes I agree you will never know if you like the game if you have not bought it and tried it. However, not everyone has a tree in their backyard growing money. I as well as everyone else prolly missed out on hundreds of games that I would have loved if I had tried it. But people don't have that kinda money to waste on hundreds of games. Only a select few. And reviews believe it or not help in deciding which of those select few to try. But yes, I agree EQ2 is being underrated. Especially when POS games like CoH are getting higher reviews. So I always do my own research as well as look at reviews lightly because some reviews are just outrageous.
Interesting, and something to note too.. if you look at all those reviews, then look at which of those websites has also reviewed WoW.. EVERY SINGLE ONE rates WoW higher.
Anyone else find it hilarious that the "user voting" is 7.1 on that site? Hahaha...
But i guess its those evil WoW fanboys that swamp every gaming site and give the game bad ratings. Yes, that must be it. Its not because EQ2 is another boring treadmill swg-grind and that you people are so much in denial you refuse to realize what an piece of utter garbage it is.
And YES, i HAVE tried the game and it freakin stinks..
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I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
You ever notice on the average that europeans really bash EQ2, and embrace WoW. Why is that.
Remember I said on the average, not trying to start flame war, I am really curious. Is it advertising, more selective gamers, natural prejudice towards an American product?
WOW is more more an american product then EQ2. SOE may be stationed in the US but the bosses of their bosses are japanese.
Anyhow, maybe theyre just bashing eq2 because it stinks.. yes thats probably it. And the fact that SOE robbed them of two titles with great potential twice (swg and eq2).
rawr
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I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
WOW is more more an american product then EQ2. SOE may be stationed in the US but the bosses of their bosses are japanese.
Anyhow, maybe theyre just bashing eq2 because it stinks.. yes thats probably it. And the fact that SOE robbed them of two titles with great potential twice (swg and eq2).
rawr
Ooook I see someone from SoE must have pissed you off in a former life, oh wait your european...guess that answers my question, thanks so much
The true rating of EQ2 is:
Graphics: 7, but potentially a 10 in 3 years when you have the machine to run them. But for what you can run, about a 7 is what you'll get (the green turf without the grass).
Fun: 5, basically, it's the same old grind, but now you have to rapidly work the keyboard where before you could get up and grab a beer or soda while you ground away exp. This game is work. Maybe I'm weighting it too high in the fun factor.
Game World: 5, vast, but very linear in design. Newb island, then Qeynos and related subzones, then Antonica and related subzones, then Thundering Steppes. And two city design, in my opinion, is a failure as I have yet to meet a person who prefers this. Met many who tolerate it, but no one I've talked with on a messageboard has indicated to me that this was a good idea. (Might have some future P vs P possibilities, but that's about it).
Class System: 48 classes in which only half or less are really needed. Very contrived and arduous class system.
Now, stray with me a bit and try to think back to the ending of that 1968 Charlton Heston film "The Planet of the Apes" and how he portrayed a character seeking the truth (endgame?), and how at the end of the film, he had fallen to his knees in despair before the half-buried Statue of Liberty, clenching his fist as he thrust it into the sand and asked "Why?". I bring this up, because that's essentially the likely end-game to EQ2. You'll grind and grind and grind, I bet, then get to the end game and there's nothing, and it was all for nothing, and you will be in despair like our good friend Charlton Heston in that long ago film.
Everquest 2 has missed the mark. Played it, was drained, dissatisfied and am now ordering "guess which game that rates 8.8 right now".
So what's this rapidly working the keyboard business ... I must have missed that. Explain it please because I want to be all that I can be !
BTW, there are not 48 classes ....keep that in mind for your next effort.
It's good to see they let you out for some air though.
Wow, another brilliant review of EQ2. Give me a break, I have have a terrible gaming rig and the graphics are awesome. The game has never once felt like "work" for me. If it did I would quit. I love when thses guys come on here who've played for a week or two and give a review of the entire game. I can assure you that your opinion isn't taken into consideration when you give such an empty review Billius. I especially love the part about "rapidly working the keyboard."
Since you brought up WoW, I'd love to see how much fun you have in the end game there considering you'll get to it in less than two months. Have fun, you won't be missed.
When I play (played) EQ2, I had to constantly hit keys to set off abilities or time Heroic Opportunities. Fast work, similar to playing an EQLive bard. Worse in some ways. So, to maximize your combat efforts, YES, you pretty much need to work the keyboard pretty fast. (Set off this attack, follow with that one, be on guard to hit a flashing button to advance an HO, etc...)
Bottom line: the game plays too fast. I assume they did this to cut down on the buff-boting/dual-boxing, because you really cannot do those sorts of things and be effective in this game. I agree with Sony that those are bad things, but it's also bad that you have to keep on your keyboard and the hotkeys so much that you haven't as much time to socialize. Remember, a MMORPG = game + chatroom, and with a good MMORPG you almost can't peg which it really is, it's so evenly balanced.
EQ2 set out to fix some perceived bad things (i.e., dual-boxing, buff-boting, PL'ing, kill-stealing, etc), but did so at the sacrifice of fun and immersion. Just look at the game world; an almost linear string of zones with Qeynos at one end and Freeport at the other. Playing in this game world, you're on a progression chart, like it or not.
If you don't like my review, fine. Feel free to look around at the different gaming websites. You'll find that EQ2 rates in the 7's to the low 9's (with very little of the latter). That "other game" I'm going to, at the sacrifice of graphical realism (argggg), consistently rates in the high 9's and even 10's on many gaming websites. I'm going to try it. Was briefly in the beta, but didn't give it a chance because of cartoonish graphics, however other folks say the gameplay is legendary and without all the hassle.
If you like EQ2, to each his own, but for me the game is work and after less than a month, I'm throwing in the towel. I just don't have the mental stamina to hang with it anymore. I want to relax with a game and not grind to feel I'm barely keeping up. And I'm sure as heck not going to grind if I'm on my toes and hitting keys all the time.