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Is this game like Vanguard?
Herodes
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Well... whatever you people do make out of the title:
Despite Vanguards release it is a very good PvE game. The freedom, world, the crafting, horizontal content, many races, many interesting classes.
For those people who acknowledged both games: are there many similarities?
Ok, as Vanguard did, SE seemed to be stupid enough to set the Graphics bar too high, but what about the rest?
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No, it is not like Vanguard. And if you mean by "set the graphics bar too high" mean poorly coded like Vanguard, no it's not like Vanguard.
You mean, problems that haven't been a problem for years now?
Vanguard is probably the best PvE game on the market right now, guess XIV just isn't good enough.
We can only hope no game will be like Vanguard ever again. Gives me chills just thinking about the money that should be in my pocket right now instead of in the hands of some developer or coder that had no clue.
I'm curious about the same thing and waiting on an actual answer.
Your post has no thought process.. what does Vanguard being the best have to do with XIV not being good enough. *rolls eyes*
I've played both and can tell you there is really nothing these two have in common. PvE is good in both but FFXIV will probably be better in that it will have a more solid community, more stable with still beautiful graphics, and have a more focused story to follow than both Vanguard and FFXI.
Add plus - FFXIV will also likely have more than one active developer.
Biggest difference is Story. VG doesn't have one. FF is all about story.
In other words, shit talking vanguard is useless, either answer the question or go look at another post.
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Yes, it's like Vanguard.
It cost a lot of money to make.
It took years to make.
It had great scenery and art.
It requires a pretty good rig to run on.
It is a focused PvE group-based game first. Period.
It is well advertised.
It was made by people who helped make a great MMO before this one.
It has a very big in-game world.
It has a lot of PvP minded people lining up to say it will fail before it was launched.
It will have an extensive crafting base where player-made gear and weapons mostly determines the economy.
So yeah, in many ways it's just like Vanguard. Just not in EVERY way.
"TO MICHAEL!"
I dont know. FF isnt out yet, so I cant compare. I wasnt in any of the testing phases either.
*adding another useless post
Gaming since Avalon Hill was making board games.
Played SWG, EVE, Fallen Earth, LOTRO, Rift, Vanguard, WoW, SWTOR, TSW, Tera
Tried Aoc, Aion, EQII, RoM, Vindictus, Darkfail, DDO, GW, PotBS
VG does have a story actually. It's just subtle. Its not shoved in your face or linear like most other games. You uncover the history of the world much the same way you would in real life.
Basically you just did a big long seperated list that didn't show that the games are really even the least bit alike.
You go to school? sounds awfully boring for a videogame.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Gathering info on Vanguard may help in correctly answering the OP
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287896/What-are-some-of-the-things-you-love-most-about-this-game.html
There isn't a single thread on this site where people don't bicker, whine and scold each other like spoiled brats.
Sure they were and you proved that, lol.
You admitted in your post that there was a "meaningful comparison" in the list so that is the LEAST right? One? Contradict much?
In case you missed what you agreed with in the LEAST:
If you chose to nitpick about the other similarities that is your choice. But those things were pretty much the same in both, regardless if they happened to be in other MMOs.. or cars.
Cars are not MMOs. He's not asking how FFXIV is to a Ford.
Bringing other mmos into it like SWTOR only shows that MMOS are pretty much alike.. which is what he was asking in the first place. I think it took you a whole post to figure out that was what I was pointing out.
"TO MICHAEL!"
lol and i bet you'll get flamed for saying that.
Biggest difference is Story. VG doesn't have one. FF is all about story.
VG does have a story actually. It's just subtle. Its not shoved in your face or linear like most other games. You uncover the history of the world much the same way you would in real life.
Perhaps you are mistaking background lore for story. Many people do that. They claim EQ2 and EQ have story and tout exactly what you just stated.
History is not "current" story. FF has a "current" story, VG does not. FF's story is one of it's defining elements, therefore, FFXIV is NOT like VG.
FFXIV is nothin like vanguard, it has some similarities , but imo ffxiv is introduccing a lot of new stuf no mmo have up to now.
And is why all the hate just keps coming.Becouse is diferent.Take a look a GW2 50min gameplay video,( just to put a random example) while it does look good to me, it looks like a solo pvp game, very similar to Dragon age , with more fluid combat, less customisation..Terra got frogster on the devs team now, and frogster means cash shops, and cash shops mean ,,,, well that.
SWTOR, another solo pvp game, altought if ffxiv would disapoint me this would be my next try .Um what other pve group focused game is coming ? None i think.
randomly talking my mind out.
There is no need for a VG vs FF, since the Developer support for Vanguard came to a halt. I wouldn´t care much if Lotro or Everquest 2 come to a stop.
But for me this kind of game is a loss for the MMO-community. So I hoped, Square Enix got ther sh whatever... the ideas are there.
Vanguard is the only good MMO out, IMNSHO.
I loved FFXI, played it for 2.5 years. When I quit playing FFXI I tried a few different MMOs but the only one that appealed to me in the same manner as FFXI was VG. I can't comment on FFXIV and VG but I think FFXI and VG had lots of similarities especially in the areas of group play, world immersion, and overall feel of the game. Of course, there were lots of differences too. Depends on which areas you focus on really.
I'll try and give you an honest answer.
I played FFXI from NA release until Vanguard came out, I then played Vanguard until early this year. What I look for in an MMO is PvE with a cooperative focus and some complexity in the game mechanics.
What I love specifically about Vanguard:
The world art, lore (many of the big questlines), APW, the deep class system.
I feel that FFXIV improves upon most of these things that I enjoyed about Vanguard.
The world art- The Vision may have been brilliant in Vanguard, but it was never really finished. Empty dungeons, abruptly ending quests (which never finish their storylines) are not something you will see so often in a Square Enix game. I loved the direction of Vanguard, but I was very dissapointed that the game was never given the proper treatment. Watching the dev interviews from FFXIV you can see how seriously they take the project, they are also not a game company which caves to much and can fund this MMO with no problem.
Lore- In FFXIV, like FFXI you will have well put together cut scenes emphasising the importance of story events probably one of Square Enix's biggest strongpoints. There is already quite an in depth system with dieties, background, in short a whole world built for FFXIV so like Vanguard it is clear this is a huge focus for them, the difference is that you will come into contact with the lore/story much more often and more directly than you did in Vanguard.
The classes- I loved Vanguard's classes, and I think if you haven't taken a look at the Armory system in FFXIV you might find that it too offers a lot of different playstyles, and different playstyles within the archetypes which is something Vanguard did so well. In the end I find the way that FFXIV handles abilities, stat choices, and even their combat offer even more variety than you found in Vanguard in terms of playstyles.
The biggest similiarity to Vanguard though is the fact that they are both PvE focused, which is extremely rare these days. If you like Vanguard for the PvE I think it is at least worth giving this game an honest shot including attempting to get around its quirks and differences from Vanguard. It isn't often this type of MMO player is catered to by such major and stable development studios, not lately at least.
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Biggest difference is Story. VG doesn't have one. FF is all about story.
VG does have a story actually. It's just subtle. Its not shoved in your face or linear like most other games. You uncover the history of the world much the same way you would in real life.
umm...I am guessing that SOE patched in a schools system then :;