Way to go Blizzard. They had every right to sue this moron for everything, including the kitchen sink. Stealing is just that, stealing. Using someone elses intelectual property, which they spent millions to create mind you, to make a profit or not is wrong and illiegal. It's no different than if someone toke your car without your permission and offered rides to everyone who didnt want to pay for gas.
Priv Server are more like this:
You as an engineer invent a car model and start selling it, now some guy comes along and takes it apart analyzes it and brings your model with his modifikations on the market while looking 99% the same and for half the prize. That is what private servers are about, good ones offer events / modifikations you wont see on live servers ever.
Personally, I'm glad this has happened. The right to run a WoW server without permission isn't allowed (if I recall it IS explicitly stated in the EULA) and the IP and copyright didn't belong to these people, and yet they still sought to make money from it.
The EULA allows the user to use the software within the limited context stated in the EULA, the user is agreeing to the contract bound by the EULA when they install and play the software. In the case of software, there is no rights infringement and no law exists which explicitly states that you can rip off ANY IP or copyrighted material whenever you feel the need to. In short, you need the IP / copyright owners permission to make copies of or modify copyrighted material in any way.
Now, I've nothing against private servers in general, IF and ONLY IF, the company who owns the IP allows it and the person or persons running the server do not try to make money from it.
Scapegaming neither sought the permission from Blizzard and succeeded in making money from the operation of their private servers. Therefore, they deserve everything they got. They knew what they were doing was wrong.
The fact of the matter is most companies with IT based business make money from their contracts, not from their initial product. I would venture to say that around 5-8% of Blizzard's WoW profits come from selling the game and the rest comes from the monthly fees. That is their business. IUt doesn't matter if the company makes 5 dollars or 5 million; they made the product, hired the people to make it work, and have supported it over the last 6-7 years. And for all those who say bah, look at how many MMO companies fail.
The IT company I work for doesn't make nearly the bank Blizz does, but they would do just the same if they found out someone took our product and made money off of it. And I am sorry, i don't buy the poor single mother crap. It took bank to get a server like that set up and running with multiple clients...the cost in power and bandwidth alone would be crazy.
Stop thinking you are intitled to whatever you want without working for it!
So instead of going after the multi-million dollar slavetraders (gold sellers), they go after a single individual who obviously will never be able to pay such a debt..
Wow! Lots of hype about this topic I see. I personally am against "Private Servers" When ever someone tells me they play, have played, or know someone the plays or has played on a "Private Server". It makes me feel about the same way a cheater in an FPS using a "Trainner" makes me feel.
IT IS JUST FREAKING WRONG!
I mean people always try to justify their wrong deeds. By making up some lame excuse. But they know it is wrong.
I'm super happy for Blizzard being able to win a case like this. It is crap like this that takes away from the money they make to help pay people to produce more content for people like us that pay for it.
You can say what you want, the reason people pay on private servers is most likely cause they don't think you should have to pay a subscription for a game. (Like some physcho's think you should not have to pay taxes, it's the same mentality). That "Stick it to the Man Crap". What if they were the man? Would they want someone to "Stick it to them?" Most likely not.
I'd be willing to bet good money that a lot of those people on that server, have become so addicted to World of Warcraft, that they will succum and pay a subscription fee to play their precious game.
Wow! Lots of hype about this topic I see. I personally am against "Private Servers" When ever someone tells me they play, have played, or know someone the plays or has played on a "Private Server". It makes me feel about the same way a cheater in an FPS using a "Trainner" makes me feel.
IT IS JUST FREAKING WRONG!
I mean people always try to justify their wrong deeds. By making up some lame excuse. But they know it is wrong.
I'm super happy for Blizzard being able to win a case like this. It is crap like this that takes away from the money they make to help pay people to produce more content for people like us that pay for it.
You can say what you want, the reason people pay on private servers is most likely cause they don't think you should have to pay a subscription for a game. (Like some physcho's think you should not have to pay taxes, it's the same mentality). That "Stick it to the Man Crap". What if they were the man? Would they want someone to "Stick it to them?" Most likely not.
I'd be willing to bet good money that a lot of those people on that server, have become so addicted to World of Warcraft, that they will succum and pay a subscription fee to play their precious game.
So instead of going after the multi-million dollar slavetraders (gold sellers), they go after a single individual who obviously will never be able to pay such a debt..
Well she defaulted... She choosed to not oppose the claim form blizzard so blizz won hands down. Had she done that she would most likley been given a much lower fine.
She was stupid and she payed for it... and might be paying for it for the rest of her life.
That's alot of trouble to go through for a "free" WoW experience.. Private servers are illegal and pretty much like using "warez".. BUT, I bet there are plenty and I mean PLENTY of them still out there.. This must have been the most popular being that they focused on it, but they have alot of work to do if they want to get em all..
I bet the hardest ones to close down will be the ones that are being ran in other countries..
This seems like a bit too much, she will have to move out of US or live her whole life in debt.
Few people in the world could actually pay such a sum. Of course, I am also confused over the fact that US courts judges people to 200 years in prison.
25 or 50 times the money she got from the operation should be fair enough, not more money than what it originally cost Blizzard to make the game (until release).
I wonder what the implications are, if any, for those working on the private server emulation of pre-CU SWG?
People have tried to make private servers of every older MMO in it's "original" state so they can relive the glory days, it is illegal plain and simply. They generally get shut down the moment the companies find out about them. People have tried it with AC and AC2 many times and then once it's starts to get talked about a bit the site disappears every time.
How wrong you are. L2J for example is quite legal and ncsoft are fully aware of it. At least do some research and not just go with what you have seen thinking emulators = ilegal cause well then you just well fail.
Do some research before you just assume it is legal to run an emulator. It is only legal if the company allows it, and I guarantee Sony isn't going to allow it. Many people in this thread have explained the legal issues with running a private server so I'll let you read through the thread instead of repeating it all here.
This seems like a bit too much, she will have to move out of US or live her whole life in debt.
Few people in the world could actually pay such a sum. Of course, I am also confused over the fact that US courts judges people to 200 years in prison.
25 or 50 times the money she got from the operation should be fair enough, not more money than what it originally cost Blizzard to make the game (until release).
The person found guily made 3 million dollars running this private server. 25 to 50 times that amount would put the judgement between 75 million and 150 million.
I wonder what the implications are, if any, for those working on the private server emulation of pre-CU SWG?
People have tried to make private servers of every older MMO in it's "original" state so they can relive the glory days, it is illegal plain and simply. They generally get shut down the moment the companies find out about them. People have tried it with AC and AC2 many times and then once it's starts to get talked about a bit the site disappears every time.
How wrong you are. L2J for example is quite legal and ncsoft are fully aware of it. At least do some research and not just go with what you have seen thinking emulators = ilegal cause well then you just well fail.
Do some research before you just assume it is legal to run an emulator. It is only legal if the company allows it, and I guarantee Sony isn't going to allow it. Many people in this thread have explained the legal issues with running a private server so I'll let you read through the thread instead of repeating it all here.
SoE does allow some emulated servers out there. Shards of Dalaya has been around for years, and there is no way SoE doesnt know about it.
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Pi*1337/100 = 42
Priv Server are more like this:
You as an engineer invent a car model and start selling it, now some guy comes along and takes it apart analyzes it and brings your model with his modifikations on the market while looking 99% the same and for half the prize. That is what private servers are about, good ones offer events / modifikations you wont see on live servers ever.
Pi*1337/100 = 42
the amount is set by the value of the item stole. That is where the 88.5 million comes from.
Personally, I'm glad this has happened. The right to run a WoW server without permission isn't allowed (if I recall it IS explicitly stated in the EULA) and the IP and copyright didn't belong to these people, and yet they still sought to make money from it.
The EULA allows the user to use the software within the limited context stated in the EULA, the user is agreeing to the contract bound by the EULA when they install and play the software. In the case of software, there is no rights infringement and no law exists which explicitly states that you can rip off ANY IP or copyrighted material whenever you feel the need to. In short, you need the IP / copyright owners permission to make copies of or modify copyrighted material in any way.
Now, I've nothing against private servers in general, IF and ONLY IF, the company who owns the IP allows it and the person or persons running the server do not try to make money from it.
Scapegaming neither sought the permission from Blizzard and succeeded in making money from the operation of their private servers. Therefore, they deserve everything they got. They knew what they were doing was wrong.
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The fact of the matter is most companies with IT based business make money from their contracts, not from their initial product. I would venture to say that around 5-8% of Blizzard's WoW profits come from selling the game and the rest comes from the monthly fees. That is their business. IUt doesn't matter if the company makes 5 dollars or 5 million; they made the product, hired the people to make it work, and have supported it over the last 6-7 years. And for all those who say bah, look at how many MMO companies fail.
The IT company I work for doesn't make nearly the bank Blizz does, but they would do just the same if they found out someone took our product and made money off of it. And I am sorry, i don't buy the poor single mother crap. It took bank to get a server like that set up and running with multiple clients...the cost in power and bandwidth alone would be crazy.
Stop thinking you are intitled to whatever you want without working for it!
I highly doubt you even know what the term 'witch hunt' means. It desn't even apply in following case.
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So instead of going after the multi-million dollar slavetraders (gold sellers), they go after a single individual who obviously will never be able to pay such a debt..
Wow! Lots of hype about this topic I see. I personally am against "Private Servers" When ever someone tells me they play, have played, or know someone the plays or has played on a "Private Server". It makes me feel about the same way a cheater in an FPS using a "Trainner" makes me feel.
IT IS JUST FREAKING WRONG!
I mean people always try to justify their wrong deeds. By making up some lame excuse. But they know it is wrong.
I'm super happy for Blizzard being able to win a case like this. It is crap like this that takes away from the money they make to help pay people to produce more content for people like us that pay for it.
You can say what you want, the reason people pay on private servers is most likely cause they don't think you should have to pay a subscription for a game. (Like some physcho's think you should not have to pay taxes, it's the same mentality). That "Stick it to the Man Crap". What if they were the man? Would they want someone to "Stick it to them?" Most likely not.
I'd be willing to bet good money that a lot of those people on that server, have become so addicted to World of Warcraft, that they will succum and pay a subscription fee to play their precious game.
Wow! Lots of hype about this topic I see. I personally am against "Private Servers" When ever someone tells me they play, have played, or know someone the plays or has played on a "Private Server". It makes me feel about the same way a cheater in an FPS using a "Trainner" makes me feel.
IT IS JUST FREAKING WRONG!
I mean people always try to justify their wrong deeds. By making up some lame excuse. But they know it is wrong.
I'm super happy for Blizzard being able to win a case like this. It is crap like this that takes away from the money they make to help pay people to produce more content for people like us that pay for it.
You can say what you want, the reason people pay on private servers is most likely cause they don't think you should have to pay a subscription for a game. (Like some physcho's think you should not have to pay taxes, it's the same mentality). That "Stick it to the Man Crap". What if they were the man? Would they want someone to "Stick it to them?" Most likely not.
I'd be willing to bet good money that a lot of those people on that server, have become so addicted to World of Warcraft, that they will succum and pay a subscription fee to play their precious game.
Well she defaulted... She choosed to not oppose the claim form blizzard so blizz won hands down. Had she done that she would most likley been given a much lower fine.
She was stupid and she payed for it... and might be paying for it for the rest of her life.
This have been a good conversation
That's alot of trouble to go through for a "free" WoW experience.. Private servers are illegal and pretty much like using "warez".. BUT, I bet there are plenty and I mean PLENTY of them still out there.. This must have been the most popular being that they focused on it, but they have alot of work to do if they want to get em all..
I bet the hardest ones to close down will be the ones that are being ran in other countries..
Generally with a fly swatter you get the ones around you instead of running through the house trying to get them all.
This seems like a bit too much, she will have to move out of US or live her whole life in debt.
Few people in the world could actually pay such a sum. Of course, I am also confused over the fact that US courts judges people to 200 years in prison.
25 or 50 times the money she got from the operation should be fair enough, not more money than what it originally cost Blizzard to make the game (until release).
Do some research before you just assume it is legal to run an emulator. It is only legal if the company allows it, and I guarantee Sony isn't going to allow it. Many people in this thread have explained the legal issues with running a private server so I'll let you read through the thread instead of repeating it all here.
The person found guily made 3 million dollars running this private server. 25 to 50 times that amount would put the judgement between 75 million and 150 million.
People have tried to make private servers of every older MMO in it's "original" state so they can relive the glory days, it is illegal plain and simply. They generally get shut down the moment the companies find out about them. People have tried it with AC and AC2 many times and then once it's starts to get talked about a bit the site disappears every time.
How wrong you are. L2J for example is quite legal and ncsoft are fully aware of it. At least do some research and not just go with what you have seen thinking emulators = ilegal cause well then you just well fail.
Do some research before you just assume it is legal to run an emulator. It is only legal if the company allows it, and I guarantee Sony isn't going to allow it. Many people in this thread have explained the legal issues with running a private server so I'll let you read through the thread instead of repeating it all here.
SoE does allow some emulated servers out there. Shards of Dalaya has been around for years, and there is no way SoE doesnt know about it.private servers suck
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