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"fully voiced MMO in multiple languages"

nomssnomss Member UncommonPosts: 1,468

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/289180/news/ea-old-republic-taking-the-fight-to-world-of-warcraft/

"In a way, their's is a silent movie and ours is the first talkie," he said of WoW. "By and large, theirs is not a voiced MMO. Ours is a fully voiced MMO in multiple languages."

They will translate all the Voice Overs in mulitple languages!!!???

So it's going to be in English, say french? german? Won't this cost A LOT?

Don't the gamers in France and German understand English?

I was always under the impression that since English is international language, many countries try and educate their population with English. Even in a 3rd rate country such as Pakistan, there are students in high school who are able to speak English.

Why would they translate it?

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154

    To try and get as many customers as possible.  That is why they are translating it.

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  • scottnsscottns Member UncommonPosts: 231

    Originally posted by nomss

    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/289180/news/ea-old-republic-taking-the-fight-to-world-of-warcraft/

    "In a way, their's is a silent movie and ours is the first talkie," he said of WoW. "By and large, theirs is not a voiced MMO. Ours is a fully voiced MMO in multiple languages."

    They will translate all the Voice Overs in mulitple languages!!!???

    So it's going to be in English, say french? german? Won't this cost A LOT?

    Don't the gamers in France and German understand English?

    I was always under the impression that since English is international language, many countries try and educate their population with English. Even in a 3rd rate country such as Pakistan, there are students in high school who are able to speak English.

    Why would they translate it?

    Becaues the have respect for other countries native languges and don't expect the world to just speak "american".

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    What a ridicilous waste of money that could have been invested elswhere.

    LOL

    Some heads are going to roll when this thing flops



  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    What a ridicilous waste of money that could have been invested elswhere.

    LOL

    Some heads are going to roll when this thing flops

     Yeah because opening markets that may not speak the English language is a bad thing...

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  • DaitenguDaitengu Member Posts: 442

    Spanish is the primary second language in the USA, but just how many people that play games actually know it percentage wise?

     

    Same deal for other countries.

     

    Personally I don't care about voice one bit. A GOOD story can be carried on text alone, and leave the inflection up to the player to imagine. So to me, the fact that everything is voiced, actually makes me think the story wouldn't survive scrutany on text alone. Makes me not interested.  I view it this way because I have yet encounted ANY game where voice actually helps. It may be a bias of terrible localization, or crappy voice actors, but I've yet to actually be more engaged with a game with it vs text only.

  • ThorqemadaThorqemada Member UncommonPosts: 1,282
    I have to say that the best experience will be original english voices with subtitles in the different languages.
    This is bcs localized voice overs often lack very much the quality of the original and destroy the immersion more than be helpfull.


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  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    What a ridicilous waste of money that could have been invested elswhere.

    LOL

    Some heads are going to roll when this thing flops

     Yeah because opening markets that may not speak the English language is a bad thing...

    I dont think you gripe the ammount of work and investment needed for this translation.

    If anything - if EA had any brains , they would release the game with english only subs (and text translations) see how the game fares (and especially in foreign language countries) - Than release voice patch 3-4 months after for countries that showed most interest.

    This is how other smart buisnesses operate

     

     



  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566

    Not all countries are so very bilingual.

    If story is so important, you have to make sure that your customers understand it perfectly right?

    Also consider this:

    Mandarin: 845 million native speakers

    Spanish: 329 million native speakers

    English: 328 million native speakers

    Hindi-Urdu: 240 million native speakers

    Arabic: 232 million native speakers

    French (!): 220 million native speakers

    etc.

    Russians and Germans are also a big chunk of mmorpg players.

    And don't forget Pakistan and India have a long term history of speaking and educating English (colonialism and all).

    As a Dutch guy I would never want to play a mmorpg in my native language however :P

  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433

    They do this because they regard French and German speakers as an important enough market for them.

    Games are usually brought out dubbed in those countries (as much as I personally detest it), therefore they did that. It's a decision based on market research.

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  • NuzzgrumbleNuzzgrumble Member Posts: 1

    Originally posted by scottns

    Originally posted by nomss

    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/289180/news/ea-old-republic-taking-the-fight-to-world-of-warcraft/

    "In a way, their's is a silent movie and ours is the first talkie," he said of WoW. "By and large, theirs is not a voiced MMO. Ours is a fully voiced MMO in multiple languages."

    They will translate all the Voice Overs in mulitple languages!!!???

    So it's going to be in English, say french? german? Won't this cost A LOT?

    Don't the gamers in France and German understand English?

    I was always under the impression that since English is international language, many countries try and educate their population with English. Even in a 3rd rate country such as Pakistan, there are students in high school who are able to speak English.

    Why would they translate it?

    Becaues the have respect for other countries native languges and don't expect the world to just speak "american".

    What a nonsense. Everything is done for profit. Why don't they translate it to every language that is spoken in Europe then?

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566

    p.s. It might be a time investment but they don't need the coders and game designers to do the recording right? This could all go parallel with the game development.

  • Bedlem3342Bedlem3342 Member UncommonPosts: 252

    My guess is they just want to be able to say:

    "Yeah, we were the first to ever do this, and you have to admit - it is pretty damn cool"

    Who knows...

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by nomss

    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/289180/news/ea-old-republic-taking-the-fight-to-world-of-warcraft/

    "In a way, their's is a silent movie and ours is the first talkie," he said of WoW. "By and large, theirs is not a voiced MMO. Ours is a fully voiced MMO in multiple languages."

    They will translate all the Voice Overs in mulitple languages!!!???

    So it's going to be in English, say french? german? Won't this cost A LOT?

    Don't the gamers in France and German understand English?

    I was always under the impression that since English is international language, many countries try and educate their population with English. Even in a 3rd rate country such as Pakistan, there are students in high school who are able to speak English.

    Why would they translate it?

    Personally, I'd take SysTran (and, of course, no region-based servers) over NPC VO anyday. More ways for players to communicate effectively seems more valuable than having the epic tale of why the bank guard needs eight spider lips told in six different languages.

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  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by DarkPony

    p.s. It might be a time investment but they don't need the coders and game designers to do the recording right? This could all go parallel with the game development.

     They kinda do, unless they want it to seem like a badly dubbed martial arts movie.

  • ariestearieste Member UncommonPosts: 3,309

    As part of this amazing and groundbreaking "voiceover" feature, I hope SWTOR is the first game ever to include the authentic and amazingly immersive "beep-wheep" sound that R2-D2 makes.  This feature will cleary separate this game from other "pretenders" in the genre and make it into a Premier MMORPG Experience.

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  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607

    Too bad Wookiee won't be one of them.

  • nomssnomss Member UncommonPosts: 1,468

    Originally posted by arieste

    As part of this amazing and groundbreaking "voiceover" feature, I hope SWTOR is the first game ever to include the authentic and amazingly immersive "beep-wheep" sound that R2-D2 makes.  This feature will cleary separate this game from other "pretenders" in the genre and make it into a Premier MMORPG Experience.

    lol

    My point was, I think given any gamer, the person will most likely be OKAY with playing a game that is Story driven and it's only English.

    I don't think there are many gamers who go: "Not buying because I won't be able to understand."

  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    Originally posted by nomss

    Originally posted by arieste

    As part of this amazing and groundbreaking "voiceover" feature, I hope SWTOR is the first game ever to include the authentic and amazingly immersive "beep-wheep" sound that R2-D2 makes.  This feature will cleary separate this game from other "pretenders" in the genre and make it into a Premier MMORPG Experience.

    lol

    My point was, I think given any gamer, the person will most likely be OKAY with playing a game that is Story driven and it's only English.

    I don't think there are many gamers who go: "Not buying because I won't be able to understand."

    Well, I think that the game should be translated into as many languages as possible. I don't know if it is worth spending so much money on a new recording in every language but they should at least include subtitles so that people have no problems understanding the story.

    There are a lot of MMO players which have a very basic level of understanding of the English language. So they need this :)

    I would like to have the game in Spanish or German so I can practice them :) 

    + there is no such thing as American. It was our glorious country that gave you all the gift of the English language :) 

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,955

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    What a ridicilous waste of money that could have been invested elswhere.

    LOL

    Some heads are going to roll when this thing flops

     Yeah because opening markets that may not speak the English language is a bad thing...

    I dont think you gripe the ammount of work and investment needed for this translation.

    If anything - if EA had any brains , they would release the game with english only subs (and text translations) see how the game fares (and especially in foreign language countries) - Than release voice patch 3-4 months after for countries that showed most interest.

    This is how other smart buisnesses operate

     

     

    What you say certainly makes sense.

    My only thought is that the cost to translate it into other languages is already figured into the cost of the game and any other subscription plan or online store addons.

    Otherwise it surely is a large risk.

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  • BlahTeebBlahTeeb Member UncommonPosts: 624

    Originally posted by Bedlem3342

    My guess is they just want to be able to say:

    "Yeah, we were the first to ever do this, and you have to admit - it is pretty damn cool"

    Who knows...

    GW1 had the main story voiced over. No where near as much as SWTOR... but about as much as a small single-player game. But they had the story voiced in 10 or so languages.

  • SfaliaraSfaliara Member Posts: 438

    Originally posted by scottns

    Originally posted by nomss

    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/289180/news/ea-old-republic-taking-the-fight-to-world-of-warcraft/

    "In a way, their's is a silent movie and ours is the first talkie," he said of WoW. "By and large, theirs is not a voiced MMO. Ours is a fully voiced MMO in multiple languages."

    They will translate all the Voice Overs in mulitple languages!!!???

    So it's going to be in English, say french? german? Won't this cost A LOT?

    Don't the gamers in France and German understand English?

    I was always under the impression that since English is international language, many countries try and educate their population with English. Even in a 3rd rate country such as Pakistan, there are students in high school who are able to speak English.

    Why would they translate it?

    Becaues the have respect for other countries native languges and don't expect the world to just speak "american".

    I don't think that was the point of the OP. As I understood it, he simply implied that the voice over in say 2 more languages will not pay off for the VERY hard work it requires to be done, in which I'd agree with him.

  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    Btw, if Germany and France are getting their own translations, can we get a translation for the UK as well?

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  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by fivoroth

    Btw, if Germany and France are getting their own translations, can we get a translation for the UK as well?

     Not sure if serious?

    Lol if you were.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,955

    Originally posted by BlahTeeb

    Originally posted by Bedlem3342

    My guess is they just want to be able to say:

    "Yeah, we were the first to ever do this, and you have to admit - it is pretty damn cool"

    Who knows...

    GW1 had the main story voiced over. No where near as much as SWTOR... but about as much as a small single-player game. But they had the story voiced in 10 or so languages.

    My only thought is that EA is a large company and they might already have the resources to do this without incurring huge costs.

    They might have some sort of deal with a company that does it, it might be in-house (I doubt it but you never know), As I mentioned it might already be figured into the cost of the game and what they expect they will make on box sales.

    I find it a bit hard to believe that they would just be sititng around a table eating donuts and someone just piping up saying "hey, let's make it for as many languages as we can!"

    "ok, make it so, just hire a few peole, it's all good"

     

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  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by BlahTeeb

    Originally posted by Bedlem3342

    My guess is they just want to be able to say:

    "Yeah, we were the first to ever do this, and you have to admit - it is pretty damn cool"

    Who knows...

    GW1 had the main story voiced over. No where near as much as SWTOR... but about as much as a small single-player game. But they had the story voiced in 10 or so languages.

    My only thought is that EA is a large company and they might already have the resources to do this without incurring huge costs.

    They might have some sort of deal with a company that does it, it might be in-house (I doubt it but you never know), As I mentioned it might already be figured into the cost of the game and what they expect they will make on box sales.

    I find it a bit hard to believe that they would just be sititng around a table eating donuts and someone just piping up saying "hey, let's make it for as many languages as we can!"

    "ok, make it so, just hire a few peole, it's all good"

     

    Someone must be figuring in that extra cost.

    The problem I see with it is will their even be a substianial increase of sales from doing voice overs in different languages in comparsion to not. Ea can't be certain the swtor will be popular in all the countries in translates for, and tweaking animations and cost of all that voice acting will likely be very expensive. Imagine having to delay expansions due to voice overs for other countries not being ready if they plan to release are versions simulataneously.

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