Played GW1 and i hated it,combat was boring,everything was instanced...meh,dunno why so much hype about GW2,i can't find anything i like about that game,and no healing classes? lol wut
Tera will be the best pvp mmorpg IMO,where Skill > Gear
However,the PVE in this game looks great,and i also love the soul system and the wide variety of classes.
no healer u said? all the classes havent been showed yet...
You and people like you make very little sense. You should have researched further. Just because there is no classed named Healer, Monk, Priest or wtf-ever other incarnation of the generic heal-bot, doesn't mean there's no healers. The same with tanks. There is no class that will be dedicated to these roles, but there are classes that specialize in them. If there were REALLY no tanks, why would there be a purpose to heavy armor? It takes half a brain cell to figure these things out. If you read other interviews, you'll see that specific classes (elementalist and necro, just of the ones shown so far) have weapons that offer skills specific to healers, such as Healing Rain on the water elemetalist side, or the HP draining abilties necromancers gain in Shade form. If you want to be a dedicated healer, just equip those weapons. All this means is you're not STUCK in those roles. All it means is, if you feel like taking a break from healing, you yell at someone else in your team to switch weapons, you equip your dagger or whatever it is that gives you access to some other element, and fwoosh...the whole dynamic has changed. On the fly. That quickly. That easily.
There's also mention that a class that has not yet been released is going to be more support-based than any of the others mentioned so far. I'm starting to get a little too far off topic so I'll end this now, but honestly people, do the research. About ~every~ game you're interested in.
And while we're at it, stop knocking the games other people enjoy. These "Rift/Tera/GW2/SWTOR is the next WoW Killer!" threads are old. If the game irks you that much, avoid it, don't attack the people that are still having fun with it.
First,i never atacked someone,i only gave an opinion about GW2,and i got attacked by GW2 fanboys.
I would rather have the trinity system,i always loved it,that's why i don't like GW2.
my friend i did not attacked you, if you had seen me in person (my expression) when i wrote that response to you, you would see im plainly giving my opinion back as an answer... is somebody else attacked u then thats not my problem
I never said you atacked me,that's why i quoted gw2prayer.
Played GW1 and i hated it,combat was boring,everything was instanced...meh,dunno why so much hype about GW2,i can't find anything i like about that game,and no healing classes? lol wut
Tera will be the best pvp mmorpg IMO,where Skill > Gear
However,the PVE in this game looks great,and i also love the soul system and the wide variety of classes.
no healer u said? all the classes havent been showed yet...
You and people like you make very little sense. You should have researched further. Just because there is no classed named Healer, Monk, Priest or wtf-ever other incarnation of the generic heal-bot, doesn't mean there's no healers. The same with tanks. There is no class that will be dedicated to these roles, but there are classes that specialize in them. If there were REALLY no tanks, why would there be a purpose to heavy armor? It takes half a brain cell to figure these things out. If you read other interviews, you'll see that specific classes (elementalist and necro, just of the ones shown so far) have weapons that offer skills specific to healers, such as Healing Rain on the water elemetalist side, or the HP draining abilties necromancers gain in Shade form. If you want to be a dedicated healer, just equip those weapons. All this means is you're not STUCK in those roles. All it means is, if you feel like taking a break from healing, you yell at someone else in your team to switch weapons, you equip your dagger or whatever it is that gives you access to some other element, and fwoosh...the whole dynamic has changed. On the fly. That quickly. That easily.
There's also mention that a class that has not yet been released is going to be more support-based than any of the others mentioned so far. I'm starting to get a little too far off topic so I'll end this now, but honestly people, do the research. About ~every~ game you're interested in.
And while we're at it, stop knocking the games other people enjoy. These "Rift/Tera/GW2/SWTOR is the next WoW Killer!" threads are old. If the game irks you that much, avoid it, don't attack the people that are still having fun with it.
First,i never atacked someone,i only gave an opinion about GW2,and i got attacked by GW2 fanboys.
I would rather have the trinity system,i always loved it,that's why i don't like GW2.
Oh no no, the attack part wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the OP mostly, and even the people attacking you about not liking GW2. My bad, should have been more clear on that. I'm just irked about all the people jumping to the wrong conclusions, not just about GW2 but about everything anymore. Everyone is clamoring so hard for something 'new' that they're sucking on the first nut to come their way.
Just chill and wait to see how things turn out. That goes to everyone.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Played GW1 and i hated it,combat was boring,everything was instanced...meh,dunno why so much hype about GW2,i can't find anything i like about that game,and no healing classes? lol wut
Tera will be the best pvp mmorpg IMO,where Skill > Gear
However,the PVE in this game looks great,and i also love the soul system and the wide variety of classes.
about GW2, it is a total different game from GW1, if you dont like GW1 doesnt mean u wont like GW2 because they are no similar... no healer u said? all the classes havent been showed yet... GW2 is coming with some innovations taht you havent seen before on mmorpgs (not even wow that fanboys claim to be the first original mmorpg) if you ask me what are those things? go and do your research like i did
We'll see how much innovative these features are once the game actually releases, I guess you have heard the quote that everything sounds amazing on paper.
The only thing that is going to kill WoW, IS WoW. Let's face facts here. Yes, Rift looks like it will be awesome, yes I am going to play. But am I not going to play Cataclysm? No, I will. And I don't even like WoW anymore. But a lot of my friends are still playing, so I will give them their money.
Now, like I said, I think WoW is killing itself just by getting old. That is why they are making another MMO to rule the world once this one is so outdated people can't stomach the thought of going back. We'll see... only time will tell, but no, this isn't a WoW killer, and only Blizzard will make it.
As excited as I am for this game it is no where near a WoW killer. Nothing is. WoW is an anomaly, and I would wager one you're not likely to see ever again in the genre.
Einherjar_LC says: WTB the true successor to UO or Asheron's Call pst!
Rift is basically what wow was to eq. if u dont kno what that means, its a wow clone lol. but a little diffrent the talent system is just amazing its almost like dual classes but not utterly ridiculous.
http://www.riftrolebuilder.com/ this is the talent calculator website if u wanna check it out(not all the specs have been released there will be 8 for each class from what i can tell with the information that is out)
http://www.riftgame.com/en/ this is the games main website has all the information about the game and what not.
if u just youtube rift planes of telara there are tons of videos of gameplay.
if u watch the mmo report next weeks episode is supposedly dedicated to this game (could have been a joke theres no telling when it comes to g4)
I just wanted to the wow community in on this game just so u kno why ur servers population dropped so much when it comes out at the beginning of next year.
a couple of questions you guys might have
yes there is instances there will be 5 man dungeons and 20 man raids
yes there will be pvp no telling what it will be, not much information has been released
the level cap is 50
there are 6 races 3 for each faction and 4 classes (but 8 specs for each class)
The game is gunna be awesome if uve heard of it kool, if u havent u need to go check it out.
Much love wow but its over im sorry blizz
The one and only reason RIFT will not kill WoW is because the only people who will play it are the ones who hate WoW. And the ones who hate WoW do not like WoW players or their perceived playing styles.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Rift is basically what wow was to eq. if u dont kno what that means, its a wow clone lol. but a little diffrent the talent system is just amazing its almost like dual classes but not utterly ridiculous.
http://www.riftrolebuilder.com/ this is the talent calculator website if u wanna check it out(not all the specs have been released there will be 8 for each class from what i can tell with the information that is out)
http://www.riftgame.com/en/ this is the games main website has all the information about the game and what not.
if u just youtube rift planes of telara there are tons of videos of gameplay.
if u watch the mmo report next weeks episode is supposedly dedicated to this game (could have been a joke theres no telling when it comes to g4)
I just wanted to the wow community in on this game just so u kno why ur servers population dropped so much when it comes out at the beginning of next year.
a couple of questions you guys might have
yes there is instances there will be 5 man dungeons and 20 man raids
yes there will be pvp no telling what it will be, not much information has been released
the level cap is 50
there are 6 races 3 for each faction and 4 classes (but 8 specs for each class)
The game is gunna be awesome if uve heard of it kool, if u havent u need to go check it out.
Much love wow but its over im sorry blizz
The one and only reason RIFT will not kill WoW is because the only people who will play it are the ones who hate WoW. And the ones who hate WoW do not like WoW players or their perceived playing styles.
It usually says a lot about a game when you see who represents it.
WoW killers a title that's even more disrespectful towards the game that it's been branded with. Should let the game stand on it's own before you give it some ugly title that everyone will reference it too.
"This game is another of that game. This game beat that game." The second sentence is the same as the first sentence. When a person simply says "I like this game," or "This game is good," is what makes it a good game.
Yupp, next WoW? maybe. But that is exactly why I left WoW. So... Next!
2 enemy factions system is more fun pvp wise than 1 whole faction of different races and all of them love each other.... more than 2 enemy factions? even better, massively massive pvp LOL (not counting aion as 3 faction pvp coz 1 of em is npc only which sux). The fact that there will be 2 factions fighting each other tahts not a next wow bro, ppl these days have to open their minds a lil bit wide, every single thing in a mmo is a wow trademark..... bullsh...t ..... the game doesnt even look like wow, wow is wow and thats it
Whatever, these are the reasons I left WoW for (that and no open world PvP worth mentioning)
I'm a PvP player through and through and Rift as such does not interest me at all. Imo, while they might have gone a bit imaginative on the PvE side of things, the PvP seems very.... scanty. Dunno, might change my mind, why not, if I hear anything new and intriguing. However, having 2 factions does not bode well... I really don't know what they might pull out of their hat till release that would impress the PvP crowd.
Through pretty harsh trial-and-error fot the past decade or so it's been pretty much proven that 2 factions do not work in a PvP game. Guild-based PvP with very carefuly crafted safeguards is viable (EVE and Darkfall, regardless of its many other flaws) and so is a 3 faction setup (DAoC and upcoming GW2) ... but 2 faction cannot work for anything more long-lasting than simple instanced fights. So... Yawn. It might be a cool game and a commercial success and whatnot but I'm really not interested. That's just my opinion bro, so don't sweat on it.
I'm not saying that it will be like this for everyone but......
The gameplay looks so boring to me.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Rift is basically what wow was to eq. if u dont kno what that means, its a wow clone lol. but a little diffrent the talent system is just amazing its almost like dual classes but not utterly ridiculous.
http://www.riftrolebuilder.com/ this is the talent calculator website if u wanna check it out(not all the specs have been released there will be 8 for each class from what i can tell with the information that is out)
http://www.riftgame.com/en/ this is the games main website has all the information about the game and what not.
if u just youtube rift planes of telara there are tons of videos of gameplay.
if u watch the mmo report next weeks episode is supposedly dedicated to this game (could have been a joke theres no telling when it comes to g4)
I just wanted to the wow community in on this game just so u kno why ur servers population dropped so much when it comes out at the beginning of next year.
a couple of questions you guys might have
yes there is instances there will be 5 man dungeons and 20 man raids
yes there will be pvp no telling what it will be, not much information has been released
the level cap is 50
there are 6 races 3 for each faction and 4 classes (but 8 specs for each class)
The game is gunna be awesome if uve heard of it kool, if u havent u need to go check it out.
Much love wow but its over im sorry blizz
The one and only reason RIFT will not kill WoW is because the only people who will play it are the ones who hate WoW. And the ones who hate WoW do not like WoW players or their perceived playing styles.
i dont hate wow
Then why make a thread about wanting a game to kill it? Makes no sense unless you're trying to sensationalize your thread and by trying to doing so you inadvertantly made me wonder if RIFT community will turn out to be some sort of safe haven for those who hate all things WoW (who wants to game around that type of negativity?). When you could have let it be, because last time I checked WoW's fanbase didn't prop WoW up to kill anything when it was released and guess what that translated into...
Sometimes it's best to take the modest road and leave all the circus antics to the clowns and jackasses.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
No it's not. This game is going to crash and burn once everyone realizes it's exactly the same as everything else.
------------------------ Everyone on this site: 1: MMORPGs are DOOMED, and I have the answers to save them! 2: THIS game's gonna kill WoW! 3: I wish things would go back to the Golden Age of MMORPGs, which only existed in my mind...
Great are you not tired people posting threads like this all the time?This game "killer" is all about the hype of certain game to be realised.That was aion/tera/warhammer/AOC and dam more just enjoy games stop compare
Great are you not tired people posting threads like this all the time?This game "killer" is all about the hype of certain game to be realised.That was aion/tera/warhammer/AOC and dam more just enjoy games stop compare
Stop ruining threads like this... i haven't finished my popcorn yet
I mean noone knows about rift... When Wow released it had a massive pre-installed battle.net fanbase.
I honestly think people should stop worrying about wow and worry about this game even being enjoyable lol.
I like what imk seeing in Rift but honestly it reminds me of a mmo mash up of all the games that tried to capture wows playerbase but couldnt.
I watch rift videos and I see EQ2, Vanguard, Lotro, Aoc ... all games that struggled to even have more than 300k subs...
And Rift is supposed to suddenly be the next WoW killer?
IM telling you this right now, Rift will release to a luke warm reception and be damn near forgotten when Tor & GW2 release.
Kinda like how CoH and FFXI are good mmos but noone ever talks about them, they have steady playerbases and are respected but you never really hear about them... that will be rift.
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I never said you atacked me,that's why i quoted gw2prayer.
Oh no no, the attack part wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the OP mostly, and even the people attacking you about not liking GW2. My bad, should have been more clear on that. I'm just irked about all the people jumping to the wrong conclusions, not just about GW2 but about everything anymore. Everyone is clamoring so hard for something 'new' that they're sucking on the first nut to come their way.
Just chill and wait to see how things turn out. That goes to everyone.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
We'll see how much innovative these features are once the game actually releases, I guess you have heard the quote that everything sounds amazing on paper.
The only thing that is going to kill WoW, IS WoW. Let's face facts here. Yes, Rift looks like it will be awesome, yes I am going to play. But am I not going to play Cataclysm? No, I will. And I don't even like WoW anymore. But a lot of my friends are still playing, so I will give them their money.
Now, like I said, I think WoW is killing itself just by getting old. That is why they are making another MMO to rule the world once this one is so outdated people can't stomach the thought of going back. We'll see... only time will tell, but no, this isn't a WoW killer, and only Blizzard will make it.
He ignored the fly on his forehead like a pro.
Umm, no.
As excited as I am for this game it is no where near a WoW killer. Nothing is. WoW is an anomaly, and I would wager one you're not likely to see ever again in the genre.
Einherjar_LC says: WTB the true successor to UO or Asheron's Call pst!
GW2 isn't instanced like GW1. There will be a persistent world.
Q: Why will this not be a WoW killer?
A: For the simple fact this thread alone (in the Rift section) is more about WoW than the actual game.
Rift is not a WoW killer... it's the next MMO flop.
/thread
The one and only reason RIFT will not kill WoW is because the only people who will play it are the ones who hate WoW. And the ones who hate WoW do not like WoW players or their perceived playing styles.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Yes, and I'm not even a WoW supporter. Way to create animosity towards Rift, OP.
i dont hate wow
It usually says a lot about a game when you see who represents it.
WoW killers a title that's even more disrespectful towards the game that it's been branded with. Should let the game stand on it's own before you give it some ugly title that everyone will reference it too.
"This game is another of that game. This game beat that game." The second sentence is the same as the first sentence. When a person simply says "I like this game," or "This game is good," is what makes it a good game.
Whatever, these are the reasons I left WoW for (that and no open world PvP worth mentioning)
I'm a PvP player through and through and Rift as such does not interest me at all. Imo, while they might have gone a bit imaginative on the PvE side of things, the PvP seems very.... scanty. Dunno, might change my mind, why not, if I hear anything new and intriguing. However, having 2 factions does not bode well... I really don't know what they might pull out of their hat till release that would impress the PvP crowd.
Through pretty harsh trial-and-error fot the past decade or so it's been pretty much proven that 2 factions do not work in a PvP game. Guild-based PvP with very carefuly crafted safeguards is viable (EVE and Darkfall, regardless of its many other flaws) and so is a 3 faction setup (DAoC and upcoming GW2) ... but 2 faction cannot work for anything more long-lasting than simple instanced fights. So... Yawn. It might be a cool game and a commercial success and whatnot but I'm really not interested. That's just my opinion bro, so don't sweat on it.
I'm not saying that it will be like this for everyone but......
The gameplay looks so boring to me.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
It's not persistent, it's zoned.
Then why make a thread about wanting a game to kill it? Makes no sense unless you're trying to sensationalize your thread and by trying to doing so you inadvertantly made me wonder if RIFT community will turn out to be some sort of safe haven for those who hate all things WoW (who wants to game around that type of negativity?). When you could have let it be, because last time I checked WoW's fanbase didn't prop WoW up to kill anything when it was released and guess what that translated into...
Sometimes it's best to take the modest road and leave all the circus antics to the clowns and jackasses.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Comment of the year. Give this guy a medal NAO.
No it's not. This game is going to crash and burn once everyone realizes it's exactly the same as everything else.
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Everyone on this site:
1: MMORPGs are DOOMED, and I have the answers to save them!
2: THIS game's gonna kill WoW!
3: I wish things would go back to the Golden Age of MMORPGs, which only existed in my mind...
Good god another one of these threads? I like this game, but it will not kill WoW and I doubt it will even be able to compete with WoW.
i want the wow killer thread killer to come along and kill all the threads like this.
Let the game be what it is, enjoy it if its good, dont if its bad but let it be what it is
Great are you not tired people posting threads like this all the time?This game "killer" is all about the hype of certain game to be realised.That was aion/tera/warhammer/AOC and dam more just enjoy games stop compare
Stop ruining threads like this... i haven't finished my popcorn yet
How could this game be as big as wow?
I mean noone knows about rift... When Wow released it had a massive pre-installed battle.net fanbase.
I honestly think people should stop worrying about wow and worry about this game even being enjoyable lol.
I like what imk seeing in Rift but honestly it reminds me of a mmo mash up of all the games that tried to capture wows playerbase but couldnt.
I watch rift videos and I see EQ2, Vanguard, Lotro, Aoc ... all games that struggled to even have more than 300k subs...
And Rift is supposed to suddenly be the next WoW killer?
IM telling you this right now, Rift will release to a luke warm reception and be damn near forgotten when Tor & GW2 release.
Kinda like how CoH and FFXI are good mmos but noone ever talks about them, they have steady playerbases and are respected but you never really hear about them... that will be rift.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP