Too much frustration to continue

adam_nox

Warfronts first:

At lower levels, my cleric held up well.  Now at 38, I die without being able to do anything at all, and in the cluster I'm in, defiant pugs lose a very strong majority of matches.  During headstart and in the 10-20 bracket, my teams almost never lost BG.  Once I got to codex and whitefall wins became few and far between.  It seems like guardians are especially rogue/warrior heavy, and it seems to be giving them a strong dps advantage.  I can't figure out what else is going on.  End result, frustration.

 

PvE:  It's so tedius, and we've done this so many times before.  While for a couple days people were spamming for Knights Breach, I was just a little too low to do it.  Now that I am high enough, no one ever asks for groups for it.  I will likely hit 40 before I get a chance to do it.  I don't know if the vast majority of 35+ have gotten tired of the game or are now in another bracket, but I seem to be mostly alone at least in pve.  In both moonshade and droughtlands I rarely see other players and this server has a queue on weekends. 

 

PvP server:  This may have been a mistake.  If I kill a rogue when I'm out questing after he's jumped me, he'll just come back and kill me eventually.  Their perma stealth gives this stupidly huge advantage on pvp servers due to how mob aggro works, how mobs stick to you like glue, and how you are debuffed from moving away from an enemy.  Rogues will get to exploit that debuff, avoid the sea of enemies on the landscape, and get you when you are weakened.  At 21 when they first can get perma stealth, it's not so bad, but when they have 40 points to spend so that they are also killing machines, things change.

 

Oh and in the two zones I'm leveling in, no one is doing rifts/invasions, and they are now soloable due to the low number of people around.  It makes no sense.  I don't know if I'm just that far ahead of the leveling curve and if I just slow down population will catch up or what.  Stonefield was actually pretty cool, were lots of people around all the time, both factions weren't shoved down each other's throats, could always run to a new rift. 

 

I have 26 active days remaining, when I saw that I couldn't believe it at first.  I guess they didn't start my 30 days at the beginning of headstart like I thought they would have.  I can't imagine not cancelling before then, though I am still hopeful that I can get to 50 before then, and maybe come back when the game and it's playerbase have matured more and I've caught up with other games.  Rift seemed to have a lot of potential, but there's too much frustration mixed in right now, and prospects for large scale world pvp seem more unlikely every day.

marz.at.play

From what I can tell, it doesn't take much to get you frustrated. Maybe this game isn't for you. I on the other hand have only been frustrated by not being able to complete one story line quest which imo doesn't make sense the way it's set up. Other then that, I'm loving being in the world of Telara. Yes I've soloed a couple of Rifts in Gloamwood already since getting there the other night, but no biggie. Most people are still in Silverwood.

Keep playing, join a large active Guild. Roll on a PvE server, you still have 20+ days left. This game may grow on you yet. 

Sovrath

hmmm, i have heard, on my server, that defiant pug's in the pvp instances were usually a failure for defiants.

I haven't noticed any slow down with the rifts.

Maybe it is because you are far ahead of the leveling curve.

I'm on a pve server so I don't have those issues with rogues.

Vaettir

Thus far I've seen no real complaints about the game's mechanics, lore, curve, or soloability. Most MMOs have community issues of some kind, and they often vary from server to server. With this in mind, combined with the fantastic few hours I spent trying it out at a friend's house, I see no reason why I would not buy Rift.

sk8chalif

You Level to fast Sir. this what happening right now, no1 is doing Rift in ur location because there actualy no1 at this lvl or theyare ahead because they are crazy nolife/nojob staying with there mom. or just taked a 1 week off work for Rift lol insane..

anyway next time play less. stay in the Level range of other.

i never saw any Rift with no1 in it since i started playing this game. Execpted late at night.

Iam LvL 22 and i got fun and since all my Guild is around my lvl its so nice and easy to make RaID/Group

Ender4

People mostly quit doing Rifts in the beta too, each wave would see the population doing them at release and then with time the do them less and less because they just aren't all that exciting. They either need to make the rewards obscenely good to force people to do them or they won't since there isn't enough variety.

Hyperwolf

Theoretically Guardians have nothing on offer that Defiant don't in terms of souls, so it would be interesting to see data on whether people who identify with the Guardian side are more likely to build themselves Warriors or Rogues. Or even whether there is a median age difference between the factions players. 

I've only done Black Garden and The Codex so far and who wins seems very much to be about whether or not there are any pre-made groups in the team and how well individuals employ team work and understand the goals of the map.

I seem to be on the winning team more often than not, to be sure. I like to think it's because I focus on keeping DPS off the mages in our group and focused on my Paladin/Warlord role. I sometimes top the number of kills in the match playing a sword-and-board meat shield.

In regards to you being ganked by Rogues, well soloing on a pvp server is always going to offer frustrations... I feel for you but you can always play another game till people catch up or re-roll on a pve server where you choose when you want to engage.

We have several 50's in my guild now, pushing us all to level but personally i've been so much more interested in thorougly exploring each zone and doing some of the achievements most people aren't bothering with. PvE being tedious is something I don't find but then I don't make a lot of Alts (any) and I'm not half-burnt out from playing WoW or EQ2 etc., for the last few years. So far the mix of zone defence from invasions, warfronts, dungeons and pve has been just right for me. I'm not at your level yet though.

Good luck, hope the game gets more enjoyable for you. If not there's always Xsyon :-)

 

dragonbrand

On my server I still see plenty of people involved with Rifts. We, as a guild, continue to do them and we get quite a bit involved when guild quests come up. I do get some level of frustration when the full Rift invasions happen as it seems if they are setup to overrun the entire region. I have accepted that that is part of the game design. It is different than other games I have played, which is a good thing. It is a matter of resetting my expectations and moving forward.

I ahve found that the Warfronts can sometimes be heavily warrior and rogue-based events. When that happens I resign myself to the loss and work on tactics and strategies to try to defeat a class in a one-vs-one battle. Those dont happen to often in Warfronts, but I am trying to use it as a learning experience as I am not a big PVP fan. I like the change of pace and the challenge and I like going as a guild group. Having most of the warfront members be from my guild and vent helps offset the "rogue" advantage.

Phynn

I find it amusing that someone who rolled on a PvP server would complain about being gangked by the opposite faction....REALLY? C'mon if you don't want the hassle of being killed while questing, rifting, PvE'ing then you shouldnt have rolled on  a PvP server. About the PvE, yes i agree, t can be rather boring at times. What I do is, once i see myself getting a bit tired of PvE i switch to warfronts, crafting, Artifact hunting, working on reputation with diff factions, doing the treasure puzzles, any number of things to break up the tedium. Also on my server, Aedraxis, I am a 32 warrior and the zones I am questing in  seem overpopulated rather than underpopulated.

gessekai332

Originally posted by adam_nox

Warfronts first:

At lower levels, my cleric held up well.  Now at 38, I die without being able to do anything at all, and in the cluster I'm in, defiant pugs lose a very strong majority of matches.  During headstart and in the 10-20 bracket, my teams almost never lost BG.  Once I got to codex and whitefall wins became few and far between.  It seems like guardians are especially rogue/warrior heavy, and it seems to be giving them a strong dps advantage.  I can't figure out what else is going on.  End result, frustration.

 solution: don't pug. when i pug i already know that ultimately, no matter how good i am or how bad i am, the outcome of the game will depend on how the team works overall- which is left to RANDOM CHANCE in a pug warfront. no matter what the other team will do, if you have a dedicated premade or even regular premade, you should have a decent chance of countering them.

PvE:  It's so tedius, and we've done this so many times before.  While for a couple days people were spamming for Knights Breach, I was just a little too low to do it.  Now that I am high enough, no one ever asks for groups for it.  I will likely hit 40 before I get a chance to do it.  I don't know if the vast majority of 35+ have gotten tired of the game or are now in another bracket, but I seem to be mostly alone at least in pve.  In both moonshade and droughtlands I rarely see other players and this server has a queue on weekends. 

solution: wait for everyone else. unlike you, people are taking the time with the game. however, i am actually lvl 42 and i dont normally have a hard time finding instance parties, but then again i only do an instance twice or three times at most and usually level off of questing or rifts. 

PvP server:  This may have been a mistake.  If I kill a rogue when I'm out questing after he's jumped me, he'll just come back and kill me eventually.  Their perma stealth gives this stupidly huge advantage on pvp servers due to how mob aggro works, how mobs stick to you like glue, and how you are debuffed from moving away from an enemy.  Rogues will get to exploit that debuff, avoid the sea of enemies on the landscape, and get you when you are weakened.  At 21 when they first can get perma stealth, it's not so bad, but when they have 40 points to spend so that they are also killing machines, things change.

 solution: dont lvl in pve with pure pve build or find someone to duo with. normally when i level on open pvp i usually have a hybrid pvp-pve build so that i can retaliate if someone tries to attack me. if that doesnt work, you either party with another person (2 players will always beat 1, unless you really suck) or you find somewhere else to quest, which isnt that hard to do in this game especially in your late 30s early 40s. 

Oh and in the two zones I'm leveling in, no one is doing rifts/invasions, and they are now soloable due to the low number of people around.  It makes no sense.  I don't know if I'm just that far ahead of the leveling curve and if I just slow down population will catch up or what.  Stonefield was actually pretty cool, were lots of people around all the time, both factions weren't shoved down each other's throats, could always run to a new rift. 

solution: since when is doing rifts in smaller groups boring? i guarantee you that you cannot beat a minor rift (and finish the bonuses) by yourself in the given time limit, so no they are not exactly easily soloable. personally i like rifting in smaller groups because its more organized and challenging as opposed to a mindless zergfest. as for invasions, just wait- most of the people in the server are still in the noob areas.

I have 26 active days remaining, when I saw that I couldn't believe it at first.  I guess they didn't start my 30 days at the beginning of headstart like I thought they would have.  I can't imagine not cancelling before then, though I am still hopeful that I can get to 50 before then, and maybe come back when the game and it's playerbase have matured more and I've caught up with other games.  Rift seemed to have a lot of potential, but there's too much frustration mixed in right now, and prospects for large scale world pvp seem more unlikely every day.

conclusion: honestly, i think you need to learn some sort of patience and try to calm down a bit. I mean, i am as cautious and skeptical towards poorly designed an overly hyped mmorpgs as the next person, but you take it to another level. its like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum because they want to have their cookies RIGHT NOW instead of after dinner.