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Speculations and week(s) from Open Beta less than a month for Live [POLL]
mainvein33
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I have seen a lot of post over my time here from the doom and gloom of Jump/Swim to the K & M issues to the no AH crisis. Now after the "fatigue" system I have got to ask why is this such a big deal. The speculations are insane at this point. Open beta comes early next month (a week to 2 weeks at this point) and yet I see all these post all over again. Its not just the fatigue system its like every few days some bombshell hits that supposedly a game breaker. The worst part about it is most haven't even played the game yet. So bogged down with just word of mouth with no facts to support anything lately just seems insane to me.
Look, with just a lil while til open beta and a month from live doesn't it make sense to just go get the client and try it out at this point. I am not gonna hand you the line of BS that this game will be so awesome (how the hell does anybody know that?), But I can say that it seems dumb to me dislike something before you even try especially when your about to get to try it for free. We are so close to release that all these bs rumors flying around make no sense in a week or so you can try it yourself and formulate your own point of view with out second hand knowledge or bad translations.
Here's a poll for yah
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BTW answers 3 and 4 are strictly sarcastic.
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They don't even have to tell me the time. All i hear is "We are punishing you for playing our game". That is so dumb....I can't even express it in words. It just shows the massive disconnect SE has with gamers. Also this thread will be locked to be discussed somewhere else.
I don't think you read my post I dont care about fatigue what I am saying is up til now we see a problem of the week type post every week and it just seems insane to me. your response is an example it shoot right for this weeks problem ignoring that we have open beta right around the corner. If the mods choose to lock this thread I cant help that but past all the bs will we ever just get down to " I played in open beta and this is what I think."
Fatigue was a part of the speculation. You asked if I would play open beta with the speculations. My answer is NO, due to that specific speculation. Especially now that this supposed "rampant rumor" was confirmed.
Looks like we know who put in the vote of I hate FF already huh.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I can say that I can form an opinion since I have been in it since alpha testing. As far as an opinion the only thing I will say is that I feel allot of people will be disappointed. But thats just my opinion.
I can see that happening I havent been in beta yet but from what I have seen it stills looks interesting. However, compared to GW2 which keeps providing good more of what I want to hear FFXIV is a lil luke warm. Until Open Beta I do not know how things will go.
Do you think expectations were too high to start with? What I mean is did we have such hopes that they couldn't live up to it or constrained the release time so much they simply wouldn't live up to it?
Actually I voted for the second. I just said no. I actually loved FFXI. And played it for a very long time. I love the final fantasy series. But to slap gamers in the face like this....They are abandoning their core playerbase, abandoning gamers in general.
Who really thinks this fatigue system is a good idea. Hte only people who could like this play games so little you might not even be able to call them gamers.
This forum REALLY needs some moderation before the stupid overflows into the rest of the universe, and annihilates it.
I actually gave away my BETA key on this game this time. It has been my experience that there are truely only two ways to destroy a new game for your, one is to BETA test it, and the second is to talk about it on internet forums. Well the latter will actually kill the game WHILE your playing it.
I hear all the hype and the negativety, but I really do like to wait to see it for myself to form an opinion. And not see it in the half finished, still being worked on BETA mode too. That just eats the luster off any polish a game can give you on first impressions.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I think the thing that struck hardest at me was after playing in the FF14 beta, I decided to give the Warhammer endless trial a little run just to pass time for a couple weeks. And immediately I realized that the UI in FF14 is just ridiculously unacceptable. It's not just because of Warhammer, but I suddently remembered that in EVERY MMO i have played the last 6-7 years, the UI was at the very least fast, if not also intuitive. I mean, the UI is how a player interacts with the game, and its THIS bad this late into beta? That scares me more than a lot of things.
No AH, no PvP - at all, slooooow UI, and the fact that due to no jumping its hard to discern what you can or cant run/walk over. I dont know how many times I could walk down a cliff that seemed too steep, but other times an inch-long drop was there and I couldnt get past. Just seems like a silly annoyance.
Fatigue Fatifue Fatigue. Come on already just before this it was all about the controls and before that the infamous JUMP/Swim. I get it it pisses you off but there are numerous locked post about it and this really ins't one of em (plz read the OP). Rather than the specific Bomb if the week its the fact that there is always a bomb of the week. the guy who played from Alpha if he hates it or loves it I get that HE PLAYED THE GAME. But every1 else is just eating up second hand informations with out ever playing so there is no sense to it at all. The open beta is free ie its a free trial why form your deal break opinion before you put your hands on the game?
The no AH seems bad to me too but the no PvP isnt that big a deal to me (GW2 kinda has all my hopes for pvp) The UI issues I agree are unacceptable. As far as the jumping goes as long as the world is smooth and built for toons that dont jump I think its fine. But since your running into issues I would fingure that they would need to fix it asap. If they dont its a effin shame. None the less those are all good reasons to have worries.
I think a little of both. I think the fan base hyped it big time. Who wouldnt being a Final Fantasy game set in an mmo game. I feel the content is not there. At least not now. But then again they could be holding allot back until open beta and release. As I have said in another post the developers were not and still not very interactive with its testers in game or on the beta forums, which is odd and has not been my experience in the many betas I have tested. As I see it, if they dont pull a rabbit out of the hat or dont have something hidden the the magic chest people may be disappointed. I do hope they gave me the wrong impression and it does really well for its fans.
Im still hoping this turns out, but I need to play a bit more before I order. Its not any of the normal complaints but so far a lot of the gameplay seems really simple compared to other mmo's Ive played. Fishing is hard but its not complicated, just mostly luck based. Crafting seems simple. Hard to explain here, but once you get it its too simple. Ive played caster and ranger so far and its really a one button game - so far. Now Ill admit that I havent played above level 5 adventuring or above level 2 crafting. 5 I think fishing as well. Im going to try to focus more on leveling in open beta to see if the game gets any richer. So far though unless it does this game gets a pass.
well the hype to me is the killer almost always you get your hopes up and boom its nto what you expected. Honestly I dont have moy hopes up for this title. what I mean by that is I have seen it and while it looks better than most its seems like a melting pot of ideas that might take time to sort out.
This can be best seen in content I think because of the way mmos are nowadays end game content gets much hype and people for get that most games have nearly zero end game at release(this isnt an arguement for the game or against it just what is). This being FF content might be more important than many factors unlike other mmos. If this games lacks content I fear for it above the other factors.
As far as developer involvement. i am not sure where you posted but generally asian developers look to asian forums or like many developers don't look at all. feed back for western players is rare and often useless.
Speculation? What? I was in beta. It's not speculation.
Its Speculation why? Because you beta guy dont post enough the ones that do usually go "its great" or "It sucks" and leave it at that. If your not in beta its guess work and its a pain. I have no clue about you but most use beta as a free demo the ones that get back to the dev alot fo the time dont get back to us and the ones that rip the game a new one cant find voice here because lets face it the forum insta flames. Your post in the other thread sums it up plz post it 2 weeks in the past with big letters that gets every1 to read it and they will love you.
All I can say is I will wait but if its anything like CB3 I will most certainly cancel my preorder. And I'm not one of those joining the whining about surplus paddy wagen, I dislike it for many reasons. I have recently posted a thread regarding the leves, I was not terribly impressed by those. There are certain things I did like in the game but when it comes to leveling, to say I got bored and ran out of things to do within 4-6 hours, I think thats just appauling. Granted some say "well you just have too much time on your hands" but games were made to be played as long as a gamer wishes providing it can cater for those hours. I have never in my life time played a game that could not cater a dozen hours per day, not even offline RPGs, hell some of those can last over 100 hours! and the beauty is not one of them have such harsh restrictions. I don't know what SE are thinking but I can say I am not impressed by their leveling systems so far.
there is no Ah at RELEASe there WILL be one tho
lol did none of you play ff11? 14 is 11s mmo successor, suposedly all the good none of the bad and maybe some new shiney good bits to boot. if you dont wanna play it, guess what, you dont have to! its a free world! well if you make it one anyway, i guess some of thsoe countries are pretty bad, mainly the communist dictatorships that enslave the populace, but its their own fault for not revolting and killing the dictators!
Very Few of the post say that they arent going to play most just say they will wait til OB. If you read my former post I am not bitching and this is an actual discussion something we missed round here for a good while.I have said this repeatedly No one knows if this will be a hit successor or not as speculation become fact some issues are just too hard to ignore never the less OB is basically a free trial and might aswell form your opinions there. As far as successful successors (c what I did there) go um its not the best list in MMOs LIneage->Lineage 2 (not so great) Everquest ->Everquest 2 (did not meet expectations). Its not the rule or anything its just sequel done not equal successful. I hope FFXIV is a hit too, however I reserve my zeal for after OB.
I got to agree with you. I don't want to try another game in Beta, open or closed and a lot of the things said in forms often just gets you down and makes you want to move on to yet another game. Even before you have tested it.
I've ordered FFXIV, once it's out I will give it a go and try it for a few months. If it's not no good, I'll just move on to the next.
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Played: FFXIV, WAR, Allods, Aion, AoC, DDO, EQ2, GW, Lotro, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WoW
I am trying very hard to keep an open mind about FF14 but I just have such a dark outlook from this whole thing. I am hoping to try 14 in the open beta next month. I am not sure if the "open" part will be for SE to just open the gates and let anyone and everyone grab the game download or if the open means the gag order will be lifted but the testers will still be by invite only. It's just so out of character for SE to do that. I played FF11 from the release and I seem to remember although it has been a long time, they announced a final open beta test but it never happened.
If the pre order is set to ship and be on shelves Sept 22 and this open beta is to happen beginning of Sept, that doesn't give the dev's much time to adjust anything before the game has to go into production. I had a cousin who worked for Capcom some years ago and I remember him telling horror stories about the dev's only giving production a month to get a game out.
If this open beta happens then they aren't giving more than a few weeks a best. I know they have already made the packaging, I saw the picture of the pre order boxes being printed somewhere on line.
SE has investors and those people want to see a return on their money. For that to happen, SE has to hit a certain release day sales projection. It would be kind of silly for SE to actually go through with an "open beta" just 3 weeks before the game is set to hit because of that, especially with the rumor mill grinding away now. They would rather we buy the game to find out if we like it or not and once we made the up front game purchase, feel we should give it a few months to play which equals some monthly subscription money.
I have to say one thing that came out of the issue, I have realized that there are a whole lot of well informed, intelligent, passionate gamers still out there and that has made me smile.
I'll be with FFXIV for the long haul. I'm willing to give SE the benefit of the doubt, although I'm not expecting miracles.
I'm trying to imagine what the FFXI JP launch was like. It was first released to the western audience 15 months later (27 for the EU...) and I bet it was FAR from perfectly balanced / polished.
I still have my fair share of concerns about the game (after playing beta), but its still too early tell what the future holds. I have faith that SE will put things right in the end.