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ShojuShoju Member UncommonPosts: 776

A review of FFXIV from the Ceap Ass Gamer website (happy now Geldon?)

 

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/blog.php?b=17052

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  • geldonyetichgeldonyetich Member Posts: 1,340

    • Posts comprimising solely of a link with nothing to say about that link are generally regarded negatively on any prominant forum.

    • This isn't any kind of professional review, it's a review somebody wrote on their blog on the Cheap Ass Gamer website. Anyone can sign up and get a blog like that right now for free.

    If we're posting blog posts as commentary on Final Fantasy XIV, I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.  I hope I dont' get slammed for "advertisement" for posting that, though... I don't even make any ad revenue off of it (though not for want of trying).

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by geldonyetich

    • Posts comprimising solely of a link with nothing to say about that link are generally regarded negatively on any prominant forum.

    • This isn't any kind of professional review, it's a review somebody wrote on their blog on the Cheap Ass Gamer website. Anyone can sign up and get a blog like that right now for free.

    If we're posting blog posts as commentary on Final Fantasy XIV, I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.  I hope I dont' get slammed for "advertisement" for posting that, though... I don't even make any ad revenue off of it.

    The CCC review was written by a freelance writer who writes for political blogs.... so does that mean it's not a professional review?

    Cheap Ass Gamer felt it worthy enough to call it a review.

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • geldonyetichgeldonyetich Member Posts: 1,340

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    • Posts comprimising solely of a link with nothing to say about that link are generally regarded negatively on any prominant forum.

    • This isn't any kind of professional review, it's a review somebody wrote on their blog on the Cheap Ass Gamer website. Anyone can sign up and get a blog like that right now for free.

    If we're posting blog posts as commentary on Final Fantasy XIV, I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.  I hope I dont' get slammed for "advertisement" for posting that, though... I don't even make any ad revenue off of it.

    The CCC review was written by a freelance writer who writes for political blogs.... so does that mean it's not a professional review?

    Cheap Ass Gamer felt it worthy enough to call it a review.

    Technically speaking, I did the freelancer writer gig for a now-defunct professional gaming site ventue in the past.  It's not that hard to do.  In fact, MMORPG.com itself is one of those sites that will be quite happy to take what you have to write and publish it if it's decently written.  It doesn't hurt them at all - free content is free content.

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by geldonyetich

    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    • Posts comprimising solely of a link with nothing to say about that link are generally regarded negatively on any prominant forum.

    • This isn't any kind of professional review, it's a review somebody wrote on their blog on the Cheap Ass Gamer website. Anyone can sign up and get a blog like that right now for free.

    If we're posting blog posts as commentary on Final Fantasy XIV, I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.  I hope I dont' get slammed for "advertisement" for posting that, though... I don't even make any ad revenue off of it.

    The CCC review was written by a freelance writer who writes for political blogs.... so does that mean it's not a professional review?

    Cheap Ass Gamer felt it worthy enough to call it a review.

    Technically speaking, I did the freelancer writer gig for a now-defunct professional gaming site ventue in the past.  It's not that hard to do.  In fact, MMORPG.com itself is one of those sites that will be quite happy to take what you have to write and publish it if it's decently written.  It doesn't hurt them at all - free content is free content.

    Nice dodge...

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • ShojuShoju Member UncommonPosts: 776

    Originally posted by geldonyetich




    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

  • geldonyetichgeldonyetich Member Posts: 1,340

    Originally posted by Shoju

    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseur, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy, that's what makes them unusual.

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by geldonyetich

    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    I am quite certain that no matter how 'bored of the same old' someone is, no one would eat a truffle stuffed with crap and love it for the texture... I am positive that the one thing they would notice is the crap....

    You, sir, have totally lost it...

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • ParadoxyParadoxy Member Posts: 786

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    Is it me or he just admitted  that he likes to eat shit?

    Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?


    Originally posted by Arcken

    To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
    Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by Paradoxy

    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    Is it me or he just admitted  that he likes to eat shit?

    Quite certain he just admitted that he does enjoy crap....

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • geldonyetichgeldonyetich Member Posts: 1,340

    Originally posted by Paradoxy

    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    Is it me or he just admitted  that he likes to eat shit?

    If you're determined to find a way to interpret me in the absolute worst way, then I will definately appear to express a love of eating shit sooner or later.

    I don't ask for much.  I just want you guys to give me the benefit of the doubt that what I write makes sense, and you might just have to try a little harder to understand how.

    Until then, it seems further explaination on my part will be futile.

  • ShojuShoju Member UncommonPosts: 776

    Originally posted by geldonyetich

    Originally posted by Paradoxy


    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    Is it me or he just admitted  that he likes to eat shit?

    If you're determined to find a way to interpret me in the absolute worst way, then I will definately appear to express a love of eating shit sooner or later.

    I don't ask for much.  I just want you guys to give me the benefit of the doubt that what I write makes sense, and you might just have to try a little harder to understand how.

    Until then, it seems further explaination on my part will be futile.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

     

    Seriously.

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by Shoju

    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Paradoxy


    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    Is it me or he just admitted  that he likes to eat shit?

    If you're determined to find a way to interpret me in the absolute worst way, then I will definately appear to express a love of eating shit sooner or later.

    I don't ask for much.  I just want you guys to give me the benefit of the doubt that what I write makes sense, and you might just have to try a little harder to understand how.

    Until then, it seems further explaination on my part will be futile.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

     

    Seriously.

    ^ This.

    It's not us, it's you.

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • geldonyetichgeldonyetich Member Posts: 1,340

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Paradoxy


    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    Is it me or he just admitted  that he likes to eat shit?

    If you're determined to find a way to interpret me in the absolute worst way, then I will definately appear to express a love of eating shit sooner or later.

    I don't ask for much.  I just want you guys to give me the benefit of the doubt that what I write makes sense, and you might just have to try a little harder to understand how.

    Until then, it seems further explaination on my part will be futile.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

    Seriously.

    ^ This.

    It's not us, it's you.

    Hey, whatever excuse you've got to make.  I'd like to say I'm just really bad at communication, but it's more like I've come to understand that when people are determined to disagree with you, it's easy to invent reasons to disagree with you forever.  You want to understand what I'm talking about?  Try flipping that brain bit from disagreeing to agreeing with me and see if you can figure out how what I wrote works.

    That means going all the way back here:

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    And realizing what I wrote was that this is a game best appreciated by those who recognize the flaws in the game as being secondary to what the game delivers.

  • TsukieUTsukieU Member Posts: 559

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Paradoxy


    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    Is it me or he just admitted  that he likes to eat shit?

    If you're determined to find a way to interpret me in the absolute worst way, then I will definately appear to express a love of eating shit sooner or later.

    I don't ask for much.  I just want you guys to give me the benefit of the doubt that what I write makes sense, and you might just have to try a little harder to understand how.

    Until then, it seems further explaination on my part will be futile.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

     

    Seriously.

    ^ This.

    It's not us, it's you.

     

    If you had actually read the article...you'd realize that you just called yourself ignorant...

    Not sure if the irony was intentional or not.

    Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.

  • skoreanime2skoreanime2 Member Posts: 3

    Amazing.

    People who think XIV is like a Royal dinner party where only the "refined" can understand and enjoy such errr, quality.

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by TsukieU

    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Paradoxy


    Originally posted by fyerwall


    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by Shoju


    Originally posted by geldonyetich





    I betcha you'd find my entry more entertaining.

    Um.....no.  Unless by entertaining you mean entries filled with self-gratifying hyperbole such as;

    "In the end, Final Fantasy XIV is a game best appreciated by gaming connoisseurs: those who have a taste for fine quality in the details of their games, to the point where they're willing to overlook the kinds of flaws remaining as trivial in comparison to what is being delivered."

    I doubt that food connoisseurs (or any 'connoisseurs' for that matter) would overlook flaws in a meal/product just because the overall package that it was presented in looked nice.  If the finest truffle in the world had a piece of shit in it, it would still taste like it had shit in it regardless of the quality of the truffle it was presented in.

    And the connoisseurs would love it simply because they're bored of the same old mushroms and find the unique textrure of this defiled truffle to be out of this world.

    If there's one thing you can count on in a true connoisseurs, they won't have the same tastes as the average guy.

    Wait... what?!

    Is it me or he just admitted  that he likes to eat shit?

    If you're determined to find a way to interpret me in the absolute worst way, then I will definately appear to express a love of eating shit sooner or later.

    I don't ask for much.  I just want you guys to give me the benefit of the doubt that what I write makes sense, and you might just have to try a little harder to understand how.

    Until then, it seems further explaination on my part will be futile.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

     

    Seriously.

    ^ This.

    It's not us, it's you.

     

    If you had actually read the article...you'd realize that you just called yourself ignorant...

    Not sure if the irony was intentional or not.

    It might appear that way, but if you read what he wrote and how he backed himself up you would clearly see that the conclusion we came to is he is willing to "eat shit so long as its a change of pace", to which he then tries to spin by making us sound like we are not trying hard enough to understand him. 

    Therefore we are not calling ourselves ignorant because we came to the most logical conclusion given the context of his remark.

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • VaonVaon Member Posts: 2

     

    You can dress up shit any way you want, but when your costumer bites into it, you can't hide what it really is. Back on topic, the review seemed well researched. sounds like the dude really played it. Unlike some of the posted reviews for the game. 


  • geldonyetichgeldonyetich Member Posts: 1,340

    Originally posted by skoreanime2

    Amazing.

    People who think XIV is like a Royal dinner party where only the "refined" can understand and enjoy such errr, quality.

    The trouble with this analogy is it makes it look like "unusually experienced gamers who can overcome difficult interfaces with ease and happen to be bored enough with conventional offerings of the average casual-friendly title finding what Final Fantasy XIV does is unique, interesting godsend" = "ONLY SNOBS LIKE THIS GAME."

    It's a thin line, I know, but it's not arrogance if it's true.

  • BTrayaLBTrayaL Member UncommonPosts: 624

    The bit about Dunning-Kruger was priceless =))

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  • vanderghastvanderghast Member UncommonPosts: 326

    Ya know, at this point i really think that geldon might just be a troll who's having a blast defending a crappy game with a bunch of absolutely ridiculous statements that make zero sense at all and aren't even remotely founded in reality just to get a rise out of people and keep baiting them into beleiving he actually likes this game.

     

    I just can't beleive any sane person with even a modicum of taste in games would go to such lengths to defend and crusade for such an empty game devoid of any interesting and compelling content, or even redeeming gameplay.  I just can't beleive the schtick anymore, it's gotta be a troll.

  • skoreanime2skoreanime2 Member Posts: 3

    Originally posted by geldonyetich

    Originally posted by skoreanime2

    Amazing.

    People who think XIV is like a Royal dinner party where only the "refined" can understand and enjoy such errr, quality.

    The trouble with this analogy is it makes it look like "unusually experienced gamers who can overcome difficult interfaces with ease and happen to be bored enough with conventional offerings of the average casual-friendly title finding what Final Fantasy XIV does is unique" = "ONLY SNOBS LIKE THIS GAME."

    It's a thin line, I know, but it's not arrogance if it's true.

    Only the ones pushing like it's the second coming of Jesus are snobs.  There are plenty of people who enjoy the game while understanding and accepting the game has many, many faults. 

    XIV is like a classy party at the moment, mundane with food cut into bite sizes.  Fun to dabble in once in awhile, but I much rather go to a casual one with buddies and some real food.

  • geldonyetichgeldonyetich Member Posts: 1,340

    Originally posted by skoreanime2

    Originally posted by geldonyetich


    Originally posted by skoreanime2

    Amazing.

    People who think XIV is like a Royal dinner party where only the "refined" can understand and enjoy such errr, quality.

    The trouble with this analogy is it makes it look like "unusually experienced gamers who can overcome difficult interfaces with ease and happen to be bored enough with conventional offerings of the average casual-friendly title finding what Final Fantasy XIV does is unique" = "ONLY SNOBS LIKE THIS GAME."

    It's a thin line, I know, but it's not arrogance if it's true.

    Only the ones pushing like it's the second coming of Jesus are snobs.  There are plenty of people who enjoy the game while understanding and accepting the game has many, many faults. 

    XIV is like a classy party at the moment, mundane with food cut into bite sizes.  Fun to dabble in once in awhile, but I much rather go to a casual one with buddies and some real food.

    And you know, there's nothing wrong with that.  It only when people crash the the classy party and start throwing catcalls at all the silly hoity-toity people and their terrible taste in entertainment that I feel a bit put out.  Not that there's any chance I could get them to stop when the medium of communication is an Internet forum, but you do know I'm going to get all puffed up, twirl my walrus beard and pop my molocle bellowing some imperilous, "Now See Here, Go Sirs, This Is Most Inappropriate!"

  • VaonVaon Member Posts: 2

    A classy party that most people have walked, if not ran out of. These food statements are just digging the grave deeper, doubt anyone here would even know how the "snobish" lifestyle is like, and if they did, i doubt they would compare it to a mmo game release. 

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775

    Originally posted by geldonyetich

    Originally posted by skoreanime2

    Amazing.

    People who think XIV is like a Royal dinner party where only the "refined" can understand and enjoy such errr, quality.

    The trouble with this analogy is it makes it look like "unusually experienced gamers who can overcome difficult interfaces with ease and happen to be bored enough with conventional offerings of the average casual-friendly title finding what Final Fantasy XIV does is unique, interesting godsend" = "ONLY SNOBS LIKE THIS GAME."

    It's a thin line, I know, but it's not arrogance if it's true.

    I think where things went wrong is when you tried to say that FFXIV appeals to gaming connoisseurs, those that have a taste for fine quality....

    The problem is, the quality of the product in question is the problem. Even fans acknowledge this, well at least rational ones. If something has numerous problems and even those that like it are hoping that it one day gets fixed, then that implies that the quality isn't currently there. 

     

    The "Gaming Connoisseurs" have steered clear of FFXIV for good reason. What you have are people that enjoy the game even though the overall quality is severely lacking. 

    Which is fine, but I wouldn't try passing it off as something else lol. 

  • ShojuShoju Member UncommonPosts: 776

    Originally posted by geldonyetich

      Try flipping that brain bit from disagreeing to agreeing with me and see if you can figure out how what I wrote works.

    It might work for you (and it obviously does), but what your rhetoric essentially amounts to is forcing yourself to ignore a games flaws in the hopes that they may be eventually be fixed and that is not something that will work for everyone.  And nor should it.  Ignoring the negatives and only accenting/promoting the positives is more than likely one of the reasons the game launched in the state that it did.  The beta forums were full of SE apologists who shot down anyone who posted any criticism about the game and its systems.  We were constantly told that the game was fine and to go back to WOW, that we didn't 'get it' when it was very clear to many that the game obviously had more than a few problems.

    Now I don't really care if you wish to subscribe to your 'gaming connoisseur' beliefs in private or on your blog, but on a site like this the way your are representing the game borders on deceptive.  You can like/love/support a game and still make people aware of the problems that are inherent within the game without trying to gloss over them as 'trivial' and being something that should be ignored simply because you believe that there is potential for the game to be better down the road.  The majority of people looking for a new game to play want to know the truth about how a game works now, not hear a fanciful version of what might be, especially when that potential that you believe exists may never ever eventuate.

    Your continued focus on the positives (as you see them) and the continued derision of those who have had negative experiences have done little except polarize the FFXIV forum in a negative manner.  Sure the trolls have to shoulder their share of the blame, but you seem to go out of your way to provoke the community here with your unyielding stance that you are somehow superior to others here.  And in reality, you are just a gamer schmuck like the rest of us.

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