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Snailtrail
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Ill start off by saying im currently in Xsyon. The game is currently having major issues launching even its beta content, which should it actually happen, would result in me being able to play a game where little to nothing is of use untill they patch the rest of the game a year from now. Game has potential, but so far i have paid for forum access and had no play time that wasnt wiped due to data corruption. Severs have been down a few days ect.
Ok my QQ is over.
I understand Earthrise is having some issues as well. Server lag, and a general "its still in beta but they call it launch" complaints, mabey some exploits....i get that.
What i want to know is, is this the full earthrise game, or are large portions of the game still TBA?
How is the content ( i want a hardcore full loot sandbox) no compas, no direction, you get the picture. How is the game ?...playability issues aside? Is it fun? Will i be maxed out on skill within a week or is there long term playability...if so what?
Im not interested in hearing how MH are a bunch of retarded baboons who dont know what they are doing, im not interesting in hearing about the game being laggy or unplayable...i already know that, and at least your servers are up and running right?
Im not looking to get into another Xsyon, where the game is both unplayable and years away from a complete state however.
So id like some info, even from the 5 guys who are notorious haters if they give me information that i dont already know.
I appreciate any advice and info as im looking to actually play a game, even with crashes and lag, as long as they dont wipe my progress every 10min and keep the servers down 90% of the day.
the earthrise world and concept is largly appealing to me, however i decided to stay away from launch due to the isssues that have been previously stated here, however my choice in games was no better and i dont feel like waiting over a year for Xsyon to be a whole game.
that is all.
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Elements crucial to a proper sandbox are still missing.
The good stuff: It's Full Loot (with insurance) Open PvP, No Soft lock or tab targeting, skill based, player crafted gear matters.
The bad stuff: No sand in the box atm. TW not there, Resource gathering & Exploration missing, No long term goals other than to rack up BP (Experience points in a way) to improve skills. Imbalanced Gear, Crafting is really slow to advance and tedious.
The concept on paper is A Pvper Sanboxer's dream.... it's just isn't materialized atm.... and with the added hindrance of the severe technical issues it will probably be a long way down the road before meaningfull sandbox content is added.
1.First of all Xsyon is still in beta so them fixing things and taking servers down is what should happen. It was running for months before that and was stable. Earthrise chose to do all that after release.
Not sure what you are talking about when you saying all the features being patched in a year from now. Everything I tried worked. I am guessing you are talking about the new combat system.
2. You made a mistake thinking xsyon was all about just full loot pvp. If thats what you are all about . Which is sounds like you are then Xsyon is not and probably never will be your cup of tea.
The problem is, in this specific thread i asked for what he offerd, not for what your offering, which is damage control and flaming.
i realize the state of the game, however i am unaware as to how far it needs to go.
you post adds nothing of value to this thread.
Thanks for the info, this is more or less what i was looking for.
I have another question: How long are they advertising that this content will be implimented?
So it seems to me that both Xsyon and Earthrise are in about the same situation, with Xsyon (servers STILL down indefinatly) seeimg to be possibly a bit more honest in where they are at ( that being trying to launch beta)
However as i understand, Earthrises servers are up a majority of the time, crashes aside.. Also what is the rollback and wipe situation in Earthrise.
I agree with this. I don't know how long down the road it will be. I'm in lurking on the official forums every week mode right now. Also trying Xsyon, but similar issues. So while checking them out playing DCUO a lot, despite its lack of depth.
"Never met a pack of humans that were any different. Look at the idiots that get elected every couple of years. You really consider those guys more mature than us? The only difference between us and them is, when they gank some noobs and take their stuff, the noobs actually die." - Madimorga
Good to hear. While Xsyon is advertising and implimenting potentially an exponetial amount of sand compared to Earthrise, its world is bland and lacking any apocalypitc feel, where Earthrise looks absolutly stunning. Also earthrises combat and mechanics are far more appealing to me.
I gotta wait out Xsyon at least another week or two, untill they move to a better server structure and possibly stop wiping progress every 45min. However if that follows through, its a good 9-14 months untill anything i do becomes usefull (tribal wars) and even then, they already stated the difficulties in adding new content (will have to place new areas on seperate servers ect)
Both seem to be similair in state however.
thanks for the info.
ER is released there isn't going to be a wipe and barring a server meltdown there isn't going to be a rollback either.
As for when the important content will get added there is a roadmap post made by Masthead: http://www.play-earthrise.com/news/ (scroll down a bit you are looking for title ROADMAP)
But as i said the main technical issues still remain so this schedule might be delayed. For how long? .... that's pure guesswork.
Thanks for the info again, very helpful.
I think i have enough for now to weigh any decision i may make in the upcomming weeks. Earthrise is still $50 for 2 months or has that changed...
Xsyon is or was $40 for 2 months+2 weeks but i dont see a point in extra time if that extra time is spent on the forums instead of in game....even if its in game with impending wipes lag and rollbacks that cause you the need to reroll.
It's 50 Euros and first month free.
The 2nd free month offer was for people who joined before the 11th of february. Don't know if they will extend this to include newer subscriptions but as it stands now you get 1 free month only.
I know you said you didn't want to hear about technical issues but i do have to warn you that it's going to be a real test for your patience.
Oh i just didnt want people spamming "dont play theres lag" as i already know about this is all.
Its going to be better than the Xsyon rollercoaster ive been on for the last few weeks. 30second delays are fine when your comming from a game that...no joke.. had 5min delays on actions and chat. Also their servers are still down.
Like i said, im going to wait for a week or two before jumping ship to earthrise, dependant of course on the progress made by either game. However ive always been more interested in earthrise...
I know you can get ER for £27 but what I'd advise is waiting until probably April before looking at the game and asking yourself if you want to buy it. Technical issues aside it is lacking in content as others have stated, if they implement what they say they will on schedule then by April sometime it'll be worth buying.
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I got both games and also experianced both releases. And at the moment, I wouldnt recommand one of them, because they are still not playable.
The difference is, that Xsyon isnt lunched yet, so your bought time will beginn when they officially launch it. that may be the middle of march, or maybe they delay it if there are other problems.
But to be honest, the lag and framerate issues in earthrise are much bigger then Xsyons, even after 3 weeks.
I played Xsyon before the Pre-Order Launch some weeks ago, and without the lag, its a full funcional game. The features are working, the gameplay is working and so on. So when they moved to the new server, it will be a nice playable sandbox game.
Earthrise has the problem, that there is still no real game, even when they fixed all their server issues. So I wouldnt recommand Earthrise untill they made some major Content updates.
For Xsyon, I would wait untill they fixed their Server problems, then its a nice game to play with much sand
Perfect match would be Earthrise graphic, and Xsyons server and gameplay.
But I think a real sandbox game will never look like something like Earthrise. Just because the whole terrain is generated and terraform-able. All Trees can be logged and regrow, grass can be gathered and regrow, and you can form hills, flatten them and so on. While Earthrise is a nice polished world, but no interaction with it.
I really like Sandbox games. Like Star Wars Galaxies, Wurm online or Xsyon. But Earthrise isnt really a Sandbox, it might be a Themepark-Sandbox hybrid, maybe when they add the features one day.
Hm so my honest opinion is: Wait maybe 1-2 weeks for Xsyon to be able to play it with all features and see if you like it, and wait maybe 2-3 month for Earthrise and watch the official Forum to see if they added Content.
I stumbled onto this at YouTube.
The combat mechanics and visual FX look decent.
disclaimed: I'm not an ER player, just curious about seeing it.
Im sure xsyons FPS were much better, its a dated look ect. However, since you stopped playing, things have gotten pretty bad in xsyon, moreplayers joined and well, now that the can keep the servers up, its still lagging, probably about the same as earthrise. it is in an earlier state if you forget the august launch attempt as well
however i think your forgetting that the tribal warfare part of xsyon is a very long ways away, a good portion of the game is useless untill then and the map is quite small currently. this is why im peeking at earthrise. xsyon isnt going to last me 6-9months (an that is their estimate, i bet longer than a year) before i get bored with ganking, or crafting items that have little use.
i would assume that they are on par, only that earthrise is suppose to be getting its patch to completion far sooner.
i would disagree with your blending of xsyons servers into earthrises graphics, much smaller crowd here and absolutely unplayable in the 2 weeks ive been playing. however i have yet to log on in a few hours, mabey the "crowd" has logged off for the night.
why must sandboxes with such great concepts be like this....sigh...
I played ER in beta and was fully aware of what I was getting into when I bought it.
The game is playable, however unless you enjoy constantly kiting mobs for skill point gains, you will find it bland at this time, unless you throw yourself into any early guild skirmishes (which I have not yet done).
My strategy is to assess the state of the game now, and compare it to the state at the time they charge for subs (end of March).
If I feel they are making progress at a good rate, I will sub, if I believe they have bitten off more than they can chew, and making promises they cannot keep, I will unsub and watch the forums until it sinks or swims.
I dont think its reasonable to advise others whether to play or not at this time, but I hope this helps.
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arg, all these magic spaming in that video. Bright colorfull magic beams, skills, and so on. Really tired of these things