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Population growing at a healthy rate

worldspin85worldspin85 Member Posts: 187

new players are enjoying the game and lots of old players are coming back nos is the time to resub or give the freee trial a go !! im glad to be back.

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  • lordzelmanlordzelman Member Posts: 124

    just started today. (ok i started a few days ago, but i rerolled today ^^)

     

    my name is Tile Man  dont kill me XD

  • UzikUzik Member UncommonPosts: 281

    Eh, I wouldn't say that the population is growing yet.

     

    There has been a large influx of trial players, but we wont truly know what impact this will have on the overall population for a few weeks.

     

    All I can say is that now is a good time to try the game out and roll as a human.  Human lands are actually pretty alive for once.  And PLEASE if you are a vet, try helping new players instead of ganking them.

    (Uzik ibnYaraq in game. Always willing to help.)
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  • RealbigdealRealbigdeal Member UncommonPosts: 1,666

    Originally posted by Uzik

    Eh, I wouldn't say that the population is growing yet.

     

    There has been a large influx of trial players, but we wont truly know what impact this will have on the overall population for a few weeks.

     

    All I can say is that now is a good time to try the game out and roll as a human.  Human lands are actually pretty alive for once.  And PLEASE if you are a vet, try helping new players instead of ganking them.

    Still, players didnt recommended me to play as human since they get attacked even more. For newb mahirim orcs and alfar pkers, the human land is a paridise since there is a lot more newb's at our level to kill. Dwarf, there are a lot of miners. Elf land, no one at all. Everytime i travel there, i find no one.

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  • KienKien Member Posts: 520

    My guild has had an influx of new people, so I'd say your probably right. Whether or not new players stick around when they learn AV refuses to change the broken stuff is an open question.

  • jezvinjezvin Member UncommonPosts: 804

    This game has alot of fun for new characters but lacks stuff for people to stick around and do. It just gets very grindy and alot of the cool PvP stuff is really fun but after the first few times the amount of grinding and effort in a make another boat just dosn't seem too worth it.

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  • worldspin85worldspin85 Member Posts: 187

    Its time to come back to the game look even beta players who left are coming back and enjoying the game now

     

    http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=4640045#post4640045

     

    its not joke when i say the state of the game is good and alot of good changes are coming, im talking about new features that will remake this game! thats something big to look foward to.

  • -Zeno--Zeno- Member CommonPosts: 1,298

    There are more people now than there was a month ago.  Some say its more than seen in the past 6 months to a year.  More people the better.

    The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

  • worldspin85worldspin85 Member Posts: 187

    I think the vets should always leave the noobs alone and let them develop the population has been growing, and with the next expansion coming soon it should double.

  • rwittmaackrwittmaack Member Posts: 79

    on EU-1 we had around 4000 active subs 12/09, in 11/10 we're down to around 1200 active subs.

    stop spreading lies, the situation is catastrophic, AV needs to work alot faster towards that jesus expansion DF2010 and it better be good or the game will have bled out long before.

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    its not joke when i say the state of the game is good and alot of good changes are coming, im talking about new features that will remake this game! thats something big to look foward to.

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    It's simply not true. The population is as low as never before, save for the short interval before the hellfreeze expansion hit, were there were even 200 less players.

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  • BuniontToesBuniontToes Member Posts: 529

    Originally posted by rwittmaack

    please stop this bullshit.

    on EU-1 we had around 4000 active subs 12/09, in 11/10 we're down to around 1200 active subs.

    stop spreading lies, the situation is catastrophic, AV needs to work alot faster towards that jesus expansion DF2010 and it better be good or the game will have bled out long before.

    [quote]

    its not joke when i say the state of the game is good and alot of good changes are coming, im talking about new features that will remake this game! thats something big to look foward to.

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    It's simply not true. The population is as low as never before, save for the short interval before the hellfreeze expansion hit, were there were even 200 less players. The trend is downwards however you look at it, I can't understand how you can claim the game is in a good state while keeping a straight face.

    On NA every city is populated (even the crappy ones).  I have more newbies in/out than ever before.

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    Originally posted by BuniontToes

    Originally posted by rwittmaack

    please stop this bullshit.

    on EU-1 we had around 4000 active subs 12/09, in 11/10 we're down to around 1200 active subs.

    stop spreading lies, the situation is catastrophic, AV needs to work alot faster towards that jesus expansion DF2010 and it better be good or the game will have bled out long before.

    [quote]

    its not joke when i say the state of the game is good and alot of good changes are coming, im talking about new features that will remake this game! thats something big to look foward to.

    [/quote]

    It's simply not true. The population is as low as never before, save for the short interval before the hellfreeze expansion hit, were there were even 200 less players. The trend is downwards however you look at it, I can't understand how you can claim the game is in a good state while keeping a straight face.

    On NA every city is populated (even the crappy ones).  I have more newbies in/out than ever before.

    Yeah, every city I go to lately is busy with people. I wonder if EU is hurting as much as he claims, and where are those numbers from? I wasn't aware that we had access to that kind of info.

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  • alderdalealderdale Member Posts: 301

    Originally posted by jezvin

    This game has alot of fun for new characters but lacks stuff for people to stick around and do. It just gets very grindy and alot of the cool PvP stuff is really fun but after the first few times the amount of grinding and effort in a make another boat just dosn't seem too worth it.

     This is unfortunately still the case, the amount of time it takes to grind for gold or mats to make or buy the type of items you would want to be using to truely enjoy the game creates a barrier to people being CONSTANTLY active in the game world.  Hanging out in Player or NPC cities or skilling up on goblins doesnt count as active in my opinion.  And Im not even touching base on the lack of ships, warhulks etc due to the fact that no one wants to lose them, they are reserved for "special occasions" wtf?

    The sense of loss for time invested in this game is still far to great for the majority of gamers, this will always be a tiny niche game with a huge fluxuation in population.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    Originally posted by alderdale

    .....the amount of time it takes to grind for gold or mats to make or buy the type of items you would want to be using to truely enjoy the game...

    Hence the risk part... in the risk vs reward equation..

     

    there are some games you might consider which you don't loose anything or get handed everthing that suit better to your likings..

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  • alderdalealderdale Member Posts: 301

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by alderdale

    .....the amount of time it takes to grind for gold or mats to make or buy the type of items you would want to be using to truely enjoy the game...

    Hence the risk part... in the risk vs reward equation..

     

    there are some games you might consider which you don't loose anything or get handed everthing that suit better to your likings..

     I dont have to consider anything because my response isnt about me or my preferences for the game.  My response was addressing the remarkedly slow growth of the game (due to among other things) my comment.  As long as AV is happy snagging a couple of new players here and there over the coming years then they can consider this game succesfull. 

    Now here is something that does concern me.  I consider it a fun game and have been subbed since EU then rolled on NA1 still active, but you will never see this game with more than two servers with its current rule set.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    Originally posted by alderdale

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    Originally posted by alderdale

    .....the amount of time it takes to grind for gold or mats to make or buy the type of items you would want to be using to truely enjoy the game...

    Hence the risk part... in the risk vs reward equation..

     

    there are some games you might consider which you don't loose anything or get handed everthing that suit better to your likings..

     I dont have to consider anything because my response isnt about me or my preferences for the game.  My response was addressing the remarkedly slow growth of the game (due to among other things) my comment.  As long as AV is happy snagging a couple of new players here and there over the coming years then they can consider this game succesfull. 

    Now here is something that does concern me.  I consider it a fun game and have been subbed since EU then rolled on NA1 still active, but you will never see this game with more than two servers with its current rule set.

     

    You call a games strong point in connection to  a negative connotation term between gamers like "grind" ..in really is the effort you put in for your better equipment plays a role in risk vs reward equation. Not only you does this but a lot of posters here..Its good for the gameplay that if you wear some harder to get equipment and you loose it you feel like having lost something valuable as well in case of the opposite you win fights because of the gear and you feel rewarded..again its the games strong point and is very good its that way..

    We want a good game offering risk vs reward gameplay and not a game some might fit their lifestyle.

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Hence the risk part... in the risk vs reward equation..

    Risk vs reward means that only smaller part of the people will be rewarded because if it was the other way round, the risk would be either minimal or meaningless.

    Then you need to think how attractive for a player it is to be put into a loser position just by game mechanics. It does not seem as very smart game concept at the end...

  • BadaboomBadaboom Member UncommonPosts: 2,380

    Originally posted by Gdemami

     




    Originally posted by DarthRaiden



    Hence the risk part... in the risk vs reward equation..




     

    Risk vs reward means that only smaller part of the people will be rewarded because if it was the other way round, the risk would be either minimal or meaningless.

    Then you need to think how attractive for a player it is to be put into a loser position just by game mechanics. It does not seem as very smart game concept at the end...

     

    Is this Gemini from Image who left Darkfall after failing and tucked tail and went to MO?

  • HotjazzHotjazz Member UncommonPosts: 742

    Originally posted by Cecropia

     I wonder if EU is hurting as much as he claims, and where are those numbers from? I wasn't aware that we had access to that kind of info.

    It`s from this page    http://darkfallinfo.com/pmap/index.php?mapserver=eu1&page=clans .

     

    And sadly he is true,  EU1 feels empty. We are still low on numbers, and that`s bad when we have had a low population for 1 1/2 year. Sure some grinders will claim we have a healthy population, but the EU1 forum on forumfall don`t lie.

     

    http://forums.darkfallonline.com/forumdisplay.php?f=36

     

    Just look how rare the sieges are. And when we do have one, look at the numbers our alliances can field. We can field 40 vs 40 when the major alliances clash. Most of the normal players will only see a 10 vs 10 if they are really lucky. All is well in the kingdom of Agon.

     

    Edit. We now have something called supernutcup. That`s when one side get 80 players and now we are close to a server war.

  • jaxsundanejaxsundane Member Posts: 2,776

    Originally posted by worldspin85

    new players are enjoying the game and lots of old players are coming back nos is the time to resub or give the freee trial a go !! im glad to be back.

     The initial pre launch hype around this game had me willing to give it a go but that was when I thought it would be an open world sandbox in the mold of an mmorpg version of D&D since launch it has revealed itself as a pvp'ers dream game and not much else, nothing I've heard about this game in the time since it's launch leads me to believe that anything has changed in that regard.

    but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....

  • BadaboomBadaboom Member UncommonPosts: 2,380

    Originally posted by jaxsundane

    Originally posted by worldspin85

    new players are enjoying the game and lots of old players are coming back nos is the time to resub or give the freee trial a go !! im glad to be back.

     The initial pre launch hype around this game had me willing to give it a go but that was when I thought it would be an open world sandbox in the mold of an mmorpg version of D&D since launch it has revealed itself as a pvp'ers dream game and not much else, nothing I've heard about this game in the time since it's launch leads me to believe that anything has changed in that regard.

    I sympathize.  I was a person that was hoping for a real sandbox that happened to have pvp.  This was a sandbox with an emphasis on pvp, with little else.  I still enjoy the game.  The pvp is fantastic and the extras are being filled in.  Just the other day I got my first treasure map and went out trying to find it.  Was very cool and fun.  Darkfall needs more of this and players like you.  Good news is AV is listening and we are heading in the right direction.

  • BuniontToesBuniontToes Member Posts: 529

    Originally posted by jaxsundane

    Originally posted by worldspin85

    new players are enjoying the game and lots of old players are coming back nos is the time to resub or give the freee trial a go !! im glad to be back.

     The initial pre launch hype around this game had me willing to give it a go but that was when I thought it would be an open world sandbox in the mold of an mmorpg version of D&D since launch it has revealed itself as a pvp'ers dream game and not much else, nothing I've heard about this game in the time since it's launch leads me to believe that anything has changed in that regard.

    I've heard a lot about DFO.  Unfortunately only abouyt 30% of it is true.  Another 30% is subjective, the other 40% outright lies.

     

    If you want to know what the game is like, try the free trial and see for yourself.

  • worldspin85worldspin85 Member Posts: 187

    You people are crazy we had a siege this weekand and it was epic just like old times the numbers were well large enough on both side for it to be fair and even it lasted for several hours 1 side pushing then the other side pushing back it was going back and forst non stop. Great PVP so much fun the numbers are increasing people are gaining faith because the developers are responding more to the community and they are well working on many improvements.

  • alderdalealderdale Member Posts: 301

    Originally posted by Gdemami

     




    Originally posted by DarthRaiden



    Hence the risk part... in the risk vs reward equation..




     

    Risk vs reward means that only smaller part of the people will be rewarded because if it was the other way round, the risk would be either minimal or meaningless.

    This part of your post is really really insightful, in the real world this makes sense.  In a game where people are paying to have fun and have limited amounts of free time the larger majority of people as you pointed out dont have fun and move on.  Hence my continual revolving door comment.

  • BelegStrongbowBelegStrongbow Member UncommonPosts: 296

    /Bump

     

     

    This is true, I am seeing a ton of more players and old vets returning.  The Political landscape is more interesting that more people are getting stronger and endgame status.  

     

    I am seeing more WoF and utility spells now with tons of good fights and pvp.  

  • randomtrandomt Member UncommonPosts: 1,220

    Maybe it's not as sandboxy as it could be, maybe it's a bit too grindy, maybe there's not quite enough pve, maybe *insert whatever your personal complaint is* but the bottom line is: What else is there in this genre that isn't a gazillian years old to play? Nothing.

    Personally I find it good enough to play, and there's nothing else out there to compete with it.

    Some tried to make alternatives, those failed or are failing or never got off the ground.. that's just the way it goes heh. One day someone else will get it right, or DF will evolve into whatever your personal dream ffa pvp sandbox game is, and that'll be that.

    There's a trial, it doesnt take a 1$ charge like it used to, try it for yourself and make your own opinion.

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