I know this is 'ignorant' but .. No Drow..no subscription :P

sygmas

I don't like fantasy games much but, when I used to love them when I Was younger I always loved the Drow in D&D an all the mythos that goes with it including the Underdark -- but this game isnt based on that theme,. its the newer stuff in D&D stuff I have no clu about

Basically I was excited about this game because I thought I'd be able to be a Drow, and see the Underdark created visually...That would have sold me on its own. So yeah...screw DDO :P

Stableboy

awww, sorry that your fetish has not been catered for ...... me thinks they will get a few hundred $ from everyone in expansion packs before they give you want you want

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Valdin

First, you don't like fantasy games.  Okay, so go play something else and don't even comment on this game.  You already know that Dungeons and Dragons is a fantasy based game.   All the "mythos" that you espouse are in a completely different game world.  More than likely, you simply read the RA Salvatore novels and drool whenever someone says 'drow' or Drizzt.  Sorry, there's plenty more to these worlds than dark elves.  Although there are rumors of some dark elves in Xen'drik somewhere.

The Underdark?  Have you looked into Neverwinter Nights?  Nice game and the Hordes of the Underdark expansion (also available in the Neverwinter Nights Platinum edition) should give you plenty to explore in the dark depths under the Forgotten Realms.  Now, bear in mind, it's still Dungeons and Dragons and therefore IS fantasy based ...

alerum

god i hope they dont put in drow. its bad enough in games that have a version og dark elves, with the Drizzt Drizzit Drizztt and such from those with no imagination. it would be 100000 times worse with Drow in the game.

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Originally posted by alerum
god i hope they dont put in drow. its bad enough in games that have a version og dark elves, with the Drizzt Drizzit Drizztt and such from those with no imagination. it would be 100000 times worse with Drow in the game.

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/agree 1000000000000000000%

Loved him as a unique individual ......have grown ever so sick of clones

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Lanmoragon

I agree with you guys 100%.He was cool as an individual character because there was nobody else like him, but seeing all of the "drizzit, dryzzit, drizzyt" clones sucks.And if all of those are taken people still go on to take Zaknafein or something.It would be cool to see dark elves in D&D but maybe they are not including them for a reason...

Thoom

If they are using the Ebberon campaign, then I hope they include the Warforged race. Playing a living construct would be most interesting.

alerum

i think i remember reading on the website that you can play a warforged.

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Thoom

Fantastic! I play a warforged now in a pen/paper campaign, and love it. We have it set up me hunting my creator ala "Frankenstein"

 

Tacklebury

If EQ didn't make me sick of drow, having one DM in a pnp series who ALWAYS stuck us in Menzobaronzon (*spelling?) I certainly had enough of them after him.  Drow aren't all like Drizzt is right and most are bloodthirsty Chaotic Evil Below Ground ONLY creatures.  Only 1 in a million can even come above ground except by magical means.  It wouldn't bother me a bit if they weren't playable as would be the case in any type of D&D adventure except one in a whole lot of spider infested tunnels...   I think EQ just prettied them up too much, and made them like any other elf only liking darker gods, imo.

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glittermage

Drow should be in the game.

The developers need to have the "Underdark".

If someone wants a drow elf that's great. They should see the world through darkvision and not normal vision. When they go to the surface or bright areas the screen should go really bright so it's hard for the gamer to play.

That way, the gamer will TRY and stay in dark areas.

alerum

ya know thats a pretty good idea. just add NOONE WILL BE ABLE TO DUEL WIELD SCIMITARS.lol

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Thanius

Ahhh I remember all the players in my groups that always wanted to be Drow after the read R.A.'s books...<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

What I can’t figure out is why people don't want to make original characters and bring them to life. Why so many Drizzt wannabes or in Dragonlance Rastlin or Tas or well you name the hero in a novel and I am sure someone wants to be them.

I have no problem with people choosing races that are interesting, Drow, Kender, other...but make the character your own, develop them love them enjoy them. That’s the way to play. Sure, fantasy games are there for you to become something your not and someone your not. But, let us not be clones.

Let us be original as we can with what we can...

Oh, and lets not use names that brake fantasy and immersion.

nachttoter

ok first while I agree his coments make him sound a bit like a fan boy I also share some of his feelings. And wanna slap those of you that talk down on drow.

 

First I do not play a drow ranger I play 2 different drow in 2 campaigns 1

12 rouge / 5 shadowdancer

based in the FR

and the irst drow i played was a drow necromancer that i got to lvl 18 and this mind you was with a group of hardcore players who allowed me to play these roles after i developed a background story for them and explained how they were going to interact or atempt to with the pt and surface dwellers if and when I reached the surface.

To call somone who enjoies the difficulty and dangers of playing this race and seeing friends in the party adjust to the town or cities reaction to my race was always a great source of fun. excitement, and suspense seeing if i would be able to sneak out of town undetcted after my race had been discovered was a pain in the ass and if they impliment this type of play factor into the game i think it would add a whole new level of character immersion and force thoes that play the role to hold true to the misconceptions and predujices that are associated with the drow and thus make the experience that much more rewarding and devistating if you fail and are incarserated for crimes you didn't do and got blamed for. because you were drow and chose that rrace and path.

But to automaticly dismisit as an uncreative race is arrogant and very insensitive and show lack of creativity on your part and lack of trust on your part for somone to play the role any good outside of the drizzit character. And for the record I was playing a drow character at least 2 years before i ever read a book fron the drizzit series and while i like his character it is not the type of character I chose to play. So please in the future be a little more open minded when you get into a drow bashing mood.

 

Nym Nareth 19 drow Male Necromancer who died trying to create a phlactery competely decimated by a paladin and a ranger hunting him but it was fun to play that role.

 

I do and have regulary play other races but for a great challenge I enjoy the complexity of playing a drow. 

 

but that is just my 2 gil as we say in FFxi

nachttoter

Thanius

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Originally posted by nachttoter


ok first while I agree his coments make him sound a bit like a fan boy I also share some of his feelings. And wanna slap those of you that talk down on drow.
 
First I do not play a drow ranger I play 2 different drow in 2 campaigns 1
12 rouge / 5 shadowdancer
based in the FR
and the irst drow i played was a drow necromancer that i got to lvl 18 and this mind you was with a group of hardcore players who allowed me to play these roles after i developed a background story for them and explained how they were going to interact or atempt to with the pt and surface dwellers if and when I reached the surface.
To call somone who enjoies the difficulty and dangers of playing this race and seeing friends in the party adjust to the town or cities reaction to my race was always a great source of fun. excitement, and suspense seeing if i would be able to sneak out of town undetcted after my race had been discovered was a pain in the ass and if they impliment this type of play factor into the game i think it would add a whole new level of character immersion and force thoes that play the role to hold true to the misconceptions and predujices that are associated with the drow and thus make the experience that much more rewarding and devistating if you fail and are incarserated for crimes you didn't do and got blamed for. because you were drow and chose that rrace and path.
But to automaticly dismisit as an uncreative race is arrogant and very insensitive and show lack of creativity on your part and lack of trust on your part for somone to play the role any good outside of the drizzit character. And for the record I was playing a drow character at least 2 years before i ever read a book fron the drizzit series and while i like his character it is not the type of character I chose to play. So please in the future be a little more open minded when you get into a drow bashing mood.
 
Nym Nareth 19 drow Male Necromancer who died trying to create a phlactery competely decimated by a paladin and a ranger hunting him but it was fun to play that role.
 
I do and have regulary play other races but for a great challenge I enjoy the complexity of playing a drow. 
 
but that is just my 2 gil as we say in FFxi
nachttoter

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See...your not one that I was committing on...you said yourself you developed and worked with your character...made it your own. The ones I never had liked were the ones that carried the book to the game and said, "I want to make a Drow Ranger just like Drizzt." And sadly that’s where allot of people get their characters from...cloning someone else’s story character. Drow as any other race are cool...I wish that there was a MMORPG that let people play any race that was in the game, make it harder via faction of course, but hey the models are there just stick some stats with them and let us at it. But whatever choice you have make it your own character, and use a name worth someone reading or hearing about....

Scaris

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Originally posted by Valdin
First, you don't like fantasy games.  Okay, so go play something else and don't even comment on this game.  You already know that Dungeons and Dragons is a fantasy based game.   All the "mythos" that you espouse are in a completely different game world.  More than likely, you simply read the RA Salvatore novels and drool whenever someone says 'drow' or Drizzt.  Sorry, there's plenty more to these worlds than dark elves.  Although there are rumors of some dark elves in Xen'drik somewhere.
The Underdark?  Have you looked into Neverwinter Nights?  Nice game and the Hordes of the Underdark expansion (also available in the Neverwinter Nights Platinum edition) should give you plenty to explore in the dark depths under the Forgotten Realms.  Now, bear in mind, it's still Dungeons and Dragons and therefore IS fantasy based ...

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While I will give Neverwinter Nights credit for being a good game, I will hardly give it credit for portraying the Underdark as anything more then a small town with some caves around it and about 10 hours of solid exploration to complete.

- Fadeus Hawkwood

Scaris

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Originally posted by Lanmoragon
I agree with you guys 100%.He was cool as an individual character because there was nobody else like him, but seeing all of the "drizzit, dryzzit, drizzyt" clones sucks.And if all of those are taken people still go on to take Zaknafein or something.It would be cool to see dark elves in D&D but maybe they are not including them for a reason...

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Oh you can guarantee there will be more of them then there will was Legalos clones in EQ 1 after the movie series started up if you can be dark elf.

- Fadeus Hawkwood

protoroc

Drow and the Underdark is exclusively Forgotten Realms a series WotC no longer supports, DDO takes place in Ebberon

Legerfina

Omg... Now i will never see any Drow in DDO (probably) .
Come on guys , there are a lot of positive sides.
Dark Elves must be in DDO!

Hello from Underdark.

crossmr

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Originally posted by protoroc
Drow and the Underdark is exclusively Forgotten Realms a series WotC no longer supports, DDO takes place in Ebberon

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Please show me your source where WotC no longer supports Forgotten Realms.

Lockdown

Oddly enough my very first character i played as was a Drow  but anyway Drow are fun because there so evil that in D&D that the DM cant say anything about you being too evil thats pretty much the reason i like drow i dunno bout u guys

ROlobax

Guys, You have to realise that A drow, in 3.5 dnd which this game is based off, is a +2 ecl. basicaly, a drow with no levels is as powerfula as a second level char. So, giving some players an advance in lvl, wouldent be fair, and would require way too much work to program. And the Drow are pussys anyways.

Lockdown

Yeah but 3.5 is pure crap anyway

ROlobax

Dude, What are you smoking, 3.5 is the best dnd yet. Every thing new to 3.5 is an improvement to Dnd orignal, Adnd, and all that befor it. Every thing not in 3.5 was a hassel anyway. The d20 system is a fantastic improvement over Adnd.

AtmaDarkwolf

No drow unless there was strict pentalies to being one(no sunlight, pure evil, whatever)

 

I myself loved Driz as a original and unique char, but ppl are right.. read any book with him in it and u see how EVERYONE reacts to him even though he is FAMOUS.. He is a drow, so people are wary(or downright hostile) to him.. Drow's are not to be trusted, simple as that.

 

Allow drow, but make it so they cannot trade with anyone of good and diffrent alighment of the charactor who is a drow(these are not or, I mean AND. a chaotic evil drow can trade with his own kind, but a good aligned drow can't trade with ANYONE, his own kind would disown him, and good people would not trust him)

 

That alone would cut down the numbers playing them. Sure for a bit there will be the swarms of drow, but they would die off not being able to buy/sell stuff, and basicaly gaming would be just too hard.

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Lockdown

rolo how can u say that 3.5 is an upgrade it is so pointless and the d20 thing sux so badly now its not even funny