I had good times as a fr00b in AO. I played for around a year or so back in 2006-7ish. I enjoyed all the fr00b classes that were offered.
Same as. Had some really good times in Ao without spending a penny. The froob experiance is as good as any f2p out there if you can see past the graphics and the general clunkynes of the old girl. If the U.I has been updated I may pop in for another go.
I am happy to see people here who are enjoying AO. Why people would come here bashing & questioning our MMO experienc is beyond my understanding. In any case, Anarchy Online has gone through massive changes, and more are in the pipeline. I see alot of newbs on newbie island, so all these unfair comments about the game is dead should not be taken serious by anyone, especially the newbs.
AO has a fantastic F2P part, by far most to offer by any other game outthere. There are no "tricks" behind the F2P part, but you will of course get acces the more content (expansions) by going for the full game with subscription. As I see it, I would be more than happy with the F2P part if it werent for me being "there" at its release. You will actually get full access to the 'vanilla' content of AO just by F2P (froobs) which is just tremendous.
Again I will say that the MMO genre is in need of games like AO. There are no complex MMO's in work, not as far as I know, and if AO should die, lots of cool game mechanics would be gone from the MMO world I am afraid. There are other complex games, but what AO offers is, at least by my experience, unique. I am also very excited to see what they can do with new expansions after the new GFX engine is impleted. I belive (and hope) that it could be really fantastic GFX in that, considering they dont have to take old GFX content into consideration then. I am no programmer, but I am allowed to hope
I am also impressed by the ingame browser for the item shop; You know it is made by a 3rd party company? No chance FC would spend money on something like that if they had long term plans to improve the game. I refuse to belive so at least.
Game seems healthy, lots of ingame people around and they extremely helpful. All those things are signs that game is alive and heading into a good direction. Regardless of all the doomsayers here. Try ask ask lots of newbie questions on any major themepark MMO, even on RP servers. Good luck with getting 'lots' of helpful advices. Either its LOTRO or WoW. None of them are even close to the community on RK1 (Atlantean)
but the performance i get is almost the same and slow as my old p4 system. It's just not optimize for modern pc.
Population wise, last few years ago when i play Rome blue was bustling with people and yalm flying around. Earlier this year when i created a froob acc to check out the game everyone told me "only city left populated with player is borelis". Trading and crafting suffer the most from low pop as i was struggling to twink my char with higher level implant.
GFX upgrade last i read was only going to revamp the terrain and head model for character leaving almost 90% of the game texture the same.
UI wise thou clunky and outdated i can live with it. But what i can tell you is that almost everyone i try to get to play this game with me is turn off by it's UI and gfx.
Leveling imbalance is cause by overpower and unbalance new expansion set. You mention, back in the days of vanila AO it's way harder and more meaningful to reach level 100 than nowadays. What i don't understand is why the dev make the great content in vanila AO worthless by introducing powerleveling style expansion set.
AO to me is like when i 1st play command and conquer or warcraft II....i still have fond memory and how good looking the game is when i play it even until now....but ask any teenager to play it now, they would be turn off by the graphic. Thus our judgement is often clouded by our perception of it and the wow factor it gave us when we play it back then. Back when i 1st play AO around 2002 or 2003 the graphic for me is consider top notch. AO need a revamp like the monkey island adventure game series to appeal to the masses again otherwise it'll only be a few geezer like us that still play them.
I enjoy AO a lot and pointing out it's flaw does not equate into bashing the game. Making the game sound good even thou it seriously need to improve a lot is just pure blind fanboism. My motto is even the best product can be improve much less one of the oldest mmo still kicking right now.
I am sorry to hear youre lagging with that setup, especially since it is not far from my own rig. My game runs absolulutely lag free and is very "tight". I am wondering if those new intel CPU's really that great? Considering I am having i7 and my son has i3. I know that AO is CPU dependant, but I am really amazed that you are reporting lag with your rig. I am no PC expert, I have no clue other than install & remove programs, my only purpose is to play on my PC as use the web. I go absolutely ballistic when PC goes down, so I am in need of a backup one too.
May I ask if you are a mouseclicker? If so, I do fully understand you are dissapointed with the UI, cause it is terrible for that purpose. For keybinders, it is absolutely in the top.
Regarding the UI; I have always been picky about the UI. AO's UI is very hard to "get into" but the fact that everything now can be configured & moved makes it really awesome. I am constantly tuning my UI's, all game. It is almost the part I am spending most effort to master, cause every improvement makes me a better player. A good UI setup are underestimated by too many. Play around with it, move windows, rezise etc etc until you are pleased. On top of that I can assign keys better in AO than I can in games like LOTRO, AOC & WoW.
The only "upgrade" I would suggest to the UI in AO, would be to remove all "option" buttons from the UI, and rather add them to an option panel which would appear when you hit the ESC button. Cant see much more needed improvement than that. Anyways, the UI os more of taste than it would be of a problem, at least for experienced players. I do see it hard to get into for newbs, and it should be made easier to get into, more similar to modern AAA MMO's, but still keep the core features.
Edit; Again, saying AO is not optimized for "modern PC's" is wrong.
I suspect the problems lies on the users side, not AO's fault. Why else should I be able to run 4 clients at simultaneously with no lag, while you report lag with one single client with that PC? I have Windows 7 64bit Premium btw if that could be the reason?
I'm gonna give the game a spin if they manage to keep their promise and deliver the gfx upgrade in spring next year.
My concern for the UI and the game in general is more toward getting new player into playing AO. As for me i can life with the gfx due to it's gameplay and i can deal with it's UI well due to the fact that i took my time to learn it. But all these concern of mine are to help improve AO not only for die hard fans but also appeal to the new potential AO player.
AO now is a shadow of it's former hey day.
Imagine what a TOTAL gfx revamp and intuitive UI like modern mmo nowadays could do for AO. It would put the game on the map again. Thou i have no idea how they going to fix the expansion set demolishing the classic AO content and making lv1-100 almost meaningless.
I also laugh so hard (LMFAO) at type of people that have said the following crap before in time:
"Oh no I can't run AO with my setup am so stupid to fix it"
"My computer can't run AO. AO must be the problem, although I suppose I could check drivers for hardware but am too lazy"
"Coming from someone who probably hasnt played it in 5 years." (the one with the sissy picture of sailor moon on the avatar probably plays Final Fantasy)
Some retarded people that keep making post ala mind F ing.
Comments suchs as "Stay on Topic" or "Read the first post" or "You don't understand is not nonsense" LMFAO
AO is for people that like complexity at is finest and not some easy slack and lash MMO's that a 10 year old kid can beat you right from the get go. It may not have the graphics of the best MMO out there. Or the addiction over quality (wow)
All the people that said that AO looks like crap. Yes graphics are crap and yes it will never look like next gen MMO but it's am awesome crap to thinker with by making your alts uber. Unlike other games that force everyone to wear the high end armor or to grind level to 80 in a few days/hours.
People that keep saying "ho but you could power leve in AO to level 150 in a few hours." So what? tell me a MMO that does have power level" (Perpetuum is an mmo that doesn't have power level from what my friend told me) yea try to power level to 210
Making comments like "but Iseed the player base is dead" Heck Every day I play there are alot of people that want buffs, help, etc.. There is always people in borealis, athens, the grid, outside the grids. How can you determinated the player base is dead. What is the number that would make you please. what if the game doesnt have 12 million just because you don't hear AO saying like " ho yea we have 12 million player so the game is not dead" that doesn't mean the game is FUBAR
Heck my brother still play Ultima Online, talk about crap graphics or player base. Game is awsome btw but I like AO better
Improving of the UI so it would be easier to understand for newbs should definately be some major concern for FC, I agree. I remember when I brought a friend from WoW to AO, he kept spinning the very first moment he started to move. He franatically spammed every key and really thought AO would react just as his toons in WoW. He lost his interest in 2 minutes unfortunately. This was 1 year ago. I am still trying to get him back, and I wont give up. He just had no patience to "get into" it, so it was a bad experience for him immediately. He is though, in the category "what does MMO mean" as 90% of all WoW gamers are ( no offense, I was guild leader until recently before I quit).
The first minutes are vital for newbs. If they are dissapointed, they leave. Most newb who enter AO for the first time, understand what "MMO" means, and they are also prolly well known to the fact that there are over 400 different MMO games, so why waste time on something that doesnt seem to work in the first place. Those who are a little patient though, are well rewarded though, as I said, cause I find the UI great, but hard to understand. I got this "aha" experience for the first time when I played SWG at its release; I thought SWG only could offer "arrow" movements. Then one day after fiddling with its options I noticed "FPS style" or something like that. It was a massive increase in my gaming experience, and after that I try to get into the UI asap whatsoever game. If I find it sucky (like DAOC) I leave, regardless of what game offers.
(please, no DAOC discussion; I know addons can fix the UI there, but that is too much to ask from a newb)
AO is probably one of the best MMO around but to say they don't have a problem with scaling is BS.
I haven't played in a year (or so) but I go back from time to time and it still amaze me how complete and complex the game is, which is great...
I love they're updating it, maybe they'll fix some bugs that have been killing this game since day one... and let's be honest here, if it wasn't for the worst mmo launch in history this game would probably be more popular since it's the only decent "modern" mmo on the market.
AO is probably one of the best MMO around but to say they don't have a problem with scaling is BS.
I haven't played in a year (or so) but I go back from time to time and it still amaze me how complete and complex the game is, which is great...
I love they're updating it, maybe they'll fix some bugs that have been killing this game since day one... and let's be honest here, if it wasn't for the worst mmo launch in history this game would probably be more popular since it's the only decent "modern" mmo on the market.
Scaling? Sorry, I don't understand. Explain please. It's obvious that I havent played the game enough last years
AO is probably one of the best MMO around but to say they don't have a problem with scaling is BS.
I haven't played in a year (or so) but I go back from time to time and it still amaze me how complete and complex the game is, which is great...
I love they're updating it, maybe they'll fix some bugs that have been killing this game since day one... and let's be honest here, if it wasn't for the worst mmo launch in history this game would probably be more popular since it's the only decent "modern" mmo on the market.
Scaling? Sorry, I don't understand. Explain please. It's obvious that I havent played the game enough last years
Even Means has pointed out that part of the reason for updating the engine is AO doesn't play nice with most newer hardware. Video cards made the last few years don't natively support DX7 fully anymore, if at all. Nvidia was the last card manufacturer to keep a DX 7 "emulator" or "wrapper" in their drivers, ATI dropped it a long time before. One reason ATI is notorious among AO players for being "finicky" with AO.
Some people have to do all sorts of "tweaks" just to get AO to recognize their new cards.
Fact is, many get a better experience playing AO on an 8 year old computer ( i.e. one built around the time of AO's heyday) than they would with a computer built right this minute with the best modern hardware.
One of the reasons AO has managed to hang on so long is BECAUSE those people playing on 8 year old computers, many of them since launch 9 years ago , can enjoy it fully. AO will be losing a sizeable chunk of its "veteran" players when the engine update goes live simply because of this.
Funcom is banking on more people willing to play an 9 year old old-school mmo with partially updated graphics than those that are dedicated to the game but will leave because they can't play any more.
Time will tell if they'll succeed.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Okay, understand more now. BUT; if game continues to cater the current population and neglecting news with modern PC's to play the game, it will die. There will only be people leaving game, and fewer who can enter it just because that newer pc's aint supporting DX7. So obviously FC has to make a new engine to be avoid game dwindle and die. After all, who are playing MMO's today, on 7 year old computers in the first place, but the some few of the AO population?
Thankfully my pc has a GeForce card, and I will never have anything else as I feel thats the best option regardless what game to play. This time I am really happy for that, cause I actually did not know all this about the DX 7 drivers. Well I knew there was some problems with the DX 7, and that it was outdated, but not the core of this, like you explained.
Again, I find what you say encouraging, and I am sure that FC will in the end have to upgrade the GFX engine just to be able to attract new players. Good good I'd say. Some might leave, but I think those will be fast replaced with a larger amount of new players anyways so I personally have no big concerns about that particular part.
I now belive even more than before, that the new engine is in progress and will be impleted. Game cannot run for too long with no DX support, that is quite obvious. One day there might be so severe problems that barely any PC's are able to run the client. Fortunately I am able to run 4 clients with no lag. Too bad for others that have chosen ATI cards. I have my faith in FC regarding the new engine. They are investing alot of effort in the game after all. So why do that in case they have no long term plans? I think that the new GFX engine would be most welcome by the majority of MMO gamers. Ofc there will be some angry fanbois, but in most cases those who cry loudest are generally the fewest. I am now even more eager to see the new GFX engine impleted.
I am sorry to hear youre lagging with that setup, especially since it is not far from my own rig. My game runs absolulutely lag free and is very "tight".
You're full of sh*t. It is a well known fact that AO is not optimized to run on modern PCs. I can run 4 versions of EvE Online on my computer while multi-tasking, but AO runs like crap because it is old. AO ran better on my old Sony Vaio desktop from 2002 than it does on my current computer. The game is OUTDATED and was left to die a slow death by Funcom years ago.
From your response to my last post, it is quite obvious that you are a shill. There is no point in a reasonable discussion. This game is great at its core but the monicker "Failcom" pretty much explains what happened here. If they ever come to their senses and make Anarchy Online 2, I will be there, but this AO has no hope.
I am sorry to hear youre lagging with that setup, especially since it is not far from my own rig. My game runs absolulutely lag free and is very "tight".
You're full of sh*t. It is a well known fact that AO is not optimized to run on modern PCs. I can run 4 versions of EvE Online on my computer while multi-tasking, but AO runs like crap because it is old. AO ran better on my old Sony Vaio desktop from 2002 than it does on my current computer. The game is OUTDATED and was left to die a slow death by Funcom years ago.
From your response to my last post, it is quite obvious that you are a shill. There is no point in a reasonable discussion. This game is great at its core but the monicker "Failcom" pretty much explains what happened here. If they ever come to their senses and make Anarchy Online 2, I will be there, but this AO has no hope.
I am not sure whether to laugh or to cry, or even be angry. You can PM me, get to know ALL my current login toons, we can go out hunt. I am now at level 29 with a fixer, got my 203 doc as its personal slave, and my 3rd is in Fair Trade, sitting in front of the bank in Borealis. I can as well log in one other toon, a famous fixer (think it was the first fixer professional), but I need to reactivate that account, as I see no more use than running 3 accounts same time. (Getting drunk here, and quite enganged into this, as I see too much unfair bashing of AO)
Please, refrain from these accusations, send me a PM and I can show you this ingame. If I am unable to provide you with this, I you are free to post further info about my "shit". Okay? I can also provide you with a screenshot of my DXDIAG if you would like. If youre not interested in this, youre just another basher of this game. I really hope I wam wrong
Deal? If you dont belive me, anyone else are free to PM to check this out. I used to bash this game, alot. Years ago. Check my threads. There still is a thread where I butcher AO. Today the game really deliver.
PS: Got nothing to hide. So if I am allowed, and if I am not breaking any RoC, can I post any info here about my toons, like at least name? Just wondering. Any moderator who could provide help here as I am not keen to use the report tool
I am sorry to hear youre lagging with that setup, especially since it is not far from my own rig. My game runs absolulutely lag free and is very "tight".
You're full of sh*t. It is a well known fact that AO is not optimized to run on modern PCs. I can run 4 versions of EvE Online on my computer while multi-tasking, but AO runs like crap because it is old. AO ran better on my old Sony Vaio desktop from 2002 than it does on my current computer. The game is OUTDATED and was left to die a slow death by Funcom years ago.
From your response to my last post, it is quite obvious that you are a shill. There is no point in a reasonable discussion. This game is great at its core but the monicker "Failcom" pretty much explains what happened here. If they ever come to their senses and make Anarchy Online 2, I will be there, but this AO has no hope.
I am not sure whether to laugh or to cry, or even be angry. You can PM me, get to know ALL my current login toons, we can go out hunt. I am now at level 29 with a fixer, got my 203 doc as its personal slave, and my 3rd is in Fair Trade, sitting in front of the bank in Borealis. I can as well log in one other toon, a famous fixer (think it was the first fixer professional), but I need to reactivate that account, as I see no more use than running 3 accounts same time. (Getting drunk here, and quite enganged into this, as I see too much unfair bashing of AO)
Please, refrain from these accusations, send me a PM and I can show you this ingame. If I am unable to provide you with this, I you are free to post further info about my "shit". Okay? I can also provide you with a screenshot of my DXDIAG if you would like. If youre not interested in this, youre just another basher of this game. I really hope I wam wrong
Deal? If you dont belive me, anyone else are free to PM to check this out. I used to bash this game, alot. Years ago. Check my threads. There still is a thread where I butcher AO. Today the game really deliver.
PS: Got nothing to hide. So if I am allowed, and if I am not breaking any RoC, can I post any info here about my toons, like at least name? Just wondering. Any moderator who could provide help here as I am not keen to use the report tool
Cheers!
-Chris
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Is this your feeble attempt to proclaim "I am not a shill, please believe me?" You speak nonsense, plain and simple. Maybe you're not a shill but a deluded fan.
Noone really bashes this game, there is no reason to. Just the vets who are critical of the mistakes that Funcom made and the issues that have taken years to even attempt to resolve. This was my first MMO and I came back to it two times. It's a shadow of its former self. I remember when Bronto Burger was packed with teams grouping up and you had rogue PVP twinks bust it and cause carnage. Now it's just the same crew of twinks hanging around Bor and that's it.
I would actually still dabble in the game, if it did not run like crap on a modern PC. I'm sorry, but apparently my Intel Quad 9550 with 4GB DDR2 RAM and 1GB DDR3 Graphics just are not enough to handle this game. Guess I should replace my PC with an antique from the year 2000.
This game's outdated client is probably its number one problem. Second, the population is weak. Stop trying to argue it, it's a fact. Funcom has little resources put on AO and have pretty much abandoned the game since focusing on AoC (a classic Failcom move). The game's directors have promised a new GFX upgrade for almost 5 years. The UI isn't the best, the graphics are just too outdated and the game could use some modern MMO features like a centralized marketing and proper mail system (which I think was implemented)
Noone is arguing about the depth of the game. It's great. But it needs a revamp. If Funcom cannot see the sense in revamping this game, then I simply question its future.
Just because AO don't have the same subscribers as WOW it doesnt mean the game is dead.
I mean SWG still has people playing and the game has become F ing POS.
What numbers? The current population numbers. If this type of game was in high demand as you claim, it would seem to me that the population would be growing (or at least, holding steady), rather than shrinking. Players are moving overwhelmingly towards games like WoW which offer the fun without the pointless complexity that appeals to a tiny, tiny part of the MMORPG population.
Great. Another bitter fanboi with no clue about PC's entering here only for some mindless bashing. Game runs absolutely perfect. Like I said; I am running 3-4 clients simlultaenously, no lag. Havent tried more as it isnt of any interest. I asked in the chat some days ago, whether it was only me & my son who were able to run the game lagfree; no single person reported a problem. One even reported to "only being able to run 7 clients, but on the 8th it became laggy". If you are using ATI, sorry, your loss. No sane hardcore gamer would do that.
Then you whine about population. I have not any place here said the population is like back at its release, so stop twisting upon my words. What is for sure, is that the populations is alot higher than I have seen it in many years. RK1 wise. Dunno whether you are/were on RK2, but RK1 sure is bustling with life. Have you actually played the game last years at all?? People all over the place. I havent seen as many online since the days I left it for WoW back in 2004, which means that game is definately far away from "dead". Maybe you used to play on the German server? You know that server merged with RK1?
Whatever. Now I fully understand why AO (RK1) has become such a good place to be after apparently so many bitter (& useless) players are gone. Community is excellent these days. Each day there are someone commenting in the chats how great they think the community is. I am very pleased to see that the changes FC made to AO has gotten rid of lots of people who were nothing but bringing the game & community down the sink. I still remember few years ago when I had a go at RK2; worst MMO experience ever. Full of trolls and bitter fanbois. I remember RK2 so bad that I would not even compare RK1 to RK2 as well as I am strongly advicing people to stay away from RK2 in case the stituation is unchanged.
Go ahead; whine until you are blue! We are lots of people who are having a great time & lots of fun in AO. Good luck to try convince us that "you are right". It is almost amusing, cause your arguments are utterly fail. Your whine & nag is a great reminder of why the game developers should not listen to you. Cause that 'was' a problem; spoiled fanbois a constant gnall in the ears of the developers the early years. A major mistake was to listen to this minority. It almost ended the game. Guess what; noone bothers about you anymore. You were no asset to the game before, and you are certainly no asset or a part of the future for the AO now. Youre just a bad echo from the early days. Thankfully the future looks quite bright for us who are enjoying AO!
If you are using ATI, sorry, your loss. No sane hardcore gamer would do that.
Firstly you are a very rude, arrogant chap, and the tone of your post was totally unneeded. You could have said what you needed to say in far fewer words, and been far more diplomatic and reasonable about it. But I guess this is the Internet, so you feel your anonymity allows you to get away with being an arrogant, rude "person"?
Secondly I consider myself a "hardcore" gamer and have used ATI cards exclusively for years. They have a far better capacity for overclocking - especially when water cooling is factored in - as NVidia cards tend to be clocked nearer to their thresholds by default. ATI cards perform far better at lower and standard resolutions and always have. ATIs architectures tend to be far better thought out; for example, the 6000 series right now is set up to support future DX10 and DX11 games far better than the current architecture in use by NVidia, meaning that at comparable price points ATI cards have a far longer lifespan (which has been noted by MOST if not all reviewers and analysts). ATI cards tend to be the cards pioneering technology (most notably ATI have generally picked up new GDDR versions well before NVidia and at lower price points). In short, there are many benefits to using ATI cards over NVidia cards as a hardcore gamer. You may not agree with them, but that doesn't make them any less valid ;-)
My point is that making sweeping statements about what other gamers do, regardless of your own personal stance on the matter, is really silly, especially when you provide no other real evidence outside of mad fanboyism.
As a refugee from DAOC.....I have gone for a deep meaningful game as well. Vanguard. I'm glad to see this post and will definately look into the game. For those not finding AO to their liking...there is a great game awaiting in Vanguard.yes ther is a free 14 day trial.
Just because AO don't have the same subscribers as WOW it doesnt mean the game is dead.
I mean SWG still has people playing and the game has become F ing POS.
Both games may well be typical examples of the fallacy of sunk costs. I've played both games, and had fun in them. But after the NGE, it was time to go. AO was fun(and I'm always amazed that Funcom managed to come back from what has to be the worst launch in major MMO history), but its time has passed. I've been hearing about the new engine updates for literally years now. That one of the founders has left can be taken several ways. A rat fleeing a sinking ship comes to mind. ^^ In any event, I wish those still playing all the best.
Firstly you are a very rude, arrogant chap, and the tone of your post was totally unneeded. You could have said what you needed to say in far fewer words, and been far more diplomatic and reasonable about it.
After a good nights sleep, I fully back my arguements up. It is hard though, finding the correct words since I am not a native english speaker. By no means; I am not after any 'retaliation', but players like the one I replied to is definately of no asset to any MMO game whatsoever. The fewer of those in the MMO's I play, the better the gaming experience will be for me. I made that pretty much crystal clear. This is however my PERSONAL OPINION. Simple as that.
But I guess this is the Internet, so you feel your anonymity allows you to get away with being an arrogant, rude "person"?
What kind of lame threat is this? Don't make me laugh! Last thing I am afraid of are some geeks on the internet. What would you do to me anyway, if you had my personal info? Please elaborate, as I am very curious about this. Or are you just another coward hiding behind your anonymity as you are describing it?
If you had taken the effort to read whole thread, you would know I am more than willing to give out personal info to those who send me a PM just to proove I am able to run 4 clients. So please, don't come here with your morale speech & lame hidden threats to me; youre no better than the previous.
Secondly I consider myself a "hardcore" gamer and have used ATI cards exclusively for years.
That doesnt make AO a bad game. It is your own responsibility to have a PC that is able to run the programs you install. Definately not FunCom's.
They have a far better capacity for overclocking - especially when water cooling is factored in - as NVidia cards tend to be clocked nearer to their thresholds by default. ATI cards perform far better at lower and standard resolutions and always have. ATIs architectures tend to be far better thought out; for example, the 6000 series right now is set up to support future DX10 and DX11 games far better than the current architecture in use by NVidia, meaning that at comparable price points ATI cards have a far longer lifespan (which has been noted by MOST if not all reviewers and analysts). ATI cards tend to be the cards pioneering technology (most notably ATI have generally picked up new GDDR versions well before NVidia and at lower price points). In short, there are many benefits to using ATI cards over NVidia cards as a hardcore gamer. You may not agree with them, but that doesn't make them any less valid ;-)
Spend your time overclocking. I have absolutely NO interest in that. This is exactly why I am using GeForce cards, cause they are the most stable GFX cards on the marked, and thus I fully expect them to deliver. I have NEVER been in any need to tamper with my PC's, nor am I willing to forfeit the guarantee on my products (which are quite tremendous in Norway). After 2-3 years I reckon my PC obsolete, then I buy a new one.
My point is that making sweeping statements about what other gamers do, regardless of your own personal stance on the matter, is really silly, especially when you provide no other real evidence outside of mad fanboyism.
Like you, huh? Why come here bashing AO's performance when you already know ATI suck running it? That's a paradox itself, and just shows what you ATI fanbois & former bitter ex-AO players are seeking here. Which makes me wonder; are you even an AO player, or are you just an ATI fanboi? If you are an AO player, are you too unable to run AO smoothly? I hope so, after all your fiddling and "knowledge", or else your praise about ATI would look pretty stupid.
To all those who reads the utter nonsense & lies from these bitter ex-players; don't listen to them.
Game runs absolutely perfect, community is great, and I havent seen as many people last night in Borealis since it's release. Both me & son are mighty impressed by the population. In fact, I had a hard time convincing him to return to AO since he too had heard it was "so few playing AO" (my son is, like I was, a former WoW fanboi). I have only been playing for over a week or so, but the population seem to having a steady increase day by day. I can also tell you that I have talked to players moving from RK2 to RK1, and they are quite amazed by the community as well as how many players theres around and especially how large the neutral population is.
Just because AO don't have the same subscribers as WOW it doesnt mean the game is dead.
I mean SWG still has people playing and the game has become F ing POS.
Both games may well be typical examples of the fallacy of sunk costs. I've played both games, and had fun in them. But after the NGE, it was time to go. AO was fun(and I'm always amazed that Funcom managed to come back from what has to be the worst launch in major MMO history), but its time has passed. I've been hearing about the new engine updates for literally years now. That one of the founders has left can be taken several ways. A rat fleeing a sinking ship comes to mind. ^^ In any event, I wish those still playing all the best.
I strongly suggest you should check out the game before you make wrong assumptions like this. Game is very active, I can promise you that. Why not spend some time updating your information before posting, considering you are wishing us who plays it 'the best'?
I know all of us like to think we're right all the time.
But
there is a reason why AO vet are voicing their discontent.
As for the sloopy performance issue, when i encounter it 1st thing i do is check the official forum and guess what....a lot of people are having the same problem. I'm not sure if currently it's fix or not but based on your arguement i would say maybe it's fix now.
Contrary to your belief, we AO vet are fully functional human being just like you. When we see a dog shit, our brain can analyze just like you do and come to the conclusion that it is a pile of dog shit.
So instead of posting childish post like "don't believed those vet player they don't know shit" why don't you go to the official forum and maybe you can dig up on problem what we vet have face.
But i'm kinda happy for your blissfulness of the lame dev and their effort to improve the game.
Recent addition of cash shop selling armor bleh...
Just because AO don't have the same subscribers as WOW it doesnt mean the game is dead.
I mean SWG still has people playing and the game has become F ing POS.
Both games may well be typical examples of the fallacy of sunk costs. I've played both games, and had fun in them. But after the NGE, it was time to go. AO was fun(and I'm always amazed that Funcom managed to come back from what has to be the worst launch in major MMO history), but its time has passed. I've been hearing about the new engine updates for literally years now. That one of the founders has left can be taken several ways. A rat fleeing a sinking ship comes to mind. ^^ In any event, I wish those still playing all the best.
I strongly suggest you should check out the game before you make wrong assumptions like this. Game is very active, I can promise you that. Why not spend some time updating your information before posting, considering you are wishing us who plays it 'the best'?
No real reason to play AO any more. As I stated, I played it and had fun. But I've since moved on to other more modern games. If you still enjoy it, then more power to you.
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Coming from someone who probably hasnt played it in 5 years.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Same as. Had some really good times in Ao without spending a penny. The froob experiance is as good as any f2p out there if you can see past the graphics and the general clunkynes of the old girl. If the U.I has been updated I may pop in for another go.
I am currently active and yes I play the game for a few years now.
I am happy to see people here who are enjoying AO. Why people would come here bashing & questioning our MMO experienc is beyond my understanding. In any case, Anarchy Online has gone through massive changes, and more are in the pipeline. I see alot of newbs on newbie island, so all these unfair comments about the game is dead should not be taken serious by anyone, especially the newbs.
AO has a fantastic F2P part, by far most to offer by any other game outthere. There are no "tricks" behind the F2P part, but you will of course get acces the more content (expansions) by going for the full game with subscription. As I see it, I would be more than happy with the F2P part if it werent for me being "there" at its release. You will actually get full access to the 'vanilla' content of AO just by F2P (froobs) which is just tremendous.
Again I will say that the MMO genre is in need of games like AO. There are no complex MMO's in work, not as far as I know, and if AO should die, lots of cool game mechanics would be gone from the MMO world I am afraid. There are other complex games, but what AO offers is, at least by my experience, unique. I am also very excited to see what they can do with new expansions after the new GFX engine is impleted. I belive (and hope) that it could be really fantastic GFX in that, considering they dont have to take old GFX content into consideration then. I am no programmer, but I am allowed to hope
I am also impressed by the ingame browser for the item shop; You know it is made by a 3rd party company? No chance FC would spend money on something like that if they had long term plans to improve the game. I refuse to belive so at least.
Game seems healthy, lots of ingame people around and they extremely helpful. All those things are signs that game is alive and heading into a good direction. Regardless of all the doomsayers here. Try ask ask lots of newbie questions on any major themepark MMO, even on RP servers. Good luck with getting 'lots' of helpful advices. Either its LOTRO or WoW. None of them are even close to the community on RK1 (Atlantean)
Cheers & GG!
-Chris
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I'm running
quadcore 9550
460gtx
4gb ram
but the performance i get is almost the same and slow as my old p4 system. It's just not optimize for modern pc.
Population wise, last few years ago when i play Rome blue was bustling with people and yalm flying around. Earlier this year when i created a froob acc to check out the game everyone told me "only city left populated with player is borelis". Trading and crafting suffer the most from low pop as i was struggling to twink my char with higher level implant.
GFX upgrade last i read was only going to revamp the terrain and head model for character leaving almost 90% of the game texture the same.
UI wise thou clunky and outdated i can live with it. But what i can tell you is that almost everyone i try to get to play this game with me is turn off by it's UI and gfx.
Leveling imbalance is cause by overpower and unbalance new expansion set. You mention, back in the days of vanila AO it's way harder and more meaningful to reach level 100 than nowadays. What i don't understand is why the dev make the great content in vanila AO worthless by introducing powerleveling style expansion set.
AO to me is like when i 1st play command and conquer or warcraft II....i still have fond memory and how good looking the game is when i play it even until now....but ask any teenager to play it now, they would be turn off by the graphic. Thus our judgement is often clouded by our perception of it and the wow factor it gave us when we play it back then. Back when i 1st play AO around 2002 or 2003 the graphic for me is consider top notch. AO need a revamp like the monkey island adventure game series to appeal to the masses again otherwise it'll only be a few geezer like us that still play them.
I enjoy AO a lot and pointing out it's flaw does not equate into bashing the game. Making the game sound good even thou it seriously need to improve a lot is just pure blind fanboism. My motto is even the best product can be improve much less one of the oldest mmo still kicking right now.
I am sorry to hear youre lagging with that setup, especially since it is not far from my own rig. My game runs absolulutely lag free and is very "tight". I am wondering if those new intel CPU's really that great? Considering I am having i7 and my son has i3. I know that AO is CPU dependant, but I am really amazed that you are reporting lag with your rig. I am no PC expert, I have no clue other than install & remove programs, my only purpose is to play on my PC as use the web. I go absolutely ballistic when PC goes down, so I am in need of a backup one too.
May I ask if you are a mouseclicker? If so, I do fully understand you are dissapointed with the UI, cause it is terrible for that purpose. For keybinders, it is absolutely in the top.
Regarding the UI; I have always been picky about the UI. AO's UI is very hard to "get into" but the fact that everything now can be configured & moved makes it really awesome. I am constantly tuning my UI's, all game. It is almost the part I am spending most effort to master, cause every improvement makes me a better player. A good UI setup are underestimated by too many. Play around with it, move windows, rezise etc etc until you are pleased. On top of that I can assign keys better in AO than I can in games like LOTRO, AOC & WoW.
The only "upgrade" I would suggest to the UI in AO, would be to remove all "option" buttons from the UI, and rather add them to an option panel which would appear when you hit the ESC button. Cant see much more needed improvement than that. Anyways, the UI os more of taste than it would be of a problem, at least for experienced players. I do see it hard to get into for newbs, and it should be made easier to get into, more similar to modern AAA MMO's, but still keep the core features.
Edit; Again, saying AO is not optimized for "modern PC's" is wrong.
I suspect the problems lies on the users side, not AO's fault. Why else should I be able to run 4 clients at simultaneously with no lag, while you report lag with one single client with that PC? I have Windows 7 64bit Premium btw if that could be the reason?
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I'm gonna give the game a spin if they manage to keep their promise and deliver the gfx upgrade in spring next year.
My concern for the UI and the game in general is more toward getting new player into playing AO. As for me i can life with the gfx due to it's gameplay and i can deal with it's UI well due to the fact that i took my time to learn it. But all these concern of mine are to help improve AO not only for die hard fans but also appeal to the new potential AO player.
AO now is a shadow of it's former hey day.
Imagine what a TOTAL gfx revamp and intuitive UI like modern mmo nowadays could do for AO. It would put the game on the map again. Thou i have no idea how they going to fix the expansion set demolishing the classic AO content and making lv1-100 almost meaningless.
My current set up is as follow:
Windows 7 ultimate edition
Intel core I7 CPU
Nvidia GTX470
Corsair XMS3 8 gigs of ram
OCz SSD 100 GB
Don't tell me that you can't run AO.
I also laugh so hard (LMFAO) at type of people that have said the following crap before in time:
"Oh no I can't run AO with my setup am so stupid to fix it"
"My computer can't run AO. AO must be the problem, although I suppose I could check drivers for hardware but am too lazy"
"Coming from someone who probably hasnt played it in 5 years." (the one with the sissy picture of sailor moon on the avatar probably plays Final Fantasy)
Some retarded people that keep making post ala mind F ing.
Comments suchs as "Stay on Topic" or "Read the first post" or "You don't understand is not nonsense" LMFAO
AO is for people that like complexity at is finest and not some easy slack and lash MMO's that a 10 year old kid can beat you right from the get go. It may not have the graphics of the best MMO out there. Or the addiction over quality (wow)
All the people that said that AO looks like crap. Yes graphics are crap and yes it will never look like next gen MMO but it's am awesome crap to thinker with by making your alts uber. Unlike other games that force everyone to wear the high end armor or to grind level to 80 in a few days/hours.
People that keep saying "ho but you could power leve in AO to level 150 in a few hours." So what? tell me a MMO that does have power level" (Perpetuum is an mmo that doesn't have power level from what my friend told me) yea try to power level to 210
Making comments like "but Iseed the player base is dead" Heck Every day I play there are alot of people that want buffs, help, etc.. There is always people in borealis, athens, the grid, outside the grids. How can you determinated the player base is dead. What is the number that would make you please. what if the game doesnt have 12 million just because you don't hear AO saying like " ho yea we have 12 million player so the game is not dead" that doesn't mean the game is FUBAR
Heck my brother still play Ultima Online, talk about crap graphics or player base. Game is awsome btw but I like AO better
Long live AO
Improving of the UI so it would be easier to understand for newbs should definately be some major concern for FC, I agree. I remember when I brought a friend from WoW to AO, he kept spinning the very first moment he started to move. He franatically spammed every key and really thought AO would react just as his toons in WoW. He lost his interest in 2 minutes unfortunately. This was 1 year ago. I am still trying to get him back, and I wont give up. He just had no patience to "get into" it, so it was a bad experience for him immediately. He is though, in the category "what does MMO mean" as 90% of all WoW gamers are ( no offense, I was guild leader until recently before I quit).
The first minutes are vital for newbs. If they are dissapointed, they leave. Most newb who enter AO for the first time, understand what "MMO" means, and they are also prolly well known to the fact that there are over 400 different MMO games, so why waste time on something that doesnt seem to work in the first place. Those who are a little patient though, are well rewarded though, as I said, cause I find the UI great, but hard to understand. I got this "aha" experience for the first time when I played SWG at its release; I thought SWG only could offer "arrow" movements. Then one day after fiddling with its options I noticed "FPS style" or something like that. It was a massive increase in my gaming experience, and after that I try to get into the UI asap whatsoever game. If I find it sucky (like DAOC) I leave, regardless of what game offers.
(please, no DAOC discussion; I know addons can fix the UI there, but that is too much to ask from a newb)
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Come on...
AO is probably one of the best MMO around but to say they don't have a problem with scaling is BS.
I haven't played in a year (or so) but I go back from time to time and it still amaze me how complete and complex the game is, which is great...
I love they're updating it, maybe they'll fix some bugs that have been killing this game since day one... and let's be honest here, if it wasn't for the worst mmo launch in history this game would probably be more popular since it's the only decent "modern" mmo on the market.
Scaling? Sorry, I don't understand. Explain please. It's obvious that I havent played the game enough last years
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Even Means has pointed out that part of the reason for updating the engine is AO doesn't play nice with most newer hardware. Video cards made the last few years don't natively support DX7 fully anymore, if at all. Nvidia was the last card manufacturer to keep a DX 7 "emulator" or "wrapper" in their drivers, ATI dropped it a long time before. One reason ATI is notorious among AO players for being "finicky" with AO.
Some people have to do all sorts of "tweaks" just to get AO to recognize their new cards.
Fact is, many get a better experience playing AO on an 8 year old computer ( i.e. one built around the time of AO's heyday) than they would with a computer built right this minute with the best modern hardware.
One of the reasons AO has managed to hang on so long is BECAUSE those people playing on 8 year old computers, many of them since launch 9 years ago , can enjoy it fully. AO will be losing a sizeable chunk of its "veteran" players when the engine update goes live simply because of this.
Funcom is banking on more people willing to play an 9 year old old-school mmo with partially updated graphics than those that are dedicated to the game but will leave because they can't play any more.
Time will tell if they'll succeed.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Okay, understand more now. BUT; if game continues to cater the current population and neglecting news with modern PC's to play the game, it will die. There will only be people leaving game, and fewer who can enter it just because that newer pc's aint supporting DX7. So obviously FC has to make a new engine to be avoid game dwindle and die. After all, who are playing MMO's today, on 7 year old computers in the first place, but the some few of the AO population?
Thankfully my pc has a GeForce card, and I will never have anything else as I feel thats the best option regardless what game to play. This time I am really happy for that, cause I actually did not know all this about the DX 7 drivers. Well I knew there was some problems with the DX 7, and that it was outdated, but not the core of this, like you explained.
Again, I find what you say encouraging, and I am sure that FC will in the end have to upgrade the GFX engine just to be able to attract new players. Good good I'd say. Some might leave, but I think those will be fast replaced with a larger amount of new players anyways so I personally have no big concerns about that particular part.
I now belive even more than before, that the new engine is in progress and will be impleted. Game cannot run for too long with no DX support, that is quite obvious. One day there might be so severe problems that barely any PC's are able to run the client. Fortunately I am able to run 4 clients with no lag. Too bad for others that have chosen ATI cards. I have my faith in FC regarding the new engine. They are investing alot of effort in the game after all. So why do that in case they have no long term plans? I think that the new GFX engine would be most welcome by the majority of MMO gamers. Ofc there will be some angry fanbois, but in most cases those who cry loudest are generally the fewest. I am now even more eager to see the new GFX engine impleted.
Thanks for the explanation. Most appreciated.
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You're full of sh*t. It is a well known fact that AO is not optimized to run on modern PCs. I can run 4 versions of EvE Online on my computer while multi-tasking, but AO runs like crap because it is old. AO ran better on my old Sony Vaio desktop from 2002 than it does on my current computer. The game is OUTDATED and was left to die a slow death by Funcom years ago.
From your response to my last post, it is quite obvious that you are a shill. There is no point in a reasonable discussion. This game is great at its core but the monicker "Failcom" pretty much explains what happened here. If they ever come to their senses and make Anarchy Online 2, I will be there, but this AO has no hope.
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Played: Anarchy Online, WoW, Warhammer, AoC, Ryzom. Aion
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I am not sure whether to laugh or to cry, or even be angry. You can PM me, get to know ALL my current login toons, we can go out hunt. I am now at level 29 with a fixer, got my 203 doc as its personal slave, and my 3rd is in Fair Trade, sitting in front of the bank in Borealis. I can as well log in one other toon, a famous fixer (think it was the first fixer professional), but I need to reactivate that account, as I see no more use than running 3 accounts same time. (Getting drunk here, and quite enganged into this, as I see too much unfair bashing of AO)
Please, refrain from these accusations, send me a PM and I can show you this ingame. If I am unable to provide you with this, I you are free to post further info about my "shit". Okay? I can also provide you with a screenshot of my DXDIAG if you would like. If youre not interested in this, youre just another basher of this game. I really hope I wam wrong
Deal? If you dont belive me, anyone else are free to PM to check this out. I used to bash this game, alot. Years ago. Check my threads. There still is a thread where I butcher AO. Today the game really deliver.
PS: Got nothing to hide. So if I am allowed, and if I am not breaking any RoC, can I post any info here about my toons, like at least name? Just wondering. Any moderator who could provide help here as I am not keen to use the report tool
Cheers!
-Chris
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Is this your feeble attempt to proclaim "I am not a shill, please believe me?" You speak nonsense, plain and simple. Maybe you're not a shill but a deluded fan.
Noone really bashes this game, there is no reason to. Just the vets who are critical of the mistakes that Funcom made and the issues that have taken years to even attempt to resolve. This was my first MMO and I came back to it two times. It's a shadow of its former self. I remember when Bronto Burger was packed with teams grouping up and you had rogue PVP twinks bust it and cause carnage. Now it's just the same crew of twinks hanging around Bor and that's it.
I would actually still dabble in the game, if it did not run like crap on a modern PC. I'm sorry, but apparently my Intel Quad 9550 with 4GB DDR2 RAM and 1GB DDR3 Graphics just are not enough to handle this game. Guess I should replace my PC with an antique from the year 2000.
This game's outdated client is probably its number one problem. Second, the population is weak. Stop trying to argue it, it's a fact. Funcom has little resources put on AO and have pretty much abandoned the game since focusing on AoC (a classic Failcom move). The game's directors have promised a new GFX upgrade for almost 5 years. The UI isn't the best, the graphics are just too outdated and the game could use some modern MMO features like a centralized marketing and proper mail system (which I think was implemented)
Noone is arguing about the depth of the game. It's great. But it needs a revamp. If Funcom cannot see the sense in revamping this game, then I simply question its future.
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Played: Anarchy Online, WoW, Warhammer, AoC, Ryzom. Aion
Strongly Recommend: Ryzom, EvE, Allods Online
What numbers? The current population numbers. If this type of game was in high demand as you claim, it would seem to me that the population would be growing (or at least, holding steady), rather than shrinking. Players are moving overwhelmingly towards games like WoW which offer the fun without the pointless complexity that appeals to a tiny, tiny part of the MMORPG population.
Great. Another bitter fanboi with no clue about PC's entering here only for some mindless bashing. Game runs absolutely perfect. Like I said; I am running 3-4 clients simlultaenously, no lag. Havent tried more as it isnt of any interest. I asked in the chat some days ago, whether it was only me & my son who were able to run the game lagfree; no single person reported a problem. One even reported to "only being able to run 7 clients, but on the 8th it became laggy". If you are using ATI, sorry, your loss. No sane hardcore gamer would do that.
Then you whine about population. I have not any place here said the population is like back at its release, so stop twisting upon my words. What is for sure, is that the populations is alot higher than I have seen it in many years. RK1 wise. Dunno whether you are/were on RK2, but RK1 sure is bustling with life. Have you actually played the game last years at all?? People all over the place. I havent seen as many online since the days I left it for WoW back in 2004, which means that game is definately far away from "dead". Maybe you used to play on the German server? You know that server merged with RK1?
Whatever. Now I fully understand why AO (RK1) has become such a good place to be after apparently so many bitter (& useless) players are gone. Community is excellent these days. Each day there are someone commenting in the chats how great they think the community is. I am very pleased to see that the changes FC made to AO has gotten rid of lots of people who were nothing but bringing the game & community down the sink. I still remember few years ago when I had a go at RK2; worst MMO experience ever. Full of trolls and bitter fanbois. I remember RK2 so bad that I would not even compare RK1 to RK2 as well as I am strongly advicing people to stay away from RK2 in case the stituation is unchanged.
Go ahead; whine until you are blue! We are lots of people who are having a great time & lots of fun in AO. Good luck to try convince us that "you are right". It is almost amusing, cause your arguments are utterly fail. Your whine & nag is a great reminder of why the game developers should not listen to you. Cause that 'was' a problem; spoiled fanbois a constant gnall in the ears of the developers the early years. A major mistake was to listen to this minority. It almost ended the game. Guess what; noone bothers about you anymore. You were no asset to the game before, and you are certainly no asset or a part of the future for the AO now. Youre just a bad echo from the early days. Thankfully the future looks quite bright for us who are enjoying AO!
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Firstly you are a very rude, arrogant chap, and the tone of your post was totally unneeded. You could have said what you needed to say in far fewer words, and been far more diplomatic and reasonable about it. But I guess this is the Internet, so you feel your anonymity allows you to get away with being an arrogant, rude "person"?
Secondly I consider myself a "hardcore" gamer and have used ATI cards exclusively for years. They have a far better capacity for overclocking - especially when water cooling is factored in - as NVidia cards tend to be clocked nearer to their thresholds by default. ATI cards perform far better at lower and standard resolutions and always have. ATIs architectures tend to be far better thought out; for example, the 6000 series right now is set up to support future DX10 and DX11 games far better than the current architecture in use by NVidia, meaning that at comparable price points ATI cards have a far longer lifespan (which has been noted by MOST if not all reviewers and analysts). ATI cards tend to be the cards pioneering technology (most notably ATI have generally picked up new GDDR versions well before NVidia and at lower price points). In short, there are many benefits to using ATI cards over NVidia cards as a hardcore gamer. You may not agree with them, but that doesn't make them any less valid ;-)
My point is that making sweeping statements about what other gamers do, regardless of your own personal stance on the matter, is really silly, especially when you provide no other real evidence outside of mad fanboyism.
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As a refugee from DAOC.....I have gone for a deep meaningful game as well. Vanguard. I'm glad to see this post and will definately look into the game. For those not finding AO to their liking...there is a great game awaiting in Vanguard.yes ther is a free 14 day trial.
Both games may well be typical examples of the fallacy of sunk costs. I've played both games, and had fun in them. But after the NGE, it was time to go. AO was fun(and I'm always amazed that Funcom managed to come back from what has to be the worst launch in major MMO history), but its time has passed. I've been hearing about the new engine updates for literally years now. That one of the founders has left can be taken several ways. A rat fleeing a sinking ship comes to mind. ^^ In any event, I wish those still playing all the best.
To all those who reads the utter nonsense & lies from these bitter ex-players; don't listen to them.
Game runs absolutely perfect, community is great, and I havent seen as many people last night in Borealis since it's release. Both me & son are mighty impressed by the population. In fact, I had a hard time convincing him to return to AO since he too had heard it was "so few playing AO" (my son is, like I was, a former WoW fanboi). I have only been playing for over a week or so, but the population seem to having a steady increase day by day. I can also tell you that I have talked to players moving from RK2 to RK1, and they are quite amazed by the community as well as how many players theres around and especially how large the neutral population is.
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I strongly suggest you should check out the game before you make wrong assumptions like this. Game is very active, I can promise you that. Why not spend some time updating your information before posting, considering you are wishing us who plays it 'the best'?
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I know all of us like to think we're right all the time.
But
there is a reason why AO vet are voicing their discontent.
As for the sloopy performance issue, when i encounter it 1st thing i do is check the official forum and guess what....a lot of people are having the same problem. I'm not sure if currently it's fix or not but based on your arguement i would say maybe it's fix now.
Contrary to your belief, we AO vet are fully functional human being just like you. When we see a dog shit, our brain can analyze just like you do and come to the conclusion that it is a pile of dog shit.
So instead of posting childish post like "don't believed those vet player they don't know shit" why don't you go to the official forum and maybe you can dig up on problem what we vet have face.
But i'm kinda happy for your blissfulness of the lame dev and their effort to improve the game.
Recent addition of cash shop selling armor bleh...
No real reason to play AO any more. As I stated, I played it and had fun. But I've since moved on to other more modern games. If you still enjoy it, then more power to you.