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Mortal Onlines Epic Patch - The good and the bad

thorppesthorppes Member Posts: 452

Cons/bugs;

- Shadows can be too dark with the new graphics.

- Taming and pets are disabled.

- The server currently lacks stability

- Other players are seen as floating from time to time

- Non-agressive mobs although harder to kill do not seem to ultilise their AI 100%

- Sounds are messed up

- No 64-bit yet

 

Pros;

- Combat is extremely fluid, warping/lagging fixed.

- Overhead swings, weapon balancing, recalculation of weight / material effects have made combat much more interesting

- AI from aggressive mobs can provide a challenge even for veteran players, extremely responsive, don't miss so much, give a good chase often outpacing players on foot. ect.

- Performance increases

- Huge graphics overall making the game stunning, trees all redone, some areas redone, speedtree in, new lighting and shadows

- Flash, seen in the new library looks well made and is very functional.

- Mounts are now back at proper speed!

- Screendragging, instalogging fixed

- Development will now be easier for the devs with the new engine update

- Various exploits fixed once and for all

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653

    Some things to add:

     

    Horses turn grey when you dismount

    Horses explode

    Mobs that stand still and don't react while you kill them

    Lag and/or desync between client and server

    Walking on water

    Resistance swimming is broken

    MachineGun Bows

    Mobs warp through you and hit from behind

    Memory leaks in the dungeon

     

     

    PROS:

     

    People are generally liking some of the new graphics

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  • crysentcrysent Member UncommonPosts: 841

    I logged in - yes graphics were very nice and that was about it.

    Mobs still screwed up.  AI a complete joke still, most mobs unresponsive, espcially if you shoot them with a bow.

    Weapons still generally not balanced

    Server crashing repetedly, if game release is any indication we can expect 2-4 weeks for a real fix.

    Overall - great graphics upgrade but most other things still suck.

     

    I'm just not overly impressed - graphics are such a small part of the game to me - and again all sorts of problems.  Of course after a patch is released you can expect problems, but not on the level they seem to constantly have.  Server stability has been basically a continous issue since release.  It's just gotten ridiculous - I held onto my subscription because I keep hopeing, probably foolishly this games potential will be unlocked - but its not gonna happen.

  • username509username509 Member CommonPosts: 635

    Keeping in mind that these cons will probably be hot fixed tomorrow or this weekend.

    Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!

  • thorppesthorppes Member Posts: 452

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Some things to add:

     

    Horses turn grey when you dismount

    Horses explode

    Mobs that stand still and don't react while you kill them

    Lag and/or desync between client and server

    Walking on water

    Resistance swimming is broken

    MachineGun Bows

    Mobs warp through you and hit from behind

    Memory leaks in the dungeon

     

     

    PROS:

     

    People are generally liking some of the new graphics

    All the issues you mentioned there are in the OP.  Except for the memory leak. Machine gun bows are not OP, longer draw time combined with close range and the meele damage increase.

  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    Originally posted by username509

    Keeping in mind that these cons will probably be hot fixed tomorrow or this weekend.

    Heheh, that's cute.

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  • cirsyndiccirsyndic Member UncommonPosts: 261

    I've heard last night there is a new/old-beta dupe method in-game, can anyone confirm?

  • username509username509 Member CommonPosts: 635

    Originally posted by eyeswideopen

    Originally posted by username509

    Keeping in mind that these cons will probably be hot fixed tomorrow or this weekend.

    Heheh, that's cute.

    Here's todays hotpatch that I mentioned last night.

     

    We have had some issues with taming and pets that caused instability on the server that forced us to disable it.



    We have now solved that and are patching the server. (no client patch)

    Pets should now be useable again, 

    dismounting a pet should also keep its blue status.



    We also had an issue with the login server that is also supposed to be fixed now.



    Also a note on those who gave us feedback on that melee now is to weak. You still have to use a new weapon to notice the buff on melee weapons, as in a new crafted weapons since the old client to notice the difference.





    It will take a moment untill the changes goes live. 



    Thank you.

     

     

     

    I'm sure they'll be more hotpatches throughout next week.  

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  • LonewolfLonewolf Member UncommonPosts: 252

    Heeeeeeeeeeeeey wait wait WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE!!

     

    Horse explode!?!?!?! Holy CRAPOLA that sounds awesome anyone Youtube it please?

  • torn51torn51 Member Posts: 79

     

    Originally posted by Lonewolf

    Heeeeeeeeeeeeey wait wait WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE!!

     

    Horse explode!?!?!?! Holy CRAPOLA that sounds awesome anyone Youtube it please?

     I'm all for horse explosions too..........I'd like to see that  :)

  • MOstyleMOstyle Member Posts: 33

    Originally posted by Lonewolf

    Heeeeeeeeeeeeey wait wait WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE!!

     

    Horse explode!?!?!?! Holy CRAPOLA that sounds awesome anyone Youtube it please?

    i have a horse and after ther server side patch they doesnt explode anymore :P

  • MOstyleMOstyle Member Posts: 33

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Some things to add:

     

    Horses turn grey when you dismount

    fixed

    Horses explode

    fixed

    Mobs that stand still and don't react while you kill them

    partially

    Lag and/or desync between client and server

    right

    Walking on water

    wrong, that is the lag issue

    Resistance swimming is broken

    right, but really it is so necessary to mention it? o.O

    MachineGun Bows

    wrong, machinegun got with this build a nerf

    Mobs warp through you and hit from behind

    wrong

    Memory leaks in the dungeon

    wrong, i was in the spider cave near MorinKhur and i was running with dx9 with 50fps

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    PROS:

     

    People are generally liking some of the new graphics

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653

    Originally posted by MOstyle

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Some things to add:

     

    Horses turn grey when you dismount

    fixed

    Horses explode

    fixed

    Mobs that stand still and don't react while you kill them

    partially

    Lag and/or desync between client and server

    right

    Walking on water

    wrong, that is the lag issue

    Resistance swimming is broken

    right, but really it is so necessary to mention it? o.O

    MachineGun Bows

    wrong, machinegun got with this build a nerf

    Mobs warp through you and hit from behind

    wrong

    Memory leaks in the dungeon

    wrong, i was in the spider cave near MorinKhur and i was running with dx9 with 50fps

    [Mod Edit]

     

     

    PROS:

     

    People are generally liking some of the new graphics

     Every item I listed was also listed on the official Bug Tracker.  So perhaps you didn't see them... but others did and reported them.  Also.. as of last night  the bug tracker was erased due to the long list of bugs there.  It's filling up again.  I won't list them.. feel free to check it out for yourself.

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  • MOstyleMOstyle Member Posts: 33

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by MOstyle


    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

     

     Every item I listed was also listed on the official Bug Tracker.  So perhaps you didn't see them... but others did and reported them.  Also.. as of last night  the bug tracker was erased due to the long list of bugs there.  It's filling up again.  I won't list them.. feel free to check it out for yourself.

    no time to check it for myself, beside of my 1hr playtime per day i mostly dont noticed all of them. But good to know you take  an eye of the bug-tracker.

     

    but you should notice this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vls0b-xaX-U

    and now proof me how it is possible that i have not one memory leak?

  • username509username509 Member CommonPosts: 635

    Originally posted by MOstyle

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by MOstyle

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

     

     Every item I listed was also listed on the official Bug Tracker.  So perhaps you didn't see them... but others did and reported them.  Also.. as of last night  the bug tracker was erased due to the long list of bugs there.  It's filling up again.  I won't list them.. feel free to check it out for yourself.

    no time to check it for myself, beside of my 1hr playtime per day i mostly dont noticed all of them. But good to know you take  an eye of the bug-tracker.

     

    but you should notice this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vls0b-xaX-U

    and now proof me how it is possible that i have not one memory leak?

    Every item you listed was patched in a hotpatch or never existed at all.  

    This was a great patch for Mortal Online.  I've had fun the past 4 months and I'm sure I'll have fun the next 4....

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  • DLangleyDLangley Member Posts: 1,407

    Let's cut out the baiting guys.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653

    Originally posted by MOstyle

     

    but you should notice this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vls0b-xaX-U

    and now proof me how it is possible that i have not one memory leak?

     I do not understand your question....   you linked a video that was less than 2 minutes in length.  A memory leak is just that... a leak.. it happens over time...

     

    Glad you enjoyed your run through the cave though.  That's why we play games.. to enjoy.

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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150

    So far this has been my experience. . the patcher stops working at a certain point and you have to go into the patch folder and manually download the patches using a torrent program.

     

    This would not be so bad if they weren't all so small. . I have to download and restart the patcher reach time.   The forums suggest that this is only for about 4-5 patches with a fresh install.

     

    Once I get in game I will let you know how things seem compared to the last time I played.  It has been awhile so I am hoping to note some major differences.

     

    Also pets currently can't be controlled.

     

     

    EDIT:  It was 5 patches for me. . patcher seems to be working fine now (EDIT 2: nope. . still issues)

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    Should be able to log in tomorrow if there are no more problems.

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  • MOstyleMOstyle Member Posts: 33

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by MOstyle

     

     I do not understand your question....   you linked a video that was less than 2 minutes in length.  A memory leak is just that... a leak.. it happens over time...

     

    Glad you enjoyed your run through the cave though.  That's why we play games.. to enjoy.

    ah i see you never had experience in one of those dungeon before the patch and definatly dont know how horrible it was?

    i was 30 min. in this cave to explore it, why you think i was able to find it so fast. Before the engine patch you instantly got the memory leak by entering the cave. the only solution was to run away from the cave and to start the game new to get the perfomance back to play smooth again. that was memory leak.

    but now im able to enter and leave the cave without any leak issue or fps drops. but that is not the point, you just point something what is totally wrong.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653

    Originally posted by MOstyle

    but now im able to enter and leave the cave without any leak issue or fps drops. but that is not the point, you just point something what is totally wrong.

     I am glad it is now working for you.   For the record... because something works on your computer with your settings does NOT mean it works for others.   This is why they report things like that on the bug tracker.

     

    This is why you often see things that say "fixed XXX" in a patchnote but then login and you may still have the issue.  It was fixed on a test system, but on other configurations or settings it still happens.  Bug tracking and fixing in an MMO can be quite tricky.

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  • MOstyleMOstyle Member Posts: 33

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by MOstyle

    but now im able to enter and leave the cave without any leak issue or fps drops. but that is not the point, you just point something what is totally wrong.

     I am glad it is now working for you.   For the record... because something works on your computer with your settings does NOT mean it works for others.   This is why they report things like that on the bug tracker.

     

    yes it works quite well for me, im just wondering why you take someones problem (maybe because of his rig) and trying to apply his problem to the whole community.

     

    This is why you often see things that say "fixed XXX" in a patchnote but then login and you may still have the issue.  It was fixed on a test system, but on other configurations or settings it still happens.  Bug tracking and fixing in an MMO can be quite tricky.

     

    offtopic?

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653

    Originally posted by Aethaeryn


     


    Should be able to log in tomorrow if there are no more problems.

     Look forward to your updates.  You've shown a fair mind about many issues in the past so I'm interested in seem your take on the MO2 patch.  In particular I'd be interested in your take on population.  I know they were anticipating a huge spike in pop when the patch released but most of the screens and videos I see are either empty or have 1 or 2 people around.   Now that more folks have been able to DL the patch, and the server seems to be a bit more stable.. I'd like to get your take on the population compared to back when you last played.

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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Aethaeryn



     


    Should be able to log in tomorrow if there are no more problems.

     Look forward to your updates.  You've shown a fair mind about many issues in the past so I'm interested in seem your take on the MO2 patch.  In particular I'd be interested in your take on population.  I know they were anticipating a huge spike in pop when the patch released but most of the screens and videos I see are either empty or have 1 or 2 people around.   Now that more folks have been able to DL the patch, and the server seems to be a bit more stable.. I'd like to get your take on the population compared to back when you last played.

     

    I know that forums are not a way to tell. . but I noticed a spike in the forum use after the patch. . people like me trying to find out what is going on.  The most I saw though was 72 in the general.   This is very high compared to usual traffic (even after a patch) . .but nothing compared to beta numbers.

     

    As an aside. . I still have to manually download the torrent files.  I am sure someone has a workaround on the boards and I will look. . but again. . this isn't going to help the population much.  I always download a game before I hit the purchase button to get that extra days worth of time etc. out of my sub (sad really). . . if I hadn't enjoyed parts of the game I likely would have stopped at this point and not bothered.  I would consider it a reflection of the game itself (correctly or not).

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239

    Originally posted by Aethaeryn

     

    As an aside. . I still have to manually download the torrent files.  I am sure someone has a workaround on the boards and I will look. . but again. . this isn't going to help the population much.

     

    They still havent got the patching issues fixed???

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by Aethaeryn

     

    As an aside. . I still have to manually download the torrent files.  I am sure someone has a workaround on the boards and I will look. . but again. . this isn't going to help the population much.

     

    They still havent got the patching issues fixed???

     

    lol

    Yes they did!!!

     


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    my download stopped all together what the hell do i do now?


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  • elvigyelvigy Member CommonPosts: 249

    Originally posted by Lonewolf

    Heeeeeeeeeeeeey wait wait WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE!!

     

    Horse explode!?!?!?! Holy CRAPOLA that sounds awesome anyone Youtube it please?

    OK, yeah, I absolutely had to see it as well. So a little Googling got me to this. It's not as gory as I thought, but I loled-

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