MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
Basically my thoughts about rift reflect the quality of it's slogan
"Were not in Azeroth anymore"
Bland, unimaginative, and appels to people who don't love Rift, they just hate WoW
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
AoC is trying to be realistic. Rift is somewhere between Warhammer and AoC. I'd say on par with Aion, but Aion follows the eastern school of character representation.
Edit: I loved my time in WoW. And I really liked the last few Rift betas. So where does that put me?
Why do people hate Rift? Are you afraid that your WOW server has looked a little emptier lately? I'm purchasing my Rift pre-order today and will reap tons of enjoyment with my NEW toy while you play " last years" expansions. Probably about the time I get bored with Rift, TOR will be out. Cheers
Why do people hate Rift? Are you afraid that your WOW server has looked a little emptier lately? I'm purchasing my Rift Pre-order today and will reap tons of enjoyment with my NEW toy while you play " last years" expansions. Probably about the time I get bored with Rift, TOR will be out. Cheers
I don't play WoW
And the fact you think it will hurt WoW is hilarious
In fact just refer to my last post, I'm sure i mentioned you in there some where
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
AoC is trying to be realistic. Rift is somewhere between Warhammer and AoC. I'd say on par with Aion, but Aion follows the eastern school of character representation.
Edit: I loved my time in WoW. And I really liked the last few Rift betas. So where does that put me?
It APPEALS to people who just hate WoW
Just like the people who kept saying "WoW stands for Waiting on Warhammer"
Yeah, i was part of that crowd. I dug up a youtube comment of me saying "Warhammer will destroy WoW"
And i see even less potential with Rift
Warhammer didn't die because it wasn't polished. It died because it was built on a broken premise called Tiers. The same with Rift. Once everyone hit max level, there won't be any low level Rift groups and new commers will drop the game while veterans slowly realize that it's WoW with a new graphics engine
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
How can this be the new standard when it's old same old. It has the same gameplay mechanics almost every other mmo has out there. There's nothing new here. So this new standard like you call is not new at all. For that I am pointing GW2 if you care to read about their new combat system and how they get rid of this old holy trinity. That alone makes this game a new standard( the game is almost new in every aspect like profession mechanics, dynamic events, pvp, underwater combat and so on...). People will get bored after a month or two and will go on looking for something fresh. Maybe like SWTOR which has great new mechanics as well and GW2 of course when it comes out. But Rift has no chance.
How can this be the new standard when it's old same old. It has the same gameplay mechanics almost every other mmo has out there. There's nothing new here. So this new standard like you call is not new at all. For that I am pointing GW2 if you care to read about their new combat system and how they get rid of this old holy trinity. That alone makes this game a new standard( the game is almost new in every aspect like profession mechanics, dynamic events, pvp, underwater combat and so on...). People will get bored after a month or two and will go on looking for something fresh. Maybe like SWTOR which has great new mechanics as well and GW2 of course when it comes out. But Rift has no chance.
I aggree
SWTOR and GW2 will take this decade by storm as far as MMOs go. As long as they deliver what they've promised
You either love great story (SWTOR)
Or great gameplay (GW2)
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
Rifts graphics are stylized as well and will last just as long. The game is basically a darker grittier Warhammer minus the playable Orcs. I don't see how anyone could place in the realistic pile.
Oh boy darker and grittier
I'm sure the call of duty fans will jump right on board
Rift graphics are not stylized
Of course they are. Sure they don't look like a Saturday morning cartoon like WoW & TOR but they certainly aren't as realistic as AoC.
I think like you i get lost when people talk about "stylized", someone say that stylized gfx are better and dont age, but i only see cartoony gfx or just low pol. and bad gfx, putting gnomes in WoW as example of stylized and EQ2 of not stylized ( both released on same time):
wow
eq2
If we are talking about art style i can understand it... but stylized i just dont get it.
Are they trying to do that according to some developer or you ?
..Well..If they tried to do that then they failed or you are wrong,,Sorry
It looks better than World of Warcraft or Warhammer but it's the same cartoony graphics both for characthers and outdoors..
The graphics in Rift for sure uses the same cartoony concept as these 2 games , but it's just more detailed..
Realistic or somewhat close should be Age of Conan and maybe EQ2..
Realistic stylization
That's uh... Interesting
Regarless. I can run Crysis on max with 30+ FPS, but i have trouble running Rift sometimes
So something is wrong here
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
AoC is trying to be realistic. Rift is somewhere between Warhammer and AoC. I'd say on par with Aion, but Aion follows the eastern school of character representation.
Edit: I loved my time in WoW. And I really liked the last few Rift betas. So where does that put me?
It APPEALS to people who just hate WoW
Just like the people who kept saying "WoW stands for Waiting on Warhammer"
Yeah, i was part of that crowd. I dug up a youtube comment of me saying "Warhammer will destroy WoW"
And i see even less potential with Rift
Warhammer didn't die because it wasn't polished. It died because it was built on a broken premise called Tiers. The same with Rift. Once everyone hit max level, there won't be any low level Rift groups and new commers will drop the game while veterans slowly realize that it's WoW with a new graphics engine
odd, I dont hate wow at all, purchased cata xpac. i just have no interest in playing it. started playing eq2 X and it held my interest enough to sub. I will be on the next rift beta. i have all ready tried the earthrise beta and know its not for me. i would really appreciate if you didnt try to catagorise my life according to your beliefs."It APPEALS to people who just hate WoW."
AoC is trying to be realistic. Rift is somewhere between Warhammer and AoC. I'd say on par with Aion, but Aion follows the eastern school of character representation.
Edit: I loved my time in WoW. And I really liked the last few Rift betas. So where does that put me?
It APPEALS to people who just hate WoW
Just like the people who kept saying "WoW stands for Waiting on Warhammer"
Yeah, i was part of that crowd. I dug up a youtube comment of me saying "Warhammer will destroy WoW"
And i see even less potential with Rift
Warhammer didn't die because it wasn't polished. It died because it was built on a broken premise called Tiers. The same with Rift. Once everyone hit max level, there won't be any low level Rift groups and new commers will drop the game while veterans slowly realize that it's WoW with a new graphics engine
odd, I dont hate wow at all, purchased cata xpac. i just have no interest in playing it. started playing eq2 X and it held my interest enough to sub. I will be on the next rift beta. i have all ready tried the earthrise beta and know its not for me. i would really appreciate if you didnt try to catagorise my life according to your beliefs."It APPEALS to people who just hate WoW."
I said it APPEALS to people who just hate WoW
Not only has people who just hate WoW
Just like Wal-Mart appeals to people with lower income doesn't mean only poor people shop there
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
the is isnt the new standard... it is just the flavour of the moment (and will be until around 2 months past it's launch imo until people start seeing how tedious it is when played for longer then a weekend or 2). GW2 will offer so much more, including personal character investment, mini games, good looking character models, and... *gasp* non cut'n'paste gameplay- Rift will do a lot of people for a little while though I think.
I could also tell you exactly why the Rift forum here is clear of negative posts, so it seems like you are saying, but it would get me told off
AoC is trying to be realistic. Rift is somewhere between Warhammer and AoC. I'd say on par with Aion, but Aion follows the eastern school of character representation.
Edit: I loved my time in WoW. And I really liked the last few Rift betas. So where does that put me?
IMO Rift isn't the "new" standard for gaming it's the same old one that's been around since 2004. Just read people's complaints about the game - "nothing new" and "bad optimization." Even those that like the game admit it's simply a refinement of the same old stuff we've seen since 2004. Nothing new (I've played all the betas and have to agree as much as I want to like the title) says that this game is not the new standard by a long shot.
On the other hand, it would be nice if it was the new standard as far as releasing a finished and highly polished product on launch day. I think that this is where Trion will actually achieve something we haven't seen in MMOs in years.
Hmm a lot of these posts seem absolutely ridiculous. People are stating that Rift is mainly liked by WoW-Haters? I played WoW for 4 years but quit for about a year and I'm interested in Rift, but still like/don't dislike WoW. It sounds like a lot of people hate Rift because it "copies" games, even though those games "copied" previous games. Stop saying games are copying WoW when WoW is a copy itself. Almost NOTHING original came from WoW lol.
A high profile mmo that is about to release without people waiting for that "miracle patch" on release day? Sounds like a good standard to me
Of course it could all crash and burn horribly on release date, but they seemed to handle the stress test which was last beta quite well after a few hiccups.
Hmm a lot of these posts seem absolutely ridiculous. People are stating that Rift is mainly liked by WoW-Haters? I played WoW for 4 years but quit for about a year and I'm interested in Rift, but still like/don't dislike WoW. It sounds like a lot of people hate Rift because it "copies" games, even though those games "copied" previous games. Stop saying games are copying WoW when WoW is a copy itself. Almost NOTHING original came from WoW lol.
This thread is for the OP and haters to just bash on Rift. That's all it is. Just don't reply or engage.
With as many people who got into Beta, lies and misinformation is no longer working. Most didn't get past level 20 and those that did are lying that they did. You can tell by the blaitant misinformation they spew about blandness, no exploration, all the Rifts are the same, tank and spank bosses, easy dungeons, etc. The list goes on. Word of mouth is more powerful, than anything on this board.
People just need to try out the game for themselves and figure out if this is something they will like to do. The game's got legs with a hell of a end game planned and in at launch. On top of that content updates will be coming monthly (who knows what qualifies as content.) I'm not worried about the game at all. People like this game a lot, but not everyone is going to like it.
There's no way of knowing how Rift will perform after launch, so this thread is pointless to begin with.
I don't know why you'd say it's the new standard, but a lot of people are just happy that there's a new MMORPG to play that is in a polished state for a change and that is fun to play to them.
Because that's the reason people play MMORPG's in the first place, because it's fun to them, and that doesn't mean that it has to be revolutionary innovative, what is fun differs from one person to another.
If you don't like Rift? *shrug* Don't play it.
If you like it and have fun? Don't worry about whether it's "special" or "the new standard", just play it.
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Every new game gets and overflow of good feeling about it and the opposite of course... When I see Rift I see a pretty good game. Yet when people go off and say it's the next coming and often smack talking the game one plays you get defensive. Which in turn get's those excited defensive. Best chance to make a reasoned opinion is stay away from forums... unless you just like to laugh.:P
When I see rift I see a game I would have been drooling over a year ago. Now? We'll have to see once all the mmos are released. I have to say that I'm still more excited about TOR, TERA, and GW2.. let alone some updates coming to games I've played for years. This isn't a real scale of quality though. It's subjective and could change as they add updates. So here's to another choice on the market!
Because the soul system has done what other games have tried to do for years and failed in terms of raiding.
Rift allows you to bring the player, not the class.
well, how don't you guys see how things will become? There will be, like in every other game, 2 main builds that 90% of population will resolve arouncd because they will simply be the best. There is no character customisation, unless you want yourself to be gimped by your choices. Every new game tried something like that and every single one of them ended up with players using 2 or 3 specs.
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Aren't you confusing cartoony with stylised?
Cartoon is a type of stylization
Rift is trying to be more realistic
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
Basically my thoughts about rift reflect the quality of it's slogan
"Were not in Azeroth anymore"
Bland, unimaginative, and appels to people who don't love Rift, they just hate WoW
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
AoC is trying to be realistic. Rift is somewhere between Warhammer and AoC. I'd say on par with Aion, but Aion follows the eastern school of character representation.
Edit: I loved my time in WoW. And I really liked the last few Rift betas. So where does that put me?
Why do people hate Rift? Are you afraid that your WOW server has looked a little emptier lately? I'm purchasing my Rift pre-order today and will reap tons of enjoyment with my NEW toy while you play " last years" expansions. Probably about the time I get bored with Rift, TOR will be out. Cheers
I don't play WoW
And the fact you think it will hurt WoW is hilarious
In fact just refer to my last post, I'm sure i mentioned you in there some where
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
It APPEALS to people who just hate WoW
Just like the people who kept saying "WoW stands for Waiting on Warhammer"
Yeah, i was part of that crowd. I dug up a youtube comment of me saying "Warhammer will destroy WoW"
And i see even less potential with Rift
Warhammer didn't die because it wasn't polished. It died because it was built on a broken premise called Tiers. The same with Rift. Once everyone hit max level, there won't be any low level Rift groups and new commers will drop the game while veterans slowly realize that it's WoW with a new graphics engine
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
How can this be the new standard when it's old same old. It has the same gameplay mechanics almost every other mmo has out there. There's nothing new here. So this new standard like you call is not new at all. For that I am pointing GW2 if you care to read about their new combat system and how they get rid of this old holy trinity. That alone makes this game a new standard( the game is almost new in every aspect like profession mechanics, dynamic events, pvp, underwater combat and so on...). People will get bored after a month or two and will go on looking for something fresh. Maybe like SWTOR which has great new mechanics as well and GW2 of course when it comes out. But Rift has no chance.
I aggree
SWTOR and GW2 will take this decade by storm as far as MMOs go. As long as they deliver what they've promised
You either love great story (SWTOR)
Or great gameplay (GW2)
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
Are they trying to do that according to some developer or you ?
..Well..If they tried to do that then they failed or you are wrong,,Sorry
It looks better than World of Warcraft or Warhammer but it's the same cartoony graphics both for characthers and outdoors..
The graphics in Rift for sure uses the same cartoony concept as these 2 games , but it's just more detailed..
Realistic or somewhat close should be Age of Conan and maybe EQ2..
Oh boy darker and grittier
I'm sure the call of duty fans will jump right on board
Rift graphics are not stylized
Of course they are. Sure they don't look like a Saturday morning cartoon like WoW & TOR but they certainly aren't as realistic as AoC.Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
I think like you i get lost when people talk about "stylized", someone say that stylized gfx are better and dont age, but i only see cartoony gfx or just low pol. and bad gfx, putting gnomes in WoW as example of stylized and EQ2 of not stylized ( both released on same time):
wow
eq2
If we are talking about art style i can understand it... but stylized i just dont get it.
Realistic stylization
That's uh... Interesting
Regarless. I can run Crysis on max with 30+ FPS, but i have trouble running Rift sometimes
So something is wrong here
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
odd, I dont hate wow at all, purchased cata xpac. i just have no interest in playing it. started playing eq2 X and it held my interest enough to sub. I will be on the next rift beta. i have all ready tried the earthrise beta and know its not for me. i would really appreciate if you didnt try to catagorise my life according to your beliefs."It APPEALS to people who just hate WoW."
Because it has easymode meaningless PVP, which is what the masses are looking for, apparently.
I said it APPEALS to people who just hate WoW
Not only has people who just hate WoW
Just like Wal-Mart appeals to people with lower income doesn't mean only poor people shop there
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
well, it works.
apart from that, nothing.
the is isnt the new standard... it is just the flavour of the moment (and will be until around 2 months past it's launch imo until people start seeing how tedious it is when played for longer then a weekend or 2). GW2 will offer so much more, including personal character investment, mini games, good looking character models, and... *gasp* non cut'n'paste gameplay- Rift will do a lot of people for a little while though I think.
I could also tell you exactly why the Rift forum here is clear of negative posts, so it seems like you are saying, but it would get me told off
Ironic really.
IMO Rift isn't the "new" standard for gaming it's the same old one that's been around since 2004. Just read people's complaints about the game - "nothing new" and "bad optimization." Even those that like the game admit it's simply a refinement of the same old stuff we've seen since 2004. Nothing new (I've played all the betas and have to agree as much as I want to like the title) says that this game is not the new standard by a long shot.
On the other hand, it would be nice if it was the new standard as far as releasing a finished and highly polished product on launch day. I think that this is where Trion will actually achieve something we haven't seen in MMOs in years.
Steam: Neph
Hmm a lot of these posts seem absolutely ridiculous. People are stating that Rift is mainly liked by WoW-Haters? I played WoW for 4 years but quit for about a year and I'm interested in Rift, but still like/don't dislike WoW. It sounds like a lot of people hate Rift because it "copies" games, even though those games "copied" previous games. Stop saying games are copying WoW when WoW is a copy itself. Almost NOTHING original came from WoW lol.
A high profile mmo that is about to release without people waiting for that "miracle patch" on release day? Sounds like a good standard to me
Of course it could all crash and burn horribly on release date, but they seemed to handle the stress test which was last beta quite well after a few hiccups.
This thread is for the OP and haters to just bash on Rift. That's all it is. Just don't reply or engage.
With as many people who got into Beta, lies and misinformation is no longer working. Most didn't get past level 20 and those that did are lying that they did. You can tell by the blaitant misinformation they spew about blandness, no exploration, all the Rifts are the same, tank and spank bosses, easy dungeons, etc. The list goes on. Word of mouth is more powerful, than anything on this board.
People just need to try out the game for themselves and figure out if this is something they will like to do. The game's got legs with a hell of a end game planned and in at launch. On top of that content updates will be coming monthly (who knows what qualifies as content.) I'm not worried about the game at all. People like this game a lot, but not everyone is going to like it.
There's no way of knowing how Rift will perform after launch, so this thread is pointless to begin with.
I don't know why you'd say it's the new standard, but a lot of people are just happy that there's a new MMORPG to play that is in a polished state for a change and that is fun to play to them.
Because that's the reason people play MMORPG's in the first place, because it's fun to them, and that doesn't mean that it has to be revolutionary innovative, what is fun differs from one person to another.
If you don't like Rift? *shrug* Don't play it.
If you like it and have fun? Don't worry about whether it's "special" or "the new standard", just play it.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Every new game gets and overflow of good feeling about it and the opposite of course... When I see Rift I see a pretty good game. Yet when people go off and say it's the next coming and often smack talking the game one plays you get defensive. Which in turn get's those excited defensive. Best chance to make a reasoned opinion is stay away from forums... unless you just like to laugh.:P
When I see rift I see a game I would have been drooling over a year ago. Now? We'll have to see once all the mmos are released. I have to say that I'm still more excited about TOR, TERA, and GW2.. let alone some updates coming to games I've played for years. This isn't a real scale of quality though. It's subjective and could change as they add updates. So here's to another choice on the market!
well, how don't you guys see how things will become? There will be, like in every other game, 2 main builds that 90% of population will resolve arouncd because they will simply be the best. There is no character customisation, unless you want yourself to be gimped by your choices. Every new game tried something like that and every single one of them ended up with players using 2 or 3 specs.