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Lhex
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I recieved this email from somebody, I am assuming, from this forum. Since many of the people he sent it to have .mmorpg.com at the end of their email addresses.
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As the "wow" released on November 23rd, we are glad to say that our business now covers the amazing game.
At this time, we are taking all the reservation for WOW once you place an order, we will deliver the gold soon as possible.
As long as we develop our business and resources, our business will cover all items and equipments.
We are available 24hours a day & 7 days a week.
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Thank you for your concern, we look forward to service you.
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I have removed his email and contact information from his email, as I do not want to further spread and promote this kind of thing. The deleted parts are noted with -----------
First of all this simply makes me mad. I know this is going on and I just wonder how many more of you out there are getting this email? The "forward to" box in his email was maxed out, he probably sent this to about 50 people.
I urge everyone not to use these services as they promote cheating, farming, kill stealing and griefing. Blizzard has already banned 300 accounts and I hope they don't stop there. I do understand that this isnt considered cheating but for a supposed "company" to cover "all" servers must have some bot program or some underground chinese child labor slave force farming, kill stealing and griefing mad loot and gold.
And finally, I really do not like to recieve these emails. Like I said, I dont know where he got my information but since many of the forwarded emails addresses had .mmorpg.com at the end, I only assume its a person from this forum or someone spying this forum.
His email in my address book has his name which I have not listed here in this post as that may cause a ruckus, but if any of the admins want it for any reason just contact me. I dont know if collecting mmorpg.com email addresses is in any violation or not. I feel it should be.
Also, on a side note. At first I didnt mind the advertising of companies that sell gold and loot on this site. I do understand this site needs money. But I am starting to feel that these "companies" and there are alot, promote many bad things in games. And I guess its inevitable. But I feel it promotes, cheating, since the "employees" of the supposed company must farm gold non stop, a nice handy bot program would be nice, eh?, farming, kill stealing and then griefing all occurs from this. And it all comes down to gamers paying for their services and gamers pay for their services by seeing advertisements. Oh and yes, Ebay.
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Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Theyre already planning on totally ruining WoW's economy too -.- Hooray..
Well, that really doesn't say anything at all IMHO. Why did you remove the anme and information of the bogus company?
That contact info would be very nice to overload with a neat amount of SPAM
And frankly I think bluff companys like that should be harassed until they shut down.
And no, they don't deserve to have/deserve to make a living of what they do. Serious business does deserve to, but not leeches like the above mentioned one.
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"Been there, done that!"
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
Why are youtaking these guys so seriously? not the grammar on that letter, do you really believe any company with at least a hint of legitimacy would send that email? Its just a punk who wants to earn some quick bux and most likely end up in jail with a nickname "Cindy".
If I ver dumb enough and greedy enough, id send a bunch of emails to everyone i could find with that sort of email with a promise of gold delivered soon as possible for a small charge in RL $ then it doesnt necessarily mean that I will keep my promise, and it doesnt mean that economy is in stake. What it measn, is that some people tret this as if it would be a legit offer from a legit company. Its a scam! Therefore, it should be treated like one. No need to panic with "WoW is gonna be full of hackers" or "Thats the end for WoW economy" - u will just play right into their hands. So just chill, report this to Bliz and don spread the panic.
"The only thing that is better then a bottle of beer is a bottle of beer full of beer" - old Gnomish proverb
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
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Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Im taking them and other people like them seriously cause it is a real issue. Been to Ebay lately and looked up World of Warcraft, you will then understand this is a real issue. Whether or not you care to believe it.
I am chilling.
And I did send this to blizzard.
I never said "WoW is gonna be full of hackers", or "Thats the end for WoW economy". Your putting words into my mouth, making me sound like a doomsayer.
Read the post, understand that I was warning people and hoping in my own little way preventing this.
From the look of the responses thus far to this post I should just keep my mouth shut as it doesnt do any good from what I can see.
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Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
I was not referring to your post, I was referring to what Manday posted. I know how much virtual stuff people are trying to sell on ebay or on their sites, and that doesnt bother me, because they dont actually ADD more gold, they just shift it around. I dont care who owns 10gold, you or some other guy u sold it for 10 US$, as long as you dont actually ADD 10gold (like we saw in diablo2 with duping). So economy wont be hurt with deals like that, whether its scam or not. The problem with this issue however stands with teh fact that most likely the person who paid 20 US$ to receive pathetic 1 or 10 or 100 gold will NOT receive them. All in all, if some one is dumb enough to fall for that, then its their fault. But to those who start posting messages like "They are going to ruin economy" or regarding speedhacking "they are gonna ruin the gameplay" - thats NOT gonna happen.
"The only thing that is better then a bottle of beer is a bottle of beer full of beer" - old Gnomish proverb
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
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Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
As I aid, to SPAM the e-mail, and because I'm nosy by nature. I don't even have the game yet since I'm European, and since WoW isn't released until January or possibly February I wouldn't have any other use for even if I would be interested.
And for the poster above me; Farmers can, and will, do alot of harm to game economy. Yes they are "just" re-locating money, but most of that money was not earned "honestly". (Meaning it wouldn't have been in the game if teh accounts had all been played by honest players)
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
U r wrong, the money WOULD have been in the game. Lets say i farmed VanCleef to get lots of items. Sold them all, earned 10gold. Then i spam everyone with emails and someone gave me 20US$ for those 10gold. So i take his dollars, give him my 10 gold. So, money changed hands, nothing more. I didnt create 10gold that were not supposed to be. I earned them, i gave them away. (or rather, soldthm away). And if a level 1 char will have 10 gold on hands, will that help them a lot? Not really, sure they can have great items at level 10 and be more powerful then someone at level 20 who DIDNT buy those 10g, but thats not an issue I will concern myself with.
"The only thing that is better then a bottle of beer is a bottle of beer full of beer" - old Gnomish proverb
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
Lhex
can you forward that email to me or any MOD or Admin (via the PM box). If someone is using the mmorpg.com name Im sure Admin would like to know!
thanks!
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Got the email also in my junk box... ^ ^. Wonder which site sold the addresses?.
Which sites are you apart of?. Mmorpg.com, allakhazam are my main WoW fansites... im just wondering how he got WoW player addresses?
Gonna be pissed if someone sold our addresses to botters
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i forwarded the one that i received :P
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Dood, you make no sense... Do you realy believe if there was no way to sell virtual gear this would eliminate farming? Its like saying, he/she scored a goal because i cheared for him/her! He/she wouldnt have scored the goal if you didnt chear for him/her??? Ya not making any sense
"The only thing that is better then a bottle of beer is a bottle of beer full of beer" - old Gnomish proverb
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Oh noes! Not even a month out and people are already advertising for that crap. I love it...a few people, maybe even some from this very site, are going to start selling their items and money to those people. There is no way you can really stop it.
Me, myself, rank selling ingame items and money for real time money right up there with hacking and 1337 $p3@k up their with my level of in-game gayness.
I hope Blizzard can find a way to discourage this type of gaming, but there is no way they can stop it all together, so don't try getting your hopes up too high. Expect them to do something, but don't expect too much, or else you will be disappointed.
"If you don't set your goals too high, you won't fall too far."
jimmyman your missing the point.
If there was no demand for online money i.e selling it on IGE etc. Then there would be less players farming over and over 24/7.
This difference in money would mean the ingame economy would be more stable and casual player friendly.
If they couldn't sell it on IGE then there would definately be some impact to the amount of currency floating around BECAUSE there would be nobody paying 50 bucks for 250 gold etc which would be additional gold in the market.
It all depends on the size of the population and the amount of people buying currency. Say for instance 50% of WoW players bought 250 gold each for 250 dollars each. Then there would be an influx of gold into the server (i know its already there but we are talking about farming for real life dollars, it wouldn't be there if there was no dollar -> game currency trading because the farmers would go elsewhere or not exist) thus making all the weapons and armour much more expensive.
Want an example? if you played diablo 2 online... Stone of Jordan duping. This caused the economy to inflate such that at the start 1 stone of jordan was a rarity but towards the end and even now some items require 50 stone of jordans to be bought etc.
It inflates the economy generally making things more expensive where the rich are rich and the poor casual players get poorer and cannot compete with the people who buy 250 gold from one of these sites.
I just hope not many people buy money online its a stupid thing to play a game and pay for online currency heh. Some people are truly besotted with the game and perhaps need to go outside and breath some fresh air get a nice cup of coffee and socialise in the real world.
If you dont think that these people have some effect (the effect is unknown really as the severity of player -> cheater ratio is unknown) on the economy in whole making items more expensive as there is plenty of gold flying around then you obviously aint thought into it alot.
ANd no the gold wouldn't be there if there was no demand for it, as the farmers wouldn't play and everyone would play normally to get money and not have 10+ accounts playing 24/7 gathering gold over and over.
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It, in a way, does bring money that would otherwise not be there. The ppl who sell their ingame currency don "play", they jus botfarmfishbot almost 247 becuz their IRL money depends on how much ingame money they make.
So if youre botting, fishbotting, or hacking in some way, you are able to do so 247, whereas the real person can only do this for MAX 16 hrs a day. Especially if your bot is designed to huntcraftfish n then sell to NPC (which is wat most bots do). This money is coming from nowhere. It floods the market. Why do you think high lvl fish places had their fish taken out of them? Becuz botters were overrunning these places, selling everything to NPC. N theres practically no way, except GMs receiving complains abt someone not answering PMs while theyre fishing or smth, to catch them. Theres no sign over a botter's head that says "IM CHEATING".
Anyways. These ppl do ruin economies. -.- Maybe not this scamming POS sending out emails, but the companies that hes mimicking.
Wouldn't it be something if so many people started farming in the game that it actually started to effect people's real life economies? If a game could be powerful enough to make a country's dollar worth less gold than usual. How scary would that be? Scary and awesome to know a game is so cool that people are willing to go bankrupt to play it and also scary for the exact same reason.
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How can one, two, ten or even 100 people farming for money ruin the economy of 10 or 100 thousand people server? Peaople will farm, whether to sell it or to keep it. There is a slight incentive to farm if they know they can sell it, but thats like a needle in a haystag. That will NOT affect economy. Dont compare Diablo2 to WoW, in Diablo2 there was DUPING, which means making a COPY of an item. That is NOT the case with WoW. I do not even think farming in WoW is possible to the extend it was in EQ. I am level 26 rogue, and im farming Deadmines, ive got some good drops, and If i knew i could sell those I might farm a bit more andget a few extra drops taht I wouldnt have otherwise had. Would those extra few items ruin economy? No, in order for economy to be influenced by farming, you would have to have a LOT of people do it, AND you would have to have item rarity be like in EQ, which is NOT the case in WoW. Items are VERY common in WoW. If you farm them, all you CAN do is lower the price on the items a bit (and even to doso you would need a LOT of people farm same level items).
So several people who "farm" to sell is in no way a thret to economy, it is still illegal and there is a chance that whoever pays money for a virtual item will actually receive nothing in return.
"The only thing that is better then a bottle of beer is a bottle of beer full of beer" - old Gnomish proverb
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
we have to distinguish between the two types of farmers:
Farmer for Real Life money, Is PAID to farm aka Sleezball
Farmer for In game currency aka FarmerJohn
So if there is only a few SleezBalls then fine it wont affect the economoy, but if there was 10% of online players being Sleezballs then it would affect the economy as they would add gold equivalent to about 5 times the amount a normal player would add to the server. (normal player dont play 24/7 farming mobs... they quest, chat, go on raid etc). It would affect the economy.
Over time the affect will build up helping the general game inflation.
Theres always gonna be FarmerJohn Farmers but the SleezBalls DON'T have to be there and WOULDN'T be there if there was no dollar -> gold trading going on. But there is a demand for it so they supply it. More and more people will jump on the bandwagon as instanced by nm8 joining IGE as one of the website traders of WoW gold ^ ^.
All im saying is i dont want to have to compete with little Jimmy who has his daddy's CC and can buy 250 GOLD when i would only ever dream of amounting that much.
Basically it boils down to cheating heh. Buying online money is generally cheating in my eyes. You didn't earn it or work for it in game. Same with buying a character at lvl 60 (which i might add is on ebay atm :P ). I dont see the novelty some people get from buying these things heh, they are more likely to leave because they don't have a feeling of ownership.
Can we stop the silly argument about the Paid 2 Play Gold Farmers Now and agree on one thing?: They are not in any way good for a game economy. Even if the effect is small it is unfair for people to be able to buy money from these places.
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Funny you call it a stupid game for immature people....
I happen to enjoy this game, and I don't play anything but GOOD games... If I don't liek it I won't play a minute in the game.
This is a good game. It's the stupid idiotic flaming between EQ 2/WOW players that is ruining it for us. I used to think EQ 2 would be cool, and WOW sucked (I thought everyone was a fanboy) but now that I tried it I see it's an excellent game. It's stupid to fight over games. Don't like a game? Take your money and go somewhere else. It's a free world, don't force others into liking your game. You have the right to your opinion, but the second you disregard someone else's you are WRONG....
-Tzale
"The only thing that is better then a bottle of beer is a bottle of beer full of beer" - old Gnomish proverb
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.