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I mean I came here to see what this site had to say about the game. I've came here in the past to see long time reviewers of the genre give their opinions on matters in the game. I always found there to be an optimistic take on a game's review here, I think I recall APB even getting a decent score.
Is this game just really that bad? You guys are going to wait even longer to review it? Maybe 6 months down the line?
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article here on it :
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/446/feature/4614/A-First-Look.html
It would be better to review it 6 months down the line, cuz i plan to play it even longer than that.
We do have one in the works, but we are trying not to review MMOs too quickly after they come out, and want to give our reviewers time to actually play the game. That's why we released a first look preview, so that you could get an idea of the early gameplay without as unfairly assigning a score to it.
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PcGamer, Gametrailers, GameSpot and about a dozen other big name sites already have the review up.
You just have to hit up google and you will find a bunch of them and can read in vast detail.
"I'm not cheap I'm incredibly subconsciously financially optimized"
"The worst part of censorship is ------------------"
Not to mention, SE specifically asked sites to hold off on their reviews for at least a month. I'm glad that many chose to ignore that request, but perhaps MMORPG.com is obliging them.
Of course, at this point SE is probably hoping nobody ever reviews this game again.
What about consumers who have used this site to make a decision?
I mean is it mmorpg.com's general consensus to wait? APB got a pretty quick review, people bought it, and it got canned. Isn't there a certain bit of journalistic responsibility here?
I think the month marker is well passed as well.
Well reviewing this game is a no win situation. Give it a bad review on release and you are accused of joining in the "feeding frenzy". Give it a good review on release and you are the guy on the outside of the bell curve that looks like a complete moron to the majority.
The most strategic way to review this game is exactly what they are doing by waiting for a while. Then there are more ways to avoid blowback by each of the previous opinions. There really isn't a good way to approach it though, it's a sad situation all around. Particularly for the players. The best way to avoid any backsplatter is probably to just give it a 50% or something that isn't that offensive either way, then you just excuse yourself from the topic entirely. If people decide to buy it after that it's completely on them as no real suggestion would be given.
The whole point of reviews are to help potential buyers decide if it's worth it. In theory.
"I'm not cheap I'm incredibly subconsciously financially optimized"
"The worst part of censorship is ------------------"
Honestly, the longer they play it the worse the score will be. At least to me, this game was kind of fun after I only played it a bit. It's not until you actually start to put the hours in that you realize what it is.
I dont think the reviews matter any more. I think everyone has already made up their mind about the game, one way or another.
Well why review any MMORPG then when they come out?
GW2 is already being praised as the second coming of WoW. TOR is being crap-panned as the second coming of WoW. APB, if they had waited to review, wouldn't even had been on the shelves. Thanks to this site I avoided Champions Online and tried LOTRO f2p.
Just why such hit and miss coverage of games? In particular this one.
Not to pick nits, but GW2 is more the anti-WoW.
Oderint, dum metuant.
I think he just means that both TOR and GW2 are probably going to be huge hits. I would tend to agree with that.
As far as what I explained for a "safe review" I didn't say that I agree with that, just that if you are smart you can understand and see through the games that media play. Not that it will happen. I was as surprised as everyone else that almost all the media in the world gave FF14 such honest scores. Granted, they didn't have much choice considering the state of the game. Give a man a knife and watch him slit his own throat with it, but only if he's suicidal.
"I'm not cheap I'm incredibly subconsciously financially optimized"
"The worst part of censorship is ------------------"
SE is losing money, yes, no doubt about it. But you have to consider, it took FFXI half a year to break even, and even longer to start making proffits.
SE is fully prepared for this, and is not going to go out of business like APB.
Its been 5 weeks since the CE was released and since nothing has changed from Closed Beta to Open Beta to 2 seperate releases I think its safe to say there is no possible way to score it unfairly.
As its looking now nothing will change in the coming weeks. I dont even expect a huge patch til mid Nov at the very earliest.
Is this site going to add a catagory for 'paid-beta' games then?
It's honestly confusing. Sure it'd be kicking a dead horse if you were honest about it, but seeing it just swept under a rug seems odd.
More like a year and a half to break even. This says May 02 release, and first profit was Dec 03 which is around the time NA pc launch players would have payed for their first months subscriptions.
I feel so sorry for the staffer that's forced to play this game for any long length of time. He's going to be completely useless for any future reviews, extended exposure to FFXIV is like getting a frontal lobotomy
I guess this isn't too bad but I've always objected to the idea that mmorpg's can't or shouldn't be reviewed upon release, these games largely follow the same pattern as console and offline rpg's so as long as the reviewer see's all the systems related to a game then they should be reviewed at that point. Or possibly simply stating till when they actually played the game could help.
My experience though is that if a game sucks in the first ten or so levels it sucks beyond that and vice versa, the only real exception I've seen is with AOC but I really don't think as many accused them of that they intended the build they used to come off as if they were out to fool reviewers or anything like that and most of the reviews I recall even mentioned how things trailed off after Tortage.
At any rate still glad to here the review was held off for reasons other than because SE asked people to.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Where'd you get the notion that they didn't hold off the review becuase they were asked to?
I got that they agreed to comply from Stradden's answer.
Maybe they try to avoid this