I think a good many people want what is now old to be new again.
This x1000.
There are a very large amount of MMO Vets waiting around for a new game to take the features that made those older MMOs good. And no, anyone who says it's nostalgia likely hasn't played older MMOs. How many MMOs out there offers the same features as UO, DAoC or maybe SWG (Pre-CU)? Obviously there's a few, but outside of EVE, others aren't quite succesfull or playable/broken. Sandbox, FFA PvP (Full Loot), great crafting system and economy, etc. There's just no MMOs like these that lets players do what they want rather than forcing players into a long corridor with no way out but forward.
First, I think a huge portion of the "I want it the old to be new again" crowd can be divided into two camps: those who long for the days when the biggest MMOs were sandboxes, and those who long for the days when they were newbies and didn't understand the basic systems that almost all MMOs are built on, when just the fact that they were an avatar in a huge virtual world was cool enough to have fun.
Second, I think the first of the six "goals" is ridiculous. People can and do make judgements about things, particularly sources of entertainment, before seeing them. I don't like horror movies, and it's perfectly normal for people to say "I don't want to see that movie" and have it accepted. People should be able to say "I don't want to play that game" without other people jumping on them. Of course, all bets are off if people hide behind stupid or irrational justifications for why they don't like something that make no sense or are just wrong (e.g., "I won't play GW2 because NCSoft just makes lame asian grinders!")....if you don't like something, just say so.
Good article, Bill, and I agreed with most of the points and the overall tone.
I do sometimes wonder if gaming forums are used as a way of releasing pent-up rage because the level of anger, to me anyway, seems way out of proportion to the subject (ie games, just games, you know that we play for relaxation, fun, pleasure).
It seems absurd to me to be hateful about games (particularly ones I haven't played, but even those I have played) and rude to those who like games which I don't. It reminds me of being a teenager and how people would be hyper-critical of someone else's taste of music/football team/fashion if it was different to their own. If my brain didn't feel like so much mush these days, I would spend some time trying to come up with some theory about what's really going on, but ... meh.
Maybe I have a distorted yet negitive point of view. but I find that most americans (myself included in this) have an issue with entitlement. They feel they are entitled to anything they want, because they want it.
Most of the authors thoughts on what he should and should not do, have merit, and we should not judge him harshly for his opinion. Because it's his alone he doesn't speak for MMORPG.com or for anyone else.
I've experienced the same phenomone that Elikal has with wow. People get in pugs get what they want and drop. Those people will live lonely lives, and I pity them.
And Just because you may be in a "relationship" that doesn't mean you can't be lonely.
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This x1000.
There are a very large amount of MMO Vets waiting around for a new game to take the features that made those older MMOs good. And no, anyone who says it's nostalgia likely hasn't played older MMOs. How many MMOs out there offers the same features as UO, DAoC or maybe SWG (Pre-CU)? Obviously there's a few, but outside of EVE, others aren't quite succesfull or playable/broken. Sandbox, FFA PvP (Full Loot), great crafting system and economy, etc. There's just no MMOs like these that lets players do what they want rather than forcing players into a long corridor with no way out but forward.
Well put ..
Gikku
Two things:
First, I think a huge portion of the "I want it the old to be new again" crowd can be divided into two camps: those who long for the days when the biggest MMOs were sandboxes, and those who long for the days when they were newbies and didn't understand the basic systems that almost all MMOs are built on, when just the fact that they were an avatar in a huge virtual world was cool enough to have fun.
Second, I think the first of the six "goals" is ridiculous. People can and do make judgements about things, particularly sources of entertainment, before seeing them. I don't like horror movies, and it's perfectly normal for people to say "I don't want to see that movie" and have it accepted. People should be able to say "I don't want to play that game" without other people jumping on them. Of course, all bets are off if people hide behind stupid or irrational justifications for why they don't like something that make no sense or are just wrong (e.g., "I won't play GW2 because NCSoft just makes lame asian grinders!")....if you don't like something, just say so.
Good article, Bill, and I agreed with most of the points and the overall tone.
I do sometimes wonder if gaming forums are used as a way of releasing pent-up rage because the level of anger, to me anyway, seems way out of proportion to the subject (ie games, just games, you know that we play for relaxation, fun, pleasure).
It seems absurd to me to be hateful about games (particularly ones I haven't played, but even those I have played) and rude to those who like games which I don't. It reminds me of being a teenager and how people would be hyper-critical of someone else's taste of music/football team/fashion if it was different to their own. If my brain didn't feel like so much mush these days, I would spend some time trying to come up with some theory about what's really going on, but ... meh.
Maybe I have a distorted yet negitive point of view. but I find that most americans (myself included in this) have an issue with entitlement. They feel they are entitled to anything they want, because they want it.
Most of the authors thoughts on what he should and should not do, have merit, and we should not judge him harshly for his opinion. Because it's his alone he doesn't speak for MMORPG.com or for anyone else.
I've experienced the same phenomone that Elikal has with wow. People get in pugs get what they want and drop. Those people will live lonely lives, and I pity them.
And Just because you may be in a "relationship" that doesn't mean you can't be lonely.