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The "is it worth coming back" question answered
Swiftblade13
Member Posts: 638
Greetings folks.
I'm here to share my experience with you in hopes of getting you pointed in the right direction. I've been playing WoW on and off (and spent a lot of time desperately seeking an alternative -i.e.-vanguard =( etc.-) for over 5.5 years.
After raiding vanilla wow for quite a while I burnt out and left. At the time I had no desire to EVER return to the game. A while after BC came out my friends finally begged me enough to force me to come back to the game for a bit....
Thanks to my "burnt out" status and mindset I suffered through BC... got to level 70 and ran a couple Khara raids and a few heroics... whined about the fact that it was repetitive and basically all the same thing.. and quit again...
If that's still the way you feel about WoW I think that's what you could expect to feel upon returning.. no matter how good the expansion is.
Now I took a longer hiatus and played a lot of other games before Wrath came out... even when the new expansion launched I still had no desire to start up WoW again.... but maybe 3 or 4 months after Wrath hit stores... I suddenly felt the urge.... for the first time since Vanilla.
I bought the expansion.. logged in and fell in love all over again. Was it because Wrath was so far superior to BC? I don't think so... its all a matter of your mindset... I was ready and I've been having a great time ever since.
The game has far more to occupy you at the level cap now than it ever did before... and than any other MMO has ever had.. BUT... it's all a treadmill and once you get in that mindset and see through the mechanics.. it's time to take a break until you FEEL like playing again.
I'm in Cata beta, and I can tell you the expansion is great... with each expansion WoW has improved overall.. but every individual can find something in the changes that they don't like... My one complaint with WotLK was that things definitely have gotten too easy... but you know what... there is ALWAYS content available in WoW that is very challenging.... it's simply that nearly everything used to be challenging, and now its only the current top raid tier etc... but anyone who wants to tell you that the top tier raid on heroic mode is not challenging is full of crap... just look at how few people are able to complete it even with the "nearly free" high end gear available to everyone.
So the moral of the story.... if you feel like you are ready to return do it... If you never tried it it's time to treat yourself to the most polished and "fleshed out" MMO in existence... if you still feel burnt out and you are grasping at straws... you arent likely to enjoy any other MMO either while in that mindset (I sure didn't).. so I suggest just moving away from MMO's till you are ready to return.
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Have to agree, I had a similar experience w/ TBC and WotLK. In fact, I took another break from WotLK a few months ago and am excited to jump back in for Cata. The idea that you can play a game for 6 years without it getting boring and old is silly. So much better to enjoy it for a while, take a break, repeat as necessary.
Ummm, no thanks. I played the game for over a year and have NO desire to come back. Cata looks interesting and I think it's great they have redone continents, but that's about it.
this is how WoW has proven it'self to be such an incredibly addictive game.
for some unknown reason it sticks to you no matter how many times you get burned out. i myself have "burned out" on many other games but almost never have i felt the urge to go back. WoW is some how different. i'v burned myself our many times and left this game but every time i end up wanting to come back. no matter if it's a week later or sometimes months later, the craving always comes back.
WoW is actual virtual crack. you can't explain why you want it, you just do. it's friken creepy.
I left WOW when I hit 80 and discovered how much time you must give to raiding and just felt that I no longer had the time to devote to WOW like I had in the past. Plus, all the people I played with had moved on and I got a little burned out from runnning a guild and dealing witth the large flux of kiddies to the game.
As far as it being challenging, sure it can be, but they have made the game too easy at early levels, especially in Northshire abbey where the Defias just stare at you know when you get Milly's grapes and do not attack any more.
That said, i will return for Cataclysm for two reasons.
1.The world will be remade and I can start a new toon with a Worgen.
2. My girlfriend won't forgive me if I don't (she is a WOW fangirl).
I am a little unsure why people keep asking this question. The game has a free trial. download the client and see for yourself and yes once cata launches you will get to see the revamped world with the free trial. Why take someone else's opinion (which will always have some form of bias) when you can make one of your own.
Also, i disagree that you have to play the game to the max level to make your decision on whether you want to stay or not. If in the first few hours of game-play you don't find it fun and it feels boring, theres a good chance it will feel that way for the rest of the game.
So do yourself a favor and go through the free trail or at the very least wait till 2-3 months after the release of Cata to make your decision so you will get a good idea of what the general public and critics think of the game. Asking advice from a board populated by zealous lovers and jaded ex-lovers of the game is not a good idea ihmo.
Based on the information I have researched on the expansion it offers nothing to make me come back. I'm so over the grind for gear over and over again and I don't see this changing with Cata. It does look like they made one change I do like and that is bringing back CC to the game. It's a move in the right direction but not enough for me to return.
I'll be one of the guys who "gives it a wait" meaning will see what happens after the December release, and wait till about Feb - March and see what people think. WoW in my opinion after exhausting the content is extremely repeating the same stuff over and over for no gain and it's boring. Every game loses it's fun, but WoW is the same game every expansion, just reskinned in Outlands or in Cold Northrend or in the Cataclysm. Sure there's new raids, new gear and such, but this content does get exhausted after a month or so, and doesn't keep you subbing again. The main reasons of resubbing to WoW is the people you've met, not the game itself.
I don't hate the game, i've had many fond memories, but this time I won't buy the new expansion right away, but wait it out. I'm also in the Cataclysm beta as well and I admit some content is getting a major facelift and overhaul which screams to the veterans to come and play again. But as I've stated, I'll give it a month or two wait when the conjestion dies down and it becoms more stable. Everyone knows the Cata launch will be very unstable for the first month.
I think it's mainly due to the fact that the game doesn't really punish the player for taking an extended break; No matter how long you are gone you can easily get back to (or close enough to) where your friends/guild are advancement wise.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Tempted, but I've been badly burned by Wrath and it's Facebook ease, AoE, insta-gratification crowd.
Levelling will be fun. Dungeons are promised to be harder, needing CC, which will last for all of two months before they're either out-geared or the nerf bat is swung for the lazy whiners. Gating will be back to hold back the raiding progress of the higher guilds and ten man co-ops will be all the rage for going for server firsts. Guilds will probably be more important again, unless they receive no updates to the guild reward system, so the community might improve on the sewage that it currently is.
Problem is, it's WoW and there's nothing better out there yet. So tempted, yet so bitter. It's like a candy bar that I know will taste nice for the first few bites, but might be dog poop in the middle and at the end.
Couldn't agree more. Nice logic xD
I played WoW closed beta to about a year afterward. Have 2 level 60's and decided to quit (vanilla WoW days). I came back on free time to check out the newest expansions but each time bored to tears. WoW needs new classes. The same boring ones (including the deathknight) makes WoW totally dull for me.
yeah I am in the same boat here. I want to try it but feel its too soon so we will see. But likely will not be going back
BC was enjoyable but everything after that I felt like I was playing in Kalgan and Ghostcrawlers private server, every thing that beat their Arena team got nerfed and NEVER came back. Then I look around And Warriors, Paladins and DKS are GODs and anything with a healer spec gets healing buffed and their other specs RUINED. WOTLK turned some classes into raid bosses a gimped some so badly you would need two expansions to fix them at all. DKs were an especially BAD idea that totally imbalanced the game to attract kids and new players. PVPers were forced to PVE for gear which was lame, and the Token system is lame. The areas were so easy and the Dungeons so easy that I dont lie when I tell you, you can walk a level 30 through most of Northrend on a mount.
ok, so i have to know. WHY WHY WHY do people call the original WoW ... vanilla wow? why not chocola wow or pizza wow or preBC wow or why not just original wow? how/why/where did the term "vanilla" describe "first" or "original"? doesnt make any sense to me
that being said, i absolutely loved VANILLA!!! (<<lol) wow. there was just something about it that made it so much fun. i played BC, i played WotLK and i quit/resubbed several times off and on over the years.
pretty much my only problem with wow came when all the dps/healing meters came. im not trying to compete with a 12 year old talking shit spamming spells thinking theyre ZOMGL33T because they have a higher number than someone else. it just takes soooo much away from the game. the game was fun when it was about the community, team work, finally getting a new boss down, etc. now everyone just facerolls everything and brags about numbers.
i would love to see a server where mods arent allowed, or something to get people off meters. theres enough time for bullshit numbers in life, lets keep them out of games that are supposed to fun IMO
i dont hate the wow, and i will most likely check out cataclysm when it releases. but ultimately, the end game is just a number game. and thats not what im looking for in an mmorpg
Well no matter what game you take, the is it worth question can only be answered by yourself. Easy to do so by installing a trial version or wait on some comeback weekends. Tastes are usually different.
For me the downhill road started with mid BC when they introduced raid like gear for badges and removed all the nicely done access quests. People went into these instances with crap gear and started screaming they would be too hard, so the big nerf came and then oh well Wotlk...an addon which should have been by far the hardest I mean, you're fighting against Arthas himself got dumbed down beyond everything. Glad that I've stopped playing with 3.1 and didn't have to deal with all the crap called gating and not rewarding hardmodes.
Didn't pay much attention to Cataclysm, but for sure veterans won't get tons of new stuff:
only five new zones
only five levels
raid gating to stop progress guilds from finishing content *lmao*
dumbed down stat mechanics so the facebook crowd doesn't have to use their brain..
linear quest style
Anyway its up on everyones known if its worth it or not, I looked forward to the so called "path of the titans" system hoped it would be like Everquest 1s AA system but they removed it, so no way back.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
I too will come out of retirement for Cataclysm, probably. I'm looking forward to seeing the world redone. I'm disappointed that there are no new classes though.
Anyway, I was just thinking about what made vanilla WoW better than the last two expansions and I decided that what I miss most is the unpredictability. Whether it be world pvp encounters, rare spawns, raid bosses, a hidden vendor, vendors selling rare recipes, or just some really cool stuff tucked in the woods somewhere. The game seems utterly bland and predictable now. In all my time in Northrend, I never encountered anything that made me stop and think "wow, that's pretty cool and unexpected". Vendor recipes always require rep grinding, there are no more world bosses, rare spawns, hidden vendors, or even world pvp for the most part. Almost before even playing we know exactly where everything is, what to expect, who drops the best loot, etc..
Also, WoTLK was so absurdly easy.
OHHHhhh they added RAID Gating now that changes things entirly, they have totally given in to Elitist large RAID guilds this basically means large guilds will dominate and Control Raid content, the only way to progress is to pay them or join them... in most cases pay them, or they could be mean which they probably will be and not let you in regardless, sort of like how raid guilds ruined PVE in Everquest2. OMG that is sad.
And what you said about dumbed down stat mechanics was DEAD ON. The only reason I could Stand wow was the thought it took to put my PVP spec together... but now I might as well be playing Farmville.