I do not see anyone that posted here saying the game is horrible or bad and that others should not play it. Many of us said it is a decent game. It's just not for us. We've been there before and done it. Rift really doesn't bring any real new game play to the table from wht I can tell. You do quest. You level up. Then all you do is PvP in instances(their latest build killed world PvP). Or you do end game raids for - gear? After that?
My new issues with the game.
Didn't like the new difficult monsters. Just made combat more of a grind to me. If I were them I would take combat back to beta 5. At least it was somewhat fun. Allow us to turn the stupid bouncing arrow thingy off, that hovers above our targets. That is so stupid.
Other than that...it's a good game, for those that like this type of MMORPG. I hope it does well. ^_^
can none of you "its just you" people understand that some of us MMO veterans simply want something different doesnt matter if its one game or another with different graphics. its new and that is refreshing.
A good game is not a game that comes out and changes everything, a good game is a game that takes past mistakes and failures and improves upon them and also capitalizes on those older generations successes as well.
Im an Eq1 vet and have played most all fantasy mmos to date for varing periods of time. From the moment i logged into Rift and started making my 500 different characters to try all the souls i was met with a huge sense of nostalga and that my friends is why Rift will do well for those of us who want a new game doesnt matter if its the same.
That 's one of the main problems i see with Rift.Having so many skills and diferrent character combinations is going to be impossible for them to balance out in PvE and PvP.I see mass class fixes every 2-3 weeks coming out after release.It's up to you if you can keep up with those constant changes.
can none of you "its just you" people understand that some of us MMO veterans simply want something different doesnt matter if its one game or another with different graphics. its new and that is refreshing.
What exactly is new about Rift outside of the Rifts that spawn 6 mobs in each phase, something any MMO could have come up with?
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I'm sorry did any other MMO come up with it?
The mobs spawning in place? Yes, lots of raids in EQ and WoW are like that. What makes a Rift any different, that it has tentacles? When you do your 100th rift you'll understand that it's just the same as grinding 6 mobs.
So just how long have you been playing RIft? You make it sound like you have been playing every day for the past 6 months. Or is this all just guess work on your part? Cause from the statement of the mobs spawning in place is sure looks that way.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
The wife likes it and the soul sytstem and the rifts are amusing enough to give the game a look. Saying the game is the same as all the others does not hold much water as slapping different skins on the same story still works in other forms of entertainment.
I honestly saw nothing about Rift that I didn't see done better in WoW outside of the Rifts and the multiclassing, and those two features alone aren't enough to hold me in a game for any length of time.
Honestly for me it is not that it is done better than WoW it is i just got sick of the WoW community and so far this one is better and I should be able to get a few months out of this until the casualties of puberty infest it to the point of being unavoidable.
I played all afternoon non stop and I have to say Rift is simply the best game I've ever played, I took part in 2 invasions and 6 rifts, it never got boring for me. I am currently a level 14 Warlock/Chloromancer/Necromancer and I have to say the soul system is simply the best talent system I've seen to date. Besides all of the rifts and mechanics I have to say it just has the style of play I dreamed of. It has the combat of WAR (my favorite PvP game) and the leveling and questing of WoW (my favorite PvE game) combined! It is like a dream come true for me.
Some people say rifts are too plentiful and annoying, but they are completely avoidable and enjoyable. If a rift does happen to spawn on your questing zone, it takes no longer than 10 minutes to close it. You get great rewards and great fun for completing it. Besides all that they have an additional system where the rewards you get from rifts you can spend to buy really good gear and/or great buff items. Its a win-win in terms of fun and items.
Invasions are a whole different ball game in terms of fun. It is hectic, it is mean, it is nasty, but it is the funnest bit of Elite killing I've ever had. Hundreds of players come to said "invasions" to defend the town from the monsters that seek to destroy it. Let me tell you, 100 people is about the right ammount to do the job invasions are no joke. I took on a super invasion where there were hundreds of elites swarming the town. It took a whole half hour to hour to finish the invasion (With hundreds of other people!). It wasn't all a waste either, I got a charm that gave me a great deal of stats, alot of the currency used to buy the good gear I mentioned in the rift paragraph, and other buffs and things also. It just feels so rewarding to win an invasion.
@all the people complaining about the community: Trust me on this one, type /leave 4. Just do it. Don't ask why. Do it. I did that early on when i realized the leveling chat was full of QQers and haters. Now that channel 4 is out of the way your community experience is now 10x better. The general chat (the good chat) was full of people talking about pros and cons of their classes, talking about quests, asking for help with rifts, and helping others. It was generally what you'd expect from a good gaming community. Albeit I did meet some assholes along the way (very few) that is something to be expected.
Conclusion: Rift might not be a revolution in MMO's but it sure as hell is a worth-while experience and is definately something for any Warhammer/WoW enthusiasts and everybody else interested in the fantasy MMO genre. I would highly recommend this game to anyone looking for something new, or for anyone who feels WoW just isn't enough anymore. I applaud you Trion Worlds for putting the time and effort in this game, and I thank all those non-haters who are helping this game along during the BETA phase.
P.S. The graphics are great!
I have tested every beta phase apart from the one on now and the reason for that is I have withdrawn myself from the beta and unistalled the game from my machine. I have also requested that they stop sending me beta invite as I am not prepaired to give anymore of my time. I told them if they pay me I will continue to test it but would not be telling anyone to buy or play the game as it very easy and boring to play. Sadly they sent another beta invite for the current phase but I have just deleted the email and unsubscribed from the totally as they did not listen to my concerns.
Initally their customer service was pretty good and they even tried to get me to carry on posting feed-back and giving them the reports I did in the last beta phases, but they have made very few changes and the game you see now will be the game that goes live and imo it's a very weak MMO. Once you have been involved with the rifts and invasions as few times the novelty will wear off and you will see the true game.
Come back after another 4 beta phases and then lets see what you feel and if it's graphics which make you like this game then you need help!! I doubt you will be as excited once you have been involved for some time, however if you are then great for you but I bet you are quite new to the MMO gaming industry and maybe just come straight from Wow too and this is the problem with the game, people who have played Wow will feel at home here as it's just as easy but they graphics are better, the game play is not ground breaking, infact I doubt we will ever see any ground breaking game play from anyone in the future because it's pretty much all been covered. Crafting, well not sure if you can call it that as it's the same as Wow too just poor.
So would I pay to play this game, no. I would rather throw my money out my window, will I tell others to play or waste time in this game, no. You would be better off buying a decent board game and/or go back to having a real life.
I would not be suprised if this game only lasts about 12 months or so and once the hype has died down, I bet many subs cancel within three months or so and we see a major decline in the community playing. When SWTOR goes live or if another MMO comes along people will move to that and leave this game as I feel this will be something new for a short time as people are looking for a new fix and that's all this is.
I'm sure lots of people will not agree with what I have written, but 3 to 6 months down the line I bet if we ask them again they will. Good luck to anyone who uses this as their home in MMO'ing as I know some will really enjoy the game because they do not have high expectations, I do as I have tested most and played many and this is very, very poor game and I would rather play EQI.
Honestly for me it is not that it is done better than WoW it is i just got sick of the WoW community and so far this one is better and I should be able to get a few months out of this until the casualties of puberty infest it to the point of being unavoidable.
What is it about the WoW community that makes it "so" bad that it's unbearable to even play the game?
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Originally posted by SuperXero89
Threads like this puzzle the daylights out of me.
I honestly saw nothing about Rift that I didn't see done better in WoW outside of the Rifts and the multiclassing, and those two features alone aren't enough to hold me in a game for any length of time.
There was a recent official post made on the official forums encouraging people to go post how good Rift is everywhere they can think of.
There was a recent official post made on the official forums encouraging people to go post how good Rift is everywhere they can think of.
That just about says it all imo, they know they have a weak game and are trying to encourage people to be dishonest about a very poor game and if I was not aware as a gamer of this and read people opinions about how good the game is like the OP has done here then imo these people need taking out side and be spoken too.
I hope for your sake OP this is not your intension because that sucks imo and I had my doubts about you when you starting bleating on about how amzing the graphics are...
I will be advising people to steer well away from this and save their money as per my post above, I even got blasted by my guild for being blunt about the game, but I am not here to tell people what to do with their money, people are adult enough to make up their own minds and that's cool as long as people get the correct information they can make that call.
im surprise SWTOR is coming out this year before GW2?? thought they only just started develop 2 years ago??
SWTOR was announced in 2008 i beleive, and even then Bio Ware said it was a year and a half in developement already.. So thats 3-4 years of developement, and we all know the kind of money that is being throwed at SWTOR so they have the best of the best working with them to develope it as quickly as possible.. But yeah, its release date is still HIGHLY debateable..
It was slated for a spring release, but Bio Ware has said that won't happen.. In a financial meeting for EA they told a lot of shareholder + press that SWTOR would release during EA's fiscal year that i think has already started and runs through 3/2012; but EA promised it'd be before 2012 and release sometime this year.
SWTOR might not be completley innovative, but the choices you make and ongoing/changeing storyline that follows you all the way through will be something really new.. And bringing a lot of Bio Ware's single player elements into a MMO is reason enough for me to get excited.. Plus its Star Wars.. Plus its the most expensive MMO to be developed (or maybe even video game peroid) to date.. Gonna be sink or swim for MMORPG's at that point.
Currently Playing: Rift + Starcraft II + Gears Of War 3 Beta
can none of you "its just you" people understand that some of us MMO veterans simply want something different doesnt matter if its one game or another with different graphics. its new and that is refreshing.
What exactly is new about Rift outside of the Rifts that spawn 6 mobs in each phase, something any MMO could have come up with?
The UI from WoW, the global cooldown from WoW, the Kill X wolves, Collect 6 hides questing from WoW, the instanced dungeons from WoW, the specs from WoW, the tradeskills from WoW,....really......tell me what is so "new and refreshing"? I'll tell you, nothing.
I get that it is many people's first MMO but why do you all think EVERYTHING came from WoW. Barak Obama is the current US President, but I know he didn't write the Constitution. Benedict XVI is the current Pope, but I know he didn't write the Bible. Heidi Fleiss was the 90s famous "Hollywood Madam," but we all know she wasn't the first...well you get the point.
WoW didn't start everything. It just made it more accessible to a generation of gamers that play MMOs to solo and kill each other as opposed to cooperate and form groups.
I have been looking at this site for many years and am not sure why I decided to post now. It feels good after spending all that time reading so many inane things.
For me it was a lot of not good and a lot of the old, the soul system is just okay. Sorry it is basically the wow tallent trees of the warrior, paladin, and death knight comboed with a few they made up all rolled into one and the player can pick the three they want if they are a warrior. Same for others just insert proper classes. The game in and of itself looks like GW but less pretty in some ways. It plays like wow, which is to say, quest, quest, quest, quest that introduces you to new quest guy. And the rifts/invasions are heavily tweeked to favor dps and healers for rankings. As to the not inconveniant. Well I'll let you judge that when they pop up outside town when you have say 6 turn ins to do, and all your quest mobs run off to war for fifteen minutes.
It has the same city/inn rest xp of wow and many of it's follower games as well. Why is this bad, because unlike wow you can pick any trade skills you want. Why is that bad, because you will have players on their mains who only take collection skills, run around node stealing all over, then turn around and give it to an alt to craft. Now this wouldn't be a problem if someone coudn't run up to your kill and harvest the hide off it, even if they didn't kill it. So should you be fighting three mobs you might end up with no hides. Same with ore nodes like in wow.
As for gameplay the tempo is far to slow, there is no hit this move, then that move, then that one while each cools down for a second. You get hit a move, all combat moves are going through the normal combat cool down. Which I understand because I can't use my weapon on the back swing somehow, yet my pet heals, potions, and everything else are blacked out between swings too. Which gets a little annoying after a bit.
The quests themselves get very repetative, especially the ones that ask you to kill X number of X, then go back to the same area to get something off altars that have the same mobs around them. So you end up killing X more of X to do Y.
In conclusion Rift does things better than war and wow but they need to do things way better to really edge out wow. I think most players who are bored with wow will like it, and play it, but push to shove they will end up staying with the characters on wow they put more time and money into.
There was a recent official post made on the official forums encouraging people to go post how good Rift is everywhere they can think of.
That just about says it all imo, they know they have a weak game and are trying to encourage people to be dishonest about a very poor game and if I was not aware as a gamer of this and read people opinions about how good the game is like the OP has done here then imo these people need taking out side and be spoken too.
I hope for your sake OP this is not your intension because that sucks imo and I had my doubts about you when you starting bleating on about how amzing the graphics are...
I will be advising people to steer well away from this and save their money as per my post above, I even got blasted by my guild for being blunt about the game, but I am not here to tell people what to do with their money, people are adult enough to make up their own minds and that's cool as long as people get the correct information they can make that call.
If people listen to you, they will not be playing any MMOs. You haven't posted one positive thing, about ANY GAME, in over a month. I understand not likeing games that are out, as we played a lot of the same games...UO, EQ1, VG.... BUT.... I haven't played anything but a little old UO since I left VG, so its been basically 1.5 years without a game...Sad to say, I hope a game for people like us comes out, but it may not.
I never played WoW (only WoW beta), it was generic imo, and I hate instances, didn't like the way it was pushing MMOs. It felt like a retread with more questing (which I don't like either, I actually like to grind mobs in open dungeons that are dangerous). I didn't like EQs instanced dungeons and the way they pushed that game.
So to today, and 1.5 years of not playing a MMO actively, waiting, waiting, and oh this will finally be it...waiting...waiting... So is Rift my dream mmo? No, but I think the soul system is interesting, and I like some of the direction of open pvp on pvp servers. I would prefer better crafting/harvesting, and I really wish they would have some open and contested dungeons. Rumor is they will have a contested dungeon...Game pushes you towards too much questing imo, but rifts/dungeons may somewhat offset this a bit, not enough imo though....But I am a self admitted mini-quest/instance hater.
So its looking like I am gonna play, and play on a pvp server, and if something that meets my criteria more, and is a solid game comes out, I will be checking it out. Arch Age looks like it could be cool, I will check out GW2/swtor....But I highly doubt swtor will be my thing, as it is probably even more questy.
Rift is a solid game, and if it sucks so bad, give people an alternative, besides going back to Vanguard (0.25 devs working on it, and no plans to develop it) till it dies while you wait, or a EQ progressive server that is something that people that played EQ have already done....I get it, but its no fun, and Rift on a pvp server should have some good fun to be had, if they continue to develop open world content in contested areas.....For its flaws in my eyes, nothing that has come out in the past 3 or so years is better imo. Anything that is more in line with my play style is full of hacks/cheats/dupes/bugs and feels like it is still in beta, or just plain horrible imo.
I hope ya find something you want to play, because that means I probably want to play it too....But 1.5 years and hoping has gotten old for me. I will probably play Rift, GW2 or both till Arch Age comes out or something else, and thats a lot of assuming that it wont disappoint also...Keeping an eye on 38 studios mmorpg also, but thats prob 2 years away, and not enough info to know what they will do. Curt being a EQ1 player, hopefully he makes something EQ like, but people tend to be spending money where more players are now, than where they were 10 years ago....Thats why I say the wait may be a long wait or never ending.
@OP: it isn't the best thing to happen to MMO's - but good that you can enjoy it so much - but I do think that it's a better, more finished and thus enjoyable game than most that we've seen arrive the last few year, and also a good firm step into the direction of turning the MMO malaise around for many MMO gamers.
All in all a good start of the year that has quite a number of promising titles in it that can help progress the MMO genre in the right direction
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
It's refreshing to see a company that will have a polished game at launch. It saddens me that it is nothing new.
That's it in a nutshell, couldn't agree more.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Its just you. I have been in beta for a couple of months, and I just uninstalled Rift. I just do not see much new in that game, and honestly would rather play EQ2 or WoW. Next mmogrp I will buy is swtor.
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I do not see anyone that posted here saying the game is horrible or bad and that others should not play it. Many of us said it is a decent game. It's just not for us. We've been there before and done it. Rift really doesn't bring any real new game play to the table from wht I can tell. You do quest. You level up. Then all you do is PvP in instances(their latest build killed world PvP). Or you do end game raids for - gear? After that?
My new issues with the game.
Didn't like the new difficult monsters. Just made combat more of a grind to me. If I were them I would take combat back to beta 5. At least it was somewhat fun. Allow us to turn the stupid bouncing arrow thingy off, that hovers above our targets. That is so stupid.
Other than that...it's a good game, for those that like this type of MMORPG. I hope it does well. ^_^
That 's one of the main problems i see with Rift.Having so many skills and diferrent character combinations is going to be impossible for them to balance out in PvE and PvP.I see mass class fixes every 2-3 weeks coming out after release.It's up to you if you can keep up with those constant changes.
Whether WoW invented MMOs or not is irrelevant. To a lot of people; MMO = WoW cause they 'know' WoW.
We all want to relate something new to something we know and I won't fault human nature.
Back in the day, all FPS were 'Doom-clones' even though Doom didn't invent the FPS genre.
Back on topic: Sadly this game isn't my cup of tea (from the beta write ups and videos) but hopefully it'll do well.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
I agree. OP, its just you. Rift is the most generic MMO I've played since um, WoW. And I've played most of the big ones since UO.
So just how long have you been playing RIft? You make it sound like you have been playing every day for the past 6 months. Or is this all just guess work on your part? Cause from the statement of the mobs spawning in place is sure looks that way.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
The wife likes it and the soul sytstem and the rifts are amusing enough to give the game a look. Saying the game is the same as all the others does not hold much water as slapping different skins on the same story still works in other forms of entertainment.
Threads like this puzzle the daylights out of me.
I honestly saw nothing about Rift that I didn't see done better in WoW outside of the Rifts and the multiclassing, and those two features alone aren't enough to hold me in a game for any length of time.
Honestly for me it is not that it is done better than WoW it is i just got sick of the WoW community and so far this one is better and I should be able to get a few months out of this until the casualties of puberty infest it to the point of being unavoidable.
I have tested every beta phase apart from the one on now and the reason for that is I have withdrawn myself from the beta and unistalled the game from my machine. I have also requested that they stop sending me beta invite as I am not prepaired to give anymore of my time. I told them if they pay me I will continue to test it but would not be telling anyone to buy or play the game as it very easy and boring to play. Sadly they sent another beta invite for the current phase but I have just deleted the email and unsubscribed from the totally as they did not listen to my concerns.
Initally their customer service was pretty good and they even tried to get me to carry on posting feed-back and giving them the reports I did in the last beta phases, but they have made very few changes and the game you see now will be the game that goes live and imo it's a very weak MMO. Once you have been involved with the rifts and invasions as few times the novelty will wear off and you will see the true game.
Come back after another 4 beta phases and then lets see what you feel and if it's graphics which make you like this game then you need help!! I doubt you will be as excited once you have been involved for some time, however if you are then great for you but I bet you are quite new to the MMO gaming industry and maybe just come straight from Wow too and this is the problem with the game, people who have played Wow will feel at home here as it's just as easy but they graphics are better, the game play is not ground breaking, infact I doubt we will ever see any ground breaking game play from anyone in the future because it's pretty much all been covered. Crafting, well not sure if you can call it that as it's the same as Wow too just poor.
So would I pay to play this game, no. I would rather throw my money out my window, will I tell others to play or waste time in this game, no. You would be better off buying a decent board game and/or go back to having a real life.
I would not be suprised if this game only lasts about 12 months or so and once the hype has died down, I bet many subs cancel within three months or so and we see a major decline in the community playing. When SWTOR goes live or if another MMO comes along people will move to that and leave this game as I feel this will be something new for a short time as people are looking for a new fix and that's all this is.
I'm sure lots of people will not agree with what I have written, but 3 to 6 months down the line I bet if we ask them again they will. Good luck to anyone who uses this as their home in MMO'ing as I know some will really enjoy the game because they do not have high expectations, I do as I have tested most and played many and this is very, very poor game and I would rather play EQI.
Asbo
What is it about the WoW community that makes it "so" bad that it's unbearable to even play the game?
There was a recent official post made on the official forums encouraging people to go post how good Rift is everywhere they can think of.
That just about says it all imo, they know they have a weak game and are trying to encourage people to be dishonest about a very poor game and if I was not aware as a gamer of this and read people opinions about how good the game is like the OP has done here then imo these people need taking out side and be spoken too.
I hope for your sake OP this is not your intension because that sucks imo and I had my doubts about you when you starting bleating on about how amzing the graphics are...
I will be advising people to steer well away from this and save their money as per my post above, I even got blasted by my guild for being blunt about the game, but I am not here to tell people what to do with their money, people are adult enough to make up their own minds and that's cool as long as people get the correct information they can make that call.
Asbo
SWTOR was announced in 2008 i beleive, and even then Bio Ware said it was a year and a half in developement already.. So thats 3-4 years of developement, and we all know the kind of money that is being throwed at SWTOR so they have the best of the best working with them to develope it as quickly as possible.. But yeah, its release date is still HIGHLY debateable..
It was slated for a spring release, but Bio Ware has said that won't happen.. In a financial meeting for EA they told a lot of shareholder + press that SWTOR would release during EA's fiscal year that i think has already started and runs through 3/2012; but EA promised it'd be before 2012 and release sometime this year.
SWTOR might not be completley innovative, but the choices you make and ongoing/changeing storyline that follows you all the way through will be something really new.. And bringing a lot of Bio Ware's single player elements into a MMO is reason enough for me to get excited.. Plus its Star Wars.. Plus its the most expensive MMO to be developed (or maybe even video game peroid) to date.. Gonna be sink or swim for MMORPG's at that point.
Currently Playing:
Rift + Starcraft II + Gears Of War 3 Beta
I get that it is many people's first MMO but why do you all think EVERYTHING came from WoW. Barak Obama is the current US President, but I know he didn't write the Constitution. Benedict XVI is the current Pope, but I know he didn't write the Bible. Heidi Fleiss was the 90s famous "Hollywood Madam," but we all know she wasn't the first...well you get the point.
WoW didn't start everything. It just made it more accessible to a generation of gamers that play MMOs to solo and kill each other as opposed to cooperate and form groups.
I have been looking at this site for many years and am not sure why I decided to post now. It feels good after spending all that time reading so many inane things.
For me it was a lot of not good and a lot of the old, the soul system is just okay. Sorry it is basically the wow tallent trees of the warrior, paladin, and death knight comboed with a few they made up all rolled into one and the player can pick the three they want if they are a warrior. Same for others just insert proper classes. The game in and of itself looks like GW but less pretty in some ways. It plays like wow, which is to say, quest, quest, quest, quest that introduces you to new quest guy. And the rifts/invasions are heavily tweeked to favor dps and healers for rankings. As to the not inconveniant. Well I'll let you judge that when they pop up outside town when you have say 6 turn ins to do, and all your quest mobs run off to war for fifteen minutes.
It has the same city/inn rest xp of wow and many of it's follower games as well. Why is this bad, because unlike wow you can pick any trade skills you want. Why is that bad, because you will have players on their mains who only take collection skills, run around node stealing all over, then turn around and give it to an alt to craft. Now this wouldn't be a problem if someone coudn't run up to your kill and harvest the hide off it, even if they didn't kill it. So should you be fighting three mobs you might end up with no hides. Same with ore nodes like in wow.
As for gameplay the tempo is far to slow, there is no hit this move, then that move, then that one while each cools down for a second. You get hit a move, all combat moves are going through the normal combat cool down. Which I understand because I can't use my weapon on the back swing somehow, yet my pet heals, potions, and everything else are blacked out between swings too. Which gets a little annoying after a bit.
The quests themselves get very repetative, especially the ones that ask you to kill X number of X, then go back to the same area to get something off altars that have the same mobs around them. So you end up killing X more of X to do Y.
In conclusion Rift does things better than war and wow but they need to do things way better to really edge out wow. I think most players who are bored with wow will like it, and play it, but push to shove they will end up staying with the characters on wow they put more time and money into.
It's probalby not just you but it's definitely not me.
ding ding ding ding we have a winner.
If people listen to you, they will not be playing any MMOs. You haven't posted one positive thing, about ANY GAME, in over a month. I understand not likeing games that are out, as we played a lot of the same games...UO, EQ1, VG.... BUT.... I haven't played anything but a little old UO since I left VG, so its been basically 1.5 years without a game...Sad to say, I hope a game for people like us comes out, but it may not.
I never played WoW (only WoW beta), it was generic imo, and I hate instances, didn't like the way it was pushing MMOs. It felt like a retread with more questing (which I don't like either, I actually like to grind mobs in open dungeons that are dangerous). I didn't like EQs instanced dungeons and the way they pushed that game.
So to today, and 1.5 years of not playing a MMO actively, waiting, waiting, and oh this will finally be it...waiting...waiting... So is Rift my dream mmo? No, but I think the soul system is interesting, and I like some of the direction of open pvp on pvp servers. I would prefer better crafting/harvesting, and I really wish they would have some open and contested dungeons. Rumor is they will have a contested dungeon...Game pushes you towards too much questing imo, but rifts/dungeons may somewhat offset this a bit, not enough imo though....But I am a self admitted mini-quest/instance hater.
So its looking like I am gonna play, and play on a pvp server, and if something that meets my criteria more, and is a solid game comes out, I will be checking it out. Arch Age looks like it could be cool, I will check out GW2/swtor....But I highly doubt swtor will be my thing, as it is probably even more questy.
Rift is a solid game, and if it sucks so bad, give people an alternative, besides going back to Vanguard (0.25 devs working on it, and no plans to develop it) till it dies while you wait, or a EQ progressive server that is something that people that played EQ have already done....I get it, but its no fun, and Rift on a pvp server should have some good fun to be had, if they continue to develop open world content in contested areas.....For its flaws in my eyes, nothing that has come out in the past 3 or so years is better imo. Anything that is more in line with my play style is full of hacks/cheats/dupes/bugs and feels like it is still in beta, or just plain horrible imo.
I hope ya find something you want to play, because that means I probably want to play it too....But 1.5 years and hoping has gotten old for me. I will probably play Rift, GW2 or both till Arch Age comes out or something else, and thats a lot of assuming that it wont disappoint also...Keeping an eye on 38 studios mmorpg also, but thats prob 2 years away, and not enough info to know what they will do. Curt being a EQ1 player, hopefully he makes something EQ like, but people tend to be spending money where more players are now, than where they were 10 years ago....Thats why I say the wait may be a long wait or never ending.
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If it's not just you then...I better brace myself because I'll be in for a very bumpy ride in the gaming year or two to come.
@OP: it isn't the best thing to happen to MMO's - but good that you can enjoy it so much - but I do think that it's a better, more finished and thus enjoyable game than most that we've seen arrive the last few year, and also a good firm step into the direction of turning the MMO malaise around for many MMO gamers.
All in all a good start of the year that has quite a number of promising titles in it that can help progress the MMO genre in the right direction
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
The best thing to happen to MMOs would be something that is NOT more of the same.
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It's probably not just you but I definitely can't explain the hype no matter how polished it is.
It's refreshing to see a company that will have a polished game at launch. It saddens me that it is nothing new.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
That's it in a nutshell, couldn't agree more.
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Its just you. I have been in beta for a couple of months, and I just uninstalled Rift. I just do not see much new in that game, and honestly would rather play EQ2 or WoW. Next mmogrp I will buy is swtor.