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Beta Impressions
unimpressed. Id write a full review if I though it was worth it, but instead Ill give a brief summary.
Graphics - good, but character animations are clunky much like vanguard
world - not bad, but very bland much like LoTRO and Warhammer mixed into one
Gameplay - simple and non-intuitive much like Warhammer
Story - dont know....Im not much for lore or anything like that...just like a fun game, but as far as what I could see the story seemed to be similar to Warhammer.
Class system - the one thing that really stands out and is what every online mmo should strive to create. I love the class system/soul system.
Replayable - I highly doubt it.
Worth subbing - if you like mediocre mmos like vanguard, EQ2, LoTRO and Warhammer go for it. It just another game added to that bunch. What strikes me as odd is that it almost feels as though the developers aimed to make this game much like those...as if it was intended to be that way....I scratch my head everytime I think about it.
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Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
I'm sorry but that comment discredits your whole post. LOTRO has one of the best designed worlds in any mmo.
Tonight, on, 'when 12 year olds write mmorpg reviews'....
I'm not a fan of Rift OP but seriously, those 'impressions' weren't even worth posting. And saying WAR/LOTRO had bland worlds just completely discredits your entire post, no-one can argue against LOTRO/WAR having very lively/interesting worlds.
hahahahahaha...Lord of the Rings has a critically acclaimed world? Are you kidding me? I guess it must be my taste, but I felt that the monsters and the world in Lord of the Rings online were very repetitive, which made them boring. Does that mean the level of detail wasn't one of the best an mmo has seen...no, but I can show the best level of detail of two old people playing BINGO, doesnt mean it's exciting....I think the biggest problem with LoTRO is that it had to follow the Lore granted it from a book, thus the game was very restricted to what it could do.
As far as what game Im playing, I understand that WoW is frowned upon when talked about, but the worlds in World of Warcraft cannot be touched by any game....maybe AoC, but that's a big stretch. Each area is extremely diverse and Cataclysm followed the same formula. You enter an area in WoW and it makes other games look like no named brand games.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
There were definately areas in LoTRO that were awesome...The Barrows, Old Forrest was ok, but most of the areas were just valleys, hills, mountains with alot of the same mobs everywhere. I dont think I ever turned a corner in LoTRO and said, "WOW, what the f@!* is that"...As far as open world, sure, it's WIDE open and is huge, but I didnt find enough diversity in the landscape or the habitat to ever appreciate it enough....btw, anything after level 40 I have not seen, just so ya know. never got past that mark.
As for WAR, sitting here thing about it, the world in WAR was pretty awesome, my biggest problem were the mobs. If you stayed in the chosen area, you would be fighting the same mobs to end-game the entire time (they'd have different names and maybe different color costumes). Same with every other race. There wasn't enough mob variety and think that that goes back to the lore and how those that made WAR had to follow strict lore. Anytime lore is even slightly restrictive it just isnt worth converting to an MMO because, IMHO, you need complete freedom to create anything in order to have a great MMO. That's why WoW is so succesful, although it has lore, its very loose lore and they typically do things that were never apart of the lore.
Places do get more diverse after 40. Evil places like Angmar, snowy places like the misty mountains, dungeony places like moria. I like the green hills and forests though so the early areas are perfect for me
What I don't like about rift is the little npc camps everywhere. I don't feel attached to places because I move to a new little camp with npcs every couple levels.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
I agree with everything except the lotro comments. LOTRO no matter how boring it gets has a beautiful world,one of the best a dev team has done IMO.
Yeah, I got quite a laugh out of that comment.
Overall though, he does bring up some good points. Besides that one snippet he must have written after one hellacious toke.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Why not state what you mean then because many would think you are actually talking about how the world looks. As for Vanguard being a mediocre MMO,it has more depth than WOW has ever had.
World smacks WOW
Graphic smack WOW
Crafting smacks WOW
Mounts smack WOW
Deeper Quest than WOW
Harder content than WOW
The list goes on
WOW is a very good bug-less MMO with the smoothest controls to date,it's easy mode and user friendly ill admit that.
I agree. Although everyone has preferences it is still hard to take seriously him stating that LOTRO's game world is bland. Although maybe he likes a more fantastical world like Aion or WoW.
Yeah i agree with the other points about rift 100%.
I though i would give it another crack at the whip this weekend and played solid up to an hour ago. Got to 27 and done all quests in guardian side and done both faction instances DD-DM at least 10 times each.
I kitted my rogue out in all blues and done some warfronts but this game really is a FTP game and should not be asking for a sub.
As soon as SWTOR/GW2 lands these people who are shouting about rift will leave making some excuse on the swtor/guildwars 2 guru forums.
They will forget the wide eyed comments on these forums and make out they left because there toon got nerfed not because they really only just saw what others have seen from the start lol.
The game is ROM type league..Rune Of Magic..
You cant be serious...lol Sure LOTRO created a decent world but the horrid character models and bland quest grinding cancels it out. What goods a beautifull world in a boring quest driven WoW-clone MMO? ;p
"I play Tera for the gameplay"
What the heck? He is talking about the WORLD, not the goddamn game itself. And you even agreed with him...
Le sigh.
Explore it all you want but all you'll find is quests, quests, and more quests and...mobs, mobs, and more mobs. LOTROs world has no sense on danger which is the main reason I left when I did. It just...got...so...gd boring lol.
The world Turbine created was pretty decent but the game itself (IMO) is about as boring as you can get. I love pvp so LOTRO will never be an opition for me again. And please don't bring up the Ettenmoors dude...lol. The fact is LOTRO is about the most care-bear MMO out there and the world has 0 sense of danger to it other then high level mobs you cant touch. Any player who enjoys emmersive PvP should avoid it.
"I play Tera for the gameplay"
Ya I agree with him but whats the point of a beutifull world in a game like LOTRO? It was a waste of an IP imo. I've loved Tolkien since I was kid and Turbine crashed my dream of an unique and emmersive (pvp driven) Middle Earth. Sadly we'll never see the Middle Earth IP used again in our life-time....but wait the world is great looking!! /sigh
oooo Middle Earth was so well done...but the games an boring as a MMO gets lol. What a waste...
"I play Tera for the gameplay"
I think you are right....I am a bit biased toward those types of worlds...but it's because I see enough of RL everyday to want to play a game that is similar in graphics and landscape.
Beta impressions well I've played around 8 hours per day this weekend . Initially I did'nt like Rift and I thought oh no this is like Warhammer then I thought oh no this is like Warcraft and so on but I found myself keeping playing because it was familar then suddenly it all came together and I realised this was something pretty good if not original . The rifts actually make playing the same area never the same experiance twice . i thought the equivelent of the scenarios or battlegrounds could do with a little more work but I only played the black garden . The three class system really is rather good and has huge scope for customisation . The graphics do require at least a mid range machine to run well on medium settings but with a little tweaking I got it running pretty smoothly . All in all with a limited experiance of the game I would say its got a lot of potential but who knows that the rest of the game is like . I will say one thing though this is the best game I've seen since WoW thats not to say it will be better than it or more popular but in terms of quality it is very playable and it does'nt appear to be totally spoodfed and you have to think when your doing a quest . So it wont appeal to some people (nuff said) . If you want something thats going to allow you to get to max level in days this proberbly isn't for you . If you like a bit of challenge while leveling it proberbly is .
Most important I keep wanting to go back . Its fun and look forward to seeing what it can really do in the endgame .I don't really give two hoots whether its bigger than WoW as long as it becomes a functional successful game enough to populate a few servers well . Thats all I cared about 6 years ago when I first played WoW and it still is now .