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WoW players suspended because Blizzard dont know how to test rofl
Hashman
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=404757&p=1&tmp=1#post404757
Good going to Blizzard for banning speed hackers etc, stopping fishing macroers etc, erm do Blizzard test their game or is WoW turning into <that other game I dare not mention also made by Blizzard>.
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uhm you do play mmorpgs right ? its nothing new to the mmorpg genre that peeps get banned for using exploits or not allowed 3rd party tools
Yes I do,do you know what testing means?
I would presume, tho, that with a seemless world, it might be hard to make these "zones" completely unaccessible to players, especially if they havent put that much thought into it. It *is* a seemless world, you don "zone" from dif places, meaning that they would have to get rid of these zones completely.
It *is* retarded that some ppl are getting suspended for Blizzard's own fault tho. I mean, come on, every player likes to explore n experiment.
BTW HempHunter, the ppl got suspended, NOT FOR BOTTING OR (advertently) EXPLOITING. They went exploring, found areas, started killing mobs there. These areas, if not ready for the public yet, should *NOT* have been accessible in ANY WAY. This is 100% Blizzard's fault.
thats kind of what Im getting at innocent people this time have been suspended simply for exploring. Ban exploiters yeah, but this isnt good.
My respect for blizzard plummeted rather low when I started playing WoW...
And it just keeps on getting lower, and lower...
I say we get the koreans to deal with them, they'll teach them a lesson!
But seriously...C'mon...This is the biggest half-assed thing I have ever heard spoken by a company. Gimme a break. Suspended because they got in area's that weren't complete...This is retail right...I mean last time I checked we were suppose to have a whole game here...
Oh wait...This is the same company that told us the Honor system would be in place at release...oops.
I'm really dissapointed...Almost sickened. I'm really wondering if Blizzard has really turned into such trash as crap like this has been dictating.
Death is not to fear, for contrary to popular belief, it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
The way I see it, if theres a bug/problem/cheat that can be used it should be fixed straight away, not complied in a large libary for a "when ever" update. You are after all paying money each month for it.
People only exploit the game because the game has exploits! if the game had been tested well enough it would have taken a long time to find cracks in the game but as this shows.... its turning out to be shoddy work.
Dark times are coming!
Dark times are coming!
uhm you guys do read the blue text on this page huh ? where they points out whats inside those zones! sorry those peeps running around inside those zones (and i doubt they just jumped in and thought lets go again and got banned) arent innocent .. i would call it more or less stupid though because when i see some mobs called guardian of blizzard (no idea how they look but maybe they even run around with a big "under contruction" shield) i would leave asap not because im scared i could get banned just because i would be scared to get stuck somewhere in an area that i know it isnt finished from seeing bugged/unfinished mobs, blizzard guardians or completly no monsters in a big area ... everyone that played wow long enough should know that everywhere are plenty of mobs
and about the question if blizzard test their stuff ... what does this has to do with testing o.O if some fools run into your cleary noticeable unfinished area!
Hash,
Go ahead and make a game and then mass market it to the general public. Heck even take 5 years to playtest it. I can guarantee you that after release you will get folks speedhacking,botting and exploiting. You must be extremely new to MMORPG's in general to state what you have. You are very uninformed. It is near impossible to fix every bug, glitch and loophole in the millions of lines of code.
I have a few ideas as to why you posted. It could be just to rile some folks up (AKA being a troll) but in that you have failed miserably. You could be a WoW Hater and want to poke fun at them. But even the most ardent WoW hater would realise the stupidity of a post like yours.Nobody is going to fault any game for banning hackers and exploiters. So that would leave me thinking that you are just a kid trying to find acceptance among the "Big Boys" by impressing them with your wit and insight into the MMORPG gaming industry. You also failed there and are now relegated to the sandbox with the other children.
I want you to take a few minutes to reread your post. You understand do you not, that you are ridiculing a game company for making the game a better place? Or would you rather play a game with hackers and exploiters? Now before you come here with your witty comments or screaming that I'm a WoW fanboi (I don't care for WoW) I want you to think through any reply. It's a known fact that any game that comes out irregardless of the extent of it's playtesting will have bugs and glitches in it that folks will take advantage of. This is true of WoW,EQ2,Tantra,Freeworld etc etc. No matter the game it will never be 100% perfect when released. Everyone knows this. If you persist in staying here and spouting off the laughable rhetoric then you best be getting out of the sandbox and owning up to the forthcoming flames like a 'big boy'
So Blizzard make an area and then say oh sorry dont go there its not done yet?
I accept games have bugs and glitches but just telling your playbase to ignore an unfinished zone otherwise you get suspended.
Im not trying to discuss exploits or making a game 100% perfect, but what Blizzard do when they have a blatant no go area on a LIVE server.
Blizzard did a good job to ban speed hackers etc, but if you don't see how daft this is Sithos then Im afraid it is you who is uninformed.
Damn...Don't you people read the frickin link?
It isn't because its an exploit, speed hack, cheat. It's because the people went into an area blizzard deemed taboo (No exploring guys...can get ya banned!)
Death is not to fear, for contrary to popular belief, it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
seems like you didnt read it ... as they state entering those areas isnt the reason to get banned but staying there is ... would be nice to know how long & often the peeps that got banned explored those areas though (must be long) because they even tell you what to do when you get into one of those areas and dont say we bann you if you step into it
Now your just nit-pickin words.
But either way. It is pathetically, and sadly, absurd. Go into, stay in, it doesn't matter. If they don't want someone enterin it, put a wall in place...with maybe a iron ceiling.
It's just another half-assed thing done by blizzard. Using torrent as a means of patching, (I get about 10K per second because I have to turn off peer sharing because my provider won't allow it) to save bandwidth. Not putting in half of the game for many at release, (The PvP system...With meaning. As in the honor system) still severe bugs such as the game crashing. I mean c'mon, it's like this game was an afterthought. It seems they forgot to hire an artist to give different icons for the inventory as well. You got about 50 icons, and 30 of them were jacked from WC3.
Death is not to fear, for contrary to popular belief, it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
#1 those areas should be blocked out properly so nobody can wander in there.
#2 what are unfinnished zones doing in a retail version?
#3 instead of banning there should be a warning first.
In the 3 point Blizzards fails, they are lucky that I've pre-ordered the game and will play it when getting released in Europe. Only hope then they block of those unfinished zones properly and don't put on live server. And what the heck are there doing mobs, even altered ones, in those areas if they are unfinished? For internal testing they should have there testing server, not the retails ones.
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How many mmorpgs have you played from launch that had EVERYTHIGN they promised in release? please tell me that.....
and you say this is one of the more half assed game you have heard of.....what about horizons? huh? SWG was worse then wow......I mean seriosuly man...you need to tyhing about other games that are bad...wow is good...
the whole thing about people getting suspended about the exploring....thats stupid....blizz should have some barrier there or have given the people a warning or something.....
but this game is not half assed and theres not many if any game that had everythign promised at launch unless they only promised nothign or like 2 things.....
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Exactly. Until now, players were given no notice that these zones were off limits. N now theyre making it seem like he was 20 levels below the mobs, n the mobs only had 100 HP. Thats not the case. They were elite mobs, but had the same HP as regular mobs of that level would have. Now, thats not as horribly obvious as killing a mob 20 levels higher than you in 2 hits.
Now, the game has gone gold. If certain zones are finished, make them accessible. If certain zones arent finished, make them INACCESSIBLE. Is that so hard to figure out? Not "inaccessible by the majority", ABSOLUTELY 100% INACCESSIBLE! Not "banned if you access", *****100% INACCESSIBLE****
People are paying to play now. Theyre paying to explore, to adventure, to lvl, to craft. Theyre not paying to be scared of getting banned if they wander.
Hmm, havent played WoW but I've never ran across a situation like this in any i've played. If an area is under construction then you cant get to it... there is a wall and you cant cross its that simple. If blizzard didnt do this then its there fault and they arent accepting responsibility and passing the buck. If however, these people are using 3rd party programs to access these areas then Ban them. No warning, No suspension, ban thier account from the game and try to make sure that the person never enters your game again.
I have no tolerance for cheaters in online gaming. They have ruined or seriously hurt too many games.
it seems like everyone think those peeps ran around and suddenly got banned ... thats by far not the fact if you read the complete wow forums though ... atleast one of them ran in ghost form trough a wall thats only passable in ghost form and revived his char behind the guardian of blizzard and then killes elite mobs (who give way more exp then standard mobs) that were unfinished/had same hp then normal mobs ... and for all that he get banned for 72 hours only ... imo someone like him should get perma banned lifetime because THATS really a explot and not just exploring the game
They should ban anyone who doesn't realize they shouldn't be in certain zones muahaha.
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To get to many of these areas you need to be in ghost form.
There are certain places in WoW that you have to go trhough in ghost form. For example, in one of the instances you need to go through a wall to get back to your corpse. And that is intended to be that way.
Also, Caydiem and Tyren on the official forums have said many times there are things you can only do while dead. They said there are a few quests, and that the Undercity is packed with things you can only see while dead, along with other places around the world.
So.. how are people who didn't read that post on the forums supposed to know they are exploiting? Maybe they thought it was one of the things you can only do while you're dead, and are just honest players thinking they found a good leveling spot. As far as I know these players didn't recieve any kind of a warning to leave, and were just banned right away, which is wrong in a situation like this.
Why are these places even accessible at all if Blizzard doesn't want you near them?
You can tell this is Blizzard's first MMORPG.
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reasons why people are idiots
1. Unfinished areas? it should be complete at launch?
omg have you ever heard of... omg this may sound surprising... but.... but.... new content? ever hear of that? i know any game released at launch eventually gets new areas/features... would be horrible without that. But fine live in your game that never gets any new areas.
2. Banned for going in? shouldnt it be blocked?
Well it IS blocked what they are talking about is someone who goes over mountains etc to get into the area in a way they thought didnt exist(they are only human, look at that ghost issue mentioned earlier). The monsters there are also being tested thus their low hp or high exp. Like i said before, im sorry they are trying to add new content.
3. omgwtfbbq they didnt put in all the features the promised at launch!!!
Once again the developers are not the one that decided to release it then, the marketing people and other higher ups said we ARE releasing it then. If you don't have that done, patch it later. People will buy it either way.
Stop making excuses for blizzard. It is easy to make and then test an area on a *Test* server or even just in their office. To put an area, obviously accesable, and then get pissed when people find it is just complete bull. It is perfectley reasonable to kill anything you find in the game whether or not it has a weird name. I don't play WoW so I can't say anything about the general quality of it, but this sounds like bull whether you be a fanboi or not.
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yuuzahn you should play wow before posting something in a wow related thread ;P other games got many zones so you can just block the zoneing point and the area is save ... wow has only 2 really big areas so you can run almost hours without having to zone that makes it kinda hard to block something so it isnt accesable ... and i think guardians that do 1000 dmg (thats MUCH in wow) are way enough if someone gets behind them he usualy know why they are there and what they do otherwise he would have attacked them once and never came back
and the excuse that there are places where you have to be in ghost form to reach them isnt that great because a big seal + the wall he ran trough + the guards he passed is to much imo otherwise everyone could say his exploit was a mistake as example: hey i didnt knew i wasnt allowed to use fishing macros because there is a fishing pole and water and fishes so why im not allowed to use my macro!!!
oh and about the "you can tell its blizzards first mmorpg" so true thats why they have way less bugs & problems then companys with 5+ years mmorpg experience
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