Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.
Yeah it is funny that a game full of ghost town servers becomes number 5. If only .01% of wows subs voted on this wow would destroy the poll due to shear numbers!
Argure the % all you want, the other games on the list had equal chance to be voted for, yet they're below SWG. SWG might have 4% of the votes but it's still 5th place, ahead of the majority of MMO's that have been release since SWG launched and went through the CU and NGE. That's pretty good for a game that people here like to say no one likes, no one plays and is dying. Apparaently, they're wrong
Oh for gods sake.
Its not pretty good. If you dont understand statistics, dont post. Here's an example;
If out of 100 people, 18 of them liked apples, 15 of them liked lemons, 13 liked bananas and 10 of them liked pineapples you couldn'y say for definite that they didn't also like the other fruit as well, especially if they hadn't eaten them before. There might also be some Fruitarians amongst them, or some people from a special religious denomination who grew up believing that to eat Lemons helps them to be closer to God etc.
Statistics are skewed, always. Not sometimes... always. Did every single person who plays MMO's vote?? No. Had those same people played all available games to be able to make their choice?? Nope.
Now also take into account that EvE online has around 330,000 active subscribers. (http://www.eveonline.com/pressreleases/default.asp?pressReleaseID=63) and WoW has around 12 million and SWG has 170,000. Yet EvE still got the vast majority of votes. Surely WoW should have had 33 times as many votes? But they didnt, why...?
Can we rule out that WoW's subscribers were so busy playing they didnt have time to vote? Are EvE's subscribers so hardcore that they will vote no matter what? Were SWG's subscribers 'gold sellers' who want more people to join the game?? (yes I know its not gold)
We'll never know. Statistics mean nothing. The fact that you took it so seriously points very clearly to the fact that you were unable to look at it objectively.
Is it still a case of, "Yeh but, like people must luv SWG or they wouldnt vote, so it must still be a gud game rite??? So everyone who quite must be wrong and must have missed what those 4% can see, am I right???? RIGHT???.....guys....?"
And look at all the games that lost to SWG by twice or more the % of SWG Games that had been predicted to be the "death" of SWG and to be the final nail in the coffin. Not only has that not happen, people apparently prefer SWG over them.
Argure the % all you want, the other games on the list had equal chance to be voted for, yet they're below SWG. SWG might have 4% of the votes but it's still 5th place, ahead of the majority of MMO's that have been release since SWG launched and went through the CU and NGE. That's pretty good for a game that people here like to say no one likes, no one plays and is dying. Apparaently, they're wrong
Oh for gods sake.
Its not pretty good. If you dont understand statistics, dont post. Here's an example;
If out of 100 people, 18 of them liked apples, 15 of them liked lemons, 13 liked bananas and 10 of them liked pineapples you couldn'y say for definite that they didn't also like the other fruit as well, especially if they hadn't eaten them before. There might also be some Fruitarians amongst them, or some people from a special religious denomination who grew up believing that to eat Lemons helps them to be closer to God etc.
Statistics are skewed, always. Not sometimes... always. Did every single person who plays MMO's vote?? No. Had those same people played all available games to be able to make their choice?? Nope.
Now also take into account that EvE online has around 330,000 active subscribers. (http://www.eveonline.com/pressreleases/default.asp?pressReleaseID=63) and WoW has around 12 million and SWG has 170,000. Yet EvE still got the vast majority of votes. Surely WoW should have had 33 times as many votes? But they didnt, why...?
Can we rule out that WoW's subscribers were so busy playing they didnt have time to vote? Are EvE's subscribers so hardcore that they will vote no matter what? Were SWG's subscribers 'gold sellers' who want more people to join the game?? (yes I know its not gold)
We'll never know. Statistics mean nothing. The fact that you took it so seriously points very clearly to the fact that you were unable to look at it objectively.
Is it still a case of, "Yeh but, like people must luv SWG or they wouldnt vote, so it must still be a gud game rite??? So everyone who quite must be wrong and must have missed what those 4% can see, am I right???? RIGHT???.....guys....?"
No its not.
Take a moment, use your brain... think....
No, it doesn't mean they didn't like the other games in the list, but it does mean that they liked SWG better than those other games listed. The poll isn't a poll of everyone within every MMO community but rather a poll of members at MMORPG.com, which as seen in the poll, don't appear to like WoW as much as they do other games.
Then perhaps theyr'e doing something right? EVE for example has the one server with lots of people in it. Maybe thats the way to go when you don't have a ginormous player base.
Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.
No need to apologise, Crucial. Your post was a lot more accurate than many native English speakers in this thread.
Lol. Really Matt? If that poll had went the other way and given the SWG haters the ammunition they needed to slam it any more, you and Badger would have been on here swearing up and down that the poll is invalid and isn't a true representation of SWG. So please. Don't try to gas this poll up to be more than what it is just because, for once, it actually went in your favor.
Lol. Really Matt? If that poll had went the other way and given the SWG haters the ammunition they needed to slam it any more, you and Badger would have been on here swearing up and down that the poll is invalid and isn't a true representation of SWG. So please. Don't try to gas this poll up to be more than what it is just because, for once, it actually went in your favor.
I don't think that's an accurate assumption at all.
I'm curious to see what life lesson you'd try and teach me if I said that absolutely none of that was AFK, so that's going to be my official statement. Please, hit me with your best!
SWG proves the plug doesn't have to be pulled for an MMO to be DEAD. Outside the Starsider server, there is little left.
Incorrect. Try again
I don't have to...all the closed and dead servers attest to my statement.
Hmmm, yes you do. The majority of the games on that list also have a list of closed servers Does that mean every MMO is dead, then?
Nope, I don't. We are talking of the top five games are we not? Then again, Looking over the list, I am not sure there is any game there that is as dead as SWG is. At least the other developers merge their servers as needed, unlike SWG, that collects transfer fees instead - not that there are that many players left to collect from.
You are saying I am incorrect, yet you cannot back-up that statement. You just ineffectively point to other games to deflect attention to SWG's sorry status. Maybe you should try to show us how 'well' populated SWG is?
Argure the % all you want, the other games on the list had equal chance to be voted for, yet they're below SWG. SWG might have 4% of the votes but it's still 5th place, ahead of the majority of MMO's that have been release since SWG launched and went through the CU and NGE. That's pretty good for a game that people here like to say no one likes, no one plays and is dying. Apparaently, they're wrong
Oh for gods sake.
Its not pretty good. If you dont understand statistics, dont post. Here's an example;
If out of 100 people, 18 of them liked apples, 15 of them liked lemons, 13 liked bananas and 10 of them liked pineapples you couldn'y say for definite that they didn't also like the other fruit as well, especially if they hadn't eaten them before. There might also be some Fruitarians amongst them, or some people from a special religious denomination who grew up believing that to eat Lemons helps them to be closer to God etc.
Statistics are skewed, always. Not sometimes... always. Did every single person who plays MMO's vote?? No. Had those same people played all available games to be able to make their choice?? Nope.
Now also take into account that EvE online has around 330,000 active subscribers. (http://www.eveonline.com/pressreleases/default.asp?pressReleaseID=63) and WoW has around 12 million and SWG has 170,000. Yet EvE still got the vast majority of votes. Surely WoW should have had 33 times as many votes? But they didnt, why...?
Can we rule out that WoW's subscribers were so busy playing they didnt have time to vote? Are EvE's subscribers so hardcore that they will vote no matter what? Were SWG's subscribers 'gold sellers' who want more people to join the game?? (yes I know its not gold)
We'll never know. Statistics mean nothing. The fact that you took it so seriously points very clearly to the fact that you were unable to look at it objectively.
Is it still a case of, "Yeh but, like people must luv SWG or they wouldnt vote, so it must still be a gud game rite??? So everyone who quite must be wrong and must have missed what those 4% can see, am I right???? RIGHT???.....guys....?"
No its not.
Take a moment, use your brain... think....
No, it doesn't mean they didn't like the other games in the list, but it does mean that they liked SWG better than those other games listed. The poll isn't a poll of everyone within every MMO community but rather a poll of members at MMORPG.com, which as seen in the poll, don't appear to like WoW as much as they do other games.
Really. So, given that thinking, why isnt SWG second to the top on of the polls on the front page of mmorpg then? You know the section for top voted games?
If you press on the tab for most popular games and click through each one of the week, month and year. Yout wont see it there either.
If you then go to the game list and sort it by rating, SWG is like around the 180 mark. Around 100 of the games above it I havent heard of before, not once. Genuinely, I was shocked to see some of the games out there now. I mean, have you heard of Wakfu?? Its above SWG apparently in the ratings... But let me reply for you, those votes don't count, they aren't accurate statistics...
Heres some more voting lists where SWG doesnt feature at all;
I especially like this one, its Becketts Massive Online Readers Choice Awards. Its supposed to be the most anticipated and most accurate, thousands of votes over a series of months;
I think, if SWG had appeared on any of these, you would have been straight on these forums posting about them. But I notice you havent made any posts about these.
I think the poll you are so pant wettingly pleased about can be summed up by the stunned posts under the article who cant believe who the hell voted for these games. Check this post out;
"I don't even play Eve and I voted for it. LOL"
There's some insight right there into how much meaning should be attached to this award.
Its laudable that you enjoy your SWG game, but more than a little desperate and sad making threads like this and attaching such importance to polls like this. If SWG was so great, why the need to fight its corner, surely we'd know how great it was because we'd be playing it?? And yes, Ive played it recently. Its garbage.
If you like playing it, thats all good. But bleating on here about how its a top rated game doesn't do you much credit
Argure the % all you want, the other games on the list had equal chance to be voted for, yet they're below SWG. SWG might have 4% of the votes but it's still 5th place, ahead of the majority of MMO's that have been release since SWG launched and went through the CU and NGE. That's pretty good for a game that people here like to say no one likes, no one plays and is dying. Apparaently, they're wrong
Oh for gods sake.
Its not pretty good. If you dont understand statistics, dont post. Here's an example;
If out of 100 people, 18 of them liked apples, 15 of them liked lemons, 13 liked bananas and 10 of them liked pineapples you couldn'y say for definite that they didn't also like the other fruit as well, especially if they hadn't eaten them before. There might also be some Fruitarians amongst them, or some people from a special religious denomination who grew up believing that to eat Lemons helps them to be closer to God etc.
Statistics are skewed, always. Not sometimes... always. Did every single person who plays MMO's vote?? No. Had those same people played all available games to be able to make their choice?? Nope.
Now also take into account that EvE online has around 330,000 active subscribers. (http://www.eveonline.com/pressreleases/default.asp?pressReleaseID=63) and WoW has around 12 million and SWG has 170,000. Yet EvE still got the vast majority of votes. Surely WoW should have had 33 times as many votes? But they didnt, why...?
Can we rule out that WoW's subscribers were so busy playing they didnt have time to vote? Are EvE's subscribers so hardcore that they will vote no matter what? Were SWG's subscribers 'gold sellers' who want more people to join the game?? (yes I know its not gold)
We'll never know. Statistics mean nothing. The fact that you took it so seriously points very clearly to the fact that you were unable to look at it objectively.
Is it still a case of, "Yeh but, like people must luv SWG or they wouldnt vote, so it must still be a gud game rite??? So everyone who quite must be wrong and must have missed what those 4% can see, am I right???? RIGHT???.....guys....?"
No its not.
Take a moment, use your brain... think....
No, it doesn't mean they didn't like the other games in the list, but it does mean that they liked SWG better than those other games listed. The poll isn't a poll of everyone within every MMO community but rather a poll of members at MMORPG.com, which as seen in the poll, don't appear to like WoW as much as they do other games.
Really. So, given that thinking, why isnt SWG second to the top on of the polls on the front page of mmorpg then? You know the section for top voted games?
If you press on the tab for most popular games and click through each one of the week, month and year. Yout wont see it there either.
If you then go to the game list and sort it by rating, SWG is like around the 180 mark. Around 100 of the games above it I havent heard of before, not once. Genuinely, I was shocked to see some of the games out there now. I mean, have you heard of Wakfu?? Its above SWG apparently in the ratings... But let me reply for you, those votes don't count, they aren't accurate statistics...
Heres some more voting lists where SWG doesnt feature at all;
I especially like this one, its Becketts Massive Online Readers Choice Awards. Its supposed to be the most anticipated and most accurate, thousands of votes over a series of months;
I think, if SWG had appeared on any of these, you would have been straight on these forums posting about them. But I notice you havent made any posts about these.
I think the poll you are so pant wettingly pleased about can be summed up by the stunned posts under the article who cant believe who the hell voted for these games. Check this post out;
"I don't even play Eve and I voted for it. LOL"
There's some insight right there into how much meaning should be attached to this award.
Its laudable that you enjoy your SWG game, but more than a little desperate and sad making threads like this and attaching such importance to polls like this. If SWG was so great, why the need to fight its corner, surely we'd know how great it was because we'd be playing it?? And yes, Ive played it recently. Its garbage.
If you like playing it, thats all good. But bleating on here about how its a top rated game doesn't do you much credit
The game ratings you see on this site and the poll I've linked to are rather different in how they function. With the game ratings, people can down vote the game with a bad review and bring it down. With the poll, and like with any other poll out there, you can't vote it down, you just vote for something else if you don't like it.
As for the Massive Online Gamer link you posted, it only lists the winner of each category, it doesn't list the runner ups in the categories like MMORPG.com has.
Hmmm, yes you do. The majority of the games on that list also have a list of closed servers Does that mean every MMO is dead, then?
Pretty sure those top 4 don't have many closed servers. Hell, EvE has 0 closed servers . In fairness though, I'm pretty sure that a lot of those listed do not have a list of closed servers. This is just based on the fact many don't have more then a handful of servers to begin with. For example (and not including dev/qa servers):
MortalOnline: 1 server
Darkfall: 2 servers
Perpetuum: 1 server
Fallen Earth: 1 server (as far as I recall)
EvE: 2 servers: China and everyone else
WoW: 3429808 servers (ok, made that up)
My brief experiences with LoTRO, CoX, DDo, and various others on the list prevent me from providing exact numbers except to say they only had a handful of servers when I tried them anyhow so a list of closed servers seems unlikely for them. The most notable server merge games on the list really appear to be AoC, WH, and SWG.
Anyhow that's all just semantics I suppose. Glad the poll results validate your choice of game to play. Personally, after having played pre-CU and trying to go back post-NGE, I just couldn't recapture the magic (yes I've been back a couple times giving it as honest a try as I could). I suppose someone coming at it with a fresh set of eyes might be able to enjoy the game and good for them if they do.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers. Do something wrong, no one forgets" -from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
SWG proves the plug doesn't have to be pulled for an MMO to be DEAD. Outside the Starsider server, there is little left.
Incorrect. Try again
I don't have to...all the closed and dead servers attest to my statement.
Hmmm, yes you do. The majority of the games on that list also have a list of closed servers Does that mean every MMO is dead, then?
Nope, I don't. We are talking of the top five games are we not? Then again, Looking over the list, I am not sure there is any game there that is as dead as SWG is. At least the other developers merge their servers as needed, unlike SWG, that collects transfer fees instead - not that there are that many players left to collect from.
You are saying I am incorrect, yet you cannot back-up that statement. You just ineffectively point to other games to deflect attention to SWG's sorry status. Maybe you should try to show us how 'well' populated SWG is?
And how am I going to show you anything? You don't play the game, nor are you in any position to even consider what I say. It'd be a waste of my time. If the game is as dead as you say it though, why are you here? Why are you here trying to make sure everyone knows that it's "dead" when it should be an obvious fact and not need pointing out if it were actually true.
If the game is as alive as you say it though, why are you here? Why are you here trying to make sure everyone knows that it's alive when it should be an obvious fact and not need pointing out if it were actually true.
SWG proves the plug doesn't have to be pulled for an MMO to be DEAD. Outside the Starsider server, there is little left.
Incorrect. Try again
I don't have to...all the closed and dead servers attest to my statement.
Hmmm, yes you do. The majority of the games on that list also have a list of closed servers Does that mean every MMO is dead, then?
Nope, I don't. We are talking of the top five games are we not? Then again, Looking over the list, I am not sure there is any game there that is as dead as SWG is. At least the other developers merge their servers as needed, unlike SWG, that collects transfer fees instead - not that there are that many players left to collect from.
You are saying I am incorrect, yet you cannot back-up that statement. You just ineffectively point to other games to deflect attention to SWG's sorry status. Maybe you should try to show us how 'well' populated SWG is?
And how am I going to show you anything? You don't play the game, nor are you in any position to even consider what I say. It'd be a waste of my time. If the game is as dead as you say it though, why are you here? Why are you here trying to make sure everyone knows that it's "dead" when it should be an obvious fact and not need pointing out if it were actually true.
If the game is as alive as you say it though, why are you here? Why are you here trying to make sure everyone knows that it's alive when it should be an obvious fact and not need pointing out if it were actually true.
I haven't been...this is the first time I've posted here for quite a few months now
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Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.Simple why SWG was voted, very simple, in an age that the MMOs are most of the same with better graphics only and without content, SWG have a complex and interesting space system, craft complex (without decay because of NGE of course, pre CU was better) with resources management, complex resources attribute and spaw, vendors, factory, etc, customizable appearence gear, beast mastery, the better housing system, a big map, class+expertise+customizable stats gear+GCW skills give more diversification than the most MMOs, Role Play tools, mature player base, bounty hunting system, alot of quests, PvP, little instantiated, collection system, badge system, events, heroic encounters and much more.
I prefer pre CU system, however the NGE can be better that alot of shit launched in the last times.
Sorry for my poor english, isn't my first language.
Yeah it is funny that a game full of ghost town servers becomes number 5. If only .01% of wows subs voted on this wow would destroy the poll due to shear numbers!
Oh for gods sake.
Its not pretty good. If you dont understand statistics, dont post. Here's an example;
If out of 100 people, 18 of them liked apples, 15 of them liked lemons, 13 liked bananas and 10 of them liked pineapples you couldn'y say for definite that they didn't also like the other fruit as well, especially if they hadn't eaten them before. There might also be some Fruitarians amongst them, or some people from a special religious denomination who grew up believing that to eat Lemons helps them to be closer to God etc.
Statistics are skewed, always. Not sometimes... always. Did every single person who plays MMO's vote?? No. Had those same people played all available games to be able to make their choice?? Nope.
Now also take into account that EvE online has around 330,000 active subscribers. (http://www.eveonline.com/pressreleases/default.asp?pressReleaseID=63) and WoW has around 12 million and SWG has 170,000. Yet EvE still got the vast majority of votes. Surely WoW should have had 33 times as many votes? But they didnt, why...?
Can we rule out that WoW's subscribers were so busy playing they didnt have time to vote? Are EvE's subscribers so hardcore that they will vote no matter what? Were SWG's subscribers 'gold sellers' who want more people to join the game?? (yes I know its not gold)
We'll never know. Statistics mean nothing. The fact that you took it so seriously points very clearly to the fact that you were unable to look at it objectively.
Is it still a case of, "Yeh but, like people must luv SWG or they wouldnt vote, so it must still be a gud game rite??? So everyone who quite must be wrong and must have missed what those 4% can see, am I right???? RIGHT???.....guys....?"
No its not.
Take a moment, use your brain... think....
And look at all the games that lost to SWG by twice or more the % of SWG Games that had been predicted to be the "death" of SWG and to be the final nail in the coffin. Not only has that not happen, people apparently prefer SWG over them.
No, it doesn't mean they didn't like the other games in the list, but it does mean that they liked SWG better than those other games listed. The poll isn't a poll of everyone within every MMO community but rather a poll of members at MMORPG.com, which as seen in the poll, don't appear to like WoW as much as they do other games.
And your point? Such threads existed on the EvE forums too, http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1432096. Also has negative comments directed towards the game by current players
/roll eyes
SWG proves the plug doesn't have to be pulled for an MMO to be DEAD. Outside the Starsider server, there is little left.
Then perhaps theyr'e doing something right? EVE for example has the one server with lots of people in it. Maybe thats the way to go when you don't have a ginormous player base.
No need to apologise, Crucial. Your post was a lot more accurate than many native English speakers in this thread.
Incorrect. Try again
Lol. Really Matt? If that poll had went the other way and given the SWG haters the ammunition they needed to slam it any more, you and Badger would have been on here swearing up and down that the poll is invalid and isn't a true representation of SWG. So please. Don't try to gas this poll up to be more than what it is just because, for once, it actually went in your favor.
I don't think that's an accurate assumption at all.
I don't have to...all the closed and dead servers attest to my statement.
Hmmm, yes you do. The majority of the games on that list also have a list of closed servers Does that mean every MMO is dead, then?
I'm curious to see what life lesson you'd try and teach me if I said that absolutely none of that was AFK, so that's going to be my official statement. Please, hit me with your best!
Nope, I don't. We are talking of the top five games are we not? Then again, Looking over the list, I am not sure there is any game there that is as dead as SWG is. At least the other developers merge their servers as needed, unlike SWG, that collects transfer fees instead - not that there are that many players left to collect from.
You are saying I am incorrect, yet you cannot back-up that statement. You just ineffectively point to other games to deflect attention to SWG's sorry status. Maybe you should try to show us how 'well' populated SWG is?
Really. So, given that thinking, why isnt SWG second to the top on of the polls on the front page of mmorpg then? You know the section for top voted games?
If you press on the tab for most popular games and click through each one of the week, month and year. Yout wont see it there either.
If you then go to the game list and sort it by rating, SWG is like around the 180 mark. Around 100 of the games above it I havent heard of before, not once. Genuinely, I was shocked to see some of the games out there now. I mean, have you heard of Wakfu?? Its above SWG apparently in the ratings... But let me reply for you, those votes don't count, they aren't accurate statistics...
Heres some more voting lists where SWG doesnt feature at all;
http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/top-ten-mmorpg-games.asp
http://gamedrone.net/2009/08/13/top-10-mmo-games-of-2010/
http://www.mmogamesite.com/top-mmorpg/top-mmorpgs-in-2010.html
I especially like this one, its Becketts Massive Online Readers Choice Awards. Its supposed to be the most anticipated and most accurate, thousands of votes over a series of months;
http://www.massiveonlinegamer.com/announcements/1013-wizard101-wins-big-in-massive-online-gamer-readers-choice-awards
I think, if SWG had appeared on any of these, you would have been straight on these forums posting about them. But I notice you havent made any posts about these.
I think the poll you are so pant wettingly pleased about can be summed up by the stunned posts under the article who cant believe who the hell voted for these games. Check this post out;
"I don't even play Eve and I voted for it. LOL"
There's some insight right there into how much meaning should be attached to this award.
Its laudable that you enjoy your SWG game, but more than a little desperate and sad making threads like this and attaching such importance to polls like this. If SWG was so great, why the need to fight its corner, surely we'd know how great it was because we'd be playing it?? And yes, Ive played it recently. Its garbage.
If you like playing it, thats all good. But bleating on here about how its a top rated game doesn't do you much credit
The truth is out there...
http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/players/content.vm?id=62963
Anyone can see for themselves.
The game ratings you see on this site and the poll I've linked to are rather different in how they function. With the game ratings, people can down vote the game with a bad review and bring it down. With the poll, and like with any other poll out there, you can't vote it down, you just vote for something else if you don't like it.
As for the Massive Online Gamer link you posted, it only lists the winner of each category, it doesn't list the runner ups in the categories like MMORPG.com has.
Pretty sure those top 4 don't have many closed servers. Hell, EvE has 0 closed servers . In fairness though, I'm pretty sure that a lot of those listed do not have a list of closed servers. This is just based on the fact many don't have more then a handful of servers to begin with. For example (and not including dev/qa servers):
MortalOnline: 1 server
Darkfall: 2 servers
Perpetuum: 1 server
Fallen Earth: 1 server (as far as I recall)
EvE: 2 servers: China and everyone else
WoW: 3429808 servers (ok, made that up)
My brief experiences with LoTRO, CoX, DDo, and various others on the list prevent me from providing exact numbers except to say they only had a handful of servers when I tried them anyhow so a list of closed servers seems unlikely for them. The most notable server merge games on the list really appear to be AoC, WH, and SWG.
Anyhow that's all just semantics I suppose. Glad the poll results validate your choice of game to play. Personally, after having played pre-CU and trying to go back post-NGE, I just couldn't recapture the magic (yes I've been back a couple times giving it as honest a try as I could). I suppose someone coming at it with a fresh set of eyes might be able to enjoy the game and good for them if they do.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
-from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
If the game is as alive as you say it though, why are you here? Why are you here trying to make sure everyone knows that it's alive when it should be an obvious fact and not need pointing out if it were actually true.
I haven't been...this is the first time I've posted here for quite a few months now
You are very witty.
Meh. This thread has peaked my interest. Whats the most populated server? I'll give SWG a go.
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