Originally posted by ir0nfist After playing many many hours and different chars, I can say that EQ2 is a decent game, but at this point I feel that is has innate design flaws that kill it for me. Soloing is not viable. At lower levels it is, but once you start getting up there, if you want to see any worthwhile gain, you must group. This leads to a second complaint. Sure you can say that it helps people to help each other, but in all reality it doesn't. This is shared xp debt. On most of my chars I've died maybe max of 10 times on each. Normally caused by a total wipe deep in an area that makes it almost impossible to escape. XP debt breaks groups apart in a flash after a single wipe. The wipe normally being caused by players who will not listen to how they should play with other classes. My most recent char has been an enchanter. And in *many* groups, people will just not listen when you tell them to assist the MA. You'll have people fighting multiple mobs, a caster soloing another mob, tanks trying to control all aggro by hitting something once and just succeeding in breaking a mez. Now not everyone is like this. I have been in a *few* groups that actually understand how they should play. But that is not all that often, still when it is it is a breath of fresh air. Yeah, i could possibly join a decent guild with decent players and solve most of that, but there are others things besides this that hurt the game. I've run into a lot of seriously frustrating bugs, eg invis mobs in stormhold beating the crap out of you, causing multiple shard recoveries which just leads to more of the same situation. Invisible NPC's in buildings etc. The grind really starts kicking in as you level. Yes you can tradeskill, I've got a scholar and an outfitter. But you can only do that so much also. Monotony kicks in. Gratification takes too long to achieve for me. Shared debt adds to it. Sitting around waiting for groups with pointless solo content does not alleviate it. I've got 2 kids and a wife and a job. Even *if* I had as much time as I wanted to play, I don't think I would because it can just take soo long to level. No, it's not like first release of EQ1 long, but it's still very long without any real gratification. Only 4 char slots. I like to try out different chars to see which fits me best. I've already had to delete 3 decently leveled chars in order to do this and it sucks. Now they are allowing 8 slots, *if* you pay 7 bucks more per month. Another point, SOE CS is friggin horrible. You almost never see them post a response to anything significant. They won't even acknowledge certain problems eg mem leaks that seriously can impact gameplay. In only one place have I seen the mem leaks acknowledged by an SOE employee, and that was on eq2interface.com when speaking of creating gui's etc. But never would they acknowledge a problem on their own forums and admit they have a prob they need to fix. They make themselves a faceless corporation. Not good. Though alot of the game is excellent, I am finding that the combination of these things are driving me away, hence in the morning I'm stopping at the store and picking up WoW. I don't know if i will find the same things their that I do with EQ2, but i've been driven to it. With serious competition, SOE can't act like they are the only players out there anymore, but yet they still are acting as such. In the end, this will hurt them until they smarten up. And even if they do, people will still be left with a bad taste in their mouths. I'm not saying EQ2 will go down or anything. But it sure can take a hit. I think with peoples free months running out around this time, they are about to find that out. They are not the MMO gods they beleive themselves to be. This is all the way I am feeling now. Your experience may differ which would mean you have different expectations and different things amuse you. That's fine. I'm glad if you enjoy it and have not had problems. I'm just saying, I'm disappointed... very much so. I built my comp specifically for EQ2, and it has not turned out like I had hoped at all. It's really too bad. I so looked forward to it for years. C'est la vie.
I'm not here to bash you or anything but want to bring up a few points:
1) Grouping: This is an MMO, its not a playstation game or a FPS, grouping is always gonna yeild better rewards then soloing, and depending on your class soloing is viable, I still can do it now as a level 30 but I'm a warden...Do you really expect to get the same rewards for soloing as you do for grouping? If you do you are silly.
That right there is the "EQ" mentality and why they dont get what's wrong with this game. First off, Soloing is NOT viable...yes its doable but so is scraping my tongue with a razorblade. Doesnt mean anyone in their right mind would want to because its so painfully slow and boring. Do I reallt expect the same rewards ? For the most part, yes I do. And who defined MMO as group /guild events ??? Those things are something to enjoy on the side like crafting but shouldnt be the center of my game experience. For some reason EQ types think guild is god.
Originally posted by r1tual I dont play EQ2, but I was a beta tester. I just want to guage how many people hate the game as much as I did during beta... I know this game and WoW brings in alot of fanboys, but what are your impressions?
I wouldnt play this game ever. Unless I was given a maxed out game master character with unlimited resources for free. But that aint happening. So who has quit yet? Dont worry im not playing WoW, I think WoW sucks too. Maybe even worse then EQ2.
Since beta you have been bashing EQ2. You must really hate this game to still be trolling the boards. Get a life, find a game you do like.
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I'm not here to bash you or anything but want to bring up a few points:
1) Grouping: This is an MMO, its not a playstation game or a FPS, grouping is always gonna yeild better rewards then soloing, and depending on your class soloing is viable, I still can do it now as a level 30 but I'm a warden...Do you really expect to get the same rewards for soloing as you do for grouping? If you do you are silly.
That right there is the "EQ" mentality and why they dont get what's wrong with this game. First off, Soloing is NOT viable...yes its doable but so is scraping my tongue with a razorblade. Doesnt mean anyone in their right mind would want to because its so painfully slow and boring. Do I reallt expect the same rewards ? For the most part, yes I do. And who defined MMO as group /guild events ??? Those things are something to enjoy on the side like crafting but shouldnt be the center of my game experience. For some reason EQ types think guild is god.
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Since beta you have been bashing EQ2. You must really hate this game to still be trolling the boards. Get a life, find a game you do like.
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how many threads like this have you started on these forums r1tual? dont you ever get fed up lol
all i can think is you must be a professional troll whats the going rate for one of these must be at least $1/hour lol