Heh Guess Im lucky I get steady 60 fps with Tri Monitor~
I use 3 ATI 5870 but this game doesnt support crossfire yet >>
So running off one card on 5760x1200~
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 4.6GHz
12288MB RAM
You get a steady 60 frames even in populated areas, on 3 monitors? You've got a crazy nice system, but given that SLI isn't supported yet, I don't know how in the hell you're pulling that off.
That's what really baffles me about the performance issues amongst people - there doesn't really seem to be any consistency. Some say that it runs fantastic (even those that have comparable systems to my own) and others say that it runs like total crap; which is certainly my case.
It's really confusing.
I have to wonder if maybe latency is playing a bigger part in these performance issues than we realize.
Everywhere I am reading is pretty much saying the same thing. I find it funny that no matter what I tweak my FPS still same within a general area that it makes little difference. I notice my CPU is less strained thats for sure, but FPS is saying somethign different. Whats also funny is between a handful of settings my game doesn't slow down or lock up. The onmly time it does is when I turn on Ambient Occlusion, and thats on every setting.
So I am pretty much out of options to tweak it to a point fraps runs good, so I will go back to my previous setting and just deal with it til the end of beta.
off-the-topic, what is the program that you using to monitor CPU usage? please
Hey, I get asked that a lot. Its just a general gadget you download for Windows 7. Its nothing special I just fire it up from time to time to check different stats.
Hey, I get asked that a lot. Its just a general gadget you download for Windows 7. Its nothing special I just fire it up from time to time to check different stats.
the main thing you all need to remember, the games coming out on the ps3, thats 5 year old gameing gear video and cpu wise that costs 300 bucks. its no super computer, but just a consistent good setup that has a predefined set of parameters it can meet. games have issues on pcs when theyre coming out until the gave devs/hardware driver people get the various combinations running and optimize for all possible cpu/gpu/memory setups. this takes time, usually a few weeks after lauch for nvidia, sometimes they never do it with catalyst, sorry ati fan bois but your driver support sux, while im not an avid fan of all nvidia products they win with me due to their decent driver support, you just gotta make sure you dont buy any of their junk models (like the entire 9 series, the mid range 7's, ect ect).
Just curious, how do some of you more tech-savvy members think my 3.5 year-old machine would run it (I think I got a little over 2500 my first benchmark run on low)?
C2d 6600 2.4 ghz
2 gb RAM
8800GTS 640mb
MSI i7 mobo
Windows XP
I'm thinking of upgrading the ram to 4gb, just to get me into next year when I'll be ready to buy a new comp and/or get FFXIV on PS3. Thanks.
Heh Guess Im lucky I get steady 60 fps with Tri Monitor~
I use 3 ATI 5870 but this game doesnt support crossfire yet >>
So running off one card on 5760x1200~
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 4.6GHz
12288MB RAM
You get a steady 60 frames even in populated areas, on 3 monitors? You've got a crazy nice system, but given that SLI isn't supported yet, I don't know how in the hell you're pulling that off.
That's what really baffles me about the performance issues amongst people - there doesn't really seem to be any consistency. Some say that it runs fantastic (even those that have comparable systems to my own) and others say that it runs like total crap; which is certainly my case.
It's really confusing.
I have to wonder if maybe latency is playing a bigger part in these performance issues than we realize.
Everywhere I am reading is pretty much saying the same thing. I find it funny that no matter what I tweak my FPS still same within a general area that it makes little difference. I notice my CPU is less strained thats for sure, but FPS is saying somethign different. Whats also funny is between a handful of settings my game doesn't slow down or lock up. The onmly time it does is when I turn on Ambient Occlusion, and thats on every setting.
So I am pretty much out of options to tweak it to a point fraps runs good, so I will go back to my previous setting and just deal with it til the end of beta.
I think you might be right about that. I've also been noticing that people using ATI cards don't seem to deal with same proportion of performance issues. In fact, I talked to a guy the other day who claimed he was reaching frames of 113 even amidst a huge crowd. I find that pretty hard to believe, but he had a pretty powerful rig with a couple of top-notch ATI cards.
I just hope the neorandom is right and that our poor performances is mainly due to compatibility issues with the current Nvidia drivers. If that's truly the case, and updated drivers with FFXIV support will clear most of this up, I'll most likely still be on board.
Here's hoping something like that happens before OB is over so we can test it before we spend 50-80 bucks.
Dual XFX Radeon 5870s (does not support Crossfire)
8 gigs of RAM
Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
With all the settings turned up, I'm lucky to break 30 FPS, usually hovering between 14-24. Seeing as I built this computer for games like this, I'm very disappointed in the performance I'm getting out of it.
Dual XFX Radeon 5870s (does not support Crossfire)
8 gigs of RAM
Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
With all the settings turned up, I'm lucky to break 30 FPS, usually hovering between 14-24. Seeing as I built this computer for games like this, I'm very disappointed in the performance I'm getting out of it.
Hmm, well in that case, I guess it isn't exclusively a Nvidia issue. One question though - do you have ambient occlusion enabled? That seems to cause the hugest performance drop of any option. Try turning that off and see how it runs.
In any case, your rig is a nice amount more powerful than mine yet it has very comparable performance, so I can understand your frustration. Something's definitely not right.
Dual XFX Radeon 5870s (does not support Crossfire)
8 gigs of RAM
Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
With all the settings turned up, I'm lucky to break 30 FPS, usually hovering between 14-24. Seeing as I built this computer for games like this, I'm very disappointed in the performance I'm getting out of it.
Hmm, well in that case, I guess it isn't exclusively a Nvidia issue. One question though - do you have ambient occlusion enabled? That seems to cause the hugest performance drop of any option. Try turning that off and see how it runs.
In any case, your rig is a nice amount more powerful than mine yet it has very comparable performance, so I can understand your frustration. Something's definitely not right.
At first, but I disabled it. It didn't seem to really do much for improving my framerate.
My issues could be related to my computer as I seem to underperform in other games as well, but I really have no idea what the cause would be.
dont forget if shadows and AA can lower your fps alot when they on. im getting 14-20 fps on full settings but for the aa and shadow and im happy i have no real lag spikes or anything on the server im on. im ony using a geforce 275 and 8gigs pf ram. most of u guys have got locked into the need more fps thing when it realy dont help u as much as u think it will. for me above 20fps i cant tell any real diffence in anything. that probaly varies person to person but i know one thing. at 60 fps u wont beable to tell any difernce thatn at 40fps unles u got like 5/5 vision or something.
Just curious, how do some of you more tech-savvy members think my 3.5 year-old machine would run it (I think I got a little over 2500 my first benchmark run on low)?
C2d 6600 2.4 ghz
2 gb RAM
8800GTS 640mb
MSI i7 mobo
Windows XP
I'm thinking of upgrading the ram to 4gb, just to get me into next year when I'll be ready to buy a new comp and/or get FFXIV on PS3. Thanks.
It's going to be choppy, and you'll need resolution at like 1280x1024, but it will run if you upgrade to 4g ram. Game takes well over 2g to run smoothly.
I'm running on a Q9450 @ 3.6ghz, 8GB Ram, and 5850 crossfire.
I actually gained 5-10fps when I turned off crossfire lol. Everything feels smoother too,
Settings:
Resoultion 1920x1200
AA: x4
Shadows: High
Textures: Highest
That's because sli/crossfire are not supported currently. Running them will only decrease performance, and some will even experience memory leak until there's not enough to run the game and CRASH.
@Superzero: If you are not happy with specs like that then something is wrong. You are either missing a driver, have outdated drivers, or have really messed something up in the configs. Did you do any bios tweaking, have you configured your gaming settings in the control panel for the card, is it configured but accidentally set to run application settings? A number of things could be affecting your PC, but hardware alone does not guarantee a godly PC. I'd recommend using CS:S or L4D2 as a benchmark and play with all the settings you can until you figure out the issue. Also, go back and reinstall all your drivers or even do a full system clean if it's been longer than a year, as a clean HD will increase performance too.
dont forget if shadows and AA can lower your fps alot when they on. im getting 14-20 fps on full settings but for the aa and shadow and im happy i have no real lag spikes or anything on the server im on. im ony using a geforce 275 and 8gigs pf ram. most of u guys have got locked into the need more fps thing when it realy dont help u as much as u think it will. for me above 20fps i cant tell any real diffence in anything. that probaly varies person to person but i know one thing. at 60 fps u wont beable to tell any difernce thatn at 40fps unles u got like 5/5 vision or something.
A consistent 40fps would be fine with me (although I can tell a noticeable difference between 40-60). But trying to play a game enjoyably at 15-20 fps is pretty much impossible for me, and I'd assume many others.
The point many of us are making is that it shouldn't be running this badly on most of our systems, at least when they're up to the supposed standards of the game. The optimization seems to need some serious work.
I'm running on a Q9450 @ 3.6ghz, 8GB Ram, and 5850 crossfire. I actually gained 5-10fps when I turned off crossfire lol. Everything feels smoother too, Settings: Resoultion 1920x1200 AA: x4 Shadows: High Textures: Highest
That's because sli/crossfire are not supported currently. Running them will only decrease performance, and some will even experience memory leak until there's not enough to run the game and CRASH.
@Superzero: If you are not happy with specs like that then something is wrong. You are either missing a driver, have outdated drivers, or have really messed something up in the configs. Did you do any bios tweaking, have you configured your gaming settings in the control panel for the card, is it configured but accidentally set to run application settings? A number of things could be affecting your PC, but hardware alone does not guarantee a godly PC. I'd recommend using CS:S or L4D2 as a benchmark and play with all the settings you can until you figure out the issue. Also, go back and reinstall all your drivers or even do a full system clean if it's been longer than a year, as a clean HD will increase performance too.
Are you serious? I heard that Crossfire/SLI were not supported in the benchmark program because they were running in windowed mode. So does that mean running the game in full-screen mode will not utilize crossfire/SLI?
dont forget if shadows and AA can lower your fps alot when they on. im getting 14-20 fps on full settings but for the aa and shadow and im happy i have no real lag spikes or anything on the server im on. im ony using a geforce 275 and 8gigs pf ram. most of u guys have got locked into the need more fps thing when it realy dont help u as much as u think it will. for me above 20fps i cant tell any real diffence in anything. that probaly varies person to person but i know one thing. at 60 fps u wont beable to tell any difernce thatn at 40fps unles u got like 5/5 vision or something.
A consistent 40fps would be fine with me (although I can tell a noticeable difference between 40-60). But trying to play a game enjoyably at 15-20 fps is pretty much impossible for me, and I'd assume many others.
The point many of us are making is that it shouldn't be running this badly on most of our systems, at least when they're up to the supposed standards of the game. The optimization seems to need some serious work.
no game comes out full optomized.do u enjoy teh game?is it lagging or u just got low fps?are u doing the weekly maintence on your computer that a gaming pc requirest?
like lot of other people stated fps probaly go up when the gpu manufactures put out a new driver and when square patches the engine some. been the same with any mmo ive ever played. by 4 months after launch u probaly be getting your 40+ fps and even then u wont notice the difffernce(cant find the article i read about how many fps the eye can process ma it was in 30s i remember thou).
be happy with what u got and stop wanting more of useless things imo. open your eyes and look at the game as somethign u realy want to play even if it dont work as well as it should on my system.imagine those who cant afford to do computer upgrades maybe once every 7 years. most of them are like i dont care the fps i want to play so ill play it no matter what.
oh well people probaly gonan flam me wit replays but we have a right to it and its about to go retail should be good.people remember there a a bilion differet computer setups out there. they will get it to run on their house computers and a more general setup of computers first then they look at all of us that upgrade our computers alot.
but to put this all in a short of my opinion.if playig at 20fps is making it impossile tto play maybe its about time u moved away from mmos then.once the game is optimized for everyone then comes us people with more custom builds. thats the way it is and the way it always will be.
I'm running on a Q9450 @ 3.6ghz, 8GB Ram, and 5850 crossfire.
I actually gained 5-10fps when I turned off crossfire lol. Everything feels smoother too,
Settings:
Resoultion 1920x1200
AA: x4
Shadows: High
Textures: Highest
That's because sli/crossfire are not supported currently. Running them will only decrease performance, and some will even experience memory leak until there's not enough to run the game and CRASH.
@Superzero: If you are not happy with specs like that then something is wrong. You are either missing a driver, have outdated drivers, or have really messed something up in the configs. Did you do any bios tweaking, have you configured your gaming settings in the control panel for the card, is it configured but accidentally set to run application settings? A number of things could be affecting your PC, but hardware alone does not guarantee a godly PC. I'd recommend using CS:S or L4D2 as a benchmark and play with all the settings you can until you figure out the issue. Also, go back and reinstall all your drivers or even do a full system clean if it's been longer than a year, as a clean HD will increase performance too.
In terms of BIOS, I haven't really changed anything since I got it. I have played around with the Catalyst Control Panel, but as of right now, it's set to use application settings, and to be honest, I really couldn't tell you whether or not my machine is performing normally for its specs. I play mainly MMORPGs, and given what I have to go on, I just figured I'd get more than like (rough estimates) 20-30 in Alganon, 18-50 in Fallen Earth, 30-40 in CO, and 15-30 in STO. Sure, on occasion I spike up to 60 in certain games, but I would hazard to say it's ever a smooth experience.
I play at 1920x1080, 4xAA, Ambient occlusion off, everything else maxed.
Have tried all main cities and using fraps probably dropped below 40 FPS once or twice every hour or so. 60+ outside.
I remember when the benchmark for FFXIV came out and loads of threads were going about. The 5870 was storming ahead. And the GTX480 was struggling to be on par with the 5850s. Very ATI optimised it seems.
Core i5 13600KF, BeQuiet Pure Loop FX 360, 32gb DDR5-6000 XPG, WD SN850 NVMe ,PNY 3090 XLR8, Asus Prime Z790-A, Lian-Li O11 PCMR case (limited ed 1045/2000), 32" LG Ultragear 4k Monitor, Logitech G560 LightSync Sound, Razer Deathadder V2 and Razer Blackwidow V3 Keyboard
dont forget if shadows and AA can lower your fps alot when they on. im getting 14-20 fps on full settings but for the aa and shadow and im happy i have no real lag spikes or anything on the server im on. im ony using a geforce 275 and 8gigs pf ram. most of u guys have got locked into the need more fps thing when it realy dont help u as much as u think it will. for me above 20fps i cant tell any real diffence in anything. that probaly varies person to person but i know one thing. at 60 fps u wont beable to tell any difernce thatn at 40fps unles u got like 5/5 vision or something.
A consistent 40fps would be fine with me (although I can tell a noticeable difference between 40-60). But trying to play a game enjoyably at 15-20 fps is pretty much impossible for me, and I'd assume many others.
The point many of us are making is that it shouldn't be running this badly on most of our systems, at least when they're up to the supposed standards of the game. The optimization seems to need some serious work.
no game comes out full optomized.do u enjoy teh game?is it lagging or u just got low fps?are u doing the weekly maintence on your computer that a gaming pc requirest?
like lot of other people stated fps probaly go up when the gpu manufactures put out a new driver and when square patches the engine some. been the same with any mmo ive ever played. by 4 months after launch u probaly be getting your 40+ fps and even then u wont notice the difffernce(cant find the article i read about how many fps the eye can process ma it was in 30s i remember thou).
be happy with what u got and stop wanting more of useless things imo. open your eyes and look at the game as somethign u realy want to play even if it dont work as well as it should on my system.imagine those who cant afford to do computer upgrades maybe once every 7 years. most of them are like i dont care the fps i want to play so ill play it no matter what.
oh well people probaly gonan flam me wit replays but we have a right to it and its about to go retail should be good.people remember there a a bilion differet computer setups out there. they will get it to run on their house computers and a more general setup of computers first then they look at all of us that upgrade our computers alot.
but to put this all in a short of my opinion.if playig at 20fps is making it impossile tto play maybe its about time u moved away from mmos then.once the game is optimized for everyone then comes us people with more custom builds. thats the way it is and the way it always will be.
You've got to be kidding me. So because I'd rather play something with an acceptable fps (no, 20 is not acceptable for most gamers; you're a minority, believe me) I should move away from mmos? That doesn't make any sense because out of every mmo I've played thus far (which is pretty much every mainstream game out) I've never had such poor performance.
I can understand you want to defend your game of choice to the brink, but your argument is very poor. In this day and age of gaming, a certain level of optimization is expected and if people with insane gaming rigs are having problems keeping their fps above 30 then something is clearly wrong. You can spin it any way that you like but it doesn't change that fact.
Also, the supposed max fps that most people can detect is around 60 fps. I know this from experience as I can easily tell the difference myself.
I do not have nearly the system req's yet i was able to play without much problem at all,as most everything was loading instances,the game said it was loading instances.
I have very little lag,and i don't need any fraps to tell me if i am graphically lagging,it should be obvious.The only issue i had was my Galkan/Roegadyn did not move naturally it looked bad like a Korean type animation.
Mouse lag,didn't notice anything ,sure there was some hitching as expected since my machine is way under the standards,but it was quite playable.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
no game comes out full optomized.do u enjoy teh game?is it lagging or u just got low fps?are u doing the weekly maintence on your computer that a gaming pc requirest?
Feel like elaborating on your weekly gaming PC maintenance? Maybe I learn a thing or two.
Intel Core 2 Duo @2.88 Upgrading to AMD Phenom II x6 1055T 4.0 Gigs DDR2 RAM Upgrading to 4.0 Gigs of DDR3 1066 RAM Asus P5B-NE SLI Mobo Upgrading to MSI 870A-G54 mobo ATI Radeon 4800 Upgrading to ATI Radeon 5770
Just to be able to play FFXIV. Consider that, a Warning.
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After doing some research and reading other people's report, it seems that FFXIV works a lot better with ATI graphics card (ATI 5850, 5870, and 5970).
Nvidia needs to release a new driver to combat this.
Everywhere I am reading is pretty much saying the same thing. I find it funny that no matter what I tweak my FPS still same within a general area that it makes little difference. I notice my CPU is less strained thats for sure, but FPS is saying somethign different. Whats also funny is between a handful of settings my game doesn't slow down or lock up. The onmly time it does is when I turn on Ambient Occlusion, and thats on every setting.
So I am pretty much out of options to tweak it to a point fraps runs good, so I will go back to my previous setting and just deal with it til the end of beta.
Hey, I get asked that a lot. Its just a general gadget you download for Windows 7. Its nothing special I just fire it up from time to time to check different stats.
Here is the link its called All CPU Meter
http://addgadget.com/
Thank you , bud
runs fine on mine at max graphics but for AA. only problem i have is with that slight mouse lag due to it being software mouse and not hardware
the main thing you all need to remember, the games coming out on the ps3, thats 5 year old gameing gear video and cpu wise that costs 300 bucks. its no super computer, but just a consistent good setup that has a predefined set of parameters it can meet. games have issues on pcs when theyre coming out until the gave devs/hardware driver people get the various combinations running and optimize for all possible cpu/gpu/memory setups. this takes time, usually a few weeks after lauch for nvidia, sometimes they never do it with catalyst, sorry ati fan bois but your driver support sux, while im not an avid fan of all nvidia products they win with me due to their decent driver support, you just gotta make sure you dont buy any of their junk models (like the entire 9 series, the mid range 7's, ect ect).
Just curious, how do some of you more tech-savvy members think my 3.5 year-old machine would run it (I think I got a little over 2500 my first benchmark run on low)?
C2d 6600 2.4 ghz
2 gb RAM
8800GTS 640mb
MSI i7 mobo
Windows XP
I'm thinking of upgrading the ram to 4gb, just to get me into next year when I'll be ready to buy a new comp and/or get FFXIV on PS3. Thanks.
I think you might be right about that. I've also been noticing that people using ATI cards don't seem to deal with same proportion of performance issues. In fact, I talked to a guy the other day who claimed he was reaching frames of 113 even amidst a huge crowd. I find that pretty hard to believe, but he had a pretty powerful rig with a couple of top-notch ATI cards.
I just hope the neorandom is right and that our poor performances is mainly due to compatibility issues with the current Nvidia drivers. If that's truly the case, and updated drivers with FFXIV support will clear most of this up, I'll most likely still be on board.
Here's hoping something like that happens before OB is over so we can test it before we spend 50-80 bucks.
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @3.2GHz
Dual XFX Radeon 5870s (does not support Crossfire)
8 gigs of RAM
Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
With all the settings turned up, I'm lucky to break 30 FPS, usually hovering between 14-24. Seeing as I built this computer for games like this, I'm very disappointed in the performance I'm getting out of it.
Hmm, well in that case, I guess it isn't exclusively a Nvidia issue. One question though - do you have ambient occlusion enabled? That seems to cause the hugest performance drop of any option. Try turning that off and see how it runs.
In any case, your rig is a nice amount more powerful than mine yet it has very comparable performance, so I can understand your frustration. Something's definitely not right.
At first, but I disabled it. It didn't seem to really do much for improving my framerate.
My issues could be related to my computer as I seem to underperform in other games as well, but I really have no idea what the cause would be.
dont forget if shadows and AA can lower your fps alot when they on. im getting 14-20 fps on full settings but for the aa and shadow and im happy i have no real lag spikes or anything on the server im on. im ony using a geforce 275 and 8gigs pf ram. most of u guys have got locked into the need more fps thing when it realy dont help u as much as u think it will. for me above 20fps i cant tell any real diffence in anything. that probaly varies person to person but i know one thing. at 60 fps u wont beable to tell any difernce thatn at 40fps unles u got like 5/5 vision or something.
I'm running on a Q9450 @ 3.6ghz, 8GB Ram, and 5850 crossfire.
I actually gained 5-10fps when I turned off crossfire lol. Everything feels smoother too,
Settings:
Resoultion 1920x1200
AA: x4
Shadows: High
Textures: Highest
It's going to be choppy, and you'll need resolution at like 1280x1024, but it will run if you upgrade to 4g ram. Game takes well over 2g to run smoothly.
That's because sli/crossfire are not supported currently. Running them will only decrease performance, and some will even experience memory leak until there's not enough to run the game and CRASH.
@Superzero: If you are not happy with specs like that then something is wrong. You are either missing a driver, have outdated drivers, or have really messed something up in the configs. Did you do any bios tweaking, have you configured your gaming settings in the control panel for the card, is it configured but accidentally set to run application settings? A number of things could be affecting your PC, but hardware alone does not guarantee a godly PC. I'd recommend using CS:S or L4D2 as a benchmark and play with all the settings you can until you figure out the issue. Also, go back and reinstall all your drivers or even do a full system clean if it's been longer than a year, as a clean HD will increase performance too.
A consistent 40fps would be fine with me (although I can tell a noticeable difference between 40-60). But trying to play a game enjoyably at 15-20 fps is pretty much impossible for me, and I'd assume many others.
The point many of us are making is that it shouldn't be running this badly on most of our systems, at least when they're up to the supposed standards of the game. The optimization seems to need some serious work.
That's because sli/crossfire are not supported currently. Running them will only decrease performance, and some will even experience memory leak until there's not enough to run the game and CRASH.
@Superzero: If you are not happy with specs like that then something is wrong. You are either missing a driver, have outdated drivers, or have really messed something up in the configs. Did you do any bios tweaking, have you configured your gaming settings in the control panel for the card, is it configured but accidentally set to run application settings? A number of things could be affecting your PC, but hardware alone does not guarantee a godly PC. I'd recommend using CS:S or L4D2 as a benchmark and play with all the settings you can until you figure out the issue. Also, go back and reinstall all your drivers or even do a full system clean if it's been longer than a year, as a clean HD will increase performance too.
Are you serious? I heard that Crossfire/SLI were not supported in the benchmark program because they were running in windowed mode. So does that mean running the game in full-screen mode will not utilize crossfire/SLI?no game comes out full optomized.do u enjoy teh game?is it lagging or u just got low fps?are u doing the weekly maintence on your computer that a gaming pc requirest?
like lot of other people stated fps probaly go up when the gpu manufactures put out a new driver and when square patches the engine some. been the same with any mmo ive ever played. by 4 months after launch u probaly be getting your 40+ fps and even then u wont notice the difffernce(cant find the article i read about how many fps the eye can process ma it was in 30s i remember thou).
be happy with what u got and stop wanting more of useless things imo. open your eyes and look at the game as somethign u realy want to play even if it dont work as well as it should on my system.imagine those who cant afford to do computer upgrades maybe once every 7 years. most of them are like i dont care the fps i want to play so ill play it no matter what.
oh well people probaly gonan flam me wit replays but we have a right to it and its about to go retail should be good.people remember there a a bilion differet computer setups out there. they will get it to run on their house computers and a more general setup of computers first then they look at all of us that upgrade our computers alot.
but to put this all in a short of my opinion.if playig at 20fps is making it impossile tto play maybe its about time u moved away from mmos then.once the game is optimized for everyone then comes us people with more custom builds. thats the way it is and the way it always will be.
In terms of BIOS, I haven't really changed anything since I got it. I have played around with the Catalyst Control Panel, but as of right now, it's set to use application settings, and to be honest, I really couldn't tell you whether or not my machine is performing normally for its specs. I play mainly MMORPGs, and given what I have to go on, I just figured I'd get more than like (rough estimates) 20-30 in Alganon, 18-50 in Fallen Earth, 30-40 in CO, and 15-30 in STO. Sure, on occasion I spike up to 60 in certain games, but I would hazard to say it's ever a smooth experience.
smooth as silk fps wise atleast
1680x1050 all max, no bloom/ambient occlusion, no aa, 16x af (personally dont like aa thats why)
amd phenom II x4 955 3.2Ghz
8gb ddr3
280gtx 1gb
soundblaster xfi fatality
samsung spinpoint f1 1tb
all running stock speeds
nvidia 258.96
ambient occlusion off
physx set to the gpu
aa = application
af= 16x forced
aa transp = multisampling
prerender = 3
perf mode: single display
ani sample optim: ON
negative lod = allow
texture = quality
trilinear opt = on
threaded opt= ON
triple buffer = off (since i have vsync off)
vsync= forced off
fps 40 is the lowest ive had so far
forgot
Buffer Size: resolution
Shadow Detail:standard
Textures: highest
Pc in sig.
I play at 1920x1080, 4xAA, Ambient occlusion off, everything else maxed.
Have tried all main cities and using fraps probably dropped below 40 FPS once or twice every hour or so. 60+ outside.
I remember when the benchmark for FFXIV came out and loads of threads were going about. The 5870 was storming ahead. And the GTX480 was struggling to be on par with the 5850s. Very ATI optimised it seems.
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You've got to be kidding me. So because I'd rather play something with an acceptable fps (no, 20 is not acceptable for most gamers; you're a minority, believe me) I should move away from mmos? That doesn't make any sense because out of every mmo I've played thus far (which is pretty much every mainstream game out) I've never had such poor performance.
I can understand you want to defend your game of choice to the brink, but your argument is very poor. In this day and age of gaming, a certain level of optimization is expected and if people with insane gaming rigs are having problems keeping their fps above 30 then something is clearly wrong. You can spin it any way that you like but it doesn't change that fact.
Also, the supposed max fps that most people can detect is around 60 fps. I know this from experience as I can easily tell the difference myself.
I do not have nearly the system req's yet i was able to play without much problem at all,as most everything was loading instances,the game said it was loading instances.
I have very little lag,and i don't need any fraps to tell me if i am graphically lagging,it should be obvious.The only issue i had was my Galkan/Roegadyn did not move naturally it looked bad like a Korean type animation.
Mouse lag,didn't notice anything ,sure there was some hitching as expected since my machine is way under the standards,but it was quite playable.
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Feel like elaborating on your weekly gaming PC maintenance? Maybe I learn a thing or two.
1280x720
Standard shadows, no AA
Low Textures, Low Filter;
feels like its around 40 fps on full screen
Intel Core 2 Duo @2.88
Upgrading to
AMD Phenom II x6 1055T
4.0 Gigs DDR2 RAM
Upgrading to
4.0 Gigs of DDR3 1066 RAM
Asus P5B-NE SLI Mobo
Upgrading to
MSI 870A-G54 mobo
ATI Radeon 4800
Upgrading to
ATI Radeon 5770
Just to be able to play FFXIV.
Consider that, a Warning.