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I'm just wondering. I recently started playing STO (thanks Amazon!) and it's completely engrossed me. I accept that there are some ham-handed mechanics and the ground missions are a bit restrictive. As for the instanced areas... they're really only partially instanced. Think of them more as PQ areas. Overall an enjoyable, atmospheric experience that I think I'm going to be happy with.
I held off on playing this game, however, because of the constant negative press that it recieved. However, after browsing through sites such as this and Kill Ten Rats, etc, I've found about half of the STO-haters starting their sentences with "I've never played it, BUT..."
That's not credibility, that's not even a formed opinion. It's blind following of the masses.
So, be honest, STO haters. How many of you have actually PLAYED the game recently?
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Its a great casual game I play it as a second MMO to EVE online, EVE sometimes grinds to halt from time to time with things happening like getting camped into a station or getting bored after roaming for 3 hours and ending up in a station examining and spinning every ship in your hanger and STO suits me fine to fill in the gaps and downtimes.
My main complaint would be the clunky feel to ground combat but otherwise STO is fine and I prefer it to every other MMO I have played apart from EVE and that's mainly because of the contrast between the two, EVE can be intense and hard work but STO is just blow up some bad guys and pimp a ship and have some casual easy going fun.
Some of the missions are actually pretty interesting themselves to, just ignore the anoraks who get mad because the bridge on the ship from Voyager has a single extra computer console or the fruit bowl in Quarks bar on DS9 is missing two pieces of fruit and start screaming "Canon" in capital letters.
Currently playing:
EVE online (Ruining low sec one hotdrop at a time)
Gravity Rush,
Dishonoured: The Knife of Dunwall.
(Waiting for) Metro: Last Light,
Company of Heroes II.
I've played it.
Coming up to release I swore I wouldn't touch it with a 10' barge-pole, but I got accepted to Beta and actually found myself enjoying it quite a lot more than I thought I would.
Ended up pre-ordering and playing it for a week. Got bored, quit. Came back. It was far quieter than at launch, didn't stay.
I don't think this game is as bad as everyone says it is. With the space combat and some relatively fun ground-combat it sorta reminded me of games I played 20 years ago as a kid, re-skinned. It's simple, repetitive but can be fun.
I'm not a hater, but I didn't even stay long enough to get my free month's worth of play. STO and FFXIV are the only MMO's I've ever bought and then left before my "free" time was up.
I think there is some fun to be had in this game, just not by me.
I'm not a hater and I've played for roughly 150 hours according to xfire. I beat the game which I feel shouldn't happen in a MMO, but it isn't nearly as bad as everyone says.
Make games you want to play.
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STO isnt as bad as some say it is...it's easily good enough for the 10$ 60 day gtc you can buy
In these forums, you will find that most who post here have indeed played it.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
I also have played it. I think one of your statements says alot.
"I recently started playing STO (thanks Amazon!)" Recently, granted I'm sure some play it after the 1st month and some casual players are still playing it to this day. In beta I got up at 3 am to play STO, I preordered it and within 2 weeks had a char. max leveled, then I hit a wall, there was nothing left to do. You mentioned repitition, yes, STO has that, in great supply. So much so that I couldn't stand to level a second toon.
My anger at STO is like that of many people's and is 3 fold, yes, it falls short of all that the Star Trek universe entails, the zones are small boxes, space feels small and confining. And 50 bucks for 2 weeks is kind of a rip off when it comes to mmos's, 2.50 is more like it, so my bitter resentment is just that.
STO does some things well, I like the BO system, the music was great, liked crusing the galaxy in my own starship, so much so that I tried to convence all of my regular gaming group to switch to STO, However STO will always fall short of being a great mmo as it stands. User generated content will help, but it will still be CO in space. Until the open up space out of the boxes, it can't really be space, and dang, I still have nightmares of the badness that was aid the planet and exploration...
"So, be honest, STO haters. How many of you have actually PLAYED the game recently?"
I wouldn't classify myself as a "hater." I was disappointed, however.
I grew up with Star Trek. The key points I enjoyed about the shows, I simply did not see in game.
I did not see negotiations before a tense moment between ships.
At the time I played, I did not have First Contact missions. Therefore, no need to stick to the Prime Directive.
I guess I expected more drama. And perhaps going "where no one has gone before." Perhaps missions in game geared around my crew, according to their races...that might've been cool.
Star Trek was more Space Opera than say, Star Wars.
Action if fine with me, it just did not feel like Star Trek.
The C-store never bothered me. I never buy from online stores for in game items.
There's just a certain feel that made Star Trek the show that it was.
I'm glad you're enjoying yourself, though. Let me know if the things I've mentioned ever get put into the game. I've not played since release.
It's not about fighting, it's about balance. It's not about enlightenment, it's about balance. It's not about balance.
I PLAYED the game from beta until almost summer (4 months almost), giving Cryptic EVERY chance to fix the game. Trust me...this game gets the crap it does because Cryptic **edit**ed up the release epically!!! This was a game people "wanted" to like. Not only did the game release with NOTHING to do at top level, the changes they did make soon after were just...messed up:
3 months on a worthless crafting update that changed nothing but some minor parts of the UI
A difficulty slider
A death penalty
level restricted instances that gated you from helping friends
PvP changes that penalized YOU for leaving if you were the ONLY one on your side (nobody else ported in) - ensuring your continual gank
Re-working of the purple gear, making all the shit I'd earned obsolete
C-Store updates rather than content
MORE C-Store updates
Player Exchange changes that drove up prices
Promises of upcoming fixes that never happened
Changes to skill trees, but no reset to point distribution
nerfs, nerfs and more nerfs...followed by some other nerfs
Seriously, it was just a shit ton of reasons...I gave this game and Cryptic plenty of chances. It wasn't one thing, it was everything about the game.
I'm glad you like it though! Keep playing, keep enjoying it. Given enough time and enough of your $, maybe Cryptic will turn it around and make me wanna play again!
Lifetime sub here, once a month I think I may have been too harsh on Cryptic and try the game again. I play for a few hours and then realize I still hate it.
I went back to try out season 3 and the latest weekly episode. Guess what, season 3 broke Cold Case and after waiting 2 weeks for them to fix it I uninstalled STO from my drive.
Personally I feel Cryptics model is all wrong. They advertise STO as an AAA title and want to charge an AAA MMO sub fee. If they changed their model and offered the game for free and changed the sub fee to $6 a month and did some marketing showcasing the game as a casual MMO that you could jump into and out of and not have to play it like a second job, they might have a shot.
Let me leave you with two FACTS:
1. There were some people who really liked TR and APB and felt they were awesome games. Just because you like something does not make it great, only great for you.
2. In less than 10 months, STO has gone down to sell for $2.50, even CO sells for more than that. Heck, the WoW trial sells for $2.50 at Gamestop.
As excited as I was when I first heard about STO, I've never played it. I made my decision not to try it based off the info provided by the devs, not players.
When they announced that there would be no open world PvP and that they wouldn't allow multiple players to work together on one ship I pretty much lost interest and kept my money. Forcing everyone to play the Captain Kirk role was just not my idea of fun.
Well, they added little things like being able to walk around in your ship, full 3d trophies from missions, etc.
And I believe that they are working on a method to have multiple players working on the same ship. Not sure though, all I have to go by is unconfirmed comments from fleet leaders.
I've played it. I'll spare you a tirade and give you my top gripes:
It's not Star Trek in any way shape or form.
You mash the spacebar or the F key.
Two mission types: Run around tagging things with the F key or kill 5 enemies in space, beam down and kill people, beam up and kill more enemies in space.
Heavily instanced.
Socialization completely unnecessary.
Terrible "community."
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
lol, the ability to walk around my ship wasn't even amongst my top 1000 issues with the game, nor were full 3d trophies. Seriously, short of giving me the ability to transport irl, there's very little they could do to make up for the amazing failure they released.
Again, enjoy it. It may be your type of game.
Lifetime sub been playing off and on since launch and that still sums up the major flaws in the game.
People if you "just recently" got into STO try playing it at least a couple of months then let everyone know how you feel. A lot of people love it at first, but after doing 100 "kill 5 enemy groups" missions or "scan 5 probes" (all defended by enemies you have to kill), getting one-shotted in the clunky ground combat, etc, it gets old fast. It was a rushed game and really feels like it.
glad you are enjoying the game. and yes i have played the game, uninstalled and now know better than to ever buy another cryptic or atari product.
please come back in 2 months and tell us again what you think of sto.
imo, having played many mmo's now (i think around 20) sto is by a very wide margin the worst i have tried. i dont hate sto (its a game, i did not like it so i do not play it anymore), allthough i will admit to greatly disliking some of the offensive comments made by cryptic's employee's. (for example- people who dont like the game "just dont get it")
there is a massive laundry list of things that are wrong with the game (just look at some old posts here, or go to the official sto forums), many of which there is no longer any point in fixing due to the horrible reputation that cryptic has now. many people just are not going to give this game another shot after how badly cryptic has treated the ip and its customers.
or to quote jack emmeret (cryptic big cheese)
"But the reviews - and these boards - differed. Instead, they said the game was unpolished.
As I said in one of my interviews (I've forgotten which one), I'm not going to be self serving and say "well, the reviewers are wrong" or "the players don't know what they're talking about". That's silly at best. We at Cryptic read you loud and clear. We need to up our quality."
or dstahl (another cryptic employee)
"So from where I'm sitting, Cryptic is not throwing STO under the bus, but instead listening to the concerns of the team, and giving us the time and resources we need to begin addressing some of the bigger issues like Ground Combat, Sector Space, Exploration, PVP, and any other big issue that has been clearly called out in reviews."
so, as i said im glad you are enjoying the game. but implying that anyone is blindly following the masses in making criticism's of sto is pretty ridiculous. if you dont beleive me... perhaps you will beleive cryptics managers who have publicly admitted the game does not live up to expectations on many levels. (but of course for 2.50$ why not try it? you can always uninstall it.)
IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME
Your fleet leader is mistaken , Cryptic has no intention of creating a system of having multiple players working on the same ship . Cryptic has stated that their engine will not support that . The game design is such that it's pretty well impossible. Now if they want to place multiple avatars in an instance an give them something to do , that's a differnet story. What you envision is not possible. The ship you see on the screen is your avatar that you created on the log in screen, just with a different skin. To place your avatar into another independant player operated avatar and make it function is not possible.
Yes, I've played and am well aquainted with STO.
Perhaps they are mistaking allowing friends grouped up with you to visit your bridge? As far as i know, that is the only way another player will see the inside of your ship.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
That's a case of going to a predetermined instance , which I'm sure you know , that for all intents and purposes is non-functional or as functional as the devs can program.
Fixed Robsolf, that's what I get for multi tasking. A lot of times I'm typing this stuff on the fly , and re-reading is not an option. So , I appreciate the the help. Sometime coherence suffers, as does typing and spelling.
Not to be the big mean english teacher, but I think the phrase you're going for is "for all intents and purposes". And while saying that, I quite nearly posted the message using "your", instead of "you're"... :P
But yep, you're right. Your bridge is rarely accessed by anyone other than you, and is just a room. Last I played, you couldn't even interact with your crew, let alone the various stations. It's little more than a last minute appeasement for those that raised holy hell about a month before release, when they announced ship interiors wouldn't be available at launch.
Yep, I played it at launch, maxxed at about 3 weeks after launch, and canceled before my free month was up. I've been able to complete the new content they've made during their free weekends ever since.
The game is decent(in space, anyway), if you were to think of it as a single player game with a multi-player co-op mode. It fits this description not just because almost everything is soloable, but moreso because once you hit max level and have run all the story missions, there's very little reason to stick around. There's little incentive to create alts, crafting can't even be called crafting and it certainly can't be called interesting. And finally, the Genesis system doesn't have the flexibility to keep randomly generated scenarios/instances interesting.
Something tells me, OP, that you've been playing the game for days or maybe weeks, casually. Come back about a month after you've finished the story mission content and tell us if you feel the same way.
Bought it, played it and quickly got bored with it.
In particular, I'm amused at how, as "Captain", I'm led around on a leash by my officers.
"Captain, we have to beam down to the station"
"Captain, you need to access these computers."
"Captain, you need to scan these monoliths."
...
I played it, but I'm not a hater. It ran fine, graphics were excellent, writing and voice overs were nice. But basically after the month I paid for was up, it had to compete directly with
Fallen Earth - another nice sci-fi setting with No elves (Vulcans & Romulans). No instances really (the few instances are merely seamless pop-up windows). And third person shooting w head shots.
EVE - a grittier, deeper, more open world.
SWTOR & Earthrise- not out but, why invest my time when they are semi-close?
Ended up playing WAR and FE for now.
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I played it last month to see if it's gotten any better. It still doesn't feel like Star Trek to me and it didn't grab me the way an MMO should. I feel an extreme disconnect from my character and my ship. The game just feels like some fan's bad idea of what Star Trek is, like when you watch fan movies on certain IPs and they just dont' come close to the original.
For being a pew-pew space shooter MMORPG it is ok. But for being the first Star Trek MMORPG it is a huge, gigantic dissapointment. So much that words cannot describe how much it failed to live up to the IP.
The difference between the depth of the IP and this game is so big you can fit a Borg Cube in between.
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