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ironhelixironhelix Member Posts: 448

I have been pretty critical of Rift throughout the beta events. I was frankly underwhelmed by most of what I saw, and felt A LOT like I was playing a re-hashed version of Warhammer Online. After some further research, and browsing of several forums, I have decidied to go all-in and purchase the collecter's edition. Reason? I like what I am seeing from he developer, and want to reward a company that actually delivers a completed product to market. After wasting so much money on half-finished games over the years, I almost felt like it was my duty to support Trion. 

As I wait for the download to finish, I have one question: Which faction looks to be the underdog?

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  • ScribZScribZ Member Posts: 424

    Originally posted by ironhelix

    I have been pretty critical of Rift throughout the beta events. I was frankly underwhelmed by most of what I saw, and felt A LOT like I was playing a re-hashed version of Warhammer Online. After some further research, and browsing of several forums, I have decidied to go all-in and purchase the collecter's edition. Reason? I like what I am seeing from he developer, and want to reward a company that actually delivers a completed product to market. After wasting so much money on half-finished games over the years, I almost felt like it was my duty to support Trion. 

    As I wait for the download to finish, I have one question: Which faction looks to be the underdog?

     You should go Guardian of course, I prefer my instant queue warfronts. Oh and there may be more of them, but they are definately the underdog in ability. :P

  • SnailtrailSnailtrail Member Posts: 258

    Did the same thing but with Xsyon.  Starting to regret that move.

    I still want to give people a chance to actually play rifts endgame before i consider jumping in.  However it would pain me to support another standard issue themepark like rift.

    im torn, because, yes they deliverd a solid product upon launch, but it was the same tired old thing, no risk with their vison for the game.

     

    Why must every sandbox be made by a tiny under budgeted team who promises the world but cant get the basics to work....

  • ScribZScribZ Member Posts: 424

    Originally posted by Snailtrail

    Did the same thing but with Xsyon.  Starting to regret that move.

    I still want to give people a chance to actually play rifts endgame before i consider jumping in.  However it would pain me to support another standard issue themepark like rift.

    im torn, because, yes they deliverd a solid product upon launch, but it was the same tired old thing, no risk with their vison for the game.

     

    Why must every sandbox be made by a tiny under budgeted team who promises the world but cant get the basics to work....

     Dont panic Snail dude, give NG just a couple more man. They will deliver. You are in the crew that picked it up right on the dark side. Trust me, its not like it is now really. You wont regret your move once you see whats really there and what it was before the second coming of the apoco-lips. Relax just a bit, dont stress it right now, give em a chance.

  • ironhelixironhelix Member Posts: 448

    Originally posted by Unreal024

    Originally posted by ironhelix

    I have been pretty critical of Rift throughout the beta events. I was frankly underwhelmed by most of what I saw, and felt A LOT like I was playing a re-hashed version of Warhammer Online. After some further research, and browsing of several forums, I have decidied to go all-in and purchase the collecter's edition. Reason? I like what I am seeing from he developer, and want to reward a company that actually delivers a completed product to market. After wasting so much money on half-finished games over the years, I almost felt like it was my duty to support Trion. 

    As I wait for the download to finish, I have one question: Which faction looks to be the underdog?

     A lot of people went all in and bought Mortal Online just to support Starvault aswell. Wonder how many of those people now wish they never had? I'm not trying to say that Trion is anything like Starvault, or that they are a bad company at all. I'm just saying that supporting a company when you don't really care for their product is silly. And at this point, there is no way to know just how good of a developer Trion will be. It's how the company treats it's product and custormers after release that counts. It's always all sunshine and roses in the beginning.

    I don't dislike Rift. If I did, I would have never payed for it. What disappointed me was that it doesn't do anything new. Until someone does that successfully, Rift will suffice. I play EVE primarily, so this willl be a nice diversion. You make a very valid point though.

  • rwmillerrwmiller Member Posts: 472

    Seriously people, why do you keep saying a game is doing the same old tired thing when you pick the genre? If you don't want to play a fantasy mmorpg then don't but stop insulting the dog for being a dog and doing what a dog does. If you wanted a cat you should have gotten one instead.

     

    Here is the thing about Rift, it is a fantasy mmorpg that use the traditional story settings with magic and monsters, good and evil with you being sent on quests to vanquish monsters and get rich on loot. Trion has done a good job of delivering on what you expect and they have added a lot of refinement and a few twists to make the game fun.

     

    You don't want to play a fun and entertaining fantasy mmo? Then go play Eve and put up with all the miner bots and market scammers and gate campers and what not. But, to say rift is either a failure or a bad game is just not true.

     

    I subscribed and right now I feel that even if I stop playing that I will have gotten my money out of it so while I hope that the game continues to be fun and has lots to do if it does end then that is okay.

  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by rwmiller

    Seriously people, why do you keep saying a game is doing the same old tired thing when you pick the genre? If you don't want to play a fantasy mmorpg then don't but stop insulting the dog for being a dog and doing what a dog does. If you wanted a cat you should have gotten one instead.

     

    Here is the thing about Rift, it is a fantasy mmorpg that use the traditional story settings with magic and monsters, good and evil with you being sent on quests to vanquish monsters and get rich on loot. Trion has done a good job of delivering on what you expect and they have added a lot of refinement and a few twists to make the game fun.

     

    You don't want to play a fun and entertaining fantasy mmo? Then go play Eve and put up with all the miner bots and market scammers and gate campers and what not. But, to say rift is either a failure or a bad game is just not true.

     

    I subscribed and right now I feel that even if I stop playing that I will have gotten my money out of it so while I hope that the game continues to be fun and has lots to do if it does end then that is okay.

    I really don't think most of the people complaining about Rift don't like it because it's an MMO or the fact that it's in a fantasy setting. It's most likely the mechanics of the game that people don't like.

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  • rwmillerrwmiller Member Posts: 472

    The mechanics of the game they don't like? So the mechanics which have worked and are popular in other games now suddenly aren't any good?

     

    A yellow dog instead of a brown dog? How many changes need to be done for it qualify as a different breed? One, two or is it a standard that can't realistically be met until it has been genetically modified into a cat?

     

    I would say that Rift has succeeded in releasing a brown dog instead of a yellow one. Yeah the changes are mostly cosmetic in nature but there are some really nice refinements that get ignored. For example the map overview that they have is so well done you can expect it to be copied into WoW and any other games that come out in the future.

     

    Is Rift still a dog and does it have fleas? Yes, for example the crafting has no heart or soul and while it isn't offensive and its not useless it also isn't much fun though at least it isn't horrible. Could Rift be better than it is? With out a doubt and hopefully it will be improved but we will have to wait and see about that.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    It's a white dog all right. You just can make out the colours from the distance you're looking at them.

  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Unreal024

    It's not hard to see what color of dog this is. All one need do is read about the features, look at screenshots and watch videos. This is very much another yellow dog, to deny that is just to kid yourself. I don't care either way, I don't care if it succeeds or fails, though I don't see it doing that well once the next two big budget, shiney coated yellow dogs release. Could care less if any of the yellow dogs do well or not. I've played WoW, and i'm still playing LoTRO on and off. Thats enough yellow dog for me.

    Sticking with the colored dog anology I think it would be more accurate to call Rift a yellow dog with a different colored stripe on it. Rift is pretty much just the same ol' same ol' when it comes to most of it's features. However it does do a few things differently, not many and whether or not somebody finds those differences to be enough is subjective.

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  • SnarkRitterSnarkRitter Member Posts: 316

    Then perharps themepark MMORPGs are no longer your thing? Let's face it shall we? At it's core it's not going to change.

    Different genre for different audience. Imagine a bunch of burnt out football gamers go to PES and FIFA board and complain that these games are pretty much the same , that these later games should be more different and instead of focusing on the "football" part, they should focus more on the "management" part, tell you what?  There's already alternatives that suit your taste, namely the FM series.

    The same apply to you guys here, there's already a successful big budget game made by high quality developer that answer your wish which is "They want to feel part of something again. They want to feel as though what they do means something within the world. They want to be able to make a name for themselves again.",  it's name is EVE Online. I can send you a 21 days trial if you want. Now go play EVE Online and stop bitching on the boards of the games that are clearly not meant for you .

    You don't see me going to  Paradox games forums and complain about that their grand strategy games are all the same, demand that they should be more like Total Wars, like I said: Different games for different audience. I don't remember Rift was ever advertised as something ground breaking that will revolutionize the genre, it was never meant to be. So what people like you are doing here is practically trolling.

  • AselliaAsellia Member UncommonPosts: 174

    Originally posted by SnarkRitter

    Then perharps themepark MMORPGs are no longer your thing? Let's face it shall we? At it's core it's not going to change.

    Different genre for different audience. Imagine a bunch of burnt out football gamers go to PES and FIFA board and complain that these games are pretty much the same , that these later games should be more different and instead of focusing on the "football" part, they should focus more on the "management" part, tell you what?  There's already alternatives that suit your taste, namely the FM series.

    The same apply to you guys here, there's already a successful big budget game made by high quality developer that answer your wish which is "They want to feel part of something again. They want to feel as though what they do means something within the world. They want to be able to make a name for themselves again.",  it's name is EVE Online. I can send you a 21 days trial if you want. Now go play EVE Online and stop bitching on the boards of the games that are clearly not meant for you .

    You don't see me going to  Paradox games forums and complain about that their grand strategy games are all the same, demand that they should be more like Total Wars, like I said: Different games for different audience. I don't remember Rift was ever advertised as something ground breaking that will revolutionize the genre, it was never meant to be. So what people like you are doing here is practically trolling.

     

    Erm. I remember several advertisements saying it was "next generation", and "revolutionizingeverything you know about MmOs"

  • SwaneaSwanea Member UncommonPosts: 2,401

    Originally posted by zidane01970

    Originally posted by SnarkRitter

    Then perharps themepark MMORPGs are no longer your thing? Let's face it shall we? At it's core it's not going to change.

    Different genre for different audience. Imagine a bunch of burnt out football gamers go to PES and FIFA board and complain that these games are pretty much the same , that these later games should be more different and instead of focusing on the "football" part, they should focus more on the "management" part, tell you what?  There's already alternatives that suit your taste, namely the FM series.

    The same apply to you guys here, there's already a successful big budget game made by high quality developer that answer your wish which is "They want to feel part of something again. They want to feel as though what they do means something within the world. They want to be able to make a name for themselves again.",  it's name is EVE Online. I can send you a 21 days trial if you want. Now go play EVE Online and stop bitching on the boards of the games that are clearly not meant for you .

    You don't see me going to  Paradox games forums and complain about that their grand strategy games are all the same, demand that they should be more like Total Wars, like I said: Different games for different audience. I don't remember Rift was ever advertised as something ground breaking that will revolutionize the genre, it was never meant to be. So what people like you are doing here is practically trolling.

     

    Erm. I remember several advertisements saying it was "next generation", and "revolutionizingeverything you know about MmOs"

    Weird I don't.  But then, I don't pay attention much.

  • SnarkRitterSnarkRitter Member Posts: 316

    Originally posted by zidane01970

    Erm. I remember several advertisements saying it was "next generation", and "revolutionizingeverything you know about MmOs"

    The next generation == ground breaking nor revolutionary, the "next generation" console games overall are not in any way ground breaking nor revolutionary to their predecessor yet they're still considered to be next generation. Just like your kid does not need to be ground breaking nor revolutionary to be your next generation.

    The latter quote where did you get that I might add? Because I tried google "Rift revolutionary" and have yet to found anything from Trion.

  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904

    Originally posted by ironhelix

    I have been pretty critical of Rift throughout the beta events. I was frankly underwhelmed by most of what I saw, and felt A LOT like I was playing a re-hashed version of Warhammer Online. <>

    Why go against your own impressions?

    It's your money and you can do with it whatever you want.

    But I know that if I'm being overly critical about something it will not end up well no matter how hard I try to think otherwise.

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