SWTOR out in September, so says leading industry website

Shoko_Lied

Originally posted by levin70

Originally posted by denshing

Originally posted by Kickphat

I don't think those guys know what they are talking about because they said it's only been in development for 2 years. that is when they came out and said they have been working on the game.

october of 08 was indeed when they announced the title officially, however knowledge that bioware was making a MMO had been officially announced and in circulation as far back as mid 2006 when bioware first gave word that they 'had been working on a MMORPG'.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6172473.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B4

The date of this article is mid 07, and it says quote:  "Last year, BioWare announced its entry into the massively multiplayer role-playing game market."

 

This means open knowledge of biowares development of a 'MMORPG', dates back to 2006. I personally speculate they were driven to the task of making a MMORPG about the KOTOR universe as early as 2005, when the NGE hit Star Wars Galaxies.

In fact, KOTOR 2 was released February 8th, 2005. They probably started becoming tasked on initial lore, art, story ideas, and engine development around the time they released KOTOR 2, possibly even before the official launch of KOTOR 2. Because we all know developers love to start working on their next task as early in advance as they can.

 "they" as in BW did not work on Kotor 2 - that was obsidian.  Kotor 1 was bioware.

 

Regards

I forgot about that. This pushes back the possibility of their initial development window even further. I remember hearing that the reason they gave the project to obsidian was so they could work on other tasks that they were into like dragon age, ect. So perhaps one of those other 'tasks', just so happens to be the SWTOR we know today.

I mean, they had to do a lot of modification to their graphics engine from before they started anything in the development side. Also a lot of  think tanks to brainstorm before the initial world started coming into place, I can easily see this time spent being used for the MMO.

JLVDB

Expect a 6 months long building up (Beta leaks, Beta, still more Beta) for a game this big and it is no surprise the game was postponed.

I even find September a very sharp deadline. But ... EA's WAR also released in September.

Apparently voice recording takes a very long time these days ... ))

I think the phasing is the most troubling for EA at the moment. How to include it with a non adapted MMO engine? Programmers are making over time. No doubt about that.

 

 

BarakIII

What a pathetic article. I got a laugh when they try to pass EALouse off as a BW dev. Then they add to that by quoting that Bigpoint CEO? What a laugh. This article was written for one reason and one reason only, to stir up controversy which always helps the bottom line.

BarakIII

Originally posted by JLVDB

Expect a 6 months long building up (Beta leaks, Beta, still more Beta) for a game this big and it is no surprise the game was postponed.

I even find September a very sharp deadline. But ... EA's WAR also released in September.

Apparently voice recording takes a very long time these days ... ))

I think the phasing is the most troubling for EA at the moment. How to include it with a non adapted MMO engine? Programmers are making over time. No doubt about that.

 

 

The game hasn't been postponed, not yet anyway. Also, if you mean open beta, expect them to only have four weeks of open beta. They've been in closed beta for months.

Also, to those talking about how long it's been in development, the article is wrong about that, it's been in development for over five years. They simply officially announced it two years ago, after years of rumors they were working on it I might add.

Shoko_Lied

Originally posted by BarakIII

Originally posted by JLVDB

Expect a 6 months long building up (Beta leaks, Beta, still more Beta) for a game this big and it is no surprise the game was postponed.

I even find September a very sharp deadline. But ... EA's WAR also released in September.

Apparently voice recording takes a very long time these days ... ))

I think the phasing is the most troubling for EA at the moment. How to include it with a non adapted MMO engine? Programmers are making over time. No doubt about that.

 

 

The game hasn't been postponed, not yet anyway. Also, if you mean open beta, expect them to only have four weeks of open beta. They've been in closed beta for months.

Also, to those talking about how long it's been in development, the article is wrong about that, it's been in development for over five years. They simply officially announced it two years ago, after years of rumors they were working on it I might add.

The first actual announcement that bioware officially made declaring the fact that they were working on a MMORPG stems back to 2006. Even then they had probably been working on it some time.

Qazz

As long as it's "ready" we don't mind the wait.  We've all see pre-mature births that have caused miscarriages.

BarakIII

Originally posted by denshing

Originally posted by BarakIII

Originally posted by JLVDB

Expect a 6 months long building up (Beta leaks, Beta, still more Beta) for a game this big and it is no surprise the game was postponed.

I even find September a very sharp deadline. But ... EA's WAR also released in September.

Apparently voice recording takes a very long time these days ... ))

I think the phasing is the most troubling for EA at the moment. How to include it with a non adapted MMO engine? Programmers are making over time. No doubt about that.

 

 

The game hasn't been postponed, not yet anyway. Also, if you mean open beta, expect them to only have four weeks of open beta. They've been in closed beta for months.

Also, to those talking about how long it's been in development, the article is wrong about that, it's been in development for over five years. They simply officially announced it two years ago, after years of rumors they were working on it I might add.

The first actual announcement that bioware officially made declaring the fact that they were working on a MMORPG stems back to 2006. Even then they had probably been working on it some time.

Yes, but they would never say what title they were working on. The rumors were rampant of course, but they would never confirm them. All we knew officially was that it was some anonymous MMO.

Deewe

Originally posted by BarakIII

Originally posted by denshing

Originally posted by BarakIII

Originally posted by JLVDB

Expect a 6 months long building up (Beta leaks, Beta, still more Beta) for a game this big and it is no surprise the game was postponed.

I even find September a very sharp deadline. But ... EA's WAR also released in September.

Apparently voice recording takes a very long time these days ... ))

I think the phasing is the most troubling for EA at the moment. How to include it with a non adapted MMO engine? Programmers are making over time. No doubt about that.

 

 

The game hasn't been postponed, not yet anyway. Also, if you mean open beta, expect them to only have four weeks of open beta. They've been in closed beta for months.

Also, to those talking about how long it's been in development, the article is wrong about that, it's been in development for over five years. They simply officially announced it two years ago, after years of rumors they were working on it I might add.

The first actual announcement that bioware officially made declaring the fact that they were working on a MMORPG stems back to 2006. Even then they had probably been working on it some time.

Yes, but they would never say what title they were working on. The rumors were rampant of course, but they would never confirm them. All we knew officially was that it was some anonymous MMO.

Clicky

"Gordon Walton, co-studio director, BioWare Austin: We announced the game around March, but we'd really started on it in the beginning of December 2005."

Don't have the link but in an interview they admitted starting in 2005. Then we all know what IP Gordon is working upon.

ThomasN7

Well if this is true then it will have to possibly contend with Guild Wars 2 which is not a good thing for them.

SuperXero89

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Well if this is true then it will have to possibly contend with Guild Wars 2 which is not a good thing for them.

More likely the other way around, but that aside, I hope this is a false rumor.  Tired of all the games I want to play coming out at the start of a school semester.  

ThomasN7

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Well if this is true then it will have to possibly contend with Guild Wars 2 which is not a good thing for them.

More likely the other way around, but that aside, I hope this is a false rumor.  Tired of all the games I want to play coming out at the start of a school semester.  

 Well lets hope we do not get another delay after September because then it would start reminding me of Warhammer delays and we all know what happed to that game.

Korithian

 Nobody is forcing anybody to read these articles you don't have to but to have a go if someone tries to pass on some possible news seems crazy. Believe it or don't but don't shot the messenger.

 

As for the news I don't think this will come as a surprise to anyone. Though It is good news for DCUO and RIFT, I am sure many ToR fans have been waiting for the game to come out. With the delay it would seem like an ideal time to check out the new titles if nothing more than to kill the 8 months till the next delay.

 

Perhaps a better question is after the 5 years + of development the 4 months of game testing (I heard rumours of it going on longer) what hurdles have been hit by Bioware to warrant the delay. Have they bitten off more than they can chew and we will see some big retractions on the story/companion/consequences or is it merely more time needed for balancing. And what does this mean for future patches and expansions, is the complexity of weaving all those classes and companions and storylines together going to be a nightmare for the development team making additional content expensive to produce and therefore very rare.

GMan3

Originally posted by Korithian

 Nobody is forcing anybody to read these articles you don't have to but to have a go if someone tries to pass on some possible news seems crazy. Believe it or don't but don't shot the messenger.

 

As for the news I don't think this will come as a surprise to anyone. Though It is good news for DCUO and RIFT, I am sure many ToR fans have been waiting for the game to come out. With the delay it would seem like an ideal time to check out the new titles if nothing more than to kill the 8 months till the next delay.

 

Perhaps a better question is after the 5 years + of development the 4 months of game testing (I heard rumours of it going on longer) what hurdles have been hit by Bioware to warrant the delay. Have they bitten off more than they can chew and we will see some big retractions on the story/companion/consequences or is it merely more time needed for balancing. And what does this mean for future patches and expansions, is the complexity of weaving all those classes and companions and storylines together going to be a nightmare for the development team making additional content expensive to produce and therefore very rare.

     According to a post by an actual BioWare employee on the official SWTOR fourms, they haven't hit a snag and the game is still set to come out in the spring.  Seeing how this was just posted yesterday, it is actually THEE most up to date information we have too.  Check it for yourself:

  http://swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=255000

(Thanks to Whilan for finding this post and making it it's own thread on these forums)

  Anything else on ANY other website that can't even name their sources OR references disgruntled FORMER employees should probably be taken as baseless rumors until BioWare actually says otherwise.

Tiller

The Lousecateers at work again.

nomss

Originally posted by Qazz

As long as it's "ready" we don't mind the wait.  We've all see pre-mature births that have caused miscarriages.

Yea man, I'm sick of this rushing in games. Look at DCUO; after the game is released, their main priority is UI. This is so pathetic... unspeakable.

I would like to see BioWare tell us about the expansion that'll be released after 6 months on the next day of SWTOR release date.

BarakIII

Originally posted by tillamook

The Lousecateers at work again.

Exactly. I love how so many posters are accepting this article as fact when so much of what the article says is wrong. The game may well eventually be pushed back, but there's absolutely nothing in this article that gives any sort of reliable information and yet already you have a bunch of people taking it as gosple. I can't decide whether that's funny or sad. I mean, come on people, they are quoting EALouse as if he were a BW dev and he's not. We don't even know for sure if he's what he claims to be, a fired Mythic employee who by his own admission never worked in the Austin stuido much less on TOR itself. If so much of the article is bogus, doesn't it make sense the entire premise of the push back is likely bogus too? I can't believe anybody would accept an article like this at face value.

Kothoses

Originally posted by DarthMaulUK

According to trade industry website – MCVUK, Star Wars: The Old Republic will arrive later than expected, in September 2011.  Here is the low down -

BioWare’s MMO will arrive later than some had expected, sources tell MCV

Long-awaited MMO Star Wars: Old Republic will be released worldwide this September, development sources have told MCV. The date is later than many had predicted, with EA CEO John Riccitiello himself suggesting a year ago that a spring 2011 release was likely. The game has been in development for over two years and is, by the admission of developer BioWare, its biggest title to date with “more content than Mass Effect one and two, Dragon Age, Knights of the Old Republic and Baldur’s Gate put together”.

 

More through the link

 

 

Wow so much wrong here. 

Firstly, this "leading industry website" is just another low traffic hack wanting to ride a bandwagon to extra hits.

 

Second developement time is nearly 6 years by the time releease comes round (some of us have been following this since it was whispers on the old NWN community)

 

Yeah, I am going to trust some pissant website who cant even do any research or site sources.

 

Another "some guy on the internet has an opinion and a website" fail.

whilan

I would suggest to get it from the horses mouth on the first of feb, heres the link to all the info

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/367/view/forums/thread/304625/page/1

Eladi

more content than Mass Effect one and two, Dragon Age, Knights of the Old Republic and Baldur’s Gate put together”.

 

Funny, I never heared them say that either. more contend then one of those game,yea they said that, think even once said Me&ME2 but never the full list - Put together-  , it would be possible ofc but sites like that create dumb hype that in the end blows back in the developers face while those sites cash in on pagevies/ads

fivoroth

As many have pointed out, this website doesn't seem reliable.

It better come out much earlier or else!

Mazin

Originally posted by Eladi

more content than Mass Effect one and two, Dragon Age, Knights of the Old Republic and Baldur’s Gate put together”.

 

Funny, I never heared them say that either. more contend then one of those game,yea they said that, think even once said Me&ME2 but never the full list - Put together-  , it would be possible ofc but sites like that create dumb hype that in the end blows back in the developers face while those sites cash in on pagevies/ads

They actually have said that, I'll try and find a link for yah.

Ok I found a link of what he actually said, it was in PC Gamer April 2010 issue.

http://pc-gaming.dcemu.co.uk/star-wars-the-old-republic-bioware-s-biggest-ever-game-299584.html

Boudewijns

well realy dont care i rather wait for month and have a nice mmo then one that full of bugs like some other mmo's that r more then 4y old

Hopscotch73

Meh, "leading industry site"? It must be flying under the radar...

Release date speculation for SW:TOR is a guaranteed web traffic-generator. I think that "leading industry site" is trying to pump up its pageviews...

I'm not hanging my hat on a spring release for the game (a personal thing, managing my own expectations), but the only release date I will lend any weight to is one announced by BioWare and EA (with all the attendant fanfare).  I'm not entirely convinced we'll see that announcement before PAX.

Adamantine

All professional multimilliondollar AAA games have a development time of at least 5 years.

That rule applies to SWTOR as well.

The rumor that the publishing of SWTOR would be delayed is apparently started by a disgrunteled ex-employee of EA. I doubt it has much merit.

And even if its true, so what ? Bioware has always developed games with the motto "its done when its done".

GMan3

    I just checked the website that started this discussion.  Read the article and everything all over again.  Then I went and read the 34 (so far) comments on the article and the funny this is, that sites normal customer base is tearing the "journalism" apart in that article.  Seems even people in the UK recognize the shoddy journalism and misleading information in it as well.  On top of that, one of the alledged "Higher Ups" in the company even tried to defend it in the comments and when he was called on HIS misrepresentations, he got hostile. 

    Let's face it, if this website had any credibility, they would either admit a bad decision in publishing this "Guess-timate" or list their sources to prove they are right.