Is this serious?! Lifetime.. anyone expect to play the same game when they're 70? jezes..
It takes just about 2 years of playing to make up for that cost. That is not a bad deal at all.
There is no scamming going on people. You pay, you get what you paid for in return. It's very simple, if you do not like it move on to a game that you do like and leave others alone to enjoy what they like, you wouldn't want them to come into your house or place of business and just because your price is higher, or made of different material then what they like to start bashing you and possibly your products would you for no reason?
Nope? Didn't think so.
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CDF tatics on full display , if you don't like the message attack the poster as having some sort of grudge or impairment that they are incapable of being impartial. If that doesn't work , the other obvious avenue is to suggest that you shouldn't criticize their fun just because you don't enjoy it.
Most LFS for games have more then 30 days worth of content . On average to level a character would take anywhere from 3 mo to 6 mo for a casual gamer. CO and STO takes in about 30 days at a leisurely pace. Once there , what is the endgame content ?
In the year this game has been out , I've leveled two characters to max, required 45 days. On the return weekend I topped off one toon just for kicks , without any effort. I've not deemed this game to have sufficient content to warrant a LFS. The money I've already saved justifies my stance.
The chorus of replies will sound well in a year it'll have so much more content . In which time I could return play the content pay my $ 15 dollars/mo and still be greatly more ahead financially. I'll also hear; " the Foundry will save the game " . Really, so I'm paying for every snot nosed kids opinion on what a ST story should be ? Then why am I paying a sub , to play on Cryptics servers ? Then I'm over paying . What exactly is Cryptic's job in all this , other then to take my money . Cryptic's had a year to dev the game and at best by my calculations they've added maybe 16 to 26 hours of content since release. Most games double their content.
I could go on and on with what's wrong with these games . The question people need to ask , if this weren't skinned as a Star Trek game would you waste your time ? If you weren't blinded by the Star Trek skin would you be here? If you would and you aren't playing CO then you are a hyopcrit. If you are playing CO , congratulations , you're just the person Cryptic is looking for.
CDF tatics on full display , if you don't like the message attack the poster as having some sort of grudge or impairment that they are incapable of being impartial. If that doesn't work , the other obvious avenue is to suggest that you shouldn't criticize their fun just because you don't enjoy it.
That's right you shouldn't criticize others because you don't enjoy the game and they do. But you and "defence" do it time and time again. Both of your post history speaks for itself. I don't honestly care what you say or think about about Cryptic or their games. It has zero influence on what I decide to play. But when you say when someone doesn't like the message, attack the poster as having a grudge against the company or the game all I can say is look at your post history. When 90% of it is negative against the game or the company I'm going to have a hard time viewing you as impartial.
SS already commented and explained very well about the LTS in your thread and both you and "defence" read what you wanted to read. It was a good thread because people that don't even play the game corrected you and "defence" and I still don't think the two of you get it.
CDF tatics on full display , if you don't like the message attack the poster as having some sort of grudge or impairment that they are incapable of being impartial. If that doesn't work , the other obvious avenue is to suggest that you shouldn't criticize their fun just because you don't enjoy it.
That's right you shouldn't criticize others because you don't enjoy the game and they do. But you and "defence" do it time and time again. Both of your post history speaks for itself. I don't honestly care what you say or think about about Cryptic or their games. It has zero influence on what I decide to play. But when you say when someone doesn't like the message, attack the poster as having a grudge against the company or the game all I can say is look at your post history. When 90% of it is negative against the game or the company I'm going to have a hard time viewing you as impartial.
SS already commented and explained very well about the LTS in your thread and both you and "defence" read what you wanted to read. It was a good thread because people that don't even play the game corrected you and "defence" and I still don't think the two of you get it.
If you'd actually bothered to read my statement , I was calling out Cryptic for there lack of full disclosure on the STO boards. While that may not bother you , it's an all too frequent occurance with this company. One that is now a history with the company , one that costs people money , to Cryptic's benefit ( dare I say on purpose, gasp , although no company would dare do that ? ) . Too many people I know bought LTS , much to their chagrin.
As for my posting history , while I'm flattered you find me that interesting , you'll find most of post either correct misconceptions with the game , critique game design /engine/business practices or general laziness on the devs part. Oh and everyones favorite whipping boy the C-Store. I've been guilty of general statements of mockery directed at some posts , the majority of my posts have varied little from the above. It seems that the truth irks those who would rather have it hidden.
If you believe that the economic model of an LTS in an MMO makes sense then you're welcome to purchase it. The refrain will sound , " but over time it'll pay for it's self ! " Please remember you live in a capitalist society and nothing is free , just the preception that it is. Turbine's and Cryptic's models are still in the early phases of life , how this model functions in 3 , 5 and 10 years is to be seen. I suspect these companies will find methods to extract money from even the LTS , since that is the ultimate goal, business generates capital .
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All i have to say is .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHsx1cvACkY&feature=related
Gets trashed? I would say that STO already got trashed by Eve.
To be honest I am not sure what people, who are subscribed to the game, are doing. The game felt extremely shallow when I played it.
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It takes just about 2 years of playing to make up for that cost. That is not a bad deal at all.
There is no scamming going on people. You pay, you get what you paid for in return. It's very simple, if you do not like it move on to a game that you do like and leave others alone to enjoy what they like, you wouldn't want them to come into your house or place of business and just because your price is higher, or made of different material then what they like to start bashing you and possibly your products would you for no reason?
Nope? Didn't think so.
Owner/Admin of GodlessGamer.com - Gaming news and reviews for the godless.
CDF tatics on full display , if you don't like the message attack the poster as having some sort of grudge or impairment that they are incapable of being impartial. If that doesn't work , the other obvious avenue is to suggest that you shouldn't criticize their fun just because you don't enjoy it.
Most LFS for games have more then 30 days worth of content . On average to level a character would take anywhere from 3 mo to 6 mo for a casual gamer. CO and STO takes in about 30 days at a leisurely pace. Once there , what is the endgame content ?
In the year this game has been out , I've leveled two characters to max, required 45 days. On the return weekend I topped off one toon just for kicks , without any effort. I've not deemed this game to have sufficient content to warrant a LFS. The money I've already saved justifies my stance.
The chorus of replies will sound well in a year it'll have so much more content . In which time I could return play the content pay my $ 15 dollars/mo and still be greatly more ahead financially. I'll also hear; " the Foundry will save the game " . Really, so I'm paying for every snot nosed kids opinion on what a ST story should be ? Then why am I paying a sub , to play on Cryptics servers ? Then I'm over paying . What exactly is Cryptic's job in all this , other then to take my money . Cryptic's had a year to dev the game and at best by my calculations they've added maybe 16 to 26 hours of content since release. Most games double their content.
I could go on and on with what's wrong with these games . The question people need to ask , if this weren't skinned as a Star Trek game would you waste your time ? If you weren't blinded by the Star Trek skin would you be here? If you would and you aren't playing CO then you are a hyopcrit. If you are playing CO , congratulations , you're just the person Cryptic is looking for.
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If you'd actually bothered to read my statement , I was calling out Cryptic for there lack of full disclosure on the STO boards. While that may not bother you , it's an all too frequent occurance with this company. One that is now a history with the company , one that costs people money , to Cryptic's benefit ( dare I say on purpose, gasp , although no company would dare do that ? ) . Too many people I know bought LTS , much to their chagrin.
As for my posting history , while I'm flattered you find me that interesting , you'll find most of post either correct misconceptions with the game , critique game design /engine/business practices or general laziness on the devs part. Oh and everyones favorite whipping boy the C-Store. I've been guilty of general statements of mockery directed at some posts , the majority of my posts have varied little from the above. It seems that the truth irks those who would rather have it hidden.
If you believe that the economic model of an LTS in an MMO makes sense then you're welcome to purchase it. The refrain will sound , " but over time it'll pay for it's self ! " Please remember you live in a capitalist society and nothing is free , just the preception that it is. Turbine's and Cryptic's models are still in the early phases of life , how this model functions in 3 , 5 and 10 years is to be seen. I suspect these companies will find methods to extract money from even the LTS , since that is the ultimate goal, business generates capital .
when will the life time sub expire ?
i still see the life time sub option on the site .