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Why does nothing compare to FFXI?
Laroque
Member Posts: 10
My love for FFXI will NEVER be matched by any other love for any game, woman, or other creation on the face of the earth. I have quit playing now for a while, which probably doesnt say much if im to be in a relationship lol, but I never stop thinking about how i wish the dying community would some how rejuvinate and attract more gamers. I wish for a new game sometimes from the same creators, someone who truly understands why they made the game the way they did. I think these people have since moved on to bigger and better things in their eyes, but i don't think most people will ever truly understand how brilliant the creation of FFXI was. I know alot of people dislike it because it is difficult and so time consuming, but it is just that that draws the true fans of FFXI into it so deeply. We play with a dedication unmatched by any other gamer. We love our game like we love our mothers. We know that even though in some other games you may be very close to achieving almost everything you can of importance in the game, in FFXI we will never ever be satisfied with what we have done. We don't look at the past and wish we would have done this or that. We know that there is always a bright future in our "real world" of FFXI. There is so much to be done and so little time. Yet you never feel behind. You enjoy every moment of playing. It is never a grind to level this class or that class. I came into this post thinking i would be able to epicly describe my amazing experience with the game, but it seems so hard to put its Absolute authority over my gaming emotions into words. I think most of it comes from the adventure you start. In most MMORPG you follow questlines strictly to get through levels fast and reach the top. I went from level 10 to level 85 in less than one month while playing WOW. In FFXI even though i had over 65 days of active time at one point i wasnt even 2/3 of the way to any job's level cap. I enjoyed every second i played though. And even if i wasn't doing anything at all i wasnt bored and i never thought about logging off unless i had some PRESSING matter IRL. As a teen with no obligations and friends i would play from 10:00 AM to about 2-3:00 am the next day with only stopping when i absolutely had to. Some may call this an unhealth addiction, but even now that i don't game much anymore. Those were some of the most enjoyable times of my life and i have never been able to recreate those moments in anything i've done. .....................................
Now the purpose of this post was not to just talk up FFXI in my own view, but to ask if anyone else feels the same way. And why can't we all come together with our experience of this game to create something like it again? We are not stupid. We know what we want and understand this different level of gaming experience. It is like we understand this great ancient language but are unable to speak it. I can't understand why we as gamers have not pulled together to create something new. Why is it left up to these large gaming corporations to determine our fate as gamers? I myself am constantly writing in my little black book . I have all kinds of ideas different stories, game mechanics ideas, and foundation for a game. I constantly think of what made FFXI so great and how to create something like it in the future. I think that if we could all come together (not seeking our own riches) , truly wanting to recreate this amazing gaming experience for all to enjoy. WE CAN DO THIS!!!!! I have no problem forfeghting my ideas to the right ears. In all truth i would rather give my ideas up to the right person so that i can play the game without full knowledge of everything so that i can just play it myself. ......................
Does anyone understand where i am coming from here? I did overdo it a bit i know but really. There is nothing that compares to FFXI in its ways.
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Have you've tried its successor, Final Fantasy XIV?
Oh, and you represent everything that is wrong with MMOG gamers. You live a really sad existance if the most fun you have is playing a video game.
I didn't read your post, but to answer: because you like bad, yet fully developed games?
I hated about everything about ffxi.
I'm currently enjoying DC Universe though. It's probably the completely opposite though.
Like anything you do is more fun.
You know, at least I READ his message. You didn't, and I wasn't attacking you, I was attacking him...
I have forgotten most of my memories playing MMOGs, simply because they aren't that fun to me. You know what I remember the funnest time I had in a MMOG?
Pre-CU Star Wars Galaxies. Bloodfin server. The game was so young there were no Jedi yet. I was a reporter for the Galactic Civil War and I observed a battle between The Regulators (Imperials), and their village, Enott's Village (there were no official player cities yet), and the LOCH, with a rebel base due north of the village. I saw what happened and I reported it on the forums. The Regulators slaughtered the LOCH and the LOCH came back with new forces (both themselves and others), when the rules were that there was supposed to be NO outside forces. However, The Regulators did bring in other Imperials too, but the LOCH, a smaller group of people, just over-ran the village and completely took control over it while the Imperials were hiding in Enott's house for hours. The Imperials were pathetic.
My greatest real-life memory was watching the reunion of The Police in concert. Although I do not remember exactly everything they played that night at the Marcus Ampitheatre, I do know it was a few days after my 19th birthday and they played some of my favorites like "Invisible Sun" and "Every Breath You Take".
So, I might have a clearer memory of the night of the LOCH, but it took longer and it had more drama around it.
But if I had to choose one of those memories over the other, like, if I had to forget one while remember the other, I would choose The Police reunion concert everytime. I bonded with my family, I had a better time, and it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
You don't know anything about me so why are you so quick to judge? This guy just said he loves this game like he loves his own mother! I'm sorry, but that's just really, really sad.
While I did enjoy FFXI I do not want to play a game that is "like" FFXI or any other game for that matter.... >.>
My theme song.
Aside from the exaggeration I'm sure I get the point you're trying to get across. Firstly, it definitely seems like FFXI was your first MMO which would imply some level of rose-colored glasses on top of the already eaxaggerated post. I can agree with you, though, that MMORPGs that make grouping to level the most efficient route tend to have more of the moments you've described than those where soloing is the easiest/most efficient.
As an individual player there are only so many variables you'll experience in an engineered environment, but by adding in other people into the foreground (your group) rather than the background (disembodied text in chat channels or people just running around doing their own solo thing) it increases the experiences you can have by magnitudes. FFXI wasn't the only MMORPG to stress this, but it is one of a dying breed.
Most people just aren't willing to wade through the bureaucracy involved in just creating an account much less being able to play the game.
Same reason there's never been decent successors to DAOC, SWG, or UO, the EQ/WOW model of MMORPG design won out over all others and 9/10 MMO's today try to copy it.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
First the one reason you love the game so much was because it was either one of your first or first mmo. I have the same feeling about Lineage 2 my first. I can promise you that there were some really amazing times to be had back then. Another reason might be that not only was it your first it was for the people around you as well. That really creates a great community learning the ropes bit by bit. Nowadays it's much more rare to find truly new players for mmos. Oh their there but a different breed from what was before. People imprint on their first mmo. It's one reason I am drawn to different style of play than say a player that first cut his or her teeth on WoW. To them that was and is the ultimate experience. To me it was a good experience... but with little magic. It's not that either really is better it's very subjective and a very emotional topic.
Lol i said clearly that i know i over did it. That meaning just about every part of it was just meant to over exagerate my point of view. Which you clearly did not get. And what would be the problem with us gamers? You my friend.... not really my friend.... represent everything wrong with "forum posters"? .... And FFXIV does not give the same expereince and im not sure why. .................. I did not mean a game like FFXI in the sense that you are taking it. I meant a game like FFXI that draws me in the same way. I know there are those out there that know what im talking about with the addictive properties of FFXI.
Yea it was my first. I understand what you're saying and i think the biggest thing im concerned with is that there is nothing New coming out that is comparable to the originals that you mentioned. I am more concerned with the grouping style of FFXI myself and for me that is what i love most. I just think there needs to be something that is equally lovable "like" FFXI was. I guess i worded some stuff wrong. But my point is mainly that there isnt anything captivating like that for me anymore, and maybe its just me. I think there are others out there though. Even if it is another game they loved. Who knows.... It could just be as i get older i just don't get interested like i used to. Hopefully something will come out though. For all of us
Because it had teamwork, a good community and they made it fun to play. Today everything is soloable, dumbed down so it sells well and they are so anti-social, the mmo genre has took a complete 360 in a worse direction.
yea lol i can see now that it is definately emotional..... but im glad people are getting emotional i was curious if it was just me that felt this way. and i am starting to realize now that maybe everyone has their own "FFXI" in the sense.
FFXI was my first MMO, started when it came out, account got stolen in 2006. Then started hoping for another FF MMO. FFXIV turned out to be garbage. Now I'm waiting for TOR and GW2. Oh and I still remember my ID: MBCU5454.
Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1
Well lets say..... FFXI was just my GOD of all MMORPG.... It seems now like everyone has their own game..... Why then to prove my other point.... Why can't we all come together instead of bashing each other about why their game is bad and give each other our favorite parts about the games we loved..... Come together as MMORPGamers and try to find something better instead of a future that seams dominated by WoW and other big powerful companies. .... Seriously .............. What makes you want to play the game so much?...
Lol Nem yea me too..... been years and myne is: LBGQ0655
LOL, you dont remember much about previous MMO's becasue you don;t ahve fun playing them. Yet you take the time to bash people on a MMO site, nice.
YES!!!! finally DAwn someone who understands my pain!
If I didn't enjoy MMOs I wouldn't have spent over a year of my life getting Fs on my report cards and playing Star Wars Galaxies straight home from school until I had to go to school, getting no sleep and using my own anger just to stay up during classes. People used to think I was a serial killer because I always looked angry just to stay up. I also lost the one girl I wanted for years simply because I played too much pre-CU Star Wars Galaxies.
Again, you know absolutely nothing about me and yet you judge me. I actually read the OP's post and realize this guy has some serious fanatical issues with the game.
I used to be a master commando and master smuggler in early pre-CU Star Wars Galaxies. I had a level 50 character in City of Heroes. I had a level 57 character in vanilla WoW and a level 54 character in WotLK WoW.
I'm not sure which is sadder, how fanatical the OP is about a game or the fact he replies to his own posts.
There's nothing wrong with liking a game but... Geeez
Was FFXI your first MMO?
I really hope that *insert game name here* will be the first game to ever live up to all of its pre-release promises, maintain a manageable hype level and have a clean release. Just don't expect me to hold my breath.
Im actually replying to the people that took the time to read it and respond to what i had to say. I posted this to get responses and just to see if there were any other FFXI fans out there like me. I'm not sure whats more sad than you taking the time to feel the need to try and make me feel "Sad"...??? I think its more pathetic that you took the time to take interest in something so "Sad" enough that you felt the need to come up with an even lamer response to it.
Final Fantasy XI, the forgotten Success.
What does it say about the Western media when Square-Enix and their first MMO has always been excluded from every major poll or article in existence? I applaud Massively.com (and mmorpg.com for some part) for restarting making articles about XI alongside XIV. Even then it seems like S-E is the forgotten developer of the genre, for no good reason whatsoever.
For that reason alone I hoped XIV would make the media acknowledge the games instead of ignoring them (which did happen). Now more than that I hope XIV to be a spiritual successor to XI one day. Not XI-2, but built on the same foundation. A game to immerse those who ask for player interaction to be more important than interaction with the world. A game for those who are not satisfied with the developers remaking the same content over and over again, from expansion to another. A game for those who prefer the developers to experiment and create new experiences, instead of focusing on creating 'instances', 'raids' and 'battlegrounds' one after another. But unlike in XI, it should be done with the players involved (even though the devs have become pretty good at it during the years).
seriously, playonline was the most aggrivating system ever ,even though it appeared to be designed to be super user friendly. That and the fact that if you were gone for 3 months, they completely deleted you and you had to buy a brand new retail copy of the game.
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I ve played 2 games that will always be fond to me. FFXI, and DAOC. The reason I liked them, actually loved them, is they re different from most of the standard stuff out now. The memories I have from both of these games will never be forgotten. Back in the day, DAOC was a hard gam, leveling took a long time, but you always had a goal to reach that next level. The ride was fun. FFXI was very social, needed teamwork, and had an amazing story. Games nowadays, are mostly soloable, anti social, and they try to add some new awesome idea, that to me end up being a failure. PQs in WAR everyone raved about, and quickly people just ignored them, Rift, has their Rifts that to me became an absolute annoyance, after a few times.
The main thing nowadays, is games are so point A to point B that theres no real point on going off those paths. You can sure, but people are so into hitting max level, because the cool stuff is always there. Games need to slow down, need harsh death penalties, need excitment from level to level, not just a minor example of what will happen in end game, just a little harder.
Bottom line to me is those 2 games had it all, to make you want to group, want to feel a part of the community, now it s just race race race to end game, and talk about chuck norris or how WOW sucks , or is better in general chat all day. Games have become to simplified that they re just plain boring now. Innovation or not.
This is why I plat FFXI and DAOC atm, because they re really only a couple of the few games left worth while playing. Beleive it or not I m enjoying the hell out of both.