35 years young. My whole life my my hands and reflexs have been my most important atribute (Musician). They are as sharp as they ever were. The More you use them the slower they will atrophy.
Before I do eventually come out of my shell and join this growing group of gamers with...uhmm...unavoidable effects of aging, I'd just like to ask - is it even possible to start "feeling old and slow right now" at your mid 20s?
Please be gentle.
Yes... the whole "old and slow" thing comes about as you have more responsibility in life and can no longer devote large blocks of time in competitive multiplayer like you did as a younger gamer.
I remember the days of CS, 10 hour blocks of nothing but Mountain Dew and CS clan sessions and before that it was Quake II and Duke Nuke em 3D.
Well, I wouldn't say I've joined in anything competitive - or at least, nothing close to competitive. I did use to be a great back-up or partner for CTF games. And while my KTD ratio wasn't anything to brag about, pals always used to argue of who gets me in their team. I suppose my affinity to cooperate with my team has its merits.
Now that I think of it, I was probably rocket-cannon-laser-plasma-bullet fodder at best. I really couldn't twitch as much as they could. Even more so now, even with high-quality, gaming-grade mice.
I live in a place that seems to hang loosely in a time period that LAN parties are still the most natural thing to do. So playing with friends used to be an every day thing.
Somehow, it then turned into weekly bouts and before I knew it, we're seeing each other twice a month in our ho-hum LAN parties. It's not that we find it hard to organize the party or attend it.
The only problem I see here is a huge azz lack of TESTOSTERONE. Cmon guys, man the fk up....This is embarrassing. Im forty years old as well, and I have no problems with pvp.
If you cant handle it because of twitch characteristics then USE YOUR HEAD AND CUNNING. That should make up for the slow response time. Unless of course your a bit slow. Then nothing will help.
Seriously you guys, your starting to sound like old women.. I CANT HANDLE PVP ANYMORE, IM GETTING TOO OLD AHHHHHHHHHHH FINGER CRAMP/ARTHIRITIS...LET ME PUT MAH DEPENDS ON FIRST AND GRAB MAH METAMUCIL THEN ILL BE READY GUYS...
If I ever get to the point where you guys are at, Ill find the highest waterfall I can and do a swan dive. To everyone else, dont listen to these guys. There ARE testosterone filled forty year olds who will rock your sheot..And Im one of em ...:)
The pussification of Americas men continues..sadly....
(now go eat your bowl of fiber flakes and take a nap).....
I can't tell if this person is just messing around for laughs or generally being a asshat.
It's a fact that competitive multiplayer requires practice. How do you practice in a multiplayer game? by setting decent sized chunks of time aside and playing the game until you stop sucking.
Normally as a person gets older, gets a real career, gets married, builds a family, social ties become more plentiful this reqired time needed to "practice" gets smaller and smaller.
Unless you're forty. Still live at home with mommy. Are single, unemployed (or work at walmart) you will struggle to play the required time to be competitive against children that can play all day (during the summer) and college virgins that have replaced real life social interactions with ones in a video game environment.
It has nothing to do with "manning up" and everything to do with having better shit to do other than blowing childrens heads off in a game.
Got it?
Edit: if anything this thread proves its all about having the time to practice and has nothing to do with age at all. well other than the enevitable Age equals more responsibility equals less gamer time.
Before I do eventually come out of my shell and join this growing group of gamers with...uhmm...unavoidable effects of aging, I'd just like to ask - is it even possible to start "feeling old and slow right now" at your mid 20s?
Please be gentle.
Yes... the whole "old and slow" thing comes about as you have more responsibility in life and can no longer devote large blocks of time in competitive multiplayer like you did as a younger gamer.
I remember the days of CS, 10 hour blocks of nothing but Mountain Dew and CS clan sessions and before that it was Quake II and Duke Nuke em 3D.
Well, I wouldn't say I've joined in anything competitive - or at least, nothing close to competitive. I did use to be a great back-up or partner for CTF games. And while my KTD ratio wasn't anything to brag about, pals always used to argue of who gets me in their team. I suppose my affinity to cooperate with my team has its merits.
Now that I think of it, I was probably rocket-cannon-laser-plasma-bullet fodder at best. I really couldn't twitch as much as they could. Even more so now, even with high-quality, gaming-grade mice.
I live in a place that seems to hang loosely in a time period that LAN parties are still the most natural thing to do. So playing with friends used to be an every day thing.
Somehow, it then turned into weekly bouts and before I knew it, we're seeing each other twice a month in our ho-hum LAN parties. It's not that we find it hard to organize the party or attend it.
LAN parties were great fun. You would think with how powerful laptops are more people would do that stuff but gamings almost totally gone to online. Gaming services like Live and Steam keep me and my friends connected.
Ever since abandoning the much slower gameplay of mmorpg and joining in online multiplayer games I've felt my age. From Starcraft 2 to Bad Company 2 to Super Street Fighter 4 I'm getting my ass pounded like a cheap street hooker. I don't see how I can compete with these kids that have all day to play. Anyone else feel the same way?
don't worry, it's how life goes. it is proven that reflexes decline with age.
also, it depends on your real life situation. i for example have a pretty stressful job, so i never even had the nerve to attempt a half-arse job with rts-games such as SC - just too much to take in and have a good-overview and take fast decisions. if i want that, i can go to work.... hence why i prefer role-playing and mmo and such, it is a slower pace.
The only problem I see here is a huge azz lack of TESTOSTERONE. Cmon guys, man the fk up....This is embarrassing. Im forty years old as well, and I have no problems with pvp.
If you cant handle it because of twitch characteristics then USE YOUR HEAD AND CUNNING. That should make up for the slow response time. Unless of course your a bit slow. Then nothing will help.
Seriously you guys, your starting to sound like old women.. I CANT HANDLE PVP ANYMORE, IM GETTING TOO OLD AHHHHHHHHHHH FINGER CRAMP/ARTHIRITIS...LET ME PUT MAH DEPENDS ON FIRST AND GRAB MAH METAMUCIL THEN ILL BE READY GUYS...
If I ever get to the point where you guys are at, Ill find the highest waterfall I can and do a swan dive. To everyone else, dont listen to these guys. There ARE testosterone filled forty year olds who will rock your sheot..And Im one of em ...:)
The pussification of Americas men continues..sadly....
(now go eat your bowl of fiber flakes and take a nap).....
Before I do eventually come out of my shell and join this growing group of gamers with...uhmm...unavoidable effects of aging, I'd just like to ask - is it even possible to start "feeling old and slow right now" at your mid 20s?
Please be gentle.
Yes... the whole "old and slow" thing comes about as you have more responsibility in life and can no longer devote large blocks of time in competitive multiplayer like you did as a younger gamer.
I remember the days of CS, 10 hour blocks of nothing but Mountain Dew and CS clan sessions and before that it was Quake II and Duke Nuke em 3D.
OMG Quake 2 FTW. That game killed FPS for me. None of them compare to the pure excitment that game created for me. Made it into a UK Div 1 clan. What a game.
DN3d was also cool. Played alot of lan Doom 1 & 2.
You can't beat the good ol days. Shit, did I just say that?
my Kill/death ratio is around 2.3 kills to 1 death so thats ok for an old guy.
You have no reason to complain.
I've played over 35 hours in 3 days ( had a small vacation) to do that.
When i first posted i was geting a .2 k/d ratio which is basically me getting slaughtered.
It happens:
- on 32 player servers
- you play the game as it is supposed to be played to complete objectives instead of careful K/D calculations.
- teams are not even in terms of player IQ and shooting skills.
- you just are unlucky
- you haven't played for a while, you are tired or ill
Sometimes I can as easily racked up 2:1 or higher K/D, sometimes it hits the bottom. I am really objective oriented so it is all about how many of your team mates actually understand that's not a deathmatch game.
Ever since abandoning the much slower gameplay of mmorpg and joining in online multiplayer games I've felt my age. From Starcraft 2 to Bad Company 2 to Super Street Fighter 4 I'm getting my ass pounded like a cheap street hooker. I don't see how I can compete with these kids that have all day to play. Anyone else feel the same way?
It's probably why I started playing MMO's. I'm kidding I started playing MMO's because shooters were getting to be too boring, now I feel that way about MMO's. I do hear what you are saying though. Not too long ago I decided to load up some old shooters I used to enjoy playing and after playing a bit I realised that while I could still kill I was getting killed way more often than I was killing. Where I used to be near the top of the stat list at the end of the map I was now in the bottom half. I aslo found that after playing for a while, regardless of playing poorly, that I just didn't have it in me to play shooters anymore, like I felt that I had "outgrown" them. I may play one again someday but it's going to have to be a title that I want to play and not because of the genre.
my Kill/death ratio is around 2.3 kills to 1 death so thats ok for an old guy.
You have no reason to complain.
Depends on your game mode and how you play. If you play to win on Rush, you'll notice your K/D ratio goes to shit--because going for the box is almost certain death, even if you succeed. If you sit back and snipe people on the box on defense on rush, you'll notice your K/D ratio goes up drastically ^_^. ~~ W/L ratio is what's important, but unfortunately, with random teammates each time that's not really a good barometer.
my Kill/death ratio is around 2.3 kills to 1 death so thats ok for an old guy.
You have no reason to complain.
Depends on your game mode and how you play. If you play to win on Rush, you'll notice your K/D ratio goes to shit--because going for the box is almost certain death, even if you succeed. If you sit back and snipe people on the box on defense on rush, you'll notice your K/D ratio goes up drastically ^_^. ~~ W/L ratio is what's important, but unfortunately, with random teammates each time that's not really a good barometer.
In my opinion BC2 has got some design flaws ( for example rush maps favour defenders ) plus is more team oriented then for example Call of Duty: MW.
You need a doze of luck to actually get a random group of people who will cooperate to win as a team instead of just topping up their K/Ds. Not mentioning that sometimes the opposite team is just better.
My taste has gotten more PvE oriented as I have gotten older, I am 38 now and PvP interests me less and less.
I think I could still be competitive at it if I was a little more interested. I played DAoC at release, was in the top PvP guild on our server, stayed in the top 3 for PvP in my class for over a year, top 2 for 1st 6 months after release. While I have some good memories of that game and the people I played with I have no desire to put that kind of effort and time into a PvP oriented game anymore.
Chalk it up to getting older maybe. But now my idea of a fun time gaming is relaxing after work with something not stressful and doesnt feel like my other job.
I find myself more and more playing my PS3 because I can kick back on my couch or recliner after a hard days work and just chill out.
But back on topic, yeah i am sure I am have slower reflexes and hand / eye coordination now than people half my age. Thats just a fact of getting older I suppose.
I mean, you get slower and worst eye hand coordination with age, but you also get more knowledgeable, what you can't do though is play a game for 4 to 8 hours a day like the kids to this days.
Before I do eventually come out of my shell and join this growing group of gamers with...uhmm...unavoidable effects of aging, I'd just like to ask - is it even possible to start "feeling old and slow right now" at your mid 20s?
Please be gentle.
Yes... the whole "old and slow" thing comes about as you have more responsibility in life and can no longer devote large blocks of time in competitive multiplayer like you did as a younger gamer.
I remember the days of CS, 10 hour blocks of nothing but Mountain Dew and CS clan sessions and before that it was Quake II and Duke Nuke em 3D.
OMG Quake 2 FTW. That game killed FPS for me. None of them compare to the pure excitment that game created for me. Made it into a UK Div 1 clan. What a game.
DN3d was also cool. Played alot of lan Doom 1 & 2.
You can't beat the good ol days. Shit, did I just say that?
i don't agree with that cliche oftentimes, but in the case of FPS games it is very true. they don't make them like they used to. CS hits it big and bam.....almost nothing but military themed FPS games for the past 10 years or so. along with their incongruous mix of "realistic" and arcadey aspects. just enough "realism" to remove an extreme amount of variety, gameplay dynamics & ... well FUN. while still falling far short of being at all realistic. just barely realistic enough to severely castrate the gameplay and promote slower paced, tedious campfests. and NOW they are even adding the worst (grind/progression) aspects of MMOs into the mix to make them suck even more.
i still play Q2 regularly. would play Duke via YANG or Meltdown more if i didn't have poll them to see when new game rooms started up. or if somebody would re-architect the netcode for join-in-progress type games. actually Meltdown added some notifications in the tray for such things, but a sound effect would be alot better.
think i'll jump in for some quick Quake 2 fragging right now. 8) you can type "CONNECT TASTYSPLEEN.NET:27916", and once in game type "GOTO" to see the various types of servers they got. always people playing on tastyspleen.
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35 years young. My whole life my my hands and reflexs have been my most important atribute (Musician). They are as sharp as they ever were. The More you use them the slower they will atrophy.
Well, I wouldn't say I've joined in anything competitive - or at least, nothing close to competitive. I did use to be a great back-up or partner for CTF games. And while my KTD ratio wasn't anything to brag about, pals always used to argue of who gets me in their team. I suppose my affinity to cooperate with my team has its merits.
Now that I think of it, I was probably rocket-cannon-laser-plasma-bullet fodder at best. I really couldn't twitch as much as they could. Even more so now, even with high-quality, gaming-grade mice.
I live in a place that seems to hang loosely in a time period that LAN parties are still the most natural thing to do. So playing with friends used to be an every day thing.
Somehow, it then turned into weekly bouts and before I knew it, we're seeing each other twice a month in our ho-hum LAN parties. It's not that we find it hard to organize the party or attend it.
I can't tell if this person is just messing around for laughs or generally being a asshat.
It's a fact that competitive multiplayer requires practice. How do you practice in a multiplayer game? by setting decent sized chunks of time aside and playing the game until you stop sucking.
Normally as a person gets older, gets a real career, gets married, builds a family, social ties become more plentiful this reqired time needed to "practice" gets smaller and smaller.
Unless you're forty. Still live at home with mommy. Are single, unemployed (or work at walmart) you will struggle to play the required time to be competitive against children that can play all day (during the summer) and college virgins that have replaced real life social interactions with ones in a video game environment.
It has nothing to do with "manning up" and everything to do with having better shit to do other than blowing childrens heads off in a game.
Got it?
Edit: if anything this thread proves its all about having the time to practice and has nothing to do with age at all. well other than the enevitable Age equals more responsibility equals less gamer time.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
LAN parties were great fun. You would think with how powerful laptops are more people would do that stuff but gamings almost totally gone to online. Gaming services like Live and Steam keep me and my friends connected.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
don't worry, it's how life goes. it is proven that reflexes decline with age.
also, it depends on your real life situation. i for example have a pretty stressful job, so i never even had the nerve to attempt a half-arse job with rts-games such as SC - just too much to take in and have a good-overview and take fast decisions. if i want that, i can go to work.... hence why i prefer role-playing and mmo and such, it is a slower pace.
*shrugs*
You have no reason to complain.
Sounds like you are overcompensating.
I've played over 35 hours in 3 days ( had a small vacation) to do that.
When i first posted i was geting a .2 k/d ratio which is basically me getting slaughtered.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
OMG Quake 2 FTW. That game killed FPS for me. None of them compare to the pure excitment that game created for me. Made it into a UK Div 1 clan. What a game.
DN3d was also cool. Played alot of lan Doom 1 & 2.
You can't beat the good ol days. Shit, did I just say that?
It happens:
- on 32 player servers
- you play the game as it is supposed to be played to complete objectives instead of careful K/D calculations.
- teams are not even in terms of player IQ and shooting skills.
- you just are unlucky
- you haven't played for a while, you are tired or ill
Sometimes I can as easily racked up 2:1 or higher K/D, sometimes it hits the bottom. I am really objective oriented so it is all about how many of your team mates actually understand that's not a deathmatch game.
It's probably why I started playing MMO's. I'm kidding I started playing MMO's because shooters were getting to be too boring, now I feel that way about MMO's. I do hear what you are saying though. Not too long ago I decided to load up some old shooters I used to enjoy playing and after playing a bit I realised that while I could still kill I was getting killed way more often than I was killing. Where I used to be near the top of the stat list at the end of the map I was now in the bottom half. I aslo found that after playing for a while, regardless of playing poorly, that I just didn't have it in me to play shooters anymore, like I felt that I had "outgrown" them. I may play one again someday but it's going to have to be a title that I want to play and not because of the genre.
Depends on your game mode and how you play. If you play to win on Rush, you'll notice your K/D ratio goes to shit--because going for the box is almost certain death, even if you succeed. If you sit back and snipe people on the box on defense on rush, you'll notice your K/D ratio goes up drastically ^_^. ~~ W/L ratio is what's important, but unfortunately, with random teammates each time that's not really a good barometer.
In my opinion BC2 has got some design flaws ( for example rush maps favour defenders ) plus is more team oriented then for example Call of Duty: MW.
You need a doze of luck to actually get a random group of people who will cooperate to win as a team instead of just topping up their K/Ds. Not mentioning that sometimes the opposite team is just better.
My taste has gotten more PvE oriented as I have gotten older, I am 38 now and PvP interests me less and less.
I think I could still be competitive at it if I was a little more interested. I played DAoC at release, was in the top PvP guild on our server, stayed in the top 3 for PvP in my class for over a year, top 2 for 1st 6 months after release. While I have some good memories of that game and the people I played with I have no desire to put that kind of effort and time into a PvP oriented game anymore.
Chalk it up to getting older maybe. But now my idea of a fun time gaming is relaxing after work with something not stressful and doesnt feel like my other job.
I find myself more and more playing my PS3 because I can kick back on my couch or recliner after a hard days work and just chill out.
But back on topic, yeah i am sure I am have slower reflexes and hand / eye coordination now than people half my age. Thats just a fact of getting older I suppose.
I'm preety sure it's time constrains.
I mean, you get slower and worst eye hand coordination with age, but you also get more knowledgeable, what you can't do though is play a game for 4 to 8 hours a day like the kids to this days.
i don't agree with that cliche oftentimes, but in the case of FPS games it is very true. they don't make them like they used to. CS hits it big and bam.....almost nothing but military themed FPS games for the past 10 years or so. along with their incongruous mix of "realistic" and arcadey aspects. just enough "realism" to remove an extreme amount of variety, gameplay dynamics & ... well FUN. while still falling far short of being at all realistic. just barely realistic enough to severely castrate the gameplay and promote slower paced, tedious campfests. and NOW they are even adding the worst (grind/progression) aspects of MMOs into the mix to make them suck even more.
i still play Q2 regularly. would play Duke via YANG or Meltdown more if i didn't have poll them to see when new game rooms started up. or if somebody would re-architect the netcode for join-in-progress type games. actually Meltdown added some notifications in the tray for such things, but a sound effect would be alot better.
think i'll jump in for some quick Quake 2 fragging right now. 8) you can type "CONNECT TASTYSPLEEN.NET:27916", and once in game type "GOTO" to see the various types of servers they got. always people playing on tastyspleen.
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