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Who else is sick of CGI trailors?
BarryManilow
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See a really nice trailor and you get really excited about the game. I know its a teaser and eye candy, but still I would like to see actual game play style trailors instead. So we can make more informed decisions in our purchases.
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CGI trailers are for marketing and normally always have a great effect, plus there is normally always game play trailers especially as a game nears launch.
Personally I love them, especially when they include story line tidbits from a game I am already planning on playing.
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Three opinions:
1. A well done trailer adds a mindset to a game. It's like the brain knows to associate the two and in a way it can make the game feel richer due to the association. Yeah, I play a bad-axe Warlock and I watched him fry the others in the trailor.
2. Too many times the advertising for a game has nothing what so ever to do with the game itself. Logos, display ads, cgi trailors done very well make a sharp contrast for a weak game.
3. As a low-budget Indie dev... It sort of cheeses me to see high budget trailers because I know the masses just drool and flock to it. That's more of a personal annoyance on my part.
I find them to be irritating for games that don't try to match what you're being shown in the game.
Like all of SWTOR's CGI scenematics. Complete misleading garbage.
Some of the worst games have the best CGI trailers. Recent example: FFXIV.
Never base your purchase on CGI trailers, people still seem to buy games based of those when I read youtube comments.
Collector's editions are scams.
I expect to see them as an intro or even along the way as a means of story telling. I'm usually a little disappointed if I there isn't one.
We called them FMV's back in my day but one thing remains universal. Trailors are cool to look at but mean nothing as far as gameplay in concerned.
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I remember watching WAR's CGI trailers with the Slayer v Orc in a very cool-looking battle... the slayer wasn't even IN on release. Personally I strongly dislike CGI trailers that do not use IN-GAME FOOTAGE to demonstrate gameplay. I do like GW2 approach of story-boards as if being told a story from memory with only a few faded images to suggest to the listener's mind's eye. That's promoting the story and atmosphere and not some marketing hogwash of shiny-graphics intended to mislead on what actually happens in game ie shiny packaging.
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Mass effect demonstrated you can have a great trailer with in game graphics without lying to the customer and trying to tell them your game is something its not.
In game cinimatic trailers should be the norm, cgi needs to be abolished in the game industry, save it for hollywood.
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Really?
Please elaborate.
Normally I have no problem with CGI trailers due to the fact that once you're seeing these, you've almost always got somewhere to find gameplay footage. Sure in game story-line cinematics would be great if they became the norm, but honestly there's games I've picked up only because the CGI drew me in, and I probably never would have looked twice at them from the gameplay videos, or just not searching them out period. It's a marketing scheme, we all know that, but man it sure does peak our curiousity and bring out our imagination of what we really might want from the game.
The worst for me was MO for sure. The intial "in game footage" trailers that they had followed later by the "town life" trailer with walking guards. It was in game but all scripted movements etc. . not working AI. So many people defended it at the time and said it was coming "soon" and that they were almost done with it.
The problem wasn't the trailers. . just that they did use in game animations etc so people truly believed that is what the game would look like. . and the devs suggested it would. . some day.
Note: This is not an MO thread.
Edit: These are not CGI of course. I should state that CGI doesn't bother me. It is "in game" footage. OR when the engine is used to create the trailers.
Here is the Town Life one for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUsGaSbg1VI
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I love CGI trailers and they get better each year. I also understand that they rarely tell anything about the game itself. But that doesn't bother me one bit because I'm a realist and I understand a game cannot reach that level of action, graphics and feel.
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I've never been gullible enough to believe that what I see in the CGI trailer is what I will be playing.
As far as I'm concerned it's a piece of light entertainment, such as DCUniverse Online and SWTORs, and I do enjoy watching a good trailer.
Trailers are okay so long as you keep in mind that they have nothing to do with the gameplay. Seems gamers are easy to hype regardless. As has been said in this thread, actual gameplay video is far more meaningful. Games with mostly or only CGI trailers I find highly suspicious.
Maybe it's because I grew up in the days of the Odyssey2 and the 2600, but I've always been used to the print and video advertising of games as more of a way to give you a feel for the theme,mood and context of the game than any actual indication of gameplay.
The Deceived Star Wars TOR video was a classic example of that. It hit a ton of targets dead on with what it represented. The player who's usually got that redheaded archer chick saw the solo Boba Fett-like character leaping around and shooting crap. The players into epic team battles saw a massive battle between two forces. The anime and action movie guys saw all their favorite moves - the earth-tearing slide backward, the acrobatics, the slow motion ninja-like dodging and the building-shattering transport ship landing. For the Star Wars fanatics, the identifiable characters/races, the detailed close-up of a light saber and a ton of awesome brand imagery was served up. The trailer got both SW fans and MMO fans excited about the MMO.
Some games developers will use the game engine to make their trailers,like EVE Online and Mass Effect 2, but the trailers themeselves are still designed to convey the theme, mood and context of the gameplay rather than the actual gameplay itself.
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Definitely sick of them. They don't get me excited at all anymore... especially for MMOs. I'm also tired of the doctored gameplay footage with exagerated fight scenes. It's cool and all, but save that for the weeks before release or something.
I will bite...
Example: I showed my friend the CGI trailers from SWTOR as we are both Star Wars fan.. And he hadent seen them at the time. He said OMG they are cool.. Then for fun I said do you want to see the actual gameplay? he said hell yes, and I showed him some of the ingame fotage and he just stared at me and said; Are they serious?????
CGI trailers should be made with the ingame engine, like CCP dose with thier EVE trailers...
Then your friend is an idiot for thinking that any mmo game would actually look like a cgi trailer. I'm pretty sick of the TOR has crappy graphics people.
That top right shot always makes me laugh, looks like he has a bent lightsaber
I usually completely ignore trailers and hunt for in game player made videos.
I would rather see gametrailers with game play. CGI trailors are worthless. If I want to watch a movie I'll sit on the couch infront of my bigscreen and fire up Netflix, HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, Starz, or Encore.
Please elaborate.
I will bite...
Example: I showed my friend the CGI trailers from SWTOR as we are both Star Wars fan.. And he hadent seen them at the time. He said OMG they are cool.. Then for fun I said do you want to see the actual gameplay? he said hell yes, and I showed him some of the ingame fotage and he just stared at me and said; Are they serious?????
CGI trailers should be made with the ingame engine, like CCP dose with thier EVE trailers...
Then your friend is an idiot for thinking that any mmo game would actually look like a cgi trailer. I'm pretty sick of the TOR has crappy graphics people.
Im going to assume the opposite here and guess he's talking about the combat and the gameplay itself..you know...how it looks boring and lifeless and all...not the terrible graphics.
and yea...totally over them, unless your game actuality looks like that and the avatars can move and do combat like in the trailers....then I don't care about them in the slightest as they have no real representation of the game at all.
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trailers are marketing tools and just a bit of fun. NOONE expects games to look like CGI trailers, nor should you expect it. If you do that's noones fault but your own
Love them, especially the recent batch from DCUO. They're like mini- movies, and I'd not have been able to see those heroes animated that way, otherwise. I know enough not to buy based on CGI trailers.