There is no shame in admitting you only read what the OP wrote. You were unaware of the actual progression in this thread.
I did read more than that and what was offered as proof of the opposite has been easily rejected.
So you rejected the developers about their own game? Are you a religion on your own?
Their actions contradict their words (signing up with a cash shop company).
What I reject is that anything has been proven, when there is evidence pointing to their inconsistency.
Funny that you mention religion, because you are the blind believer.
Did you bother to read what was the company's role from my post? I don't think so. As I said, the don't play any role on what "goods" are going to be up there.
The article mentions they run a in game commerce operation. Unless you have another source indicating that's inaccurate, I'm going with the article.
It's not inaccurate, you just prove you don't know what that means one more time. It means they handle the store. They get a good chunk of the money but all the options are provided by En Masse.
There is no shame in admitting you only read what the OP wrote. You were unaware of the actual progression in this thread.
I did read more than that and what was offered as proof of the opposite has been easily rejected.
So you rejected the developers about their own game? Are you a religion on your own?
Their actions contradict their words (signing up with a cash shop company).
What I reject is that anything has been proven, when there is evidence pointing to their inconsistency.
Funny that you mention religion, because you are the blind believer.
Did you bother to read what was the company's role from my post? I don't think so. As I said, the don't play any role on what "goods" are going to be up there.
The article mentions they run a in game commerce operation. Unless you have another source indicating that's inaccurate, I'm going with the article.
It's not inaccurate, you just prove you don't know what that means one more time. It means they handle the store. They get a good chunk of the money but all the options are provided by En Masse.
That there is a shop at all contradicts what the developers said about no microtransatcions. A shop works with microtransactions, be it for vanity or items.
Just proves that you are reading what you wish, not what's written.
There is no shame in admitting you only read what the OP wrote. You were unaware of the actual progression in this thread.
I did read more than that and what was offered as proof of the opposite has been easily rejected.
So you rejected the developers about their own game? Are you a religion on your own?
Their actions contradict their words (signing up with a cash shop company).
What I reject is that anything has been proven, when there is evidence pointing to their inconsistency.
Funny that you mention religion, because you are the blind believer.
Did you bother to read what was the company's role from my post? I don't think so. As I said, the don't play any role on what "goods" are going to be up there.
The article mentions they run a in game commerce operation. Unless you have another source indicating that's inaccurate, I'm going with the article.
It's not inaccurate, you just prove you don't know what that means one more time. It means they handle the store. They get a good chunk of the money but all the options are provided by En Masse.
That there is a shop at all contradicts what the developers said about no microtransatcions. A shop works with microtransactions, be it for vanity or items.
Just proves that you are reading what you wish, not what's written.
I never denied the fact they might have vanity items...your point?
There is no shame in admitting you only read what the OP wrote. You were unaware of the actual progression in this thread.
I did read more than that and what was offered as proof of the opposite has been easily rejected.
So you rejected the developers about their own game? Are you a religion on your own?
Their actions contradict their words (signing up with a cash shop company).
What I reject is that anything has been proven, when there is evidence pointing to their inconsistency.
Funny that you mention religion, because you are the blind believer.
Did you bother to read what was the company's role from my post? I don't think so. As I said, the don't play any role on what "goods" are going to be up there.
The article mentions they run a in game commerce operation. Unless you have another source indicating that's inaccurate, I'm going with the article.
It's not inaccurate, you just prove you don't know what that means one more time. It means they handle the store. They get a good chunk of the money but all the options are provided by En Masse.
That there is a shop at all contradicts what the developers said about no microtransatcions. A shop works with microtransactions, be it for vanity or items.
Just proves that you are reading what you wish, not what's written.
I never denied the fact they might have vanity items...your point?
My point is that developers said "no microtransactions", but they signed with a company that will provide a microtransaction shop.
What makes you think that they lied just about the vanity, but not about the items?
There is no shame in admitting you only read what the OP wrote. You were unaware of the actual progression in this thread.
I did read more than that and what was offered as proof of the opposite has been easily rejected.
So you rejected the developers about their own game? Are you a religion on your own?
Their actions contradict their words (signing up with a cash shop company).
What I reject is that anything has been proven, when there is evidence pointing to their inconsistency.
Funny that you mention religion, because you are the blind believer.
Did you bother to read what was the company's role from my post? I don't think so. As I said, the don't play any role on what "goods" are going to be up there.
The article mentions they run a in game commerce operation. Unless you have another source indicating that's inaccurate, I'm going with the article.
It's not inaccurate, you just prove you don't know what that means one more time. It means they handle the store. They get a good chunk of the money but all the options are provided by En Masse.
That there is a shop at all contradicts what the developers said about no microtransatcions. A shop works with microtransactions, be it for vanity or items.
Just proves that you are reading what you wish, not what's written.
I never denied the fact they might have vanity items...your point?
My point is that developers said "no microtransactions", but they signed with a company that will provide a microtransaction shop.
What makes you think that they lied just about the vanity, but not about the items?
They didn't lie about the vanity, further down in the article they admitted the possibility of having such stuff.
They didn't say "no microtransactions", they said it won't be a micro-transaction game meaning that the game won't depend on microtransactions. They accepted the possiblity about vanity but denied the items. Simple as that. They didn't lie to anyone.
There is no shame in admitting you only read what the OP wrote. You were unaware of the actual progression in this thread.
I did read more than that and what was offered as proof of the opposite has been easily rejected.
So you rejected the developers about their own game? Are you a religion on your own?
Their actions contradict their words (signing up with a cash shop company).
What I reject is that anything has been proven, when there is evidence pointing to their inconsistency.
Funny that you mention religion, because you are the blind believer.
Did you bother to read what was the company's role from my post? I don't think so. As I said, the don't play any role on what "goods" are going to be up there.
The article mentions they run a in game commerce operation. Unless you have another source indicating that's inaccurate, I'm going with the article.
It's not inaccurate, you just prove you don't know what that means one more time. It means they handle the store. They get a good chunk of the money but all the options are provided by En Masse.
That there is a shop at all contradicts what the developers said about no microtransatcions. A shop works with microtransactions, be it for vanity or items.
Just proves that you are reading what you wish, not what's written.
I never denied the fact they might have vanity items...your point?
My point is that developers said "no microtransactions", but they signed with a company that will provide a microtransaction shop.
What makes you think that they lied just about the vanity, but not about the items?
They didn't lie about the vanity, further down in the article they admitted the possibility of having such stuff.
They didn't say "no microtransactions", they said it won't be a micro-transaction game meaning that the game won't depend on such things. They accepted the possiblity about vanity but denied the items. Simple as that. They didn't lie to anyone.
They did say no microtransactions, it's in the article.
For some reason you chose to believe that they mean "no game items". That's wishful thinking.
There is no shame in admitting you only read what the OP wrote. You were unaware of the actual progression in this thread.
I did read more than that and what was offered as proof of the opposite has been easily rejected.
So you rejected the developers about their own game? Are you a religion on your own?
Their actions contradict their words (signing up with a cash shop company).
What I reject is that anything has been proven, when there is evidence pointing to their inconsistency.
Funny that you mention religion, because you are the blind believer.
Did you bother to read what was the company's role from my post? I don't think so. As I said, the don't play any role on what "goods" are going to be up there.
The article mentions they run a in game commerce operation. Unless you have another source indicating that's inaccurate, I'm going with the article.
It's not inaccurate, you just prove you don't know what that means one more time. It means they handle the store. They get a good chunk of the money but all the options are provided by En Masse.
That there is a shop at all contradicts what the developers said about no microtransatcions. A shop works with microtransactions, be it for vanity or items.
Just proves that you are reading what you wish, not what's written.
I never denied the fact they might have vanity items...your point?
My point is that developers said "no microtransactions", but they signed with a company that will provide a microtransaction shop.
What makes you think that they lied just about the vanity, but not about the items?
They didn't lie about the vanity, further down in the article they admitted the possibility of having such stuff.
They didn't say "no microtransactions", they said it won't be a micro-transaction game meaning that the game won't depend on such things. They accepted the possiblity about vanity but denied the items. Simple as that. They didn't lie to anyone.
They did say no microtransactions, it's in the article.
For some reason you chose to believe that they mean "no game items". That's wishful thinking.
So let me get this straight. By micro-transactions they mean items that give advantages. You mean items that give advantages and vanity stuff. So go argue with them whose definition is better. I couldn't care less. Their point is made known. They will probably have vanity stuff but no items that provide advantages.
Originally posted by Rynne So let me get this straight. By micro-transactions they mean items that give advantages. You mean items that give advantages and vanity stuff. So go argue with them whose definition is better. I couldn't care less. Their point is made known. They will probably have vanity stuff but no items that provide advantages.
Great. No harm no foul. Nothing more than a vanity item shop, and a subscription-based player achievement mmo. We're good to go, then,
Originally posted by Rynne So let me get this straight. By micro-transactions they mean items that give advantages. You mean items that give advantages and vanity stuff. So go argue with them whose definition is better. I couldn't care less. Their point is made known. They will probably have vanity stuff but no items that provide advantages.
Great. No harm no foul. Nothing more than a vanity item shop, and a subscription-based player achievement mmo. We're good to go, then,
Okay so...I have no interest in TERA At all. It looks pretty, but the combat system isn't really my thing. I guess I'm a traditionalist.
Anyway that's not what this is about. IF I were interested in TERA, the mention of an Item Mall is not something that would bother me. Why are people so worried about cosmetic items? Why begrudge players who have that extra cash flow, the opportunity to alter their characters? I could understand if the cash shop actually make someone stronger than you, but unless those new shoes come with +10 Awesome, who gives a shit?
I dunno...I think if players want developers to pay attention, they should learn to pick their battles. Surely there's something better to bitch about than someone looking different than you?
I don't know anything about Frogster so I can't address that. If you dislike the company for some reason then that may be a more legitimate reason to boycott. But aesthetic cash shop...really?
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Okay so...I have no interest in TERA At all. It looks pretty, but the combat system isn't really my thing. I guess I'm a traditionalist.
Anyway that's not what this is about. IF I were interested in TERA, the mention of an Item Mall is not something that would bother me. Why are people so worried about cosmetic items? Why begrudge players who have that extra cash flow, the opportunity to alter their characters? I could understand if the cash shop actually make someone stronger than you, but unless those new shoes come with +10 Awesome, who gives a shit?
I dunno...I think if players want developers to pay attention, they should learn to pick their battles. Surely there's something better to bitch about than someone looking different than you?
I don't know anything about Frogster so I can't address that. If you dislike the company for some reason then that may be a more legitimate reason to boycott. But aesthetic cash shop...really?
Ppl got used that equation item shop = being op. Considering that most item shops are like that, as most of them are in f2p games and here we all know how it looks, I can't really blame the community for such approach. I'ts poor yeah but it's understandable.
If it were just Sub + item shop being discussed in this thread I would have held off on making a judgement since most have a tendency to forget that pretty much all pay to play MMO's have a service and fluff store.
But, finding out they went with Frogster.... well I'm writing this game off now.
Runes of Magic, Bounty Bay, Throne of Fire, and Mythos are all examples of Frogsters item mall and how they like to do things.
Tera didn't look or sound to be this low grade, but... going with Frogster says it is so I guess good luck to those that are still interested. I wish you all the best.
so u sayin i cant Grief ppl with my Popori slayer pumped with cashshop itens OPred!!!!!! i cant belive... im sure they wont let me down! oh please ,,, at least a Xp boost to ease the grind
If it were just Sub + item shop being discussed in this thread I would have held off on making a judgement since most have a tendency to forget that pretty much all pay to play MMO's have a service and fluff store.
But, finding out they went with Frogster.... well I'm writing this game off now.
Runes of Magic, Bounty Bay, Throne of Fire, and Mythos are all examples of Frogsters item mall and how they like to do things.
Tera didn't look or sound to be this low grade, but... going with Frogster says it is so I guess good luck to those that are still interested. I wish you all the best.
Except none of those games are sub-based...Sorry bud. Nothing shown yet to assume Tera is going to have an item-shop.
If it were just Sub + item shop being discussed in this thread I would have held off on making a judgement since most have a tendency to forget that pretty much all pay to play MMO's have a service and fluff store.
But, finding out they went with Frogster.... well I'm writing this game off now.
Runes of Magic, Bounty Bay, Throne of Fire, and Mythos are all examples of Frogsters item mall and how they like to do things.
Tera didn't look or sound to be this low grade, but... going with Frogster says it is so I guess good luck to those that are still interested. I wish you all the best.
Except none of those games are sub-based...Sorry bud. Nothing shown yet to assume Tera is going to have an item-shop.
lol, all I know is this. I really dislike Frogster. It's been reserved for sub par MMO's for as long as I've known about frogster. If Frogster was the only one they could get for Tera, well that says all I need to know about the game. It would have been better to self publish and do digital only vs. to signing with Frogster.
Item mall, no item mall, doesn't matter but when Frogster is the best you can get it's enough of a sign for me to walk away. I mean seriously lol, gpotato and frogster are like bottom of the barrel publishers for MMO's lol.
Since you missed the key parts of the post you replied to I highlighted them in red in the hopes that you would see my issue this time instead of skimming over it and saying "I didn't read your post.....sorry bud".
If it were just Sub + item shop being discussed in this thread I would have held off on making a judgement since most have a tendency to forget that pretty much all pay to play MMO's have a service and fluff store.
But, finding out they went with Frogster.... well I'm writing this game off now.
Runes of Magic, Bounty Bay, Throne of Fire, and Mythos are all examples of Frogsters item mall and how they like to do things.
Tera didn't look or sound to be this low grade, but... going with Frogster says it is so I guess good luck to those that are still interested. I wish you all the best.
Except none of those games are sub-based...Sorry bud. Nothing shown yet to assume Tera is going to have an item-shop.
lol, all I know is this. I really dislike Frogster. It's been reserved for sub par MMO's for as long as I've known about frogster. If Frogster was the only one they could get for Tera, well that says all I need to know about the game. It would have been better to self publish and do digital only vs. to signing with Frogster.
Item mall, no item mall, doesn't matter but when Frogster is the best you can get it's enough of a sign for me to walk away. I mean seriously lol, gpotato and frogster are like bottom of the barrel publishers for MMO's lol.
Since you missed the key parts of the post you replied to I highlighted them in red in the hopes that you would see my issue this time instead of skimming over it and saying "I didn't read your post.....sorry bud".
Who cares about the EU version? That's for anti socials and French people. Join the American servers like any good pvper who wants competition.
If it were just Sub + item shop being discussed in this thread I would have held off on making a judgement since most have a tendency to forget that pretty much all pay to play MMO's have a service and fluff store.
But, finding out they went with Frogster.... well I'm writing this game off now.
Runes of Magic, Bounty Bay, Throne of Fire, and Mythos are all examples of Frogsters item mall and how they like to do things.
Tera didn't look or sound to be this low grade, but... going with Frogster says it is so I guess good luck to those that are still interested. I wish you all the best.
Except none of those games are sub-based...Sorry bud. Nothing shown yet to assume Tera is going to have an item-shop.
lol, all I know is this. I really dislike Frogster. It's been reserved for sub par MMO's for as long as I've known about frogster. If Frogster was the only one they could get for Tera, well that says all I need to know about the game. It would have been better to self publish and do digital only vs. to signing with Frogster.
Item mall, no item mall, doesn't matter but when Frogster is the best you can get it's enough of a sign for me to walk away. I mean seriously lol, gpotato and frogster are like bottom of the barrel publishers for MMO's lol.
Since you missed the key parts of the post you replied to I highlighted them in red in the hopes that you would see my issue this time instead of skimming over it and saying "I didn't read your post.....sorry bud".
So you base your opinion of a game's impression solely on who is going to publish it in a specific region? Well, that says much. If that's how you think then I can't really do anything to help, I agree that Frogster is not the best company but if they do things right for once then I don't see anything to worry about. But just to be on the safe, do what I'm gonna do and go with En Masse for this one. And I live in Europe.
I have to go with Rynne on this one too Grayghost, I'm sorry but basing how a game is going to do on Frogster is shallow and unbased unless the game comes out and is changed. Considering from the sound of it you don't even know what Frogster's role in the game is. EME has clearly stated that Frogster is there for nothing more than to host the EU servers, they will be doing exactly what BHS & EME tell them which is going to be take the great game EME is building and host its servers in the EU and they'll get a cut of the subscriptions, I doubt you are going to see a different game at all between the US and EU versions.
On top of that there is going to be no IP blocking on the game so EU/US people will be able to sub to whichever locale they want to. Unless you can give hard evidence that Frogster is actually going to change this game to a F2P model with their own mechanics involved, which I know you can't you have no reason to come around here claiming Tera is going to not be worth playing simple because you don't like Frogster considering they will have no part in the development/finalization process.
I have to go with Rynne on this one too Grayghost, I'm sorry but basing how a game is going to do on Frogster is shallow and unbased unless the game comes out and is changed. Considering from the sound of it you don't even know what Frogster's role in the game is. EME has clearly stated that Frogster is there for nothing more than to host the EU servers, they will be doing exactly what BHS & EME tell them which is going to be take the great game EME is building and host its servers in the EU and they'll get a cut of the subscriptions, I doubt you are going to see a different game at all between the US and EU versions.
On top of that there is going to be no IP blocking on the game so EU/US people will be able to sub to whichever locale they want to. Unless you can give hard evidence that Frogster is actually going to change this game to a F2P model with their own mechanics involved, which I know you can't you have no reason to come around here claiming Tera is going to not be worth playing simple because you don't like Frogster considering they will have no part in the development/finalization process.
Look lol, I'm not saying everyone should stay away from this game. I simply stated that I personally will be staying away after seeing frogster's name associated with the game. I don't care to what degree their involved, just knowing that in some way they are involved is enough for me.
I don't care if it's shallow and unbased lol.
Again, I don't care what there role is. Thats like saying "Well yes Dr. Kevorkian works at the hospital but he's not part of the medical staff, he's just the janitor so you shouldn't worry about it".
Yes, Yes, I know Frogster isn't comparable to Dr. Kevorkian lol it's simply an analogy so don't get your panties in a bunch over it.
But in any case, I can save you some trouble in the future. Regardless of what you or Rynne feel, I simply dislike Frogster enough that I'm willing to write off a game simply hearing they're involved and yes that will remain true regardless of their level of involvement.
If that bothers you, well I don't really care lol.
TERA is another asian grinder attemtpting to profit from the "gamers" that hop from game to game looking for the next big thing. For Pete's sake... the game world isn't seamless, girls fighting monsters in their panties and TERA is claming to be a next generation MMORPG?
Okay - this isn't relevant to the subject at hand, find another thread or make your own if you want to discuss that (though it doesn't really sound like you want to 'discuss' anything).
On topic - I don't see what the big deal is. WoW has the same thing, as do other games and they don't effect anything. It's highly unlikely that they are going to add anything into the cash shop that would imbalance gameplay, which as far as I can see is the only reason to dislike cash shops. If you're saying "oh that's it, not playing this game" after this news - you weren't going to play in the first place.
Do you going on drugs or something did mom not tell you get your hands of cookie jare were in Earth has wow to do whit this. ? has wow now Itemshop that was complete new thing for me becouse last time i checked it has not itemshop. And second just becouse you saying that if we not like this approch we weren't to play it anyway howe do you know that. Sorry but you are full of shit mr.
TERA is another asian grinder attemtpting to profit from the "gamers" that hop from game to game looking for the next big thing. For Pete's sake... the game world isn't seamless, girls fighting monsters in their panties and TERA is claming to be a next generation MMORPG?
Okay - this isn't relevant to the subject at hand, find another thread or make your own if you want to discuss that (though it doesn't really sound like you want to 'discuss' anything).
On topic - I don't see what the big deal is. WoW has the same thing, as do other games and they don't effect anything. It's highly unlikely that they are going to add anything into the cash shop that would imbalance gameplay, which as far as I can see is the only reason to dislike cash shops. If you're saying "oh that's it, not playing this game" after this news - you weren't going to play in the first place.
Do you going on drugs or something did mom not tell you get your hands of cookie jare were in Earth has wow to do whit this. ? has wow now Itemshop that was complete new thing for me becouse last time i checked it has not itemshop. And second just becouse you saying that if we not like this approch we weren't to play it anyway howe do you know that. Sorry but you are full of shit mr.
WoW has a shop and its the same as the one TERA is going to have.
TERA is another asian grinder attemtpting to profit from the "gamers" that hop from game to game looking for the next big thing. For Pete's sake... the game world isn't seamless, girls fighting monsters in their panties and TERA is claming to be a next generation MMORPG?
Okay - this isn't relevant to the subject at hand, find another thread or make your own if you want to discuss that (though it doesn't really sound like you want to 'discuss' anything).
On topic - I don't see what the big deal is. WoW has the same thing, as do other games and they don't effect anything. It's highly unlikely that they are going to add anything into the cash shop that would imbalance gameplay, which as far as I can see is the only reason to dislike cash shops. If you're saying "oh that's it, not playing this game" after this news - you weren't going to play in the first place.
Do you going on drugs or something did mom not tell you get your hands of cookie jare were in Earth has wow to do whit this. ? has wow now Itemshop that was complete new thing for me becouse last time i checked it has not itemshop. And second just becouse you saying that if we not like this approch we weren't to play it anyway howe do you know that. Sorry but you are full of shit mr.
WoW has a shop and its the same as the one TERA is going to have.
Sure regular shops but that is not what this is about we talking about itemshops as microtransaction and that has not wow yet maybe in future.
TERA is another asian grinder attemtpting to profit from the "gamers" that hop from game to game looking for the next big thing. For Pete's sake... the game world isn't seamless, girls fighting monsters in their panties and TERA is claming to be a next generation MMORPG?
Okay - this isn't relevant to the subject at hand, find another thread or make your own if you want to discuss that (though it doesn't really sound like you want to 'discuss' anything).
On topic - I don't see what the big deal is. WoW has the same thing, as do other games and they don't effect anything. It's highly unlikely that they are going to add anything into the cash shop that would imbalance gameplay, which as far as I can see is the only reason to dislike cash shops. If you're saying "oh that's it, not playing this game" after this news - you weren't going to play in the first place.
Do you going on drugs or something did mom not tell you get your hands of cookie jare were in Earth has wow to do whit this. ? has wow now Itemshop that was complete new thing for me becouse last time i checked it has not itemshop. And second just becouse you saying that if we not like this approch we weren't to play it anyway howe do you know that. Sorry but you are full of shit mr.
WoW has a shop and its the same as the one TERA is going to have.
Sure regular shops but that is not what this is about we talking about itemshops as microtransaction and that has not wow yet maybe in future.
Then stop talking about item shops cause fortunately this game won't have one.
Can someone just close this thread with a message that says "Oops, no item shop!"
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TERA is another asian grinder attemtpting to profit from the "gamers" that hop from game to game looking for the next big thing. For Pete's sake... the game world isn't seamless, girls fighting monsters in their panties and TERA is claming to be a next generation MMORPG?
Okay - this isn't relevant to the subject at hand, find another thread or make your own if you want to discuss that (though it doesn't really sound like you want to 'discuss' anything).
On topic - I don't see what the big deal is. WoW has the same thing, as do other games and they don't effect anything. It's highly unlikely that they are going to add anything into the cash shop that would imbalance gameplay, which as far as I can see is the only reason to dislike cash shops. If you're saying "oh that's it, not playing this game" after this news - you weren't going to play in the first place.
Do you going on drugs or something did mom not tell you get your hands of cookie jare were in Earth has wow to do whit this. ? has wow now Itemshop that was complete new thing for me becouse last time i checked it has not itemshop. And second just becouse you saying that if we not like this approch we weren't to play it anyway howe do you know that. Sorry but you are full of shit mr.
WoW has a shop and its the same as the one TERA is going to have.
Sure regular shops but that is not what this is about we talking about itemshops as microtransaction and that has not wow yet maybe in future.
Then stop talking about item shops cause fortunately this game won't have one.
Currently doesn't have one planned or currently doesn't have one would be accurate. Can't say won't.
LotRO - Lord of the Rings Online
EQ2 - Ever Quest 2
DDO - Dungeons and Dragons Online
CO - Champions Online
(possibly STO in the near future)
PotBS - Pirates of the Burning Sea
Because as is proven time and time again, no one knows what the future holds for certain.
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It's not inaccurate, you just prove you don't know what that means one more time. It means they handle the store. They get a good chunk of the money but all the options are provided by En Masse.
That there is a shop at all contradicts what the developers said about no microtransatcions. A shop works with microtransactions, be it for vanity or items.
Just proves that you are reading what you wish, not what's written.
I never denied the fact they might have vanity items...your point?
My point is that developers said "no microtransactions", but they signed with a company that will provide a microtransaction shop.
What makes you think that they lied just about the vanity, but not about the items?
They didn't lie about the vanity, further down in the article they admitted the possibility of having such stuff.
They didn't say "no microtransactions", they said it won't be a micro-transaction game meaning that the game won't depend on microtransactions. They accepted the possiblity about vanity but denied the items. Simple as that. They didn't lie to anyone.
They did say no microtransactions, it's in the article.
For some reason you chose to believe that they mean "no game items". That's wishful thinking.
So let me get this straight. By micro-transactions they mean items that give advantages. You mean items that give advantages and vanity stuff. So go argue with them whose definition is better. I couldn't care less. Their point is made known. They will probably have vanity stuff but no items that provide advantages.
Great. No harm no foul. Nothing more than a vanity item shop, and a subscription-based player achievement mmo. We're good to go, then,
This.
Okay so...I have no interest in TERA
At all. It looks pretty, but the combat system isn't really my thing. I guess I'm a traditionalist.
Anyway that's not what this is about. IF I were interested in TERA, the mention of an Item Mall is not something that would bother me. Why are people so worried about cosmetic items? Why begrudge players who have that extra cash flow, the opportunity to alter their characters? I could understand if the cash shop actually make someone stronger than you, but unless those new shoes come with +10 Awesome, who gives a shit?
I dunno...I think if players want developers to pay attention, they should learn to pick their battles. Surely there's something better to bitch about than someone looking different than you?
I don't know anything about Frogster so I can't address that. If you dislike the company for some reason then that may be a more legitimate reason to boycott. But aesthetic cash shop...really?
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Ppl got used that equation item shop = being op. Considering that most item shops are like that, as most of them are in f2p games and here we all know how it looks, I can't really blame the community for such approach. I'ts poor yeah but it's understandable.
If it were just Sub + item shop being discussed in this thread I would have held off on making a judgement since most have a tendency to forget that pretty much all pay to play MMO's have a service and fluff store.
But, finding out they went with Frogster.... well I'm writing this game off now.
Runes of Magic, Bounty Bay, Throne of Fire, and Mythos are all examples of Frogsters item mall and how they like to do things.
Tera didn't look or sound to be this low grade, but... going with Frogster says it is so I guess good luck to those that are still interested. I wish you all the best.
so u sayin i cant Grief ppl with my Popori slayer pumped with cashshop itens OPred!!!!!! i cant belive... im sure they wont let me down! oh please ,,, at least a Xp boost to ease the grind
Except none of those games are sub-based...Sorry bud. Nothing shown yet to assume Tera is going to have an item-shop.
lol, all I know is this. I really dislike Frogster. It's been reserved for sub par MMO's for as long as I've known about frogster. If Frogster was the only one they could get for Tera, well that says all I need to know about the game. It would have been better to self publish and do digital only vs. to signing with Frogster.
Item mall, no item mall, doesn't matter but when Frogster is the best you can get it's enough of a sign for me to walk away. I mean seriously lol, gpotato and frogster are like bottom of the barrel publishers for MMO's lol.
Since you missed the key parts of the post you replied to I highlighted them in red in the hopes that you would see my issue this time instead of skimming over it and saying "I didn't read your post.....sorry bud".
Who cares about the EU version? That's for anti socials and French people. Join the American servers like any good pvper who wants competition.
So you base your opinion of a game's impression solely on who is going to publish it in a specific region? Well, that says much. If that's how you think then I can't really do anything to help, I agree that Frogster is not the best company but if they do things right for once then I don't see anything to worry about. But just to be on the safe, do what I'm gonna do and go with En Masse for this one. And I live in Europe.
I have to go with Rynne on this one too Grayghost, I'm sorry but basing how a game is going to do on Frogster is shallow and unbased unless the game comes out and is changed. Considering from the sound of it you don't even know what Frogster's role in the game is. EME has clearly stated that Frogster is there for nothing more than to host the EU servers, they will be doing exactly what BHS & EME tell them which is going to be take the great game EME is building and host its servers in the EU and they'll get a cut of the subscriptions, I doubt you are going to see a different game at all between the US and EU versions.
On top of that there is going to be no IP blocking on the game so EU/US people will be able to sub to whichever locale they want to. Unless you can give hard evidence that Frogster is actually going to change this game to a F2P model with their own mechanics involved, which I know you can't you have no reason to come around here claiming Tera is going to not be worth playing simple because you don't like Frogster considering they will have no part in the development/finalization process.
Look lol, I'm not saying everyone should stay away from this game. I simply stated that I personally will be staying away after seeing frogster's name associated with the game. I don't care to what degree their involved, just knowing that in some way they are involved is enough for me.
I don't care if it's shallow and unbased lol.
Again, I don't care what there role is. Thats like saying "Well yes Dr. Kevorkian works at the hospital but he's not part of the medical staff, he's just the janitor so you shouldn't worry about it".
Yes, Yes, I know Frogster isn't comparable to Dr. Kevorkian lol it's simply an analogy so don't get your panties in a bunch over it.
But in any case, I can save you some trouble in the future. Regardless of what you or Rynne feel, I simply dislike Frogster enough that I'm willing to write off a game simply hearing they're involved and yes that will remain true regardless of their level of involvement.
If that bothers you, well I don't really care lol.
Do you going on drugs or something did mom not tell you get your hands of cookie jare were in Earth has wow to do whit this. ? has wow now Itemshop that was complete new thing for me becouse last time i checked it has not itemshop. And second just becouse you saying that if we not like this approch we weren't to play it anyway howe do you know that. Sorry but you are full of shit mr.
WoW has a shop and its the same as the one TERA is going to have.
Sure regular shops but that is not what this is about we talking about itemshops as microtransaction and that has not wow yet maybe in future.
Then stop talking about item shops cause fortunately this game won't have one.
Can someone just close this thread with a message that says "Oops, no item shop!"
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Important facts:
1. Free to Play games are poorly made.
2. Casuals are not all idiots, but idiots call themselves casuals.
3. Great solo and group content are not mutually exclusive, but they suffer when one is shoved into the mold of the other. The same is true of PvP and PvE.
4. Community is more important than you think.
Currently doesn't have one planned or currently doesn't have one would be accurate. Can't say won't.
LotRO - Lord of the Rings Online
EQ2 - Ever Quest 2
DDO - Dungeons and Dragons Online
CO - Champions Online
(possibly STO in the near future)
PotBS - Pirates of the Burning Sea
Because as is proven time and time again, no one knows what the future holds for certain.