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Anyone else done with the MMORPG genre ?
Lexe01
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Ever since I got broadband I've been a fan of the MMORPG genre. I started with Legend Of Mir (which I played more than most newer MMOs), Runescape, Dark Age Of Camelot, and all the major MMO's after that.
Everyone knows the MMO market is going downhill fast, if not crashing completely. Personally I think the F2P model is destroying the genre alltogether, it's turning dedicated players into casual players which poisons the very core of the MMORPG gamestyle.
Over a period of months of not years I've drifted from one MMO to the next (mostly F2P), but nothing could get me hooked like the early MMO's (which are now as old as dinosaurs in computeryears), Question is, is it worth getting into at this time, years after release?
Basically I gave up on it and I find myself to have way more fun in the upcoming co-op shooter genre (L4D2, Worms reloaded,...).
Has anyone else been through these hoops ?
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Yeah, it worth. Now i'm playing runescape and dragon's call
*dragon's call*
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I am done with the genre, as I can no longer justify monthly payments for a MMO. I've had my fair share of fun playing these types of games, but most have become redundant due to having no player-driver content.
Honestly, I'm going to hold off in the genre until server and data transfer technology reach a point where a high volume of players can modify the game world in real time.
Developers need to get back to making co-op RPGs and get off this MMO bandwagon that has one dead horse.
Oddly enough, I found runescape more enjoyable when it was in it's early days using bad graphics and good gameplay, now they are using their 3rd engine, the graphics have improved, but they lost alot of hardcore players due to changes to gamemechanics and basics.
MMO is a substitute for me, until d3 comes out (with PK option of course). I am done then, no matter how good GW2 is.
And dude, get a life. most of us already did. thats why we play f2p now, cause we cant spend that much time on computer games. I lmao ed people who were fooled by Blizzard that 15$ is necessary price for server maintenance
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No I am not done with MMO's but I am very very picky about what I buy and subscribe to. I am not a young wiper snapper who can beg the folks into getting all the new games. I am "the folks" :-) I don't think MMO's are really on their way out. Through the years there have been many peaks and valleys in the amount of MMO games offered. MMO's take a lot more payroll money just to keep us hooked. Single player PC or console games are done when they go to production. Their might be a "version 2" if the market is there however.
If I said I even played a MUDD game in college, would I be dating myself? Those of us who played EQ and all that followed have grown up and our tastes have refined so we are very selective. Many come and many go, only the good ones, unique or ones that somehow grab us will always be here.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Who is this everyone? I don't agree with this statement at all. Matter of fact, I think the MMORPG genre is about to have the doors blasted open with titles like FFXIV, GW2, SWTOR and Rift about to descend upon us. They are offering to me what I've been craving but haven't been getting since WoW launched, which is understandable. Quality games take a good 5+ years to develop, and that's about how long it's been since, IMHO, the last "good" MMO launched.
Perhaps you are just tainted by your nostalgia of how the games you played before were. It's ok, many people are afraid of change. You can change too. Adapt, go with the flow and you will be surprised at yourself.
It all really boils down to "Perception".
I feel where you're coming from. I'll buy Cataclysm (though I have zero excitement about it), explore the new areas, then I'm done until Guild Wars 2 releases. If that doesn't pan out, I'll just stop playing. I've hoped for years that someone would create a game that kept me engaged like pre-NGE Star Wars Galaxies, but that ship has sailed and sunk. Games just aren't made for people like me anymore.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
I think I am giving up on this genre...besides I have been so pre-occupied lately with real life things that I haven't had that much time to play at all. I only sign into WoW when I know one or more of my friends are on and that is like maybe once a week - if that. In EVE I am getting tired of waiting for Incarna and for CCP to fix some seriously glaring issues that need addressed - someday - and to be honest someday is not fast enough. So...yeah...I think in the end this genre is about played out. It was a fun run though. As a gamer I do not regret the time I spent playing and I have made lots of friends. Good times.
I'm gonna have to call out this statement too. How do you know this? How does "everyone" know this? This is two fallacies rolled into one (ad populum and begging the question).
Anyway, I personally am not 'done' with the genre - especially with several titles coming up that I find exciting (particularly GW2).
I personally never experienced the draw that many mmo vets seem to have with the older games. I sometimes wish old SWG would have been around longer, but I had my fun with the games of the older generations and I'm ready to move on to something novel - yet still within the genre.
I'm not done with the genre, I'm still having a lot of fun playing the games currently out. I don't think the genre is dying, I think the population just got spread out between too many games.
Nothing out there right now is all that appealing to me but thankfully there are a couple of good looking ones coming up and there is always stuff in the pipe that we haven't even heard of yet.
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Not that Blizzard isn't raking in the bucks at $15 / mo subscriptions, but most F2P players actually spend more than $15 / mo in micro-transactions. Why do you think most MMO games are heading this way (either going to F2P or seriously considering it)? They aren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.
Where most people balk at the $15 / mo subscription model, many of those same people rarely have any concerns about spending $5 a week in microtransactions. Does this really happen? In the business world, the virtual-good market (basically micro-transactions) is expected to be a $7 billion industry within the next 5 years...and currently accounts for more than 25% of the revenue in the MMO market in the US (which is much less than European and Asian markets).
If you are playing the F2P games, and don't buy the extras, good for you. However, most people playing the F2P are actually paying more than they would have under the subscription model...
No doubt, there's been some lean times as of late and if not for EVE I'd probably be in the same boat as the OP.
But there is a slew of new games coming out in the next year or so and at least one of them is bound to not suck right?
Right?
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@OP: No, I'm not done with the MMO genre. I still have Guild Wars 2 and Warhammer 40k: Dark Millennium to look forward to. Besides, MMORPGs are all gaming has going for it anymore. Regular video games died a loooooooong time ago, paying $60+ for a game that lasts maybe four hours is just hilarious. Nobody knows how to make a proper video game anymore. Nobody. The games out nowadays are just trying to be MMORPGs by releasing the game in a half-ready stage, then releasing downloadable content (subscription fee, basically) thereafter.
I hope Arenanet is able to create a new Messiah with Guildwars 2, plus I hope Trion is able to design a MMORTS with End of Nations ahead of its time, like Planetside was to MMOFPS.
Feel bad for you, theres so many good non mmo games out, and so very few mmos worth any kind of monthly fee.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
I've always said that as long as I'm enjoying myself, I have no issue paying for the game/service. I simply cannot play single player games any longer. I just feel like, what's the point? It can be enjoyable, but without friends to enjoy it with or people to show off you new items and whatnot, it's just not as fun to me.
I will be playing mmo's as long as I'm pc gaming and hopefully for the consoles..... as soon as they make a descent one...lol
No but really, really bored. I have high hope for GW 2 and if that one fail i'd probably be done. I was excited about SW : ToR but the more i read about it the less i'm interested, so this is pretty much all about GW 2 for me.
I don't disagree with you here really, Elocke, but even your statement doesn't negate the OP's quote at least in the sense that the genrea, as a whole, has been in decline for some time, at least from a player's standpoint.
The reality is that the releases you mention will really tell the tale of how things will shape up for the future. The doors are indeed going to be "blasted open" at that point, and we'll either see more ugly (in the vein of AoC, Warhammer, Vanguard, etc.) or it'll be a boon to the industry. I mean, to see the hype surrounding a game like SW:TOR and its $150m~ price tag, watching it fail would be a hard pill to swallow for further investment into the genre. On the other hand, seeing GW2 truly bring something evolutionary to the table might inspire more improvements into future releases, so we'll see! It'll be exciting to watch either way. At least, more so than APB...
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If everyone knew this then pretty much most everyone wouldn't be playing.
What is happening is that the genre is taking a turn that isn't very welcome from a certain demographic.
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I was just generally speaking. There are several games still worth getting and I plan on getting a few, but the damage done by casuals to the gaming industry has proven quite irreversible. It's just a matter of time. MMORPGs are the only thing I look forward to anymore.
I am not done with the genre yet, I always take a break and play other non mmo games like L4D, MW2, DA:O as not to burn myself out.
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Which is really funny cause if "casuals" have "damaged" any genre out there its mmos most of all.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
This^
Once you have played an MMO, a single player game just does not cut it, at least that's my experience. The thing is there are so many mmo's that choosing any one of them that is not quality is basically a let down. It used to be enough to be playing mmo but that is no longer the case.
I also agree with other posters, the only MMO I feel excited by is GW2. Maybe my standards are to only accept an MMO above 8.50 in hype rating??
I would really like for a few MMO's to do well such as GW2, SWTOR, Tera, Rift etc and then see the next cycle of MMO's start experimenting with the remaining niche of MMO players looking for SANDBOX style games and closer-knit communities. That would be some gaming that I would not just not regret, but actively build some great memories.
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