You matter how you stress it its basically a customer rip off and not a nice one. The devs also stated that they want lifetimers, gold members to spend additional money on the cash shop.
So the reason they are doing this is really simple: they want you to pay a monthly fee AND pay for the itemshop so its a hybrid model. Turbine - more so Warner BRothers - just wanted to add an item shop to a P2P game so they charge you twice. If this would happen to my game I'd quit immediately and asking my lawyer about a charge back.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Ok so i have paying subscription to Lotro and last night i am playing my lvl 18 and i am running around i have no points as of yet and i thought i would open up a stable master so i go to click on him and find i have to have one point to set this stable master lol and i have to figure out where to get points or buy them... needless to say as of this morning i no longer have a paying subscription to Lotro.
This may be a worthwhile complaint for a pure f2p, but how many times do we have to say that you can get to 50 adequately without quest packs, or that you can get TP points while you play for free? If people like the game so much that they start spending big bucks, they can *gasp* cap their spending by getting a VIP account. The smart ones anyway. What is it with people going crazy when you give them more choices?
Free-to-play means pure F2P. If Turbine would advertise this as -limited-free-to-play, then I bet half of the complaints would be discarded. So yeah, I agree with this "free-to-play" - its not a reasonable statement. If you had access to all levels, limited perhaps to some dungeons (rest being reserved for paying customers), and maybe slower leveling, and maybe restricted to epic weapons, then I would call that a reasonable clause to call it F2P. As it stands now, it is on a level of a trial or at best a very limited F2P game.
Where did you get the definition of F2P saying that it means pure F2P hmm? is it just from playing other games that let you get to level cap? Those games were designed to do that however there are 2 types of F2P. The ones that let you get to end game but will probably make you extremely weak if you don't pay after or the ones that let you play to some part because they were P2P before. F2P litteraly means free to play, and in what way are you not free to play lotro when you can install it and play it even after 20... there is no trial that will delete you account.. it will always be free to play and you will always be able to log into your account... that is just your fanatic idea of f2p because you got used to playing runes of magic or allods, but it's not the same here. For all i care they could make a new gender called f2pbayhtp = free to play but after you have to pay, would that make people like you happy? LOTRO EXPERIENCE THE NEW F2PBAYHTP!!! Sounds awesome!
where did you get the definition of F2P saying its limited to 1/4, 1/3 or even half of the level? Use common sense, if its FREE, then its either completely free, or very close to completely free. If you go to a restaurant for a FREE dinner, would you accept a free drink and pay for dinner as a definition of FREE dinner? Or would you accept free dinner, but have to pay for a drink as a much closer definition of FREE dinner?
Being restricted to a certain level means you are not able to play that much of the content above that level. So, if we compare this to a dinner, you get some bread or maybe an appetizer and thats it, you have to pay for everything else. I mean you did eat some bread, right? That does qualify as a free dinner by your definition.
EDIT: speeling errorrerz.
I said there are 2 types of f2p out there ones which are free to end but make you probably hate it after or f2p that restrict you after 1/3 or 1/2 or w/e. Comparing mmorpg to dinner is redicilous but if i must say yes bread and some appetizers would be considered free dinner. You see you can compare this dinner example to other f2p mmorpgs. You eat dinner every day that has much more than just bread and appetizers correct? Well in your mind that should be free in a restourant when they say they will let your have free dinner but what you don't realize is that bread and appetizers can be considered free just in a cheaper way, I mean afterall you still eat so its free dinner. The same thing happens to you people with mmorpgs that are free. You are too used to playing the same f2p mmorpgs that have the same style and then when you try a different kind of f2p you complain because its not your full dinner you expect... companies use this because its not lying. They use this method because they get a lot more money and can defend themself because of reasons like I stated. Bussiness is all about money son.
Well, you have the right for an opinion. However, it seems you are in a big minority. Most people think bread + salat does not constitute as a dinner in a restaurant. Its just a snack. We agree to disagree.
EDIT: son??? well, i haven't been called that in a while. Pappy, is dat you?
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You matter how you stress it its basically a customer rip off and not a nice one. The devs also stated that they want lifetimers, gold members to spend additional money on the cash shop.
So the reason they are doing this is really simple: they want you to pay a monthly fee AND pay for the itemshop so its a hybrid model. Turbine - more so Warner BRothers - just wanted to add an item shop to a P2P game so they charge you twice. If this would happen to my game I'd quit immediately and asking my lawyer about a charge back.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Ok so i have paying subscription to Lotro and last night i am playing my lvl 18 and i am running around i have no points as of yet and i thought i would open up a stable master so i go to click on him and find i have to have one point to set this stable master lol and i have to figure out where to get points or buy them... needless to say as of this morning i no longer have a paying subscription to Lotro.
Well, you have the right for an opinion. However, it seems you are in a big minority. Most people think bread + salat does not constitute as a dinner in a restaurant. Its just a snack. We agree to disagree.
EDIT: son??? well, i haven't been called that in a while. Pappy, is dat you?
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.