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So you can only play as skaven after your faction wins the new dungeon? Lame
Mesfenlir
Member Posts: 208
This new patch is chaotic. There is merely info and almost nobody knows what to do in the new rvr system, players run like headless chickens everywhere.
They give us skavens just as a monster play, this is bad but worse is the fact that you can only play them after your faction (thats it the +65rr players) won the day in the new dungeon.
I really want to be wrong but I spent some hours playing today and couldn´t create a skaven for myself because my realm didn´t have the warpstone resources from the dungeon.
If this is correct it would be the last nail in the coffin for many war players.
Wish to hear from you.
P.S I dont like the naked keeps. Its a dps melee class fiesta.
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ROFLMAO!
Really. After reading the 1.4.0 patch notes I almost started to believe that they finally might turn the game around a little and manage to bounch back a bit.
Then I read this. And I am not even suprised. these devs are really totally clueless. They just keep failing and failing... and fail some more. lol.
Skaven = when you are RR65+, when you win the new scenario, when you have the resources, and if one of the 12? slots for skaven on your *realm* is open, then you get a chance of taking a Skaven out to siege the keep until either you die or zone out.
They're really just siege engines basically, except you can't break any walls here.
Awesome I can officially drop WAR from my "will return list".
That game has some clueless devs man and its kind of scary to think that some of those dudes are also working on TOR...
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Doesn't really sound like fail to me.
It's like a kind of achievement.
Basically you have to achieve some stuff before being able to play as a Skaven. And then pass on the oportunity to someone else after a certain amount of time.
They basically don't hand them out on a platter! When you see a Skaven you know that person had to do something for it.
Sounds cool in my book.
At least in LOTRO I can play as a monster whenever I want and with almost all classes available.
We should play as skavens in every siege as much as we want. Devs are so blind... my god.
How they think this is going to bring fresh new players? Its insane.
And the rr progression pack is only real boost for high rr players, not for players with 10 or 25 rr rank. Instead of making a equal boost for all players they chose again highrer rr ranks.
The bombing run is funny the first time but soon gets boring.
They promised: "Play as skaven"
If you can.....
Sorry dude... Its complete fail.
Having to earn the right to use a race/class is complete balls.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
What I'm getting from your description is they basically wanted to reward the veterans, ie long time players.
So if you look at it from that perspective those players might like it and the new players have something to strive for.
Just an observation.
Maybe for some people but remember wow did the same thing with the DK.
Ah tanks for that info.
If you put it in that context I understand people might be disappointed.
Yeah but wouldn't new players have all the original races to try out first anyway. By the time they get bored with them they would be eligible for the Skaven race.
But as I said in another answer above, if the pr campaign promised this race to all players from the get go, then I can see a lot of people being disappointed.
Again...
->> You do NOT unlock a race! <<--
It's no different than going to wintergrasp and picking up a siege engine, except here
There's no permanent Skaven anything you get to play. There's no progression.
You win the scenario, you or anyone else who did picks up a Skaven(Max 12 at a time) and uses it to fight till they either die or leave the zone.
It's really no different than picking up a temporary Siege Engine in Wintergrasp or whatever in Wow, you just need a few more/different steps to be able to do it.
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And @ Above, I believe it's 12 per realm, but I admit I only saw one person mention that limit so I don't know 100% sure if that's correct but Mythic have stated countless times the number of Skaven is limited and twelve for a single keep to siege sounds about right.
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Basically if WoW had used ... Fairy skins on their siege engines instead of actual engines then it would have been exactly the same. New Playable Race - Fairies! 4 Different classes! (types of siege engines).
DKs were available for anyone who had a level 55 character... This is different here you have to be max level then jump through hoops where only 12 of these classes can be available at any given time!!!
Thats a messed up limitation bro. its worse than Lotros Monsterplay because you have zero progression with the classes. No attachment what so ever to a new set of classes in game is good?
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
No they did not. You just need a level60 char and you can play a DK. Not really an achievement. Especially not with the current fast pace of leveling in the first 60 levels.
They're doing more with the Skaven. Whine louder and they'll change the requirements. NOW!
This is what happens when idiots don't actually pay attention to the patch/expansion notes and just jump to conclusions. Did you really expect Mythic, running WAR on a skeleton crew, to create an entirely new faction with 4-5 brand-new classes for you to simply create and level from 1 to 50 like everything else? Learn to read. If you'd actually took the 5 minutes to read the note's like most people, you wouldn't have needed to create this thread and thus wouldn't have been disappointed. And the new RvR system is NEW, compltely different, did you expect people to run around in complete synergy as if they've been playing this campaign for years?
''Waaah waaaah i can't play as Skaven unless i earn it waaaah i wan't everything handed to me on a silver platter''.
Even if Skaven was a whole new faction, i guarantee you'd only sub for a month, log in, create one, play it for a while until the novelty wore off, log out, unsub then still come here and complain about what war 'could have been'. Face it. If you don't like what WAR is now you'll never like it, new race's or not. Yes it took it's time getting to what it is today, and yes it's all too late, but nothing else is going to change about it besides gimmicky carrots on a stick. It's an RvR game to the core, the only thing's that will give it longevity are changes to the RvR gameplay. To anyone who can see past gimmicky 'skaven' and other warhammer novelties, this is what really matters. Skaven was just a cool little bonus and an excuse for Mythic to charge a little $, which is hardly a bank-breaker and well deserved IMO.
For normal people;
I must say that the rr progression pack is sold in the ea store without saying anything about how it works.
You buy it and maybe you understand how it really works.
If somebody can tell me where can I read the offical EA/mythic info I would appreciate.
Also they changed the game icons of the maps. Cant be 100% sure but I dont remenber reading anything about it on the patch notes.
Well I guess now we know that Cryptic has lost its monopoly on pulling a fast one on their customers.
At least people now also know what to expect with SW:TOR.
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You on the other hand have not and are making empty comments which are in fact in line with what a troll does. You openly admit that you have not read about how it works and yet you comment?
Do you expect the full explaination to be on Ea store? Ea store is a store where you buy DLC not where to go to read the complete changes to the RvR system and how to play the Skaven.
And no one should be buying it if they do not understnad how it works...So "maybe" should not come into it.
And on a final note the Skaven are hard to get that is how mythic wants it and that is how it is, you may not like it and you have a choice not to buy it, more fool you if you bought it without knowing what it contains.
I expect when I buy a product to know what I am getting. There is something called "costumer rights" at least in my country.
Was talking about the progression pack in the Ea store not the skaven patch please read better.
Regarding the "troll" subject I would say that a troll uses to insult others that don´t ehing like him/her.
Dont say you are a troll but using words like "fool" puts you on the borderline.
I recognized that I didn´t read ALL patch notes, but most of them yes.
In the official video of this patch you can read at the beggining. "Play as a skaven" which is right but it confuses the gamers cos they think you can play a skaven anytime you like (inside rvr zones ofc)
Also you can see all different skavens running in the middle of praag (no keep) and a skaven tank fighting on the field in a place it reminds me dragonwake. No siege also.
Players dont want to be difficult to play as a skeven, in fact they want to be one!!!!!!!
They promised us skavens and instead we have this.
And some of you blame me cos I am not happy about it???? ..... COMMON
http://www.warhammeronline.com/vermin/
Honestly that was really easy to find. It's one click away from the home page ffs.
You making a purchase without doing any research is your fault, not Mythics.
MUNDO!!
So much complte ignornace here again for all the world to see , another random poster discredit themselves further by not reading or understanding simple update notes ..
Having an agenda when you are posting becomes very obvious to folks after a while, at least read and learn about a system
before you post this sort of thing..
1. You only have to be RR 65 to enter the Incursion ....not spawn them .
2. you dont have to win to spawn Skaven
3.you dont have to have all the resources..
4. Skaven become avaible to all players after they are coerced and any RR can spawn them, and if you zone out your warpstone last 60 minutes you can still take it to other zones..
5. When coerced Skaven are available to both Realms .. the scenario winner get access 1st and only those folks that won a warpstone in Incursion..after 15 minutes the Skaven are Coerced..
6.this is a good one .. How many Skaven have you spawned .. none... thats what i thought..., you need to stick to subjects you have knowledge in .. so let me help you..
7. During Keep takes Skaven are fleshing out to be the most powerful classes on the field , there unique skills can make or break a Keep att/Def when used properly by folks who actually learn how to use them ... They are absolultely nothing like a siege weapon ..Lmao why do you post this garbage ....
There are only 12 perside because any more would really be overwhleming ,and the reality is most times that would be appraximatley 25-50% of the players in att/def force ..And if you die as one other folks can grab it at portal and try it out , seems there really is rarely a wait for them if thats what you want to do ...Players are already implacating some very imginative ways to use the Skaven that bring another whole layer of tactics to War ......
8. and go figure the majority of people that are actually PLAYING War , are enjoying the Skaven....
As everyone can see your post is wrong on every point you make ... So why post this sort of biased lies , do you think that know one else reads the internet and understands anything ,Stop the hate , go enjoy a game and stop discrediting yourself, or after a while know one will pay any mind to anything you type.
My only advice is play some more and learn this new system it becomes quite rewarding as you begin to see Skaven make a great differnece on the battlefield ...
Mods you need to change the title of this thread , as it is completly misleading and untrue ... Thx.
More complete and utter garbage post .. folks you can read thru this thread and find Facts of Skaven mechanics , dont takke 1 word of this biased opinion with an agenda with any merit of truth or knowledge of the Skaven mechanics...As this person obviously knows very little concerning them and has an agenda.
Yes, but the point is still: Why not release Skavens as a full destruction race and then add a order race later?
The whole thing seems kinda half assed to me. Skavens deserves to be a player race.