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Old pk and the new gank :D

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  • grunt187grunt187 Member CommonPosts: 956

    Originally posted by Saiborg

     






    Originally posted by Jakeadunk

    A true PvP person would fight people slightly above their level to really prove they have skill when it comes to ganking. Those videos show nothing but why people dislike PvP because mostly people brag about how good they are from ganking low level peeps. Have some real balls and show us you ganking higher level toons.




    My job was to create havoc ,i dont shake hands and say hello ,before i fight and i dont search for same level targets.What i am after, is just to hunt guardians ,and i do it well.

    Hehe i want to roll your server on head start.image

     

     

    p.s Guardian of course. image

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  • SaiborgSaiborg Member Posts: 40

    Originally posted by grunt187

    Originally posted by Saiborg

     






    Originally posted by Jakeadunk

    A true PvP person would fight people slightly above their level to really prove they have skill when it comes to ganking. Those videos show nothing but why people dislike PvP because mostly people brag about how good they are from ganking low level peeps. Have some real balls and show us you ganking higher level toons.





    My job was to create havoc ,i dont shake hands and say hello ,before i fight and i dont search for same level targets.What i am after, is just to hunt guardians ,and i do it well.

    Hehe i want to roll your server on head start.image

     

     

    p.s Guardian of course.

     

     

    Of course ,i will be on most crowded EU english pvp server ,were the big dogs join.We will see ,give me a message with your name if you will be guardian and you will join EU pvp server.

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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by Saiborg

     






    Originally posted by Jakeadunk

    A true PvP person would fight people slightly above their level to really prove they have skill when it comes to ganking. Those videos show nothing but why people dislike PvP because mostly people brag about how good they are from ganking low level peeps. Have some real balls and show us you ganking higher level toons.




    My job was to create havoc ,i dont shake hands and say hello ,before i fight and i dont search for same level targets.What i am after, is just to hunt guardians ,and i do it well.

    Unfortunately, in a game where death, especially during PvP, is meaningless, you're not preventing the other faction from acomplishing some objectives and helping your side at the same time. You're just griefing a few newbs without any serious consequences to you or them.

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  • Mad+DogMad+Dog Member UncommonPosts: 785

    What lvl are the people youy are ganking?

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  • SaiborgSaiborg Member Posts: 40

     






    Originally posted by heartless





    Originally posted by Saiborg



     









    Originally posted by Jakeadunk

    A true PvP person would fight people slightly above their level to really prove they have skill when it comes to ganking. Those videos show nothing but why people dislike PvP because mostly people brag about how good they are from ganking low level peeps. Have some real balls and show us you ganking higher level toons.









    My job was to create havoc ,i dont shake hands and say hello ,before i fight and i dont search for same level targets.What i am after, is just to hunt guardians ,and i do it well.





    Unfortunately, in a game where death, especially during PvP, is meaningless, you're not preventing the other faction from acomplishing some objectives and helping your side at the same time. You're just griefing a few newbs without any serious consequences to you or them.



     



    After all i got from 90% of my kills exp and valor + maybe some worthless items.Dis is what the game rewards and of course i enjoy allot pk or ganking in open world pvp.Griefing is another thing but i get bored very fast.You dont have my respect ,you even dont know what griefing is about.

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  • CannyoneCannyone Member UncommonPosts: 267

    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Sorry but anyone calling what RIFT has to offer PVP wise "exciting" really needs to go play a real PVP game like Darkfall with FPS combat AND full loot.  I just can't derive fun from generic-no-reward-press 1 - 0 to-active-skills type games anymore.

     

    That was boring to watch, and I have no interest in such game-play anymore.  Not saying what I enjoy is for everyone... but for anyone to call themselves a PK / PVP and to think games like RIFT is where the true fun / skill is at is pathetic at best.

    I have to agree!  Most MMORPGs use a combat model that depends on a Random Number Generator to determine Hits and Crits.  And such system never require the same level of skill as FPS type combat.  So if the OP really wants to brag about his PvP prowess he shouldn't be doing so because he ganked someone already engaged in combat, like is shown in those videos.  Seems like the OP is just an immature kid with some serious social issues... Then again he most likely couldn't cut it in a game that required any real skill.

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by Saiborg

     






    Originally posted by heartless






    Originally posted by Saiborg



     










    Originally posted by Jakeadunk

    A true PvP person would fight people slightly above their level to really prove they have skill when it comes to ganking. Those videos show nothing but why people dislike PvP because mostly people brag about how good they are from ganking low level peeps. Have some real balls and show us you ganking higher level toons.










    My job was to create havoc ,i dont shake hands and say hello ,before i fight and i dont search for same level targets.What i am after, is just to hunt guardians ,and i do it well.






    Unfortunately, in a game where death, especially during PvP, is meaningless, you're not preventing the other faction from acomplishing some objectives and helping your side at the same time. You're just griefing a few newbs without any serious consequences to you or them.




     



    After all i got from 90% of my kills exp and valor + maybe some worthless items.Dis is what the game rewards and of course i enjoy allot pk or ganking in open world pvp.Griefing is another thing but i get bored very fast.You dont have my respect ,you even dont know what griefing is about.

    My dude, I was a red PK on Atlantic server in Ultima Online. I'm pretty sure I know what griefing is all about. I think that you're the one who's confused about what griefing is.

    Now granted, I stopped watching your first video after about a minute but all I saw you doing is killing lower level players who are fighting mobs.

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  • SaiborgSaiborg Member Posts: 40

    Cry more about skill and level ,the ganks are what they shuld be.Pk is what im doing and of course allot people will cry about it.Who wait for someone to finish a fight ,lol what a nub.As for me being a kid ,you shuld not be so though behind a keyboard because i can assure you in real life you will be so low level and weak ,trsut me.Grow up and stop the cry for the weak ,they deserve to die by my hand.

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  • Mad+DogMad+Dog Member UncommonPosts: 785

    Originally posted by Saiborg

    Cry more about skill and level ,the ganks are what they shuld be.Pk is what im doing and of course allot people will cry about it.Who wait for someone to finish a fight ,lol what a nub.As for me being a kid ,you shuld not be so though behind a keyboard because i can assure you in real life you will be so low level and weak ,trsut me.Grow up and stop the cry for the weak ,they deserve to die by my hand.

    This made me lol, defo a kid.

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  • AldersAlders Member RarePosts: 2,207

    Originally posted by Mad+Dog

    Originally posted by Saiborg

    Cry more about skill and level ,the ganks are what they shuld be.Pk is what im doing and of course allot people will cry about it.Who wait for someone to finish a fight ,lol what a nub.As for me being a kid ,you shuld not be so though behind a keyboard because i can assure you in real life you will be so low level and weak ,trsut me.Grow up and stop the cry for the weak ,they deserve to die by my hand.

    This made me lol, defo a kid.

    It's the typical mindset of someone who knows he has zero chance of losing. Reminds me of decked out level 35 twinks in Aion.

    I absolutely love pvp but i see no fun in knowing the person i'm about to gank has no chance of winning.

  • SaiborgSaiborg Member Posts: 40



    Originally posted by Alders


    Originally posted by Mad+Dog


    Originally posted by Saiborg

    Cry more about skill and level ,the ganks are what they shuld be.Pk is what im doing and of course allot people will cry about it.Who wait for someone to finish a fight ,lol what a nub.As for me being a kid ,you shuld not be so though behind a keyboard because i can assure you in real life you will be so low level and weak ,trsut me.Grow up and stop the cry for the weak ,they deserve to die by my hand.

    This made me lol, defo a kid.

    It's the typical mindset of someone who knows he has zero chance of losing. Reminds me of decked out level 35 twinks in Aion.
    I absolutely love pvp but i see no fun in knowing the person i'm about to gank has no chance of winning.


    I can get you all ,in one setting ,and im ok.Of course all the pray got a chance to kill me but its a weak one.I enjoy to make pk and ganks and i enjoy put them ,for all to see.I will hunt more and more ,just to laugh.

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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by Saiborg

    Cry more about skill and level ,the ganks are what they shuld be.Pk is what im doing and of course allot people will cry about it.Who wait for someone to finish a fight ,lol what a nub.As for me being a kid ,you shuld not be so though behind a keyboard because i can assure you in real life you will be so low level and weak ,trsut me.Grow up and stop the cry for the weak ,they deserve to die by my hand.

    I'm not crying, I'm laughing.

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  • A.BlacklochA.Blackloch Member UncommonPosts: 842

    Originally posted by marzatplay

    All I watched was a bored coward ganking lowbies using OP techniques. Sorry, the video was boring, and your tactics were lame. You never tried to PvP skill vs skill. You took advantage of the flaws in the RIFT PvP system and exploited them. GG.

    To me it looked like a rogue working in his element. And when you'r in the mood for hunting guardians, you don't "search" people around your level, you don't think "hmmm, is this ethical killing this lvl 24 cleric when I'm 27?".

    And what are OP techniques? Stealth and backstab? I guess he should just charge the opponents face to face, maybe even send a /PM "Hey Turd! I'm coming out of stealth and killing you. Prepare!". And of course that wouldn't be idiotic - it would be fair. Attacking enemy while he's fighting mobs? Well of course you can't do that. That's just rude and blah blah blaa.

    As long as there's people playing rogues - there's people who are getting owned by them. Only thing they can do is to whine how "He had no true skillz." to themselves while walking back to their corpse.

    There is one thing in Rift's rogues though. Getting kills as a rogue is just way too easy since you can slash melee or shoot and run. There's literally no escape from a rogue's wrath.

     

    Edit: OP why did you cut the part where you were fighting against the "u are so fcking bad"-Sylar in clip 2? I'm guessing that fight didn't end in your favor? :D

  • CannyoneCannyone Member UncommonPosts: 267

    Originally posted by Saiborg

    Cry more about skill and level ,the ganks are what they shuld be.Pk is what im doing and of course allot people will cry about it.Who wait for someone to finish a fight ,lol what a nub.As for me being a kid ,you shuld not be so though behind a keyboard because i can assure you in real life you will be so low level and weak ,trsut me.Grow up and stop the cry for the weak ,they deserve to die by my hand.

    You come find ME and you'll discover that I'm NOT a kid who just thinks he's tough behind a keyboard.  =P

  • SaiborgSaiborg Member Posts: 40

    Originally posted by Mortemia

    Originally posted by marzatplay

    All I watched was a bored coward ganking lowbies using OP techniques. Sorry, the video was boring, and your tactics were lame. You never tried to PvP skill vs skill. You took advantage of the flaws in the RIFT PvP system and exploited them. GG.

    To me it looked like a rogue working in his element. And when you'r in the mood for hunting guardians, you don't "search" people around your level, you don't think "hmmm, is this ethical killing this lvl 24 cleric when I'm 27?".

    And what are OP techniques? Stealth and backstab? I guess he should just charge the opponents face to face, maybe even send a /PM "Hey Turd! I'm coming out of stealth and killing you. Prepare!". And of course that wouldn't be idiotic - it would be fair. Attacking enemy while he's fighting mobs? Well of course you can't do that. That's just rude and blah blah blaa.

    As long as there's people playing rogues - there's people who are getting owned by them. Only thing they can do is to whine how "He had no true skillz." to themselves while walking back to their corpse.

    There is one thing in Rift's rogues though. Getting kills as a rogue is just way too easy since you can slash melee or shoot and run. There's literally no escape from a rogue's wrath.

     

    Edit: OP why did you cut the part where you were fighting against the "u are so fcking bad"-Sylar in clip 2? I'm guessing that fight didn't end in your favor? :D

     

     

    Much truth in what yu say but ou must realize 90% of all players fear to be killed in open world and hate to be camp.In fat i dont like to camp so much because is boring ,but at least i wont say no for a persisten one buahahah.

    I have a real good time while im pk or kill others ,i dont mind that some are hate my kind ,it is a normal reaction.

     

    PS: Yeah i lost that fight ,i msitake allot in the fight and i end it like that lol.The problem was the fraps cut it and i dont put all togeter all the files to complete it.IM not ashame of losing and i dont run if i ose usually.

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  • mo0rbidmo0rbid Member Posts: 363


    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Originally posted by Totec

    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Sorry but anyone calling what RIFT has to offer PVP wise "exciting" really needs to go play a real PVP game like Darkfall with FPS combat AND full loot.  I just can't derive fun from generic-no-reward-press 1 - 0 to-active-skills type games anymore.
     
    That was boring to watch, and I have no interest in such game-play anymore.  Not saying what I enjoy is for everyone... but for anyone to call themselves a PK / PVP and to think games like RIFT is where the true fun / skill is at is pathetic at best.
    Darkfall's PvP system isn't fun.... It's downright stressful... I got so paranoid and fearful in that game that it reminded be of hardcore duels on D2... I don't like high levels of stress in my games... That's not fun for me, that amount of stress is just uncomfortable.
    If you like the PvP of Darkfall that's great, but you can't say that Rift PvP sucks based on a game like Darkfall... They are two completely different games... the low death penalty of Rift and the severe death penalty of Darkfall are like apples and Oranges for PvP.


    That's what makes Darkfall so much more fun to me, the fact your heart is racing and that there is an actual and purposeful reward for killing someone other than to just to kill for the sake of it.  People really need to stop getting attached to their pixels so much.
     
    I wish more people would give games like Darkfall a chance, more so if they like PVP and want a game where every kill is rewarded just as every death you lose out.


    Darkfall has amazing pvp, adrenaline rushing like crazy

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  • mo0rbidmo0rbid Member Posts: 363


    Originally posted by marzatplay
    All I watched was a bored coward ganking lowbies using OP techniques. Sorry, the video was boring, and your tactics were lame. You never tried to PvP skill vs skill. You took advantage of the flaws in the RIFT PvP system and exploited them. GG.

    I watched a rogue on a pvp server being a rogue


    Originally posted by Saiborg
     After all i got from 90% of my kills exp and valor + maybe some worthless items.Dis is what the game rewards and of course i enjoy allot pk or ganking in open world pvp.Griefing is another thing but i get bored very fast.You dont have my respect ,you even dont know what griefing is about.

    Are you implying the opening poster was griefing?

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  • SaiborgSaiborg Member Posts: 40



    Originally posted by mo0rbid
     



    Originally posted by marzatplay
    All I watched was a bored coward ganking lowbies using OP techniques. Sorry, the video was boring, and your tactics were lame. You never tried to PvP skill vs skill. You took advantage of the flaws in the RIFT PvP system and exploited them. GG.


     
    I watched a rogue on a pvp server being a rogue
     


    Originally posted by Saiborg
     After all i got from 90% of my kills exp and valor + maybe some worthless items.Dis is what the game rewards and of course i enjoy allot pk or ganking in open world pvp.Griefing is another thing but i get bored very fast.You dont have my respect ,you even dont know what griefing is about.


    Are you implying the opening poster was griefing?

    I dont imply anything ,and i dont see any grief in my movies.Icant say i dont do it ,but again ,grief is boring and i usually avoid it.

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  • TorgrimTorgrim Member CommonPosts: 2,088

    These rouge backstabb "pvp"  is so boring to watch.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • xcarnifexxcarnifex Member UncommonPosts: 36

    PVP in Rift is basically a joke.  And open world PVP just shows how crazy it is to allow free for all killing.  You can barely hurt someone when they are 3 levels above you, and you practically can't touch them if they are 4 levels above you.

     

    So of what I watched in these videos, every person he killed didn't stand a chance because they were all 5+ levels below him.  If he had attacked someone 5+ levels above himself, you'd see him missing an incredible amount while taking critical hits on every third hit.

     

    Ganking is not PVP, PVP implies the other side stands a 50% chance of winning if the players are equally as good as their classes.  It really doesn't matter whose playing the other guy when he can't hit you.

    So I'll classify this video as a gank video since all the parts I skipped to were him killing people who couldn't fight back, and it's a major thumbs down to Rift PVP.  Plus their queue system doesn't match teams evenly at all in warfronts, which kills the other portion of their PVP system.  It's a shame these systems are considered the "PVP" standard, it draws so many griefers and gankers you might as well give up on trying to actually find a fair fight in those kind of systems.....they'll call their buddies over to gang bang you or log in a higher level guy to camp you ala WoW.

  • SeffrenSeffren Member Posts: 743

    Originally posted by xcarnifex

    PVP in Rift is basically a joke.  And open world PVP just shows how crazy it is to allow free for all killing.  You can barely hurt someone when they are 3 levels above you, and you practically can't touch them if they are 4 levels above you.

     

     

    Wrong!

  • A.BlacklochA.Blackloch Member UncommonPosts: 842

    The problem is that people roll into PvP severs, thinking PvP means the fighting is honourable and you can always pick your fights. No, it's not.

    Of course you use the element of surprise. Of course you every dirty trick your class has. And the funniest part is this: everytime you get a kill, well that's a kill. Everytime you get killed, that's a gank with no skill included.

    People play such "victims".

  • avalon1000avalon1000 Member UncommonPosts: 791

    PvP is rarely honourable at all.  It's mostly players that get their jollies beating up on someone.  It's very rarely fair and mostly a mess.  I am very glad Rift has PvE servers. 

  • SeffrenSeffren Member Posts: 743

    Originally posted by avalon1000

    PvP is rarely honourable at all.  It's mostly players that get their jollies beating up on someone.  It's very rarely fair and mostly a mess.  I am very glad Rift has PvE servers. 

    We are happy to they have pve servers.

  • Jimmy562Jimmy562 Member UncommonPosts: 1,158

    Originally posted by Cannyone

    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Sorry but anyone calling what RIFT has to offer PVP wise "exciting" really needs to go play a real PVP game like Darkfall with FPS combat AND full loot.  I just can't derive fun from generic-no-reward-press 1 - 0 to-active-skills type games anymore.

     

    That was boring to watch, and I have no interest in such game-play anymore.  Not saying what I enjoy is for everyone... but for anyone to call themselves a PK / PVP and to think games like RIFT is where the true fun / skill is at is pathetic at best.

    I have to agree!  Most MMORPGs use a combat model that depends on a Random Number Generator to determine Hits and Crits.  And such system never require the same level of skill as FPS type combat.  So if the OP really wants to brag about his PvP prowess he shouldn't be doing so because he ganked someone already engaged in combat, like is shown in those videos.  Seems like the OP is just an immature kid with some serious social issues... Then again he most likely couldn't cut it in a game that required any real skill.

    They require different types of skill. There isn't more skill in FPS combat compared to the traditional MMO, its just a different type.

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