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WoW Isnt The Best In MMORPG Gaming, But The Best Of Its Kind.
Azzthuras
Member Posts: 122
Making a bold statment like this will have you reading this post till the end. What I am saying from stating that World Of Warcraft is not the best MMORPG, but only the best of its kind has meaning toward it. Saying a game is the best only calculates ignorance and failiure to understand marketing and developer design. World Of Warcraft was made to simulate an updated version of Everquest back in the day with only new graphics, content, and lore, while keeping the barebones of that type of MMO in tact. To be all fair WoW wasnt innovative at all, they simply took something that already worked and pushed it into the main stream of a piece of lore called Warcraft that was widely sucessful. Dont believe me? Look at Warcraft 3 a game released in 2002 when Blizzard was well aware of the scripting needed to create a MMO such as Everquest. So what did they do? Copy the lore and paste it into the game while adding different textures to simulate a 3d game with a thrid to first person perspective instead of a overview RTS perspective.
Saying this you are probably wondering why do I care? You just dissed my fav game! <--- Ignorance. Saying someone dissed a game after they said it was the best of its kind is pure ignorance. WoW is the best of its kind because its the best Dungeon crawler around. The game physically lacks almost no story because you have to read it, and the syncronization of the dungeons isnt really story based, its more combat based. Saying this is sort of a kick to the nuts to WoW players because what I said is true, do you really see the story evolving like it does in games such as Final Fantasy 11/14, Lord Of The Rings, Age Of Conan, and even a minor one in Vindictus? No you dont because Blizzard has copied so to speak the style of Everquest, combat based progression. Saying this is in context of the average now a days player that doesnt read text, but only calculates the perfect strat against a raid boss. Back in the day all that was needed was text to progress a story, but for a player to feel more involved with a storys progression they need voice overs, cinematics, and even phasing in some spots of the trade.
Stating all of that I say WoW is the best dungeon crawler of its time. By only copying the barebones of Everquest and re skinning it to there lore Blizzard made one of the biggest MMOs of all time, but not the best because perfection will drive people away from your game... just ask Aion LOL.
Best Dungeon Crawler MMO: World Of Warcraft
Best Story Based MMO: LOTR Online
Best PVP Based MMO: World Of Warcraft
Best PVP Progression MMO: Warhammer Online
Best Sandbox MMO: Eve Online
Best F2P MMO: Guild Wars (Guild wars is technically a F2P in my book knowing you only have to pay for the game once.)
Hope you all enjoyed this and I hope the flames dont crumble this thread even know its bound to,
Azzthuras
PS, sorry for some spelling errors here and there... im human.
Comments
I guess you need some attention. Here is a :ribbon: for you and your boldness.
I disagree. I think that the way WoW uses phasing is not only great, but is also used in a responsible way. EVE and UO can feel like a single player game the same amount, if not more than WoW and they don't even use phasing to make you feel that way.
Phasing is a great idea and doesn't detract from the massive or multiplayer aspects as much as you claim it does.
Out of all the games you listed, every single one of them is an MMORPG by any standard except your own. And to say that people that are experienced drift to the right is ludicrous. On the left we have 9 hundred bazzilion subs. On the right we have less than one tenth of the left. What you are saying assumes that some day EVE, UO or a group of games like them will have those 9 hundred bazzilion subs. Since that's never going to happen, I find your point of view to be out of touch with reality.
Something strange is happening.
This is getting fun.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
mod please delete this thread..everquest was released in 1999 were as warcraft orcs & humans was released in 1994 which then blizzard was preparing for a 7 year games design to make world of warcraft which was released in 2001 while continuing creating warcraft 2 which was released in 1995 & further on warcraft 3 2002 blizzard had created there warcraft franchise a longtime before & were simply working hard to get it finished which is why blizzard is such a successful company some people seem to think it takes 5-6months to create a solid gaming title or copy.
"Best PVP Based MMO: World Of Warcraft"
You must be joking right??
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
Edgar Allan Poe
then what is the best pvp mmo ? and will your answer be based on opinion or fact
Actually, there are a lot more better pvp mmoprgs then WoW for sure.
And I know it, i played them all..
1. DAOC
2. WAR
When it comes to pvp , WoW closes the gate:)
My facts...
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
Edgar Allan Poe
yes there all your opinions & your facts ..i'll carry on looking for evidence of there gaming awards which suggests there pvp based play for being uniquely new & innovating for other companys to learn from in the future.
You must be trolling. If you really think this is true WoW must be the only game you have ever played.
then what is the best & most upto date fantasy pvp mmo ? and will your answer be based on opinion or fact
His opinion is as valid as yours. There are no facts that prove soemthing to be the "best".
Currently playing: EverQuest
Waiting for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
i didnt state any of my opinions apart from the only one being is that you are assuming i did ..above im asking a question nothing more nothing less
kind of depressing if WoW is deemed best dungeon crawler. I do agree that its the best of it's kind however, its just defining what it's kind is. I'd say that was a gameplay-driven mmorpg while a more rpg-rich mmorpg is something like LOTRO.
Your opinion is that wow is the best dungeon crawler and the best pvp based game. Something that not everybody will agree to. Including myself
Currently playing: EverQuest
Waiting for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
DDO is by far the best dungeon crawler.
But I agree that WoW is the best overall MMO but it's not best in any category.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
Wierd , Guild Wars isnt even F2p since you can't play it for free...
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Best pve themepark goes to lotro, best pvp themepark goes to warhammer. Best pvp sandbox goes to EvE, best pve sandbox goes to Ryzom.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Clywd you are still fully assuming the dumbest possibilities from a very narrow minded perspective with no evidence of what your assuming ..now for my opinion, if people are claiming that there are better dungeon crawlers with unique & well balanced pvp systems id like to see the names of the Mmo's & actual evidence from awards,raitings,popularity etc given to the companys as clear proof rather than people letting themselves believe that they are 100% correct.
WoW the best at pvp. Did I read that right? Really? Seriously? WoWs good at a lot of things but pvp? You gotta be fuckin joking me.
Aggreeeee
PVP in WoW is just lol.
I really dont get why some of you guys down WoW's pvp so much. I dont read many people actually explaining why they think that way. They say things like try DAOC, and i have. I played it before WoW. I liked its PvP. I dont think its better. I dont think wows better. I think its all PvP. I like them both equally. So can anyone go into depth why they think WoW's PvP is fail without just listing off other games they think did it better? Saying it takes no skill is a mute point. If that was the case everyone would be able to compete in the major gaming events. Just by smashing their face into their keyboard..(hehe, i always laugh at that when i think of someone doing it)
Anyways,
I dont agree with all the OP's opinions. Actually i dont agree with any of them. But what i disagree with the most is him saying that a MMORPG needs voice overs and cut scenes to have its lore properly appreciated. Im into WoWs lore just as much as i was into FFXI's while i played it. I like reading, have a good imagination, and dont need cut scenes and voice overs to do the work. Thats just me though. Theres people on both sides of the fence. Some do need that stuff.
Are you serious? If a game has won awards for any part of it that doesn't make it better than the games that didn't win awards, or got a lower rating. Its all in the opinion of whom is giving out those awards and ratings. There is no evidence that proves something is better.