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Game revolution 25/100 on metacritic
Skoamroth
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http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/pc/final-fantasy-xiv
Am I correct to assume the only 2 "good" reviews on metacritic are website that actually sell the game? In which case I dont belive their reviews should count for anything?
EDIT - appears cheat code central does not sell the game.
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I'm going to use this thread about something that was been erking me in some of these reviews.
OK, WTF is up with some these sites saying the map sucks or is broken? I don't get it.
No where does the game or maunal tell you that you can scroll that map. That is a gripe and although minor and can understad why.
So its 'broken' because the players dont know how to use it?
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Yeah, thats usually how it goes. If a player can't figure something out in a few seconds they just pass poor judgement on it, or whine about it until someone shows them.
Its part of that whole instant gratification thing kids love to do now.
Yeah I don't understand how they think the map's hard to figure out if you've ever played an mmo before you shouldn't have to struggle.
If a lot of your clients can't figure out how a feature works. It is poor design, not customer fault.
I would imagine the vast majority of people it took more than a "few" seconds. I played beta, finally figured it out by accident once retail hit live. So it took me quite a few days. Is it a valid complaint sure, seems a lot of people can't get the difference between instant gratification and something that should require a simple look up. One of the first things I do is scroll the the keymap to figure out how to work games, it isn't there thus has to be stumpled upon. I guess accidental knowledge of how the UI works is makes in not instant gratification? Guess the next game that wants to cater to a harder crowd should have the keymap be totally random without a way to look it up ingame either.
So I could understand that whole argument. Regardless reviews are coming in at so low because of about 3-4 things. If those 3-4 things are fixed these reviews go from whatever to an average of 75% I would imagine, though what keeps players is their personal preference.
I disagree with the two posts. Now if it WERE in the manual, or explained in the game, and the player bitched about it being broken, that would be entirely different.
I have never played a game that doesn't explain the game mechanics, GUI, etc before FFXIV. I don't need my hand held, but many things in a game SHOULD be explained in writing.
Yeah well, 90% of the comments in this review fall back to numerous statements about how they couldnt' figure it out, the game didnt' show them something. Its mostly assumptions built off lack of 'knowing' from the looks of it.
Seriously, I look at a review in the context of reliability of the author. Good or bad doesn't matter, a review is afterall one persons view of what they seen. I do however look poorly on any author who changes fact in order to further thier viewpoint. A lie is a lie is a lie to me, and if the author is willing to tell a lie, even one, in thier review well then I dont care what the rest says.
So far Gamespot had at least one in theirs, and this one has one as well.
"You shouldn’t have a hampered play experience just because no one breathes a word about your gear taking durability damage that you can’t even see unless you show it to a vendor who can repair it."
Just not accurate at all. You can see your durability on every piece of gear you use in this game. If the colored icon at the top with the mouseover tooltip doesn't get your attention enough you can manually look at each item seperately. The in game manual also covers this topic completely, lack of reading it when it is on EVERY crystal you touch is not the games fault. To say that you cann't even look at the damage on your own is 100% false, and I'm sorry, but anyone who has played this game for more than 2 hours knows this as true.
So where does that leave this review? Well read it again after you know the author is willing to 'bend' the facts in order to push thier viewpoint and see how it reads this time through. What I see is this...
"the fact that there’s no real strategy to the “hit-the-same-buttons-till-it-dies” combat is inescapable."
"And I guess since we’re on the subject of stupidity, now would be a good time to mention the atrocious interface. "
"But the sour cherry on top is that FFXIV’s interface lags something fierce."
"Other classes fall into the gathering or crafting category. Both spend their time doing ponderous mini-games that have the spark of potential, but just end up being annoying after about a dozen times."
"The maddening part is that the game never tells you, even in the goddamn manual, that these keys have this very important function."
"So you’ll have to check the objectives map, back out through some menus, bring the regular map up, and try to remember where you saw those objectives."
Fairly obvious, he got UI lag for whatever reason, hated it from there. No help, couldnt' figure it out, blamed the game for all his troubles. Hated the gathering, hated the crafting, thought it was all boring. Didnt' bother to try and understand the intracacies of the combat at all, just mashed one button and figured thats all there was to the entire game because he could survive a low level mob encounter that way. Oh yeah, and got lost a lot, lets not forget that one because its paramont to the overall review. No direction, no guidance, bad game.
"So for now the economy revolves around NPCs called retainers that each player can employ."
This last quote from the review I saved till last as I think it generally points out the reviewers lack of knowledge on how FFXIV is already evolving within the first two weeks after launch. Anyone who is playing this game, and has taken a small trip down Hawkers will know what I'm talking about. The economy doesn't happen in the retainer market wards at all. They are just there, thats it - hardly anyone I know even bothers to go there except to use thier retainer for a bank anymore.
No, the economy is in the places where the crafters craft. Standing in Hawkers, one can see the bustle of 100+ crafters making thier wares, a crowd of another 100+ browsing thier shop, yelling out for goods and services they need, the crafters are shouting out to the crowd with items they are selling. The economy in FFXIV is becoming what you would find in a real world market economy. A trip down to your local China Town market and you will see the same thing, French Quarter shops, Farmers Market, thats where FFXIV economy is.
This review has missed the head of the nail by miles from what is in the game right now. All they did in this review is tell how they didnt' have a good experience in thier short and limited test of it, thats all. And they went out of thier way, as most have so far, to leave out any good points, and bend and twist whatever they can to further thier view of how the feel it is. Its a 99% story of how they didnt like the interface and felt the entire game must be broken because of it lack of guidance.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I agree and I found the entire review to be very immature. The was also no mention of grouping, linkshells or crafting leve's.
I really wonder how long was spent in game to spew this review out.
LOL, ok, let us put the map into laymens terms for you,..no wait, they will, "The maddening part is that the game never tells you, even in the goddamn manual, that these keys have this very important function. "But even if you figure that out, the map is still a bitch to use." That is a hint...ok?
Surely you jest, 3 well known game sites address the issues of FF14 and the fanboi's have the gull to respond by "This review has missed the head of the nail by miles from what is in the game right now." You guys are just going to have to come up with something better than that. As more reviews come out what are you going to respond with? "Oh, s0-and-so game site produces poor reviews?" Wait, that was already said in the last review. The conspiracy theory of "get FF14" was done after tlhe first review hit the internet. My strongest recommendation is to buckle down, why? Because it looks like the rest of the reviews are going to be the same.
I wasn't commenting about the other reviews, I was commenting about this one. You know the one on this thread in particular. As for other reviews there's really nothing to say until they come out. This particular review is just garbage though, positive or negative I really hope other reviewers can do better than this.
Other reviewers did just as good as this, if not better. One said review had the director on video that says the same thing...facts by any other reviewer are still facts. One can only hide from them for so long...or so many reviews in this case. THAT IS A HINT.
I suppose their denial that the game is incomplete, and honestly has no obvious direction for improvement, is more powerful than logic?
I honestly wondered if the rumors of the fanboism were true.
Takes a brave man to go down with a sinking ship when there's an abundance of lifeboats availiable. I dare say it's a symptom of madness.
Here's a hint since you like those so much.....
I wasn't commenting about the other reviews, I was commenting about this one. You know the one on this thread in particular. As for the other reviews there's really nothing to say until they come out. This particular review is just garbage though, positive or negative I really hope other reviewers can do better than this.
If I felt the need to comment on the other reviews that were already released I'd be on their threads since they each have their own. This review... this one here that the OP posted.... the reason for this thread to have been created is garbage.
Is that hint enough for you?
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/guide/basis01.html
Any more dumb uninformed statements??
Ok lemme guess now its" how could i know i can click on theis huge ass Loadstone Link when i log into the game and i get all the infos i lack the skills to learn by myself" am i right??
Yeah i am sure i am right that's prolly the next excuse for players beeing too lazy to actuall read the manual.
I do understand the game has many flaws but ppls at least be fair and dont drag your lazyness into it only course its different than u r used to is no excuse for u not to read the manual.
My point is if u never played an MMO before u would not know what to do no matter if u play FF14 or another game u would do good to read a manual.So now u all believe it has to play the same way than all other games and u dont even consider the possibility of u having to read and think differently so the first thing u do is shout fire and claim it doesn't work when in fact its u that doesn't work.
Bull Fucking Shit. I went from no mmo epxeriance and I mean none to downloading the EVE trial years back and guess what? I understood everything that was needed for me to enjoy the game after the OMG tutorial. I am sorry but if EVE is more accesible than FF14 that means FF14 way of taking you into the game is shit. If you have to leave the game to learn about the game that means the game is shit. Hell choose any game that is currently out and I gurantee you it is better designed than FF. Be it Darkfall or Ultima Online every other game out there no matter how complex has done a better job of introducing the player to gameplay mechanics than FF14. Games are about immersion not going to google to read on the most basic of things becouse the game fails to inform you or does it in a way that is miles away from adequate
Looks like this particular review I'm seeing a whole lot more agreement the reviewer just seems to be showboating. Regardless, it seems I can no longer say that no professional reviewer has reviewed it at below a 4.0/10.0 anymore. We've got one 2.5.
It is a case of denile Rzep...and I am not talking about a river in Egypt.
Ok 'fanboys' that have critic on one obvious wong negative review from all the others are fanatic? On the other hand what are people that criticice a professional positive review?
lol i agree.
"When you want to equip an item to a particular slot, the game doesn't just list the objects you can choose for that slot but, instead, lists your entire inventory."
You mean the facts like this one here from the Gamespot review? I bet you think thats accurate huh. Truth is, its 100% false, yet another lie, a twist of facts by a professional author to embelish thier viewpoint in order to sell thier story. Or maybe the facts in the Game Trailer review.
""And good luck telling if your buddies are online if they aren't already on your freinds list, which incidentally requires that you add them while in close phisical proximety." (spoken in a slow and deliberate tone to emphasize the issue)
No, no, thats not true either. You dont have to be anywhere near someone to add them to your friends list at all. You just need to type thier name in and its added, period. Guess they added this comment in to drive home thier view of the game, make sure everyone believed them. Oh and lets not forget this statement by the professional author:
"You can put up with it and get by if your irrationally determined."
To drive home the other point, that he believes anyone who would even try and play this game MUST be completely irrational. Now thats professional isn't it.
And on to the Gamespy review, where we get this fact as you put it.
"I'm sure that -- given a year of nonstop patching -- FFXIV will probably be out of beta and acceptably functional. But, barring a complete overhaul of the user interface, the combat, the player interaction mechanics, the progress system, and of the layout of the world itself, FFXIV is unlikely to ever be fun."
I guess they gave an unbiased review of FFXIV huh? Sounds like they must have liked....well...no, there was nothing they liked about this game, even the graphics weren't good enough for this guy. This review didnt' have any blatant lies like the other ones, but thats because it actually contained no facts of anything in it. It wa 95% personal opinion, embelishments, and colorful metaphors galore. Seriously, even the simplest task is a paragraph of negativety for this guy.
"In order to access your retainer after you've gone through the irritating process of purchasing one, you must first find a small, nondescript, bell-like object in the middle of a densely packed room. Once you've located said bell, you must find the proper standing distance to trigger the option to summon your retainer from the main menu. And that's when things start getting stupid."
And you guys call these good reviews full of facts???? I'm sorry, but any review, writen by a so-called professional that contains outright lies in them deserves no serious concideration. If they are willing to alter the truth in order to sell thier story, even if its just once, how can anyone trust what they say in the rest of thier review. If they are willing to bend it once, how about twice, three times?? You all my go ahead and blindly believe what these guys are writing and calling it fact, but its not all fact, so dont make it out to be that way.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Yes, thats the case, but SE's True Believers will never accept that. Its *always* the players fault, for what ever short comings the game may have. (At this point you can cue the standard "If you don't like it go back to WoW!"... ^^). Those that liked 11 are ,likely to be the same people who like 14. SE has a hard core of True Believers that so long as they continue to support them, SE will never change. By the way, that review was rather entertaining.
Yea, thats it, the conspiracy theory strikes again. I see it now, the 4 game site reivews all got togeather and decided, "Hey, this is such a great game, lets just put in bad reviews on it that NO ONE else concurs to so we can trash our name. " Yea thats it, then we get all the people on other game fourm sites to say the same lies. So, we wait until at least ONE game site review scores this game with...what ever you feel is the best score for the game. Ok, I'll buy that, now tell me, what do you think this game should score on a 1-10?