I'm sorry but the community is why I do not like nor play World of Warcraft.. There is more douchebaggery present in that game than your average FPS Clan.. It seems that everyone who plays that game likes to use the "I play WoW and so do 200 million other account holders..(Including the gold sellers and bots), so I am cool and you are not! RageRageRage! I R POPULARZ NOW, YAYY!"
You play WoW.. So what? it "happens" to be the game with the most accounts created, doesn't make you anymore popular and cool for playing it.. LOL.. Some of yall just silly..
BTW, as only to pour salt into the wounds, the games I have been playing are.. GASP, F2P!!!!
Thats right.. You peoples worst enemy.. And I have been enjoying myself like no other.. xD
Your post reeks of prejudice. Have you even been part of the community? I have met many awesome people through playing wow (in game and in real life).
I'm sorry but the community is why I do not like nor play World of Warcraft.. There is more douchebaggery present in that game than your average FPS Clan.. It seems that everyone who plays that game likes to use the "I play WoW and so do 200 million other account holders..(Including the gold sellers and bots), so I am cool and you are not! RageRageRage! I R POPULARZ NOW, YAYY!"
You play WoW.. So what? it "happens" to be the game with the most accounts created, doesn't make you anymore popular and cool for playing it.. LOL.. Some of yall just silly..
BTW, as only to pour salt into the wounds, the games I have been playing are.. GASP, F2P!!!!
Thats right.. You peoples worst enemy.. And I have been enjoying myself like no other.. xD
Your post reeks of prejudice. Have you even been part of the community? I have met many awesome people through playing wow (in game and in real life).
Thats awesome.. However the phrase "Results may vary" comes to mind.. xD
I'm sorry but the community is why I do not like nor play World of Warcraft.. There is more douchebaggery present in that game than your average FPS Clan.. It seems that everyone who plays that game likes to use the "I play WoW and so do 200 million other account holders..(Including the gold sellers and bots), so I am cool and you are not! RageRageRage! I R POPULARZ NOW, YAYY!"
You play WoW.. So what? it "happens" to be the game with the most accounts created, doesn't make you anymore popular and cool for playing it.. LOL.. Some of yall just silly..
BTW, as only to pour salt into the wounds, the games I have been playing are.. GASP, F2P!!!!
Thats right.. You peoples worst enemy.. And I have been enjoying myself like no other.. xD
Your post reeks of prejudice. Have you even been part of the community? I have met many awesome people through playing wow (in game and in real life).
Thats awesome.. However the phrase "Results may vary" comes to mind.. xD
Exactly my point. Your implying that the whole wow community is rotten. I'm pointing out that it in fact isn't.
I'm sorry but the community is why I do not like nor play World of Warcraft.. There is more douchebaggery present in that game than your average FPS Clan.. It seems that everyone who plays that game likes to use the "I play WoW and so do 200 million other account holders..(Including the gold sellers and bots), so I am cool and you are not! RageRageRage! I R POPULARZ NOW, YAYY!"
You play WoW.. So what? it "happens" to be the game with the most accounts created, doesn't make you anymore popular and cool for playing it.. LOL.. Some of yall just silly..
BTW, as only to pour salt into the wounds, the games I have been playing are.. GASP, F2P!!!!
Thats right.. You peoples worst enemy.. And I have been enjoying myself like no other.. xD
Your post reeks of prejudice. Have you even been part of the community? I have met many awesome people through playing wow (in game and in real life).
Thats awesome.. However the phrase "Results may vary" comes to mind.. xD
Exactly my point. Your implying that the whole wow community is rotten. I'm pointing out that it in fact isn't.
I hate to stir the pot, but he did say "it seems" which is correct. After they introduced the whole cross realm lfg tool it "seemed" that most groups were just horrible. Sure maybe one in ten were good, but the majority were not. Same can be said for the community. The small amount of good, smart, and mature players are lost in all the horrible, immature, and players that just dont care anymore base of players. IMO its sad to see MMO's go in this fashion. There is some great games out there, but because people still want to play with others, they dont stick around. Vanguard comes to mind. Being one of the best games on the market, but because its so huge and small population (and the fact sony has done nothing with it) makes it not pleasing for new players.
I'm sorry but the community is why I do not like nor play World of Warcraft.. There is more douchebaggery present in that game than your average FPS Clan.. It seems that everyone who plays that game likes to use the "I play WoW and so do 200 million other account holders..(Including the gold sellers and bots), so I am cool and you are not! RageRageRage! I R POPULARZ NOW, YAYY!"
You play WoW.. So what? it "happens" to be the game with the most accounts created, doesn't make you anymore popular and cool for playing it.. LOL.. Some of yall just silly..
BTW, as only to pour salt into the wounds, the games I have been playing are.. GASP, F2P!!!!
Thats right.. You peoples worst enemy.. And I have been enjoying myself like no other.. xD
Your post reeks of prejudice. Have you even been part of the community? I have met many awesome people through playing wow (in game and in real life).
Thats awesome.. However the phrase "Results may vary" comes to mind.. xD
Exactly my point. Your implying that the whole wow community is rotten. I'm pointing out that it in fact isn't.
I hate to stir the pot, but he did say "it seems" which is correct. After they introduced the whole cross realm lfg tool it "seemed" that most groups were just horrible. Sure maybe one in ten were good, but the majority were not. Same can be said for the community. The small amount of good, smart, and mature players are lost in all the horrible, immature, and players that just dont care anymore base of players. IMO its sad to see MMO's go in this fashion. There is some great games out there, but because people still want to play with others, they dont stick around. Vanguard comes to mind. Being one of the best games on the market, but because its so huge and small population (and the fact sony has done nothing with it) makes it not pleasing for new players.
Still, it's a very ignorant statement to make. And spicing it up with sarcasm doesn't make it better. A very narrow minded route to take imo. I'm not saying that to defend wow in any way. I don't mind people having different opinions about things. What I do mind is people who believe they know something, but sadly don't have a clue. I don't go around implying stuff I really don't know anything about.
One in ten were good? Where did you get that number from?
All online games have "douchebags". It doesn't matter what game it is. I've played alot of MMOs and every single one of them have had their share of idiots. Sometimes they make you angry, sometimes they just annoy you. Point is, don't play with them. If your looking for a game where everyone is nice and happy all the time then your out of luck. It doesn't exist and never will. What exactly do you guys mean with a "good community" anyway?
I'd say my experience running random dungeons have been overall good. On lower levels you may run into elitists that have no patience for mistakes and just want to run through the thing as fast as possible. They have a few level capped characters and know the raids inside and out. I'd say these elitists are the big problem with wow. Hardcore players that is. I'm guessing wow isn't the only game where it is like that though.
I'm sorry but i have to agree with Vyeth as WoW having the worst community to date that i have played imo, ive been playing mmos since ultima Online and Eq and compare to those days the old mmos win hands down, and still to this day i keep in contact with a good dozen of them, to what wow you basically a friend till you leave/kicked/disband the guild.
What i play now is on my ps3 as im waiting for either tera/eq next or some decent asian mmo to come over to europe
The "community" in WoW (if it can be called a community) is the thing that drove me off the game as well. As a game, WoW is one of the best things I've ever played, but the community ruins it. Reading two lines of trade chat made me wanna kill myslef. 10 minutes in the forums makes you lose all your faith in humanity. So I tried playing WoW as a single player game, but sadly it just doesn't work like that... and it shouldn't really. I agree with the 1 in 10 statistic.
Right now I play darkfall off and on. Its not that I hate wow, its that I HATE wow's graphics. Im one of those elitist. I dont pay good money on the best computer parts to play a game that looks like shit. Im really looking forward to rift, tera, and gw2. All three of those games look beautiful. finally an mmo that will look great and hopefully be fun to play.
I don't really hate WoW, but I have mentioned that it wasn't for me a little too often. What can I say? I know it is a good, well-made game... It just also happens to be a game that doesn't resonate with me, and when I tried it again more recently, and I just didn't care for being the new player in an old game where I know nothing and everyone else seems to know everything and expects you to know too. (Verily, 'tis the suck to be in that awkward position.)
Right now, I am playing some PoTBS and I am about to reinstall DDO because my son and his brother-in-law have gotten back into that. Pirates of the Burning Sea reminds me of Voyage Century, which I'd previously played, except that it's really pretty good. (If you're not into nautical combat, I don't know if I'd recommend PoTBS. Or VC, for that matter.)
I've started dabbling in EQ2X and I've installed LoTRO, but I haven't actually logged in yet. Saying that I play either would be overstating the case.
(EDIT: I realize that all the games I mentioned are titles that have gone f2p (or f2p-ish), but that's not the main factor. I play both f2p and p2p games, but right now, I just don't see anything I am prepared to buy into at this point, and the deciding factor for me is that these games are good enough. I probably will buy and pay-to-play one upcoming title (Rift), but for now, I am marking time, and the games I've mentioned are good enough.)
After trying tons of other games, wasting money on collector's editions, waiting for new game releases, playing for a few month and realizing that it's yet another failure in the mmorpg market. My last try was Final Fantasy XIV, what a waste of time and money...
I'd play Darkfall if developers wiped out the servers from cheaters and everybody else who macroed their characters up, and implemented some very tight anti-cheating security.
I'd play Fallen Earth if the combat was bearable. It's absolutely horrible, I have no idea how people can enjoy it's current combat system, unless they are in love with the game world, which I can understand.
What I'd really love to play is Ultima Online back before EA shat on it.
WTB time machine, anybody?
"Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world." Hans Margolius
The "community" in WoW (if it can be called a community) is the thing that drove me off the game as well. As a game, WoW is one of the best things I've ever played, but the community ruins it. Reading two lines of trade chat made me wanna kill myslef. 10 minutes in the forums makes you lose all your faith in humanity. So I tried playing WoW as a single player game, but sadly it just doesn't work like that... and it shouldn't really. I agree with the 1 in 10 statistic.
No offense, but you must be a very sensitive person if you actually feel that bad from reading a chat log in a game. Why do you even care what idiots have to say? Just ignore them. Play with the people you like. I'm not trying to get you to play wow. It's just strange to me that you would take so much offense over a game.
WOW was great for the first year to year and a half then it just went to hell for me. Maybe my tastes changed maybe I out grew it but it became sooo boring. So currently I bounce around to some different F2P and try some trials of others. I played WAR for a few months and CO but just waiting for SW:TOR and try that one out.
The "community" in WoW (if it can be called a community) is the thing that drove me off the game as well. As a game, WoW is one of the best things I've ever played, but the community ruins it. Reading two lines of trade chat made me wanna kill myslef. 10 minutes in the forums makes you lose all your faith in humanity. So I tried playing WoW as a single player game, but sadly it just doesn't work like that... and it shouldn't really. I agree with the 1 in 10 statistic.
No offense, but you must be a very sensitive person if you actually feel that bad from reading a chat log in a game. Why do you even care what idiots have to say? Just ignore them. Play with the people you like. I'm not trying to get you to play wow. It's just strange to me that you would take so much offense over a game.
I'm with Technomonkey, there were a few instances in particular that killed my opinion of WoW's community. I don't think its an issue of being offended, but you start to ask yourself why I'm paying $15 a month to play with....errr...these kind of people. MMO's for me are about much more than game design/graphics, etc. Its more about the community and how you fit into it. I'm currently playing DAoC now, which actually seems to have a slowly growing population, which is encouraging (I'm hoping EA will see DAoC starting to earn real money and decide it is worth a re-work/sequel - but I am a dreamer).
I'm sorry but the community is why I do not like nor play World of Warcraft.. There is more douchebaggery present in that game than your average FPS Clan.. It seems that everyone who plays that game likes to use the "I play WoW and so do 200 million other account holders..(Including the gold sellers and bots), so I am cool and you are not! RageRageRage! I R POPULARZ NOW, YAYY!"
You play WoW.. So what? it "happens" to be the game with the most accounts created, doesn't make you anymore popular and cool for playing it.. LOL.. Some of yall just silly..
BTW, as only to pour salt into the wounds, the games I have been playing are.. GASP, F2P!!!!
Thats right.. You peoples worst enemy.. And I have been enjoying myself like no other.. xD
Your post reeks of prejudice. Have you even been part of the community? I have met many awesome people through playing wow (in game and in real life).
Thats awesome.. However the phrase "Results may vary" comes to mind.. xD
Exactly my point. Your implying that the whole wow community is rotten. I'm pointing out that it in fact isn't.
I hate to stir the pot, but he did say "it seems" which is correct. After they introduced the whole cross realm lfg tool it "seemed" that most groups were just horrible. Sure maybe one in ten were good, but the majority were not. Same can be said for the community. The small amount of good, smart, and mature players are lost in all the horrible, immature, and players that just dont care anymore base of players. IMO its sad to see MMO's go in this fashion. There is some great games out there, but because people still want to play with others, they dont stick around. Vanguard comes to mind. Being one of the best games on the market, but because its so huge and small population (and the fact sony has done nothing with it) makes it not pleasing for new players.
Still, it's a very ignorant statement to make. And spicing it up with sarcasm doesn't make it better. A very narrow minded route to take imo. I'm not saying that to defend wow in any way. I don't mind people having different opinions about things. What I do mind is people who believe they know something, but sadly don't have a clue. I don't go around implying stuff I really don't know anything about.
One in ten were good? Where did you get that number from?
All online games have "douchebags". It doesn't matter what game it is. I've played alot of MMOs and every single one of them have had their share of idiots. Sometimes they make you angry, sometimes they just annoy you. Point is, don't play with them. If your looking for a game where everyone is nice and happy all the time then your out of luck. It doesn't exist and never will. What exactly do you guys mean with a "good community" anyway?
I'd say my experience running random dungeons have been overall good. On lower levels you may run into elitists that have no patience for mistakes and just want to run through the thing as fast as possible. They have a few level capped characters and know the raids inside and out. I'd say these elitists are the big problem with wow. Hardcore players that is. I'm guessing wow isn't the only game where it is like that though.
The problem with this is that Blizz has changed the way groups are created. During Vanilla and even BC you would run instances with people on your server. You would get to know who to hang out with and who not to. I made a lot of cool, fun and smart people during those days and would have my friend's list full of people. With that came invites to guilds to be able to run raids. This has all changed. Its sad to see Blizz take this route and imo they did this just to cater to the console kids who just want to log in and run an instance and 20 min later log off.
Im playing EQ 2 now and once I hit level 15 I wanted to run a dungeon. I had no idea how to do it. It took me about 5 min of talking in the chat channel to find out how and sure enough about 2-3 min later I found a group using the channels. Each person I put on my friends list. This is something that would have happened years ago in wow, but not anymore.
I am back to WOW after some wasted years of "sandbox" experimentations since I (still) prefer this play style. I just "Hated" the quest based style of this game and similar ones. Until some serious Developers make something worthy and different i will stay to WOW since it's simply the best quest based mmorpg around.
Mostly console games. 360 has some great games so I have no problem playing console until the MMO of my dreams arrives. Also I played a little bit of WAR and enjoyed it, but it eventually became nothing but a loot quest so I had to quit that just like WoW.
I am just sick and tired of all the WoW clones. WoW did standardize the genre (hijacked it) so that fact makes some peopel who dislike Quest Driven System bitter it's true. But we're just bored of hearing the same song over and over and over again. We just need some Jazz for a change. Just one song of Jazz as an option for us.
I am playing EQ Classic (Project 1999) and having a blast playing my Shadow Knight Dark Elf! (even though it is not 100% classic but it's close).
I'm waiting for Curt's new MMORPG (Codename Copernicus) and CCP new MMORPG based on World of Darkness IP. Hopefully, they will not be another Quest Driven crap.
I don't hate WoW, I'm just disappointed that it took MMO gaming in a different direction than I'd have liked. MMOs now are very shallow games instead of deep virtual worlds.
But to answer the original question, I'm dividing my time between Eve Online and FFXIV.
I don't hate WoW, I'm just disappointed that it took MMO gaming in a different direction than I'd have liked. MMOs now are very shallow games instead of deep virtual worlds.
But to answer the original question, I'm dividing my time between Eve Online and FFXIV.
I'm with him, lost interest in most MMO bar Eve. MMO nowadays emphasized too much on combat mechanics rather that making a virtual world (and i believe WoW had some influence in this).
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Most people use hate in terms of like or dislike for games. You are putting too much emotion on a word.
I currently waiting for SWTOR to play. I may get Rift if it comes out in the next few months to pass the time if my other friends do.
Your post reeks of prejudice. Have you even been part of the community? I have met many awesome people through playing wow (in game and in real life).
Thats awesome.. However the phrase "Results may vary" comes to mind.. xD
Exactly my point. Your implying that the whole wow community is rotten. I'm pointing out that it in fact isn't.
I hate to stir the pot, but he did say "it seems" which is correct. After they introduced the whole cross realm lfg tool it "seemed" that most groups were just horrible. Sure maybe one in ten were good, but the majority were not. Same can be said for the community. The small amount of good, smart, and mature players are lost in all the horrible, immature, and players that just dont care anymore base of players. IMO its sad to see MMO's go in this fashion. There is some great games out there, but because people still want to play with others, they dont stick around. Vanguard comes to mind. Being one of the best games on the market, but because its so huge and small population (and the fact sony has done nothing with it) makes it not pleasing for new players.
Still, it's a very ignorant statement to make. And spicing it up with sarcasm doesn't make it better. A very narrow minded route to take imo. I'm not saying that to defend wow in any way. I don't mind people having different opinions about things. What I do mind is people who believe they know something, but sadly don't have a clue. I don't go around implying stuff I really don't know anything about.
One in ten were good? Where did you get that number from?
All online games have "douchebags". It doesn't matter what game it is. I've played alot of MMOs and every single one of them have had their share of idiots. Sometimes they make you angry, sometimes they just annoy you. Point is, don't play with them. If your looking for a game where everyone is nice and happy all the time then your out of luck. It doesn't exist and never will. What exactly do you guys mean with a "good community" anyway?
I'd say my experience running random dungeons have been overall good. On lower levels you may run into elitists that have no patience for mistakes and just want to run through the thing as fast as possible. They have a few level capped characters and know the raids inside and out. I'd say these elitists are the big problem with wow. Hardcore players that is. I'm guessing wow isn't the only game where it is like that though.
I'm sorry but i have to agree with Vyeth as WoW having the worst community to date that i have played imo, ive been playing mmos since ultima Online and Eq and compare to those days the old mmos win hands down, and still to this day i keep in contact with a good dozen of them, to what wow you basically a friend till you leave/kicked/disband the guild.
What i play now is on my ps3 as im waiting for either tera/eq next or some decent asian mmo to come over to europe
The "community" in WoW (if it can be called a community) is the thing that drove me off the game as well. As a game, WoW is one of the best things I've ever played, but the community ruins it. Reading two lines of trade chat made me wanna kill myslef. 10 minutes in the forums makes you lose all your faith in humanity. So I tried playing WoW as a single player game, but sadly it just doesn't work like that... and it shouldn't really. I agree with the 1 in 10 statistic.
Right now I play darkfall off and on. Its not that I hate wow, its that I HATE wow's graphics. Im one of those elitist. I dont pay good money on the best computer parts to play a game that looks like shit. Im really looking forward to rift, tera, and gw2. All three of those games look beautiful. finally an mmo that will look great and hopefully be fun to play.
I don't really hate WoW, but I have mentioned that it wasn't for me a little too often. What can I say? I know it is a good, well-made game... It just also happens to be a game that doesn't resonate with me, and when I tried it again more recently, and I just didn't care for being the new player in an old game where I know nothing and everyone else seems to know everything and expects you to know too. (Verily, 'tis the suck to be in that awkward position.)
Right now, I am playing some PoTBS and I am about to reinstall DDO because my son and his brother-in-law have gotten back into that. Pirates of the Burning Sea reminds me of Voyage Century, which I'd previously played, except that it's really pretty good.
(If you're not into nautical combat, I don't know if I'd recommend PoTBS. Or VC, for that matter.)
I've started dabbling in EQ2X and I've installed LoTRO, but I haven't actually logged in yet. Saying that I play either would be overstating the case.
(EDIT: I realize that all the games I mentioned are titles that have gone f2p (or f2p-ish), but that's not the main factor. I play both f2p and p2p games, but right now, I just don't see anything I am prepared to buy into at this point, and the deciding factor for me is that these games are good enough. I probably will buy and pay-to-play one upcoming title (Rift), but for now, I am marking time, and the games I've mentioned are good enough.)
Aion
Looking forward to GW2 though. I don't see a point in going to TERA from Aion, so I'll just wait a little bit more.
I dislike wow and I play wow...
After trying tons of other games, wasting money on collector's editions, waiting for new game releases, playing for a few month and realizing that it's yet another failure in the mmorpg market. My last try was Final Fantasy XIV, what a waste of time and money...
I'd play Darkfall if developers wiped out the servers from cheaters and everybody else who macroed their characters up, and implemented some very tight anti-cheating security.
I'd play Fallen Earth if the combat was bearable. It's absolutely horrible, I have no idea how people can enjoy it's current combat system, unless they are in love with the game world, which I can understand.
What I'd really love to play is Ultima Online back before EA shat on it.
WTB time machine, anybody?
"Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted.
Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."
Hans Margolius
No offense, but you must be a very sensitive person if you actually feel that bad from reading a chat log in a game. Why do you even care what idiots have to say? Just ignore them. Play with the people you like. I'm not trying to get you to play wow. It's just strange to me that you would take so much offense over a game.
WOW was great for the first year to year and a half then it just went to hell for me. Maybe my tastes changed maybe I out grew it but it became sooo boring. So currently I bounce around to some different F2P and try some trials of others. I played WAR for a few months and CO but just waiting for SW:TOR and try that one out.
I'm with Technomonkey, there were a few instances in particular that killed my opinion of WoW's community. I don't think its an issue of being offended, but you start to ask yourself why I'm paying $15 a month to play with....errr...these kind of people. MMO's for me are about much more than game design/graphics, etc. Its more about the community and how you fit into it. I'm currently playing DAoC now, which actually seems to have a slowly growing population, which is encouraging (I'm hoping EA will see DAoC starting to earn real money and decide it is worth a re-work/sequel - but I am a dreamer).
The problem with this is that Blizz has changed the way groups are created. During Vanilla and even BC you would run instances with people on your server. You would get to know who to hang out with and who not to. I made a lot of cool, fun and smart people during those days and would have my friend's list full of people. With that came invites to guilds to be able to run raids. This has all changed. Its sad to see Blizz take this route and imo they did this just to cater to the console kids who just want to log in and run an instance and 20 min later log off.
Im playing EQ 2 now and once I hit level 15 I wanted to run a dungeon. I had no idea how to do it. It took me about 5 min of talking in the chat channel to find out how and sure enough about 2-3 min later I found a group using the channels. Each person I put on my friends list. This is something that would have happened years ago in wow, but not anymore.
I play nothing
is that no the most epic thing uve heard today? I CUT TO FEEL
I am back to WOW after some wasted years of "sandbox" experimentations since I (still) prefer this play style. I just "Hated" the quest based style of this game and similar ones. Until some serious Developers make something worthy and different i will stay to WOW since it's simply the best quest based mmorpg around.
13 million + 1
Don't hate the game, hate the player.
Wow Fanboys to be exact.
Currently playing Vindictus.
Mostly console games. 360 has some great games so I have no problem playing console until the MMO of my dreams arrives. Also I played a little bit of WAR and enjoyed it, but it eventually became nothing but a loot quest so I had to quit that just like WoW.
I don't hate WoW.
I am just sick and tired of all the WoW clones. WoW did standardize the genre (hijacked it) so that fact makes some peopel who dislike Quest Driven System bitter it's true. But we're just bored of hearing the same song over and over and over again. We just need some Jazz for a change. Just one song of Jazz as an option for us.
I am playing EQ Classic (Project 1999) and having a blast playing my Shadow Knight Dark Elf! (even though it is not 100% classic but it's close).
I'm waiting for Curt's new MMORPG (Codename Copernicus) and CCP new MMORPG based on World of Darkness IP. Hopefully, they will not be another Quest Driven crap.
I don't hate WoW, I'm just disappointed that it took MMO gaming in a different direction than I'd have liked. MMOs now are very shallow games instead of deep virtual worlds.
But to answer the original question, I'm dividing my time between Eve Online and FFXIV.
I'm with him, lost interest in most MMO bar Eve. MMO nowadays emphasized too much on combat mechanics rather that making a virtual world (and i believe WoW had some influence in this).
I play WAR and DAOC, dying for GW2 and WAR40k to release already.
I dont hate WoW, or well...I dont hate WoW more than any other game of its kind.
I hate PvE centered games with passion, imo playing online to beat scripted PvE content is the zenith of boredom. pure PvP or bust is my motto.