Saturday, around noon, I was in Auberdine, standing there, I had my pet called out, just for fun I wanted to do my Beast-mode spell to take control of my pet, as soon as I hit the Icon for the spell, the game seemed to go into a pause, moments later I get a Windows critical error, game quits back to Windows, I re-load the game. I wasn't able to enter for about 1 minute cause it kept telling me "This character name already exists in the realm" ... waited 1 minute, relogged, everything was fine.
Sunday no crashes at all.
I say check your video card. All my friends that have ATI video cards tend to have crash problems all the time. My only other friend that owns an nVidia Geforce and myself, we barely ever crash.
"I say check your video card. All my friends that have ATI video cards tend to have crash problems all the time. My only other friend that owns an nVidia Geforce and myself, we barely ever crash. Coincidense? I think not!!! All hail nVidia!!!!! "
Nope. I have a Nvidia and I get dropped after about 3 hours of playtime.
I did figure out a trick to stop getting disconnected though.
When you sense a server lag, stop. Don't move. Give it like a minute or so. The server will catch up to you.
If I do that, I do not get dropped anymore. Does it suck? Yep. It does.
I'm a neutral party in relation to you two people bickering like an old couple.
The game world is small, but at least its two zones (plus instances) instead of 200 zones and loading every 5 minutes unless you stick on one small zone.
I'm pretty sure the servers can hold 3000+ people, the problem is when you get hundreds of new people in the same area it over-stresses the server, THIS is what happened on the launch, you realize how hard it is for *any* server to track and take care of 300 people who all congregate in the same area? Look at planetside if you want a great example of how bad servers can get when you have only 250 people in one area. Sure, it doesn't lag as bad as it can, but thats because multiple normally server-side operations were brought to the computers of the clients using the game.
Lets take a gander. 120k+ people over 40 servers all creating a brand new character in one of 8 starter zones. Now, thats roughly 3k people per server, some had more, others less, and 3k over 8 is roughly 375 people in the STARTER zones alone. You do the math. The computer has to compute multiple clients in the same area in a system that cannot split and ghost the same zone in other "zoned" MMO's and it also has to track: Individual players, their level, experience, items, and who they were interacting with, how they are interacting (IE such as skills/spells). ALL friendly NPC's, this includes the guards, innkeepers, merchants, etc, and it ALSO had to track every single monster as it: spawned, aggroed, was attacked, when it attacked, what items it dropped, who was looting it, and a veritable plethora of other values.
Now, in essence compared to EQ2's ZONED system, it could take a far lower number of people and spread them out over multiple zones which in turn would be multiple servers as part of one server cluster. I doubt it was ever unlikely that there were more than 30 people per any one starter area because of how far it spreads people.
Sure, WoW isn't perfectly balanced, but comparing EQ2, which has 24 seperate sub-classes compared to WoW's 9, EQ2 is just going to be more proned to them being broken, and a lot of bugs were released that only effect some classes. Also, SoE has been known to release all of their games in a broken state, in some cases taking 6+ months just to fix them because of how slow the devs are.
I'm not biased in favour of WoW over EQ2, not by a longshot, i'm biased towards blizzard since i know they deliver quality products (and WoW is a testament to that) whilst SoE always rushes it out the door, which is what they did with EQ2.
I have never crashed. The crashing problem is often the "COMPUTERS" fault not the game! I played AO for some years. On my old comp it crashed all the time. On my new comp, it has yet to crash
Here is your solution guys
Edit: Some spelling
Yeah deal with it, or else --------------------------------------------------- Cheers! I'm out ---------------------------------------------
Cheers! I'm out :: ---------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Silver. I have never crashed. The crashing problem is often the "COMPUTERS" fault not the game! I played AO for some years. On my old comp it crashed all the time. On my new comp, it has yet to crash Here is your solution guys
Ummm... Nope. Wrong. I have a top notch system. I run Doom 3, Half Life 2, and SWG SCREAMING fast. It is a network issue. Plain and simple. It may be due to the fact that I am playing on a CST server and not an EST server. (Did not know that there were timezone servers till after I joined it. :P) But if that was the case, I would run into lagh issues with SWG, and my other multi games. (Which I don't.) It's a coding/network issue. Watch... They will patch it soon.
Why is it you are the only person suffering from crashing?
Just cause you can run HL2 or doom doesn't mean you can run EVERY game. HL2 uses the steam engine and doom uses...some other engine. The engine for WoW could be so subtly different from HL2 or Doom or EQ or EQ2 that it just happens to not work on *your* system. Just cause you can get 300 FPS in doom when 200 people are on the screen doesn't mean you can run every game even better that has worse graphics.....
I only crashed once and that was like 3-4 days ago when the game dropped for a good 5-6 hours.Not to mention the horredious lag during the morning backups other than that i have never had a problem in the week that ive been playing.Game is great and i love playing it.
Originally posted by Vron It's hardly a matter of opinion. The first week of EQ2 was as smooth as can be... I saw many posts saying "Best launch ever".The first week of WoW was horrible. I saw many people saying "worst launch ever".
Oh? shall we review the 9 plus pages of 6800 GT users? Or perhaps the threads of users crashing for various other reasons? Have you even looked at the official forums for EQ II?
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Alright, since we are yet again on the WoW vs EQ 2 flamage, now on the topic of who had the better launch I think some facts need to be laid out. Wow has some crashing issues, yep, I checked into it on their forums because I am considering both games, the official forums was the first logical place to see what players are saying, both have some series issues atm, some similar as a matter of fact.
Some food for thought on EQ 2's launch, which was good, but hardly perfect:
I want to play EQ 2, TRUST me, I am surely not gonna sit and down on it just for the sport of bickering but alot of these issues are serious too me, for one I own a 6800 GT which is supposed to be the premiere card the game was designed for, and well ATI fans are sitting grinning at this point because they outperform the 6 series card. I am also consider playing Wow, but at a later date after I drop off another monthly on an MMO that I am currently paying for.
Why has no EQ 2 players atleast been honest and shared these issues here? no problems, perfect launch, I think not.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Im happy for EQII in their good launch; But WHY are so many people complaining about WoW a month after its release, Its not just WoW i see alot of people Bitching about games as soon as there released like "The perfect game" can be made and released without any problems ever.
Also I seen alot of people pushing for a faster release and now saying it sucks because of this or that and mostly minor crap. Im not a fanboy or any of that actually the only other blizzard game I've played is Diablo II and I didnt really care for it (mainly the community).
GOD D*MN PEOPLE GIVE IT A CHANCE INSTEAD OR CRYING ABOUT EVERYTHING RIGHT AFTER IT RELEASED.
"Open your mind for a different view"
Win XP Home Athalon 64 3400+ 1024 DDR 400MHz RAM Duel 120 GiG HDs W/Raid 0 GeForce 6800 GT 256MB
My buddy at work was telling me his eq2 was down for a whole weekend at around 2 weeks after release. It may have had a good release but from what I have heard is that it still has some issues with bugs. I am not saying that they are game stopping bugs, but from the impressions i get from my friend is that it is kind of buggy.
I tried eq2 beta and I will admit it was fun and I liked the crafting system. It is my personal, I will repeat for the hard headed, my personal opinion that wow is a more enjoyable game. Also after swg I kind of have a bitter taste in my mouth from SWG. Boy what a abortion that was:)
Now if we are going to pick the smoothest launch of a game in the US, I would have to say FFXI. But that really isnt to far considering it was out in Japan for over a year.
Daoc was a pretty smooth launch back in its day.
Also to answer the original poster of this topic. I for one havent had any issues with crashes. I am running a 5950xt with 1g of ram on a 2400xp. The game runs flawless for me.
Originally posted by Freelance Daoc was a pretty smooth launch back in its day.
All of DAoC's launches were very smooth but you will never hear anyone give them credit for it but a few. I am sitting here going through the EQ II manual, which btw, is a really dam good manual in my opinion and honestly the first thing that came to mind is this is DAoC II. Don't think I am bashing, I am not, I am loving what I am reading in EQ II and I am glad they used alot of the good idea's Mythic put into play with camelot. Its sounds like its going to be very enjoyable to me playing EQ II. But time will tell for sure.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
The only time I ever have any lag or problems are when im in the auction house, it will lock up sometimes. I think theres a bug while mining to where it keeps you kneeling like your picking something up and I have to relog but other than that it works great for me.
Right people with ONE type of video card had problems, compare that to WoW who had whole server farms go down. So you tell me which is worse: Having people with one type of video card not able to play, or having it so NO ONE can play.
I LOVE this thread. It really shows how egotistical some people can be. Their fagile egos can't handle the fact that some other MMO may have done something better. First WoW fans are saying "The launch went perfectly" then when provided with concrete proof to the contrary, they switch to, "Well the reason is..." They just can't admit, that "Yes WoW's launch didn't go as well, but I still like it better than EQ2" or they can't admit, "EQ2 has pretty graphics, but I like WoW's style better". They have to say EQ's are crappy so they can feel better about liking WoW.
Here let me show you how it's done: WoW's solo content is MUCH better than EQ2's, but I like EQ2 better. EQ2 has a serious memory leak, but I still like it better than WoW.
See it's really not that hard, and I don't even feel like less of a person for being able to admit that.
You obviously didn't read my post very well Jo, I hardly stated anything of the likes. I DID however point out flaws on the other end since no one else would. Just hell set on comparing tit for tat huh? My post was hardly flaming or at any level that would incite such a response from you. And if you had look through the threads alittle better you would see that there was more issues that just one video card going, which your incorrect about ANYWAYS, its with more then one card. Seems to me you just have issue with people liking something. I didn't see you jumping up to offer any of the flaws of EQ 2 into the mix. And it also seems that YOU are the one that has a problem with them liking WoW, which IS your problem. I have no choice but to think that way when you sit and throw little snips and shots at the end of your post like: "They have to say EQ's are crappy so they can feel better about liking WoW". As if every WoW player is in some sort of denial and they just couldn't by chance have different opinions then you.
Last time I checked no one can shut up about which is crappy and which is better, WoW and EQ 2 fan alike. So don't even just start pointing fingers at the WoW fans. I can recall many times before EQ 2 was released, the EQ fans tearing down the WoW fans. I don't even play WoW. I did go buy EQ 2 last night however, but I can sit here and except some critisism to it. And your posts have been hardly momumental on how much thought you put into them on this thread. Who's the egotistical one, I didn't defend a soul, but you sure did have to get a few good cuts in and give a rather personally directed post with insult over mine. A response which I certainly did not deserve considering my nuetrality up til this point for the most part in this thread and overall in the forum in regard to this topic. Especially when the topic was a request about the random crashes and NOT about the server farm problems they had.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I know it was the source engine, it was a typo that I didn't catch.
Yes, EQ2 was in fact down for a *long* time with ZERO playability, at least WoW still had servers up during the times of high stress.
I'm not saying that WoW has a "superior graphics engine" when in fact the two engines are COMPLETELY unrelated in any way. Graphics wise they are two different styles with different demands and the like.
I'll use horizons as an example. Graphics wise its not much worse than WoW's if you were to compare design characteristics...anyways. Horizons doesn't even USE a graphics card in its engine (or it didn't) and it runs purely on RAM i believe. THIS means that you could have a radeon x800 XT pro (or whatever it is) and your framerate could be 5 fps since you don't have enough RAM.
The two engines can and will be so different in design that even if the graphical styles are exactly the same in design they can still perform completely differently.
the game has never worked properly for me since coming into day 1 of retail. Basically the last 2 months of gameplay have involved constant crashes and tireless frustration. Ive ordered a new graphics card as my previous one had the capicators leaking. Im hoping this may at last fix the issues but given people have the highest of high end gear and still crash, im not holding out much hope.
The game might be worth 8.8, but ive NEVER in five years of mmo gaming had this much trouble with a game...It gets a 1 for me when it comes to stability and thousands of others have also suffered the same fate.
If the new card doesnt solve the problem, I WILL be moving to Eq2...
Originally posted by Vron It's hardly a matter of opinion. The first week of EQ2 was as smooth as can be... I saw many posts saying "Best launch ever". The first week of WoW was horrible. I saw many people saying "worst launch ever".
While I am extremely unhappy with the state WOW is in with many of their servers I think that there are some things that are totally missing from being objective. Counting numbers of posts to come to a conclusion in how a game is acting is not very scientific.
WOW had over 60 servers up for launch. EQ2 had around 12, I was told. WOW set a record and sold 500,000 copies almost immediately at launch. EQ2 did not come close.
Now where I see Blizzard screwing those of us who play is that they allowed so many copies to be sold and did not have the capacity to serve them. But during week one they fixed this pretty quickly by adding many more servers.
Since Christmas though they have went downhill again. They once again oversold their product and the servers that were running at an acceptable rate for a new game got hammered with new customers.
No WOW is not the perfect MMO like some would say. But having played every SOE game, except EQ2, I would say so far they are doing at least as good as SOE did. If they let these problems go on for over 6 months like SOE did with SWG then I will start to believe that Blizzard = SOE.
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Last friday everything was cool.
Saturday, around noon, I was in Auberdine, standing there, I had my pet called out, just for fun I wanted to do my Beast-mode spell to take control of my pet, as soon as I hit the Icon for the spell, the game seemed to go into a pause, moments later I get a Windows critical error, game quits back to Windows, I re-load the game. I wasn't able to enter for about 1 minute cause it kept telling me "This character name already exists in the realm" ... waited 1 minute, relogged, everything was fine.
Sunday no crashes at all.
I say check your video card. All my friends that have ATI video cards tend to have crash problems all the time. My only other friend that owns an nVidia Geforce and myself, we barely ever crash.
Coincidense? I think not!!! All hail nVidia!!!!!
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Stealth - Ambush - Hemorrhage - Sinister Strike x2 - Cold Blood - Eviscerate - Vanish - Preparation - Cold Blood - Ambush - ... you're dead! :P
"I say check your video card. All my friends that have ATI video cards tend to have crash problems all the time. My only other friend that owns an nVidia Geforce and myself, we barely ever crash.
Coincidense? I think not!!! All hail nVidia!!!!! "
Nope. I have a Nvidia and I get dropped after about 3 hours of playtime.
I did figure out a trick to stop getting disconnected though.
When you sense a server lag, stop. Don't move. Give it like a minute or so. The server will catch up to you.
If I do that, I do not get dropped anymore. Does it suck? Yep. It does.
But I LOVE THIS GAME! YOOHOO!
I'm a neutral party in relation to you two people bickering like an old couple.
The game world is small, but at least its two zones (plus instances) instead of 200 zones and loading every 5 minutes unless you stick on one small zone.
I'm pretty sure the servers can hold 3000+ people, the problem is when you get hundreds of new people in the same area it over-stresses the server, THIS is what happened on the launch, you realize how hard it is for *any* server to track and take care of 300 people who all congregate in the same area? Look at planetside if you want a great example of how bad servers can get when you have only 250 people in one area. Sure, it doesn't lag as bad as it can, but thats because multiple normally server-side operations were brought to the computers of the clients using the game.
Lets take a gander. 120k+ people over 40 servers all creating a brand new character in one of 8 starter zones. Now, thats roughly 3k people per server, some had more, others less, and 3k over 8 is roughly 375 people in the STARTER zones alone. You do the math. The computer has to compute multiple clients in the same area in a system that cannot split and ghost the same zone in other "zoned" MMO's and it also has to track: Individual players, their level, experience, items, and who they were interacting with, how they are interacting (IE such as skills/spells). ALL friendly NPC's, this includes the guards, innkeepers, merchants, etc, and it ALSO had to track every single monster as it: spawned, aggroed, was attacked, when it attacked, what items it dropped, who was looting it, and a veritable plethora of other values.
Now, in essence compared to EQ2's ZONED system, it could take a far lower number of people and spread them out over multiple zones which in turn would be multiple servers as part of one server cluster. I doubt it was ever unlikely that there were more than 30 people per any one starter area because of how far it spreads people.
Sure, WoW isn't perfectly balanced, but comparing EQ2, which has 24 seperate sub-classes compared to WoW's 9, EQ2 is just going to be more proned to them being broken, and a lot of bugs were released that only effect some classes. Also, SoE has been known to release all of their games in a broken state, in some cases taking 6+ months just to fix them because of how slow the devs are.
I'm not biased in favour of WoW over EQ2, not by a longshot, i'm biased towards blizzard since i know they deliver quality products (and WoW is a testament to that) whilst SoE always rushes it out the door, which is what they did with EQ2.
I have never crashed.
The crashing problem is often the "COMPUTERS" fault not the game!
I played AO for some years. On my old comp it crashed all the time. On my new comp, it has yet to crash
Here is your solution guys
Edit: Some spelling
Yeah deal with it, or else
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Cheers! I'm out
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Cheers! I'm out
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Why is it you are the only person suffering from crashing?
Just cause you can run HL2 or doom doesn't mean you can run EVERY game. HL2 uses the steam engine and doom uses...some other engine. The engine for WoW could be so subtly different from HL2 or Doom or EQ or EQ2 that it just happens to not work on *your* system. Just cause you can get 300 FPS in doom when 200 people are on the screen doesn't mean you can run every game even better that has worse graphics.....
Oh? shall we review the 9 plus pages of 6800 GT users? Or perhaps the threads of users crashing for various other reasons? Have you even looked at the official forums for EQ II?
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Alright, since we are yet again on the WoW vs EQ 2 flamage, now on the topic of who had the better launch I think some facts need to be laid out. Wow has some crashing issues, yep, I checked into it on their forums because I am considering both games, the official forums was the first logical place to see what players are saying, both have some series issues atm, some similar as a matter of fact.
Some food for thought on EQ 2's launch, which was good, but hardly perfect:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=161
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=150
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=909
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=140
and lastly the entire support forum in the EQ 2 official forums:
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=tech_support
I want to play EQ 2, TRUST me, I am surely not gonna sit and down on it just for the sport of bickering but alot of these issues are serious too me, for one I own a 6800 GT which is supposed to be the premiere card the game was designed for, and well ATI fans are sitting grinning at this point because they outperform the 6 series card. I am also consider playing Wow, but at a later date after I drop off another monthly on an MMO that I am currently paying for.
Why has no EQ 2 players atleast been honest and shared these issues here? no problems, perfect launch, I think not.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Im happy for EQII in their good launch; But WHY are so many people complaining about WoW a month after its release, Its not just WoW i see alot of people Bitching about games as soon as there released like "The perfect game" can be made and released without any problems ever.
Also I seen alot of people pushing for a faster release and now saying it sucks because of this or that and mostly minor crap. Im not a fanboy or any of that actually the only other blizzard game I've played is Diablo II and I didnt really care for it (mainly the community).
GOD D*MN PEOPLE GIVE IT A CHANCE INSTEAD OR CRYING ABOUT EVERYTHING RIGHT AFTER IT RELEASED.
"Open your mind for a different view"
Win XP Home
Athalon 64 3400+
1024 DDR 400MHz RAM
Duel 120 GiG HDs W/Raid 0
GeForce 6800 GT 256MB
My buddy at work was telling me his eq2 was down for a whole weekend at around 2 weeks after release. It may have had a good release but from what I have heard is that it still has some issues with bugs. I am not saying that they are game stopping bugs, but from the impressions i get from my friend is that it is kind of buggy.
I tried eq2 beta and I will admit it was fun and I liked the crafting system. It is my personal, I will repeat for the hard headed, my personal opinion that wow is a more enjoyable game. Also after swg I kind of have a bitter taste in my mouth from SWG. Boy what a abortion that was:)
Now if we are going to pick the smoothest launch of a game in the US, I would have to say FFXI. But that really isnt to far considering it was out in Japan for over a year.
Daoc was a pretty smooth launch back in its day.
Also to answer the original poster of this topic. I for one havent had any issues with crashes. I am running a 5950xt with 1g of ram on a 2400xp. The game runs flawless for me.
All of DAoC's launches were very smooth but you will never hear anyone give them credit for it but a few. I am sitting here going through the EQ II manual, which btw, is a really dam good manual in my opinion and honestly the first thing that came to mind is this is DAoC II. Don't think I am bashing, I am not, I am loving what I am reading in EQ II and I am glad they used alot of the good idea's Mythic put into play with camelot. Its sounds like its going to be very enjoyable to me playing EQ II. But time will tell for sure.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Fadeous,
Right people with ONE type of video card had problems, compare that to WoW who had whole server farms go down. So you tell me which is worse: Having people with one type of video card not able to play, or having it so NO ONE can play.
I LOVE this thread. It really shows how egotistical some people can be. Their fagile egos can't handle the fact that some other MMO may have done something better. First WoW fans are saying "The launch went perfectly" then when provided with concrete proof to the contrary, they switch to, "Well the reason is..." They just can't admit, that "Yes WoW's launch didn't go as well, but I still like it better than EQ2" or they can't admit, "EQ2 has pretty graphics, but I like WoW's style better". They have to say EQ's are crappy so they can feel better about liking WoW.
Here let me show you how it's done:
WoW's solo content is MUCH better than EQ2's, but I like EQ2 better.
EQ2 has a serious memory leak, but I still like it better than WoW.
See it's really not that hard, and I don't even feel like less of a person for being able to admit that.
You obviously didn't read my post very well Jo, I hardly stated anything of the likes. I DID however point out flaws on the other end since no one else would. Just hell set on comparing tit for tat huh? My post was hardly flaming or at any level that would incite such a response from you. And if you had look through the threads alittle better you would see that there was more issues that just one video card going, which your incorrect about ANYWAYS, its with more then one card. Seems to me you just have issue with people liking something. I didn't see you jumping up to offer any of the flaws of EQ 2 into the mix. And it also seems that YOU are the one that has a problem with them liking WoW, which IS your problem. I have no choice but to think that way when you sit and throw little snips and shots at the end of your post like: "They have to say EQ's are crappy so they can feel better about liking WoW". As if every WoW player is in some sort of denial and they just couldn't by chance have different opinions then you.
Last time I checked no one can shut up about which is crappy and which is better, WoW and EQ 2 fan alike. So don't even just start pointing fingers at the WoW fans. I can recall many times before EQ 2 was released, the EQ fans tearing down the WoW fans. I don't even play WoW. I did go buy EQ 2 last night however, but I can sit here and except some critisism to it. And your posts have been hardly momumental on how much thought you put into them on this thread. Who's the egotistical one, I didn't defend a soul, but you sure did have to get a few good cuts in and give a rather personally directed post with insult over mine. A response which I certainly did not deserve considering my nuetrality up til this point for the most part in this thread and overall in the forum in regard to this topic. Especially when the topic was a request about the random crashes and NOT about the server farm problems they had.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I know it was the source engine, it was a typo that I didn't catch.
Yes, EQ2 was in fact down for a *long* time with ZERO playability, at least WoW still had servers up during the times of high stress.
I'm not saying that WoW has a "superior graphics engine" when in fact the two engines are COMPLETELY unrelated in any way. Graphics wise they are two different styles with different demands and the like.
I'll use horizons as an example. Graphics wise its not much worse than WoW's if you were to compare design characteristics...anyways. Horizons doesn't even USE a graphics card in its engine (or it didn't) and it runs purely on RAM i believe. THIS means that you could have a radeon x800 XT pro (or whatever it is) and your framerate could be 5 fps since you don't have enough RAM.
The two engines can and will be so different in design that even if the graphical styles are exactly the same in design they can still perform completely differently.
the game has never worked properly for me since coming into day 1 of retail. Basically the last 2 months of gameplay have involved constant crashes and tireless frustration. Ive ordered a new graphics card as my previous one had the capicators leaking. Im hoping this may at last fix the issues but given people have the highest of high end gear and still crash, im not holding out much hope.
The game might be worth 8.8, but ive NEVER in five years of mmo gaming had this much trouble with a game...It gets a 1 for me when it comes to stability and thousands of others have also suffered the same fate.
If the new card doesnt solve the problem, I WILL be moving to Eq2...
While I am extremely unhappy with the state WOW is in with many of their servers I think that there are some things that are totally missing from being objective. Counting numbers of posts to come to a conclusion in how a game is acting is not very scientific.
WOW had over 60 servers up for launch. EQ2 had around 12, I was told. WOW set a record and sold 500,000 copies almost immediately at launch. EQ2 did not come close.
Now where I see Blizzard screwing those of us who play is that they allowed so many copies to be sold and did not have the capacity to serve them. But during week one they fixed this pretty quickly by adding many more servers.
Since Christmas though they have went downhill again. They once again oversold their product and the servers that were running at an acceptable rate for a new game got hammered with new customers.
No WOW is not the perfect MMO like some would say. But having played every SOE game, except EQ2, I would say so far they are doing at least as good as SOE did. If they let these problems go on for over 6 months like SOE did with SWG then I will start to believe that Blizzard = SOE.