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Ok, I'm a little bummed here. I am lvl 21 now, and just asked my kin about dungeons. "Yeah dude, first one is at 20 you can start one". To my dismay, I saw no possible way for me to flag myself for a instance. I found the instance tab, sure, and I even found a way to "kinda" flag myself for a quest. Holy crap, prove me wrong here people and tell me there is other possibilities other than spamming the LFF channel. Its 2010. EQ made you spam, sure, but that was over ten years ago! =/
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emmm ask in GLFF.
/Joinchannel glff
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And what's wrong with that?
it's not "spam" if you ask in the lookikng for group channel.
And this way you get to speak with the people you are going to group with, you have interaction, you get a sense of who you will be playing with.
Heck, I'm a die hard soloer and I believe in the LFG channel.
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This ^
Even though GLFF is used as global MSN most of the time rather than a GLFF channel lol.
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Many of us have been asking for a better LFG tool since launch. In the latest dev chat Turbine said they are working on in.
For now chat spam is the only option...
Its's strange that DDO have a great tool that everybody use
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Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Seems like what he really wanted to say is that he wants the wow instance grp finder in Lotro lol. He was mad that it didnt have it already.
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Here is a half serious half joking suggestion , make a Minstrel. I normally turn off tells when plaing my minnie.Once you establish a repas a good Minnie or Guardian getting group invites is nefer a problem.
On the serious side while the normal LFG could use some tweaking for the most part I am ok with it and wish they would just add a way to flag yourself for the new classic instances.
Until that happens, my suggestion is let your kin know you would like to run some, surely they have some alts around your level.
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That would be an improvement for sure.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Most people don't like grouping outside their guild/kinship anyway. Hopefully though with new people who aren't stuck up elitists now playing, this will change...
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I agre. There should be a way to tag you to a dungeon so others know that you are looking and you don't have to spam the lff channel. I like the idea of WoW's group finder, but I think it was horribly implemented.
This is the part I don't get. Why can't they just use the same concept in Rings? It works great in DDO and outside of WoW's dungeon finder is probably the best lfg tool I have seen in an mmo.
Is there a licensing issue that essentially ties their hands from simply converting this tool use in DDO in Rings?
Anyways, as others have said use the glff tool. It may not be pretty but it works and you'll find a group fairly fast through it. It pays to be in the glff channel anyways to see what is going on since that is what most use as global chat anyways. Well, outside of when people get stupid on the channel, but it tends to be hell of a lot more docile than global channels in most other games.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
My favorite group finder would be a toss up between Aion and City of Heroes. Both have fantastic LFG tools, and they're far better than WoW's implementation.
That's great but what does that have to do with the price of cabbage in China?
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Everybody knows that goldfarmers stay away from games with great LFG tools. And the price of cabbage in China directly corresponds to how well the goldfarmers are doing.
But really, I'm just saying that if LotRO is to implement a better LFG tool, they should base it on one of those two, rather than WoW.
Really you would think they could just use their concept in DDO in this game since Turbine is involved in both of them. Only thing I can think of is that for whatever reason it cannot be done either from a licensing or programming standpoint. I know people taht have played both games comment all the time about how they wish LotR used the lfg tool from DDO. I'm sure it has been mentioned to the devs countless times too. If they would use that model it would work great for Rings. Granted there are a lot more quests needing groups in Rings than DDO. Maybe it is just too much of a programming hassle?
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
DDO has a LFG tool? CoX does too? Weird... did not know. Well, I know that DDO has sort of something and so does CoX... but they are pretty much what you get in LOTRO or almost any game...
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Can't speak for COX but DDO's is a lot nicer than most other games. It is very easy to use and you can sign up for specific quests or dugeons easily yet still fairly detailed providing information far as what groups are looking for, what they have, notes, etc.. It is extremely user friendly and simplistic to use which is why it is used much more extensively than it is in other games. Plus it actually works which seems to plague lfg tools in more games than one would think.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
the couple of games i've seen LFG tools in, i found those to be pretty useless. it's so much easier to just put "lfg for X" or "lfm for X" into chat. A while ago ( i dunno might be years actually), they added a super high-tech LFG tool into EQ2. They actually polled the community on how to design it and used a lot of what was requested. No one uses it - well, i'm sure a couple of people do, but very few. I don't see why i'd want to spend any kind of time fiddling around with that tool when it just takes a second to type a message into chat or to respond to one. But that's just me.
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I actually left the game at end game because I don't like spamming channels looking for a group for 30+ minutes which was happening a lot. I was on Landroval (Great server by the way), west coast time, and around 9pm-12am. My guild was kind of small at that time and I wasnt getting any responses so I left.
Personally I don't see anything wrong with WOWs tool. It works. It brings people together across servers. The wait time is minimal. I know people who are doing random dungeons to level all the way up ignoring the quests. Yea, the bad thing is you may end up getting a bad fit or some 8 year old, but in general it seems to work and most people love it.
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Guys, LOTRO HAS a LFG tool that works almost exactly like the one in DDO. The problem is everyone doesn't notice it because it's the second tab at the bottom of the social panel. Try clicking the Open Fellowships tab. The tool is global. Here you can join a group that's open already. Or start your own group. It has a convenient quest dropdown that you can pick from a quest in your log. Or you can just enter your own note. There's a player class dropdown where you can specify what classes you are looking for. You can enter the min level and max level too.
It's a good tool, it just needs to be the first thing you see when you open the social panel. People wouldn't need to spam chat to find groups if they'd just use the tool provided.
No one ever really uses that...On my server I only ever see 1-2 groups in there at most.
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Yep, second tab. That is the major issue. Really, in all seriousness. LFG being second tab. Or rather none ever trying to figure out what is actually wrong with it in all those years. The rest like group composition not being apparent is minor compared to second tab.
On a sidenote, the best LFG experience I had was in Dragonica, sidescrolling childish MMO: people just naturally flocked to dungeon entrances, you clicked, a panel popped over your head, people clicked that and you had a group, pugged the dungeon in few minutes (with unbelievably intuitive "WoW raid" strategy like "kite adds, focus boss", "don't stand in fire"). Post EQ vast world with solo emphasis and steep level curve is not conductive to grouping, it is hodgepodge of paradigms not meshing well together.
LFF is your best chance, and theres a thing called glff chat, but you have to be premium, to join it you have to type /joinchannel glff Then you can type /1 and what you want to say, you can have up to five user chats, and this one has a ton of people in it around primetime, you can get a fellowship pretty fast doing that.
Turbine should just make a global looking for fellowship chat instead of user chat that you have to join that is created by players. This is probably the only beef I have about this game, as I have to tell alot of new players about the chat channel.
And I bet you can only imagine how much fighting goes on in that user chat, because no one wants to leave the channel in case someone shouts for a fellowship they want to join haha....
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Yep... I wager that it's not as effective in LotRO as it is in DDO because there's probably 5-10 times the quests and you'll possibly being doing 3-4 quests along with the quest you've got set. I've never had any luck using it, either.
Maybe if they went by quest hub, instead?
Everybody is complaining about WoW and how it has become no more than an instance theme park with no soul and no world and now what? The F2P crowd is coming to Lotro and wants it to be like WoW? NO FRAKING THEME PARK GAME HERE, GO BACK TO LOONEY TOON GAME Now you get em more money, so you gonna get what you want, then you gonna complain it was better vanilla, it was more Immersive blah blah... You ppl are the reason why MMOs are that bad nowadays.
I now declare that MMO shall be called MOO instead, because they are design for cow levels of intelectual accomplishment.