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Lord of the Rings Online: F2P Launching September 10th

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  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880

    Originally posted by erictlewis



    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.


     

    You do know if you have a paying sub you will have more than a person who uses the item shop right? Seems you didn't do your research but rather just jumped ship when they added the option of f2p.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    Originally posted by erictlewis



    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.


     

    You do know if you have a paying sub you will have more than a person who uses the item shop right? Seems you didn't do your research but rather just jumped ship when they added the option of f2p.

    This seems to be the case with everybody. The F2P hate runs strong in the west, regardless of how well it's done, or how little it changes things for people that would have remained subbed past the crossover. In fact, nothing would have changed for those subbed or with lifetime ones, but I still see people cancelling their expensive 200+ dollar lifetime deals sheerly out of spite.

    It's a shame, and slightly hillarious at the same time. I guess people deserve to lose something they love if trivialities get their panties in that tight of a knot.

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  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by Frostbite05


    Originally posted by erictlewis



    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.


     

    You do know if you have a paying sub you will have more than a person who uses the item shop right? Seems you didn't do your research but rather just jumped ship when they added the option of f2p.

    This seems to be the case with everybody. The F2P hate runs strong in the west, regardless of how well it's done, or how little it changes things for people that would have remained subbed past the crossover. In fact, nothing would have changed for those subbed or with lifetime ones, but I still see people cancelling their expensive 200+ dollar lifetime deals sheerly out of spite.

    It's a shame, and slightly hillarious at the same time. I guess people deserve to lose something they love if trivialities get their panties in that tight of a knot.

    couldn't agree more. The game isn't changing in any negative way. If your a sub nothing changes but you do get more content updates because of the increased revenue that turbine will be getting. That and taking into account there are currently over 300k active subs in the west and even more in china. this move will allow those numbers to grow drastically.

  • erictlewiserictlewis Member UncommonPosts: 3,022

    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    Originally posted by erictlewis



    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.


     

    You do know if you have a paying sub you will have more than a person who uses the item shop right? Seems you didn't do your research but rather just jumped ship when they added the option of f2p.

    This seems to be the case with everybody. The F2P hate runs strong in the west, regardless of how well it's done, or how little it changes things for people that would have remained subbed past the crossover. In fact, nothing would have changed for those subbed or with lifetime ones, but I still see people cancelling their expensive 200+ dollar lifetime deals sheerly out of spite.

    It's a shame, and slightly hillarious at the same time. I guess people deserve to lose something they love if trivialities get their panties in that tight of a knot.

    couldn't agree more. The game isn't changing in any negative way. If your a sub nothing changes but you do get more content updates because of the increased revenue that turbine will be getting. That and taking into account there are currently over 300k active subs in the west and even more in china. this move will allow those numbers to grow drastically.

     There's been tons of other issues with this game. Radiance gear, LI's crafting being killed by that.  The direction of the game is so different of what it first used to be its not even funny.  This was the last straw.   I'm just finally taking folks advise, if you don't like it then leave.  I have 2 lifetime subs and nobody will be playing either one of them.  My loss alone nobody else's. I will be just another vet among many who have decided that its time to go elsewhere. 

  • seabass2003seabass2003 Member Posts: 4,144

    Already have my Elvish Warden made and named. When Sept 10 rolls in away we go.

     

    Oops. Make that Sept. 8th for me.

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  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880

    Originally posted by erictlewis



    Originally posted by Frostbite05


    Originally posted by GTwander


    Originally posted by Frostbite05


    Originally posted by erictlewis



    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.


     

    You do know if you have a paying sub you will have more than a person who uses the item shop right? Seems you didn't do your research but rather just jumped ship when they added the option of f2p.

    This seems to be the case with everybody. The F2P hate runs strong in the west, regardless of how well it's done, or how little it changes things for people that would have remained subbed past the crossover. In fact, nothing would have changed for those subbed or with lifetime ones, but I still see people cancelling their expensive 200+ dollar lifetime deals sheerly out of spite.

    It's a shame, and slightly hillarious at the same time. I guess people deserve to lose something they love if trivialities get their panties in that tight of a knot.

    couldn't agree more. The game isn't changing in any negative way. If your a sub nothing changes but you do get more content updates because of the increased revenue that turbine will be getting. That and taking into account there are currently over 300k active subs in the west and even more in china. this move will allow those numbers to grow drastically.

     There's been tons of other issues with this game. Radiance gear, LI's crafting being killed by that.  The direction of the game is so different of what it first used to be its not even funny.  This was the last straw.   I'm just finally taking folks advise, if you don't like it then leave.  I have 2 lifetime subs and nobody will be playing either one of them.  My loss alone nobody else's. I will be just another vet among many who have decided that its time to go elsewhere. 


     

    Thats great hope you find a great new game that suits your needs. There really is nothing wrong with that. You don't like the direction the game is taking. The vast majority do. Might i suggest a game like Ryzom or maybe Eve both might be up your ally (being serious btw)

  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by Frostbite05


    Originally posted by erictlewis



    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.


     

    You do know if you have a paying sub you will have more than a person who uses the item shop right? Seems you didn't do your research but rather just jumped ship when they added the option of f2p.

    This seems to be the case with everybody. The F2P hate runs strong in the west, regardless of how well it's done, or how little it changes things for people that would have remained subbed past the crossover. In fact, nothing would have changed for those subbed or with lifetime ones, but I still see people cancelling their expensive 200+ dollar lifetime deals sheerly out of spite.

    It's a shame, and slightly hillarious at the same time. I guess people deserve to lose something they love if trivialities get their panties in that tight of a knot.

    Thats odd. What I find hillarious  is the people that just love this game now but didnt like it well enough to pay for it.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • it already has millions of players...

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,969

    Originally posted by erictlewis

    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.

    What item can you get in the shop that you can't get in game?

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  • erictlewiserictlewis Member UncommonPosts: 3,022

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by erictlewis

    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.

    What item can you get in the shop that you can't get in game?

     You know as well as I do, the power and heath regen pots that you cant craft.  Also some of the food items.  You been on the forums over in lotro to know this quite well.  There have been many threads about them.  Even gildor has posted his dislike of them. Can we talk tomes, I know they say they put them in istance'ss but during beta I never saw one drop.   Reputation mounts without you having to have the reputation to buy them. 

    Fluff I don't mind however  there have been testes on those pots and some folks think there even going to start revamping thing to where you need them to complete instance's (i hope not) but I seen that post as well.

     

  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    Originally posted by spyyder976

    it already has millions of players...

    I would really like to see a link to this information. Unlike the new found fans ,ive actually played the game and believe you are mistaken.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • erictlewiserictlewis Member UncommonPosts: 3,022

    Originally posted by Philby

    Originally posted by spyyder976

    it already has millions of players...

    I would really like to see a link to this information. Unlike the new found fans ,ive actually played the game and believe you are mistaken.

     I think hes refering to the 1.5 million in box sales back in 2007.  However they have nowhere near that playing.  The head counts I did showed about 5k online durring peak hours on brandywine. 

    No possibly ddo, but I don't believe those numbers.

  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    Originally posted by erictlewis

    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by spyyder976

    it already has millions of players...

    I would really like to see a link to this information. Unlike the new found fans ,ive actually played the game and believe you are mistaken.

     I think hes refering to the 1.5 million in box sales back in 2007.  However they have nowhere near that playing.  The head counts I did showed about 5k online durring peak hours on brandywine. 

    No possibly ddo, but I don't believe those numbers.

    I played on Landroval and I believe it is / was one of the higher populated servers along with Brandywine The population last month was nothing like it was in 2007 so perhaps that is what he meant.  

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,969

    Originally posted by erictlewis

    Originally posted by Sovrath


    Originally posted by erictlewis

    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.

    What item can you get in the shop that you can't get in game?

     You know as well as I do, the power and heath regen pots that you cant craft.  Also some of the food items.  You been on the forums over in lotro to know this quite well.  There have been many threads about them.  Even gildor has posted his dislike of them. Can we talk tomes, I know they say they put them in istance'ss but during beta I never saw one drop.   Reputation mounts without you having to have the reputation to buy them. 

    Fluff I don't mind however  there have been testes on those pots and some folks think there even going to start revamping thing to where you need them to complete instance's (i hope not) but I seen that post as well.

     

    That's true eric, I do lurk on the LOTRO boards.

    I haven't compared the stats for health and regen pots to the food items that one can craft but will look into it. However, there is food that let's you regen power and health. Is there one particular pot or turbine store item that is leagues above an in game food item? Or pot?

    The tomes have dropped and there has been mention on the beta forums about this. Also, apparently they don't bind so they can be sold on the Auction House.

    I'm just a bit skeptical about the claim that there are items that don't have some sort of in game equivalent. The tomes do drop so that isn't one of them.

    Now, if you are asking whether such pots should be for sale in the first place, I would say no. But with what is available in game as well as what one can buy with destiny points, I don't see the issue.

     

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  • TheUnknownMTheUnknownM Member UncommonPosts: 29

    Wen this is out we  can see more peoplethen in the beta XD

  • KyngBillsKyngBills Member UncommonPosts: 452

    Originally posted by Besttheiswow

    Without pvp server, world pvp flagged etc..i dont see f2f changing this game mutch.

    Right...cause that's what Folks want from LOTRO most of all....image

  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    LOTRO is a game that is a perfect setting for RP. They have, I believe, made the game more RP friendly along the way.  I do know that Landroval RP'ers make up a considerable amount of the playerbase on that server.  Rep items available in the cash shop are considered "fluff" items to many but when you consider the getting of the items, before the cash shop made them available, and what they meant to the lore it goes beyond "fluff" for the RP community. So to many, the so called fluff items could indeed have an effect on immersion and be game breaking to some of us.  When a fellow RP asks, where you aquired a certain item, such as a cloak or mount I dont see telling them "in the cash shop" as helping with immersion.  As to what the freebies will do to the Prancing Pony and Bree in general remains to be seen but there is no doubt in my mind that it will not be the hub for RP'ers that it has been for over three years.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607

    Originally posted by KyngBills

    Originally posted by Besttheiswow

    Without pvp server, world pvp flagged etc..i dont see f2f changing this game mutch.

    Right...cause that's what Folks want from LOTRO most of all....image

    Me too.  Why didn't Frodo just stab the old fart in the back and keep the ring for himself? 

  • KyngBillsKyngBills Member UncommonPosts: 452

    Originally posted by Philby

    Originally posted by Papadam


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by erictlewis

    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.

    +1

    Well atleast it seems like peoples concerns about the community getting worse with F2P was uncalled for.

    This is proof it will improve instead!

    If vets leaving is an improvment you should be quite happy with the community in 6 months or so.

    Right cause all Vets are leaving...

    Or maybe not...

    Don't over exaggerate...I don't have a single Vet leaving My Kin...Not one...2 are coming back with the F2P Launch...I'm not saying folks won't leave, but folks leave MMO's all the time for a million different reasons...It happens every day on every Game...There will be no Vet mass exodus on LOTRO...Ain't gonna happen...It's nothing more than the hope of drama queens...image

  • junzo316junzo316 Member UncommonPosts: 1,712

    Originally posted by KyngBills

    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by Papadam


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by erictlewis

    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.

    +1

    Well atleast it seems like peoples concerns about the community getting worse with F2P was uncalled for.

    This is proof it will improve instead!

    If vets leaving is an improvment you should be quite happy with the community in 6 months or so.

    Right cause all Vets are leaving...

    Or maybe not...

    Don't over exaggerate...I don't have a single Vet leaving My Kin...Not one...2 are coming back with the F2P Launch...I'm not saying folks won't leave, but folks leave MMO's all the time for a million different reasons...It happens every day on every Game...There will be no Vet mass exodus on LOTRO...Ain't gonna happen...It's nothing more than the hope of drama queens...image

    Yeah, I'm in one of the larger Kins on Brandywine and to my knowledge, there are no vets leaving.  We've had many people returning the last few months after the announcement was made.  So, a lot of the vets are staying put and a lot are returning, at least in my kin.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    Originally posted by Philby

    LOTRO is a game that is a perfect setting for RP. They have, I believe, made the game more RP friendly along the way.  I do know that Landroval RP'ers make up a considerable amount of the playerbase on that server.  Rep items available in the cash shop are considered "fluff" items to many but when you consider the getting of the items, before the cash shop made them available, and what they meant to the lore it goes beyond "fluff" for the RP community. So to many, the so called fluff items could indeed have an effect on immersion and be game breaking to some of us.  When a fellow RP asks, where you aquired a certain item, such as a cloak or mount I dont see telling them "in the cash shop" as helping with immersion.  As to what the freebies will do to the Prancing Pony and Bree in general remains to be seen but there is no doubt in my mind that it will not be the hub for RP'ers that it has been for over three years.

    So you were also up in arms about the skirmish system too?

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  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by Philby

    LOTRO is a game that is a perfect setting for RP. They have, I believe, made the game more RP friendly along the way.  I do know that Landroval RP'ers make up a considerable amount of the playerbase on that server.  Rep items available in the cash shop are considered "fluff" items to many but when you consider the getting of the items, before the cash shop made them available, and what they meant to the lore it goes beyond "fluff" for the RP community. So to many, the so called fluff items could indeed have an effect on immersion and be game breaking to some of us.  When a fellow RP asks, where you aquired a certain item, such as a cloak or mount I dont see telling them "in the cash shop" as helping with immersion.  As to what the freebies will do to the Prancing Pony and Bree in general remains to be seen but there is no doubt in my mind that it will not be the hub for RP'ers that it has been for over three years.

    So you were also up in arms about the skirmish system too?

    Oh the skirmish system they threw in to justify the half an xpac they released? No it didnt bother me. I did a few and didnt bother with them much after they were added.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    Originally posted by KyngBills

    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by Papadam


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by erictlewis

    They may be re-launching but I done with turbine.  Astalavista lotro. 

    You can keep your cash shops with advantage items you cant get in game.

    +1

    Well atleast it seems like peoples concerns about the community getting worse with F2P was uncalled for.

    This is proof it will improve instead!

    If vets leaving is an improvment you should be quite happy with the community in 6 months or so.

    Right cause all Vets are leaving...

    Or maybe not...

    Don't over exaggerate...I don't have a single Vet leaving My Kin...Not one...2 are coming back with the F2P Launch...I'm not saying folks won't leave, but folks leave MMO's all the time for a million different reasons...It happens every day on every Game...There will be no Vet mass exodus on LOTRO...Ain't gonna happen...It's nothing more than the hope of drama queens...image

    I know. We have all read the Turbine propaganda and seen people slobbering to get beta keys like its a new game. Ive heard how this will somehow bring new sub payers when free trials wouldnt. Ive heard how everyone that used to sub is coming back for F2P when the free comeback weekends couldnt do it. Ive also seen the drama queens, your words, scream rage quit and elitist when those of us who leave give our reasons. Why do you care? Ive given my reasons for leaving and my opinions as to what I think will happen and my thoughts on Turnines honesty.  My one sub will not make a dent in the millions of new subs and billions of dollars Turbine is going to make. Like one guy said, I did what people told me to do, "if you dont like it, quit", was said here and on the official forums. Some of us did, Turbine will never produce numbers as to how many but some of us quit but its not just me.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    Originally posted by Philby

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth


    Originally posted by Philby

    LOTRO is a game that is a perfect setting for RP. They have, I believe, made the game more RP friendly along the way.  I do know that Landroval RP'ers make up a considerable amount of the playerbase on that server.  Rep items available in the cash shop are considered "fluff" items to many but when you consider the getting of the items, before the cash shop made them available, and what they meant to the lore it goes beyond "fluff" for the RP community. So to many, the so called fluff items could indeed have an effect on immersion and be game breaking to some of us.  When a fellow RP asks, where you aquired a certain item, such as a cloak or mount I dont see telling them "in the cash shop" as helping with immersion.  As to what the freebies will do to the Prancing Pony and Bree in general remains to be seen but there is no doubt in my mind that it will not be the hub for RP'ers that it has been for over three years.

    So you were also up in arms about the skirmish system too?

    Oh the skirmish system they threw in to justify the half an xpac they released? No it didnt bother me. I did a few and didnt bother with them much after they were added.

    LMAO, your so upset. it was a 20$ expansion. Anyway, my point being, you can get rep items from skermish barter, also a few items only found on it.

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  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth


    Originally posted by Philby

    LOTRO is a game that is a perfect setting for RP. They have, I believe, made the game more RP friendly along the way.  I do know that Landroval RP'ers make up a considerable amount of the playerbase on that server.  Rep items available in the cash shop are considered "fluff" items to many but when you consider the getting of the items, before the cash shop made them available, and what they meant to the lore it goes beyond "fluff" for the RP community. So to many, the so called fluff items could indeed have an effect on immersion and be game breaking to some of us.  When a fellow RP asks, where you aquired a certain item, such as a cloak or mount I dont see telling them "in the cash shop" as helping with immersion.  As to what the freebies will do to the Prancing Pony and Bree in general remains to be seen but there is no doubt in my mind that it will not be the hub for RP'ers that it has been for over three years.

    So you were also up in arms about the skirmish system too?

    Oh the skirmish system they threw in to justify the half an xpac they released? No it didnt bother me. I did a few and didnt bother with them much after they were added.

    LMAO, your so upset. it was a 20$ expansion. Anyway, my point being, you can get rep items from skermish barter, also a few items only found on it.

    Getting rep items for game play would upset me how?  A $20 xpac that a year earlier would have been patched in for nothing.  I think those who are  upset are the ones that feel like they owe Turbine something for this model change. No content of any value for two years and going F2P is going to be so good for the game. Sorry, im not buying it, or paying so someone else doesnt have to.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

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