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  • DanbaccaDanbacca Member UncommonPosts: 247

    Originally posted by thorppes

    Lets be bloody honest!

    The QA guy needed firing for a LONG LONG TIME NOW. Letting all these bugs go through? Quality assurence fail.

     assurAnce.

    Fixed.

    Thanks,

    Your friendly Thread Quality Assurance guy.

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    http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8506/trololoc.jpg

     

    Images speak more then a thousand words. :p

  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239

    Originally posted by cirsyndic

    http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8506/trololoc.jpg

     

    Images speak more then a thousand words. :p

    (fixed link)  http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8506/trololoc.jpg

    Now thats funny...

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  • megaraxmegarax Member UncommonPosts: 269

    lol!

  • kishekishe Member UncommonPosts: 2,012

    Originally posted by thorppes

    Originally posted by HanoverZ


    Originally posted by thorppes

    Lets be bloody honest!

    The QA guy needed firing for a LONG LONG TIME NOW. Letting all these bugs go through? Quality assurence fail.

    Yes, because he's writting all the buggy code. image  image  

     

     

    Wow...just wow

     

     

    You think after testing these things like a Q&A guy does you'd realise bugs are not fixed, new bugs are there and entire cities like to disappear?

     

    It's called CEO saying "I'm writing your paychecks and I say it's ready and fixed!"

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    Omg another time with the "no patchnote" thing? lol

    It was a hotfix trying to fix some bugs.


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    Who are these guys who left and why does it matter?


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    Team members come and go. This is nothing unusual really. Perhaps the only unusual thing is that our dev team is very close to the community so you realize if somebody leaves the team.


    So do you have plans to replace these team members? Can we be expecting some new faces soon?


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    Pockets, really you care so much about patch notes?


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    Who are these guys who left and why does it matter?


    Quality Assurance - Probably left because of constantly being over stepped and his word never listened to with patches being sent out in a raw state; when he said not to. Otherwise fired for letting patches get released in the state where they broke more than they fixed. In reality probability a combination of the two.



    Sound Artist - This one I am not entirley sure of how this story could go. However there have been many disputes inside of SV in terms of the hours put into the game, some people simply cannot dedicate their lives and sleep in the office day in and day out. Hard work alone doesn't always achieve everything.



    All in all; this is an indication that something is going on within SV, whether an indication of the mood of all of the employes, or that heads are starting to roll. So I would expect a change up in the entirety of the Starvault staff all together; with this being just a precursor. To what end this is going; well I hope to something positive, but it's hard to remain that way with everything going on.


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    Thats not what I am commenting about. I could care less what they say in the bug fix notes. Usually whats in the notes isn't fixed or they added new bugs that are not on the list.



    One of the guys who left writes patch notes so hopefully the new guy will do a better job.


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,668

    Wow.. that is turning into an EPIC thread!

    It will be funny if they close/lock that thread after Merlyn posted in it...

     

    Let's see if Thorpey gets his answer.. somehow I doubt it.

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  • BadaboomBadaboom Member UncommonPosts: 2,380

    Darkfall will take you guys back.  Things are looking pretty good on our end.  Sorry that things are not working out for you over there.

  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239

    Originally posted by Badaboom

    Darkfall will take you guys back.  Things are looking pretty good on our end.  Sorry that things are not working out for you over there.

     

    The MO forums have always been more entertaining than the game.

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150

    Originally posted by Badaboom

    Darkfall will take you guys back.  Things are looking pretty good on our end.  Sorry that things are not working out for you over there.

    I am still kind of tossed between the two games.  I like MO and enjoy playing it . . but consistency is also important.  I am not sure I am willing to give MO up yet.  I like the format of the game more. . . but maybe it is better to play something you love 70% as much that you know will be consistent.  

    It could just be that the next time  the CEO rolls out a press release or speaks to investors he will let them know that the person in charge of QA is gone . . . so the missing city thing won't happen again.  Sometimes people get fired or quit on their own to take some heat off the company. . but the fact that SV is not acknowledging it makes it seem a little more likely that he left.

     

    I can't imagine being that guy. . your resume says you did QA on MO. . at least now he can claim that he left because he didn't have enough support etc. 

     

    All speculation though.

     

    EDIT. . man Christian?  Wow. . popular guy.

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  • zevianzevian Member UncommonPosts: 403

    Isnt this the game that just had a patch where the city was missing?

     

    Maybe thats why a QA person left, pretty big oversight.

  • BadaboomBadaboom Member UncommonPosts: 2,380

    Originally posted by Aethaeryn

    Originally posted by Badaboom

    Darkfall will take you guys back.  Things are looking pretty good on our end.  Sorry that things are not working out for you over there.

    I am still kind of tossed between the two games.  I like MO and enjoy playing it . . but consistency is also important.  I am not sure I am willing to give MO up yet.  I like the format of the game more. . . but maybe it is better to play something you love 70% as much that you know will be consistent.  

    It could just be that the next time Henrick rolls out a press release or speaks to investors he will let them know that the person in charge of QA is gone . . . so the missing city thing won't happen again.  Sometimes people get fired or quit on their own to take some heat off the company. . but the fact that SV is not acknowledging it makes it seem a little more likely that he left.

     

    I can't imagine being that guy. . your resume says you did QA on MO. . at least now he can claim that he left because he didn't have enough support etc. 

     

    All speculation though.

    Well by the sounds of things it is probably a good career move.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,668

    Someone linked a post to an Epic Developers forum where there was a post for Starvault looking to hire a world designer.  The best part is that it was posted by the "Patcher Guy" who doesn't even work for StarVault.  The second best part is that it says "No commercial experience required".   You would think that, by now... they would have learned their lesson.

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239

    What are they down to....3 salaried employees now?

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • bunnyhopperbunnyhopper Member CommonPosts: 2,751

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    What are they down to....3 salaried employees now?

    Still more paid employees than paying customers then lol.

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239

    Originally posted by bunnyhopper

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    What are they down to....3 salaried employees now?

    Still more paid employees than paying customers then lol.

    LOL...you owe me a new keyboard!!!  (was eating cereal) image

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  • seabeastseabeast Member Posts: 748

    Originally posted by Hepisodic

    Guess what happen to APB is gunna happen to MO now. It has failed for too long to possibly survive anymore. At least AoC kept some subs. MO got nothing, at most I see only like 100 ppl talking  about how they love/want this game to succeed. 

     

    I wanted to play this yes, but seems too late. They have done too little to save this.

     I do not know, FF fun club still holds the leads for most propable in this area.

  • davmac22davmac22 Member Posts: 283

    This is getting entertaining to say the least

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  • davmac22davmac22 Member Posts: 283

    When you guys make threads / posts about a crazy thread happening on the MO forums... make sure you take a screen shot and stop posting all that copy/paste junk of their entire forum.  Upload the image to imageshack or imgur to keep a backup so it doesnt look like your editing the text...

     

    Like this...

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  • osmundaosmunda Member Posts: 1,087

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    What are they down to....3 salaried employees now?

    If you really want to know, the answer is about 20.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3721960#3721960

  • osmundaosmunda Member Posts: 1,087

    Originally posted by cirsyndic

    Christian was their entire Quality Assurance team (only recently they got a few interns) and largely responsible for the few quality things they implemented with their patches that weren't completely broken.

     

    Not exactly true

     

    Quality assurance ( * employees):

    Christian Hedberg*,  Daniel Backstrom*, Kennie Nilsson, Pontus Almen

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3724648#3724648

    That's from 3 months ago, so I guess it hinges on what you mean by "recently"

  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239

    Originally posted by davmac22

    This is getting entertaining to say the least

    That it is

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,668

    Originally posted by osmunda

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    What are they down to....3 salaried employees now?

    If you really want to know, the answer is about 20.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3721960#3721960

     Not exactly true unless you count unpaid interns..

     

    I count 15 plus the CEO/OWNER on that list you provided (because you have guys listed in white/gold that have left since that post was made)...  and that of course is assuming that others haven''t left.

     

    Normally developers do cut staff after release, but that is because the game is complete and they put it into a low production/maintenance mode.  For SV to lose 20% of their staff so closely following their release.. when even the biggest supporters state that there is a LOT of work left to do... well... I don't think that's a good sign. 

     

    Q3 financials come out on the 4th.. should make an interesting read, although not as interesting as the Q4/ 2010yearly report will be.

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  • AjmagsAjmags Member UncommonPosts: 63

    Originally posted by Badaboom

    Darkfall will take you guys back.  Things are looking pretty good on our end.  Sorry that things are not working out for you over there.

     All 30 of them ? I hope Darkfall can handle the load. MO apparently can't.

    Wait make that 28 I forgot about the 2 that left .

  • cirsyndiccirsyndic Member UncommonPosts: 261

    Originally posted by osmunda

    Originally posted by cirsyndic

    Christian was their entire Quality Assurance team (only recently they got a few interns) and largely responsible for the few quality things they implemented with their patches that weren't completely broken.

     

    Not exactly true

     

    Quality assurance ( * employees):

    Christian Hedberg*,  Daniel Backstrom*, Kennie Nilsson, Pontus Almen

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3724648#3724648

    That's from 3 months ago, so I guess it hinges on what you mean by "recently"

     

    Christian was the one working in-game, Daniel was working the support tickets. So, while Daniel could be QA on paper he's certainly not working in the capacity as one.

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