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While not actually playing RIFT myself as yet I did play the beta and I still play WoW on a semi regular basis and know a fair few people in the game still given I've played 6 years . Most of my friends (age ranges early 20s - mid 40s )given the word of mouth possative feedback they are getting are intending to at least try RIFT . Word of Telara has reached Azeroth and the word is good .
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Most of my WoW playing friends don't care that Rift exists.
The only WoW players I know who aren't going to play Rift say they have too much invested in WoW with raiding. That would be two out of sixteen people I personally know. The hardcore raiding guilds will probably stick with WoW which isn't all that surprising to me.
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It has happened before... Most Wow players I know quit Wow surprisingly often and try other games (or cold turkey). So far have they always been back after a month so I have my doubts that Rift will change that in most cases.
Anything might happen but at least all my Wow playing friends except 1(who leads a rather large raidguild) are worse than smokers with quitting and coming back. It would suggest that Wow is very addictive if nothing else.
If anyone from Wow are testing Rift and is still there after 2 months it is worth talking about but most of the guys also played Aion, WAR, AoC and LOTRO but still play Wow.
most of wow people try wow kind of games.
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I also do find myself not logging into wow since rift beta anymore ... i'm enjoying the new shiny.
How long the shiny will last? ... dunno ... in 5 years i went back to wow 3 times, but this is a different beast.
I do miss lower level dungeons in Rift though ... only 1 up to level 25.
Rift will have zero effect on WoW
SW TOR and GW2? I'm not so sure.
When GW2 comes out, Rift will be a ghost town.
I am not so sure that GW2 really are aiming for the same players. I think TOR will affect Wows subs more, while it have Bioware styled dialogues it's gameplay will be a lot closer to Wow.
Of course, that is talking PvE players. PvP players might really move, particularly people who want arenas or guild Vs guild.
I still don't think Rift will become a ghost town, I think it will be the next EQ2, a medium sized game with faithful followers.
That was the good think about 7 Beta's and the advertising they did. It gave you chance to
form an opinion of it. Now if you only played to lvl 10 and called it a WoW clone then
you got issues, but the ones that actually tried and did not like it I can not hate on.
Why do people who play Guild Wars think anyone cares about GW2? They do realize some of us
hate the entire concept of the game + NCSoft is involved which 100% of the time = failure.
HAHAH exactly I can't stand anything associated with NCSoft. I hated Guild Wars 1. Such a boring game to me and after playing Aion and dealing with the terrible customer service they provided me when I got my account jacked I would never play a game by them again.
I'm having fun in RIFT for the first time in a long time thats all I care about!
In my experiance its mainly younger players that don't really care if it exists or newer players that hav'nt done most of the content in WoW . Old timers ( both in terms of age and time played in WoW ) generally speaking are intreagued enough at least that theres something else half decent out there . Which is proberbly why RIFT started with over a million players and depending on its longevity that could only rise given the likes of gw2 etc could be over a year away . It seams to have come out at the right time .
The people I know from WoW trying RIFT don't at present intend to give up one for the other but they are intending to try it . A lot depends on how RIFT progresses . Its off to a good start but its the long game that matters . If thats good then I could see WoW losing subs to it .
Yeah, before I quit WoW last month a good chunk of my guild had tried Rift and gave favorable reviews of it. Many of them were long time vets like myself who've played WoW since the dawn of time. WoW veterans seem to relate better with Rift than non-WoW veterans. I think mostly because you just get sick of the same thing after so many years =P.
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Weird most people I know in WoW don't care.
To messure up coming game popularity in WoW simple mention the up coming game. The more people responds the more people want to play that game.
In january I mention RIFT and the responese I got were "RIFT?"
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
RIFT is the new Shiny thing. Interest will fade once people relize it does not have much else to offer once that new care smell wears out.
I predict 500K subs in a year. Less if GW2 and TOR have successfull launches.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
WoW's community is one giant troll, sad to say. The only thing that will get any response from people in trade is to say "Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker", which will get people talking for 45 minutes... *sigh*. it also varies from server to server. Some servers are just absolutely the worst. On my server we could have dicussions about Rift all day given it's relatively small size, but on other servers you just get a bunch of racist hate comments.
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Although your prediction is a little safe maybe you will be proven right . I do remember people saying the same thing about WoW six years ago though and how wrong they were . There are always exceptions to the rule . It all depends on the endgame again.
If anything Cata only showed that peole are still with WoW 4.7 million copies sold thus far is about there entire western playerbase, and it has only been about 5 months from relase. Alot of people are still leveling Worgens goblins and alts. The new server that I transferd on has now just started with major raiding content.
As far as RIFT being polished. Yes I would agree with you there, but I don't think WoW is RIFTs proplem at the moment as much as the next big MMO coming out, TOR. opinion After playing both Betas I can say Trion will have to double time it with content./opinion. I think RIFT is also making the mistake of litterilly saying "We are not in Azeroth anymore". That kinda killed what interest I had in the game.
I give RIFT a solid 8, its more polished than anything that came out in the last five years, but saddy when games like TOR and GW2 hit it won't do very well. Had this game came out a year or two later than yes I would be playing this game.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Theyll try Rift because its new and theyll expect something different, like i did.
I already have many friends that like me got into beta and simply couldnt be bothered anymore after getting to level 20.
Rift is beautiful, theres just no reason to play it when youve played another game almost exactly like it for 5-6+ years.
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The animations killed rift for me. They are horrid. This of course is my opinion. So ill just have to stay with wow for now. =(
I think when people use the term gear grind, or something simular that they are missing the gaming aspect of MMOs. In most RPGs gear is important and alot of time players will try to get the best gear in the game.
Actually scatch that point. In games you need something to work towards whether it be finishing the story or shooting up noobs in buildings. People care about character progression in MMOs and I think thats why there is a gear grind in every x-pack, this does not just happen in Wow but MMOs in general including sandboxes. I think sandbox developers are somewhat Naieve (no spelling check) to think that if you just let players do what they want and have no real goal set that they have to accomplish, that they thing people will stick around.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
This is true. Some people who played the Beta do not like it. A ton of people stayed though
and that seems to be is what is creating this fear.
I think anyone in their right mind can accept WoW has endgame/raid content. That equals
survivability in an MMO. Regular updates of end game = win.
Aion never did it. They released with 3 instances and nothing over 5 man. I am not even sure
what WAR had for end game. People that say Rift will fail have done little to no research
on why other games failed and it is obvious.
You can not sit here and say Rift does not have end game. When I see hardcore EQ raiding
guilds saying they are having fun in Rift end game, then that is the best signature you can
give a game.
It has released and this is just RELEASE mind you. 10 normal and expert mode dungeons with all
new zones on expert. 5 open world 10 man raids. 1 5 boss 20 man raid dungeon on a one week
lock out now. Another double digit 20 man raid with 30 days give or take. ANOTHER double digit
20 man raid called Hammerknell within 60-90 days.
Yup, I agree to this as well. This is the first game since WoW, that has gotten me off of WoW. Feels great.
I think Rift definitely has a chance to pull out a lot of subs from WoW. And Rift has a couple of things playing in its favor. I think a hugely popular feeling since cataclysm has been one of dissapointment or boredom( at least on my server, less guild activity, big guilds dying, empty friends list which is usually thriving, ect). Not necessarily because it was a bad wow expansion, but because it was incredibly grindy, with not much content outside of leveling(which could be done ina weekend,) and probably some of the worst balance in years by far.
Rift on the other hadn has the new car smell+ a very smooth launch, can run decent on low end machine, and polish( so wow subs won't be turned off as fast as they were with aoc+war).
As for myself, I don't really care what everyone's playing. An mmo can live off 10k subs if the will was there. But rift will suffice until darkfall's next expansion, tera , and guild wars 2. A couple months of world raiding rifts, and invasion and stuff. Not to bad, I'll have lots of time to experiment with different builds and what not.
I play WoW about 3 to 4 months per expansion, I already unsubscribed to Cata and probably won't return until the next expac.
Rift sounds decent but I'm not looking for a subscription fantasy based MMO anymore. Because of that I didn't even bother with trying the Beta. I hope it succeeds but I didn't see the appeal over WoW.
My whole guild in WOW, of 250+, 2 are trying it. 1already cancelled his account, the other not sure. Alot of WOW players could care less about Rift.