No lore? Just because you don't read the lore does not make it have no lore. Looks like you have some reading to do.
I said "practically no lore". Looks like you need a few classes on reading comprehension.
That page has a lot of lore. A far cry from practically no lore. Exaggerate some more.
You call that a lot? Most of the RP clans, had to make their own lore entirely from scratch because AV's "lore" is directly in conflict with how the game is played. So much for Racial Alliance.... You can slap a definition of something on a game website, but how the hell are you going to use it when the game promotes an entirely different behavior, and not following such behavior is putting yourself at a major disadvantage in all fields.
No lore? Just because you don't read the lore does not make it have no lore. Looks like you have some reading to do.
I said "practically no lore". Looks like you need a few classes on reading comprehension.
That page has a lot of lore. A far cry from practically no lore. Exaggerate some more.
You call that a lot? Most of the RP clans, had to make their own lore entirely from scratch because AV's "lore" is directly in conflict with how the game is played. So much for Racial Alliance.... You can slap a definition of something on a game website, but how the hell are you going to use it when the game promotes an entirely different behavior, and not following such behavior is putting yourself at a major disadvantage in all fields.
Darkfall is the best MMORPG in existence but unfortunately still in paid beta. They have improved the game twenty fold since I started playing (for casual players and legitimate players . ... but not macroers, they will keep complaining because most are impatient scrubs).
They are making so many changes soon for the better . .. I can feeeel it!! : )
@ OP
If you played Darkfall for as long as me with my mindset than you would not be able to log into other MMOs . .. even if Darkfall's grind was worse. Too many things that it has to offer which most games simply lack. One character per account and you will never have to be forced to reroll. Compared to other FFA PVP (like EQs FFA PVP) the grind is minimal . .. but since there is full-loot the grind honestly does not end because you will always have to replace what is lost. The trick is finding fun in replacing those goods, which they are improving every few months.
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Add some kind of a skill cap and I bet people will finally try Darkfall out again. There should be more to an MMO than just leveling your character for eternity- that is a cheap "get them addicted" element that Darkfall doesn't need. Darkfall cheapens itself by making it such a grind.
100 is as far as you can go in anything. You cant go over 100. You cant cast two spells at the same time from two lines. You cant wield an axe and sword at the same time. Having 100 in multiple skills does not make you better, only skills make you better.
Once you have a weapon mastery and 50 in any elemental magic you have "caught up" to most everyone else. That only takes a couple of weeks.
Now if you suck at FPS, having 100 in everything wont help you.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Add some kind of a skill cap and I bet people will finally try Darkfall out again. There should be more to an MMO than just leveling your character for eternity- that is a cheap "get them addicted" element that Darkfall doesn't need. Darkfall cheapens itself by making it such a grind.
100 is as far as you can go in anything. You cant go over 100. You cant cast two spells at the same time from two lines. You cant wield an axe and sword at the same time. Having 100 in multiple skills does not make you better, only skills make you better.
Once you have a weapon mastery and 50 in any elemental magic you have "caught up" to most everyone else. That only takes a couple of weeks.
Now if you suck at FPS, having 100 in everything wont help you.
The diminishing returns is insane too so catching up is easier than most people claim. Most of the grind is in 75-100 and 80-110.
NEWS FLASH!"A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore gamer and knew just what to do!" Download my music for free! I release several albums per month as part of project "Thee Untitled" . .. some video game music remixes and cover songs done with instruments in there as well! http://theeuntitled.bandcamp.com/Check out my roleplaying blog, collection of fictional short stories, and fantasy series... updated on a blog for now until I am finished!https://childrenfromtheheavensbelow.blogspot.com/Watch me game on occasion or make music... https://www.twitch.tv/spoontheeuntitled and subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvqULn678VrF3OasgnbsyA
Sid and to the others responding to the 'i'll never catch up" complaint.....stop wasting your time. These are the same people posting the same nonsense about never catching the vets in EvE. They either haven't played and are professional regurgitators or have played and are just butthurt. Grinding in DF used to be way, way worse than it is now. If you could get a toon 100/50 or whatever when i played...it tooks months and months. Macro'ing/bloodwalls all that nonsense makes the game worse.
As far as the lore is concerned...RP'ing in DF was never it's strong suit. I was in a clan that only allowed orks/mahraim and a few alfar for a long time...guess what happened? We kept getting our asses handed to us by ARAC so that stopped. There just wasn't enough ork/wolf players to begin with.
People will never be happy with DF, EvE whatever b/c there are consequences. Or these people want a solo experience. What they fail to realize is, they are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole...it doesn't fit. You can be the best macro'd up/uber/leet whatever player in DF, in a one man clan, and get your ass handed to you, repeatedly.
Same goes for EvE. It's posts like these that make reading the forums tiresome. I'm not saying they don't have a right to express their opinions, but it's the same 10-15 topics over and over again. Find a new complaint.
Fact: they aren't implementing a skillcap (which sucks, but it is what it is)
Fact: if you have 100/50 in a skill and i have the same, but you suck at FPS's, you will lose.
Fact: if you choose to log in to the server, you are consenting to PvP.
Has school started back? Get these same ole complaints off and let's hear some new ones, ffs.
Playing: BF4/BF:Hardline, Subnautica 7 days to die Hiatus: EvE Waiting on: World of Darkness(sigh) Interested in: better games in general
100 is as far as you can go in anything. You cant go over 100. You cant cast two spells at the same time from two lines. You cant wield an axe and sword at the same time. Having 100 in multiple skills does not make you better, only skills make you better.
Once you have a weapon mastery and 50 in any elemental magic you have "caught up" to most everyone else. That only takes a couple of weeks.
Now if you suck at FPS, having 100 in everything wont help you.
The diminishing returns is insane too so catching up is easier than most people claim. Most of the grind is in 75-100 and 80-110.
wait, what? I thought 100 was the max...
100 goes for any skill , spell and 110 for stats.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
The whole 'grind must catch up' argument is a myth.
What you need to do is play smart - and skilled players with 1 month old characters can (and do) kick ass by playing smarter than the other guy/gal.
It's a FFA PvP game. No-one cares if your new toon didn't have 450 health and capped magic schools - everyone cares about who is lying on the deck about to lose all thier stuff after a fight. If you want to be a superb pvper, stop fussing about numbers and get in-game and work out a strategy that suits you. Join a good clan, and you too can be butchering people faster than most players believe is possible. And a good hint - don't miss ;p
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You call that a lot? Most of the RP clans, had to make their own lore entirely from scratch because AV's "lore" is directly in conflict with how the game is played. So much for Racial Alliance.... You can slap a definition of something on a game website, but how the hell are you going to use it when the game promotes an entirely different behavior, and not following such behavior is putting yourself at a major disadvantage in all fields.
Darkfall is the best MMORPG in existence but unfortunately still in paid beta. They have improved the game twenty fold since I started playing (for casual players and legitimate players . ... but not macroers, they will keep complaining because most are impatient scrubs).
They are making so many changes soon for the better . .. I can feeeel it!! : )
@ OP
If you played Darkfall for as long as me with my mindset than you would not be able to log into other MMOs . .. even if Darkfall's grind was worse. Too many things that it has to offer which most games simply lack. One character per account and you will never have to be forced to reroll. Compared to other FFA PVP (like EQs FFA PVP) the grind is minimal . .. but since there is full-loot the grind honestly does not end because you will always have to replace what is lost. The trick is finding fun in replacing those goods, which they are improving every few months.
NEWS FLASH! "A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore gamer and knew just what to do!" Download my music for free! I release several albums per month as part of project "Thee Untitled" . .. some video game music remixes and cover songs done with instruments in there as well! http://theeuntitled.bandcamp.com/ Check out my roleplaying blog, collection of fictional short stories, and fantasy series... updated on a blog for now until I am finished! https://childrenfromtheheavensbelow.blogspot.com/ Watch me game on occasion or make music... https://www.twitch.tv/spoontheeuntitled and subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvqULn678VrF3OasgnbsyA
If they made a new server with a new map and did NOT allow transfers, I'd re-sub.
100 is as far as you can go in anything. You cant go over 100. You cant cast two spells at the same time from two lines. You cant wield an axe and sword at the same time. Having 100 in multiple skills does not make you better, only skills make you better.
Once you have a weapon mastery and 50 in any elemental magic you have "caught up" to most everyone else. That only takes a couple of weeks.
Now if you suck at FPS, having 100 in everything wont help you.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
The diminishing returns is insane too so catching up is easier than most people claim. Most of the grind is in 75-100 and 80-110.
NEWS FLASH! "A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore gamer and knew just what to do!" Download my music for free! I release several albums per month as part of project "Thee Untitled" . .. some video game music remixes and cover songs done with instruments in there as well! http://theeuntitled.bandcamp.com/ Check out my roleplaying blog, collection of fictional short stories, and fantasy series... updated on a blog for now until I am finished! https://childrenfromtheheavensbelow.blogspot.com/ Watch me game on occasion or make music... https://www.twitch.tv/spoontheeuntitled and subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvqULn678VrF3OasgnbsyA
Sid and to the others responding to the 'i'll never catch up" complaint.....stop wasting your time. These are the same people posting the same nonsense about never catching the vets in EvE. They either haven't played and are professional regurgitators or have played and are just butthurt. Grinding in DF used to be way, way worse than it is now. If you could get a toon 100/50 or whatever when i played...it tooks months and months. Macro'ing/bloodwalls all that nonsense makes the game worse.
As far as the lore is concerned...RP'ing in DF was never it's strong suit. I was in a clan that only allowed orks/mahraim and a few alfar for a long time...guess what happened? We kept getting our asses handed to us by ARAC so that stopped. There just wasn't enough ork/wolf players to begin with.
People will never be happy with DF, EvE whatever b/c there are consequences. Or these people want a solo experience. What they fail to realize is, they are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole...it doesn't fit. You can be the best macro'd up/uber/leet whatever player in DF, in a one man clan, and get your ass handed to you, repeatedly.
Same goes for EvE. It's posts like these that make reading the forums tiresome. I'm not saying they don't have a right to express their opinions, but it's the same 10-15 topics over and over again. Find a new complaint.
Fact: they aren't implementing a skillcap (which sucks, but it is what it is)
Fact: if you have 100/50 in a skill and i have the same, but you suck at FPS's, you will lose.
Fact: if you choose to log in to the server, you are consenting to PvP.
Has school started back? Get these same ole complaints off and let's hear some new ones, ffs.
Playing: BF4/BF:Hardline, Subnautica 7 days to die
Hiatus: EvE
Waiting on: World of Darkness(sigh)
Interested in: better games in general
100 goes for any skill , spell and 110 for stats.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
The whole 'grind must catch up' argument is a myth.
What you need to do is play smart - and skilled players with 1 month old characters can (and do) kick ass by playing smarter than the other guy/gal.
It's a FFA PvP game. No-one cares if your new toon didn't have 450 health and capped magic schools - everyone cares about who is lying on the deck about to lose all thier stuff after a fight. If you want to be a superb pvper, stop fussing about numbers and get in-game and work out a strategy that suits you. Join a good clan, and you too can be butchering people faster than most players believe is possible. And a good hint - don't miss ;p
This made me smile
lol. come at me with your 1 month old character and i will flawless you.
Not a 1v1 duel deathmatch instance either. I will help and we will flawless you.
Thing is ... he's right
Although if you want to go for mass battle pvp get to 90 water magic too 